Keeping Our Talent
People have been floating a lot of names around for who the Warriors should be picking up this summer via free agency or trades. We have all carefully weighed-out in our minds the Amare trade that will never happen. Recently, names such as Rasheed, Boozer, Bass have been floated around among others. Marion anyone?
The Suns want too much for Amare (Biedrins is the best contract/ position player on our team/ Curry is the straw that breaks the Thunder's back). Rasheed would be fun if we were trying to win it all now, but that is not the case. Instead, I would prefer to let Randolph start taking some threes. I would also prefer to not lead the league in techs. A one year rent-a-Boozer would be fine for a Maggette/ Wright swap, but Utah would never go for it. Bass is nice, but we would have to offer him up to the full midlevel for Dallas not to match.
I agree with the sentiments of a w00143881; our next move should be nothing, beyond cheap pickups. Resign CJ, maybe find another undrafted free agent diamond in the ruff, like we seem to be so good at, and run with our team healthy for once. The worst thing we have done over the last few years was sign or extend players to contracts that are too big/ too long (Stephen/ Corey) and losing future flexibility should We Believe 2.0 not materialize.
Keep in mind that we have some players with pretty hefty contracts signed for periods extending over the time in which most of these players will need to be resigned. Monta ($11M -> 2015), Biedrins ($10M-> 2015), S-Jaxx ($7M-> 2014), Corey (9M-> 2014), Ronny (4.5M-> 2012), & Buike (3M-> 2011).
It would also be nice to restrain from blowing our load this summer, as teams will need cap space to get players in the 2010 FA market. And lets face it, for one of the big names to come to the Warriors, we will need more cap space than others. Unless we can move some of these *cough Maggette* it might become difficult to land major talent and resign our emerging stars.
I am all for maintaining a squad that has good players with stable and reasonable contracts (Monta, Biedrins, Turiaf, Buike). Plus, we need to leave some room to resign some of our diaper dandies this summer if they continue to improve (Wright, Belli, Morrow) in two years (RANDOLPH) in three (Curry). People haven't considered that if Randolph/ Curry become as good as we all think they can be, they may do like every other budding GSW star has done when it comes time for an extension and the Warriors can't/ will not afford it: bounce (Jamison, Gilbert, Baron, Dampier j/k).
This time, lets make All-Stars out of the talent we have and pay them accordingly.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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so the gist of this post is exactly the same as the w00143881’s?
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by sam23 on Jul 5, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It would also be nice to restrain from blowing our load this summer, as teams will need cap space to become players in the 2010 FA market.
We will not be players in the 201 FA market. Any space we have will be minimal; it will not be enough to go after a big name. Standing pat, exercising the options on Wright, Randolph and Belinelli (but letting Law walk [we’ll know about this before the season starts]) puts the Warriors in the mid 50s for next year’s salary structure independent of any draft choice we have. It will be difficult to decrease this enough to go after anything other than an MLE free agent.
they may do like every other budding GSW star has done when it comes time for an extension and the Warriors can’t/ will not afford it: bounce (Jamison, Gilbert, Baron, Dampier j/k).
The Warriors extended Jamison with a max contract. He doesn’t fit in the “can’t/will not afford it” Dampier similarly had a big contract because we gave him one. Arenas took a better offer than league rules allowed us to make. The only reasonable case for the “can’t/will not” you have is Baron, and it appears from his play in LAC that being willing to pay him that much would have been foolish. He’s not playing like a guy worth a big long term deal.
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by jae on Jul 5, 2009 10:21 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Technically, the Warriors were able to make such an offer to Arenas, it’s that they weren’t able to MATCH the deal that was extended because they didn’t have the cap room. Had the Warriors been able to off-load salary after Arenas signed the offer sheet, they could have theoretically matched the Wizards’ offer.
I’m sure this is exactly what you meant but I thought I would clear it up for everyone.
Thing C
by markdash on Jul 5, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had the Warriors been able to off-load salary after Arenas signed the offer sheet, they could have theoretically matched the Wizards’ offer.
To further clarify this, before everyone jumps in and says that this means that the Warriors didn’t keep Arenas when all they had to do was open up cap room: It was the off season. In the off season, you cannot trade for expiring contracts. The contracts you acquire that are “expiring” at that point don’t expire for another year, so that avenue just doesn’t exist. The only avenue would be to find a team under the cap willing to take many our contracts [it wasn’t like we were close to the cap and just needed to nudge a tiny bit under] for absolutely nothing at all coming back in terms of salary. That’s pretty close to saying “it’s impossible.”
by jae on Jul 6, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, it’s extremely difficult. Which is why, when faced with losing a potentially franchise player, the Warriors were unable to do so.
Thing C
by markdash on Jul 6, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sincerely hope the Warriors won’t be players in the 201 FA market…
by Missing Barry on Jul 6, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you guys imagine if we pulled off that Amare trade?
I mean we’ll still get Amare but we’ll lose all of our talent plus we’ll only get him for one year,this post really opened my eyes.Nice one.
Its time for a change...
by RunNdGun on Jul 5, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we please stop posting the same exact thing.
Let me paraphrase the last four hundred fanposts since the draft:
We’re good as we are. Don’t trade anyone for anyone. Keep the core together. Those big trades are not worth it.
by ZaMzAm FiRe on Jul 5, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its a bit funny tho...
NaturalBornBaller, thank you for backing my thoughts. I didn’t even consider that financial aspect of signing a big contract now forcing us to give up Randolph or Curry if they were to become big time players 2-3 years from now.
Even from the Poll on my post, the majority of fans (2:1) agree that we should keep our core and not trade them away. Its a bit funny tho…3 weeks ago when we were giddy about acquiring Amare, Warrior management wouldn’t pull the trigger. Now that we have agreed upon keeping our talent, knowing the management in Oakland, we’ll probably sign Bosh for Beans, Wright, and Marco next week.
Warrior Fans and Warrior Management haven’t been on the same page for years.
by w00143881 on Jul 5, 2009 2:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
exactly, that's why I liked this post
yes, it build off the framework of other posts, but it put another point into the discussion, the point that we need to take account hopefully big and deserved contracts for Randolph and Curry in 2-3 years.
by eastbayglory on Jul 5, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t even consider that financial aspect of signing a big contract now forcing us to give up Randolph or Curry if they were to become big time players 2-3 years from now.
nah NBB doesn’t know what he’s talking about, Randolph won’t become an rFA until the ‘12 offseason. that’s 3 NBA seasons from now. Curry will become a rFA after Maggette & Jackson have already expired.
by homer simpson on Jul 5, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's tank next season
And get John Wall =P
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by ejdacanay on Jul 5, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
because it
worked well for the kings and wizards?
by saintdee on Jul 5, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
???
no love for morrow. I say we run Morrow of tripple screens all day and let him shoot 80 3’s a game, on a bad night he will make 35 and that’d still be 105 points, and then cuz we dont need anything on offense except him we could load the floor with our best defensive players.
just an idea. . .
by bizz 192 on Jul 5, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
obviously, not feasible, but some other wholes in the idea…
35/80 is 43.75%. that is not a bad night – even for Morrow.
sadly, our best defensive players still give up around 110 points.
by homer simpson on Jul 6, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
eyes watering laughing from bizz 192
I personally don’t think it’s very easy to restrain from blowing one’s load ALL SUMMER!!!! No I’m not high I just had to say it…
by polar on Jul 5, 2009 7:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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