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Does Amar'e think we're mediocre?


So ESPN recently asked Amare some questions regarding his future w/ the Suns.  I'm not sure how to read the comments, as he spoke about a "mediocre team", and I hope he's not talking about the Dubs. 

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"Right now, it all depends on what team I decide I want to go to," Stoudemire said. "If I want to sign an extension with a mediocre team -- probably not. I'll sign an extension with a team that has a future. You follow what I'm saying? The ball is in their court now."

Is it me or is this contradictory to itself? 

At least he's still in the dark as much as we all are. But I'd sure hate to get a guy that doesn't want to play for us.  But with the Suns in rebuild mode, I'm not sure how much better he thinks they'll be than other teams in the West this year.

They're going to be losing Barnes, probably Hill.  What do you think? Sans Amar'e, are we better than the Suns this coming year or not?

Here's the link...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=431479

 


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SF = Warriors
PF= Suns
C= Warriors

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Coaching = Suns

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by i love sports101 on Jul 8, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well..Very Simple...

But I like it. Good way to go about that.

by esco41510 on Jul 8, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

too bad the NBA is more about who your top 2 or 3 players are.

by homer simpson on Jul 8, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

breaking down which positions are better doesn’t really tell you much at all.

Thing A

by sam23 on Jul 8, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imo it’s slightly different.

If amare joins the warriors:

PG: suns
SG: warriors
SF: warriors
PF: warriors
C: warriors
Bench: warriors
Coach: warriors

He also says that he wants a team that has a future, which our teams seems to have a solid foundation around Randolph and Ellis with some excellent role players/bench players (and if Amare joins we would have him in the core as well).

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by LostHawkGSW on Jul 8, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not really

Warriors have better coaching than Suns…don’t forget their PG is rotting while our is blooming.
come on Alvin Gentry is better than Don Nelson?

Its time for a change...

by RunNdGun on Jul 8, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

I forgot, that Mike D’antoni was no longer their coach. Sorry

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by i love sports101 on Jul 8, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nelson

out-coaches D’Antoni anyhow.

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by bonbrillio on Jul 8, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

coaching suns???? no no Nellie is a much better coach than alvin gentry

by FeartheBeard4 on Jul 8, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes Amare would hate being a warrior.

Don't trade Stephen Curry Movement

by Sinigang on Jul 8, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude...the Warriors are mediocre

in fact they are below mediocre

by CSalMJS on Jul 8, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

See, I'm not convinced of that...

Consider the injuries we got hit w/ last year, I think the squad is a lot better than what our record and performance reflected last year. And looking forward, I think we’ve got the talent to surprise quite a few teams if we stay healthy.

by esco41510 on Jul 8, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the NBA is about the best players, not about how good your 6th through 15th men are. having 1 great player is better than having 12 or 13 average to above average players.

by homer simpson on Jul 8, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ok...

But the Warriors TOP SIX players were only healthy and playing together for like, 9 games last year.

by the guy on Jul 8, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What are you trying to say? We’re not talking about the 6-12th men here. We’re talking about the best players on the team never being on the floor together.

by the guy on Jul 8, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if your best 5 aren’t all that much better than your 6-12, it doesn’t mean much.

dominant player + bench guys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7-8 average to above average offensive players.

2 top ten NBA players + journeymen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 solid NBA starters

3 star players + d-leaguers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9 solid NBA players

4 all stars + benchwarmers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 fringe all stars + 7-8 solid players.

i would have added more greater than signs, but i didn’t want the post to get too long.

by homer simpson on Jul 8, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dave Berri has written about exactly this, trying to quantify it. He claims that the Pareto Principle appears to hold in basketball. Roughly 80% of your team’s wins are a result of the quality the top 20% of your team’s players.

Roughly speaking, it means that the best three players on your team are 4 times more important than the rest of the team combined.

by jae on Jul 9, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

if we make the playoffs as an 8 seed, we’d be right around mediocre. we might even do that. i’d see mediocre is spot on.

by rjnarayen on Jul 8, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

crap, *might not

by rjnarayen on Jul 8, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah just because they went through one season with a ton of injuries?

don’t give up on them just yet.

Its time for a change...

by RunNdGun on Jul 8, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I no way am I saying we're head and shoulder above the other teams...

but the Suns? I mean, they pretty much fell off? Losing Shaq, adding Pavlovic and Wallace. Not un upgrade by any means…then with losing Hill and Barnes, who at time where initiating the offense from the point forward role? Who’s gonna do that now?

I think they’ve declined dramatically for this upcoming season? I know Clark has potential, but we’ll see how he develops. Nash and Wallace aren’t getting any younger,

I’m just figuring, that AS IS, he’d be in better position w/ the Warriors than w/ the Suns to see some chance @ the playoffs, if not next season, then definitely down the road.

by esco41510 on Jul 8, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

wait so let me get this straight

a mediocre team? are you sure he’s not talking about his own team?They just lost shaq and they were a 9th seed above .500. Suns have a future? i think not, all of their guys are around 30 years old.

by seven72deuce on Jul 8, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that very well could be...

I was assuming he was referring to teams he may land with.

by esco41510 on Jul 8, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh no offense to you

i’m just offended by amare. and if only steve kurr would stop trippin over stephen curry, i’d be a happy camping warrior fan right now

by seven72deuce on Jul 8, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with esco41510

And I think that the Warriors are probably the team he referred to as haveing a future. But who knows what Amare is thinking. He definatly should realize that he could be the missing link for this team that could push them to regular playoff appearances. I especially liked how he helped the W’s by saying he doesn’t want to come to the bay if the W’s have to give up too much to get him.

I also read on another blog that he was seen recently in San Francisco walking with a couple hotties. but I don’t know the truth to it.

Go W’s!!! I feel the turn around (long term) coming.

by adamm on Jul 8, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Amare has the wrong attitude

Most all-stars would think a mediocre team will be a good team with them on it.

shouldn’t Amare look at himself as a difference maker?!?!

by joegiant on Jul 8, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah i can't believe that

i hope he isn’t calling us mediocre? i am about to send that guy an email…

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by AR4 on Jul 8, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, we’d have to improve to be mediocre.

by jae on Jul 8, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

gang, I really hate to break it to you all, but uh ...

… when over half the league makes the playoffs every year and we are always hoping to but rarely do actually make it into the playoffs, we are at best mediocre until we prove differently … I wonder how many of you, if in Amare’s situation, would think any differently?

by hardcore on Jul 8, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well,

Half those playoff teams come from the Eastern Conf. Not saying they’re as weak as they used to be from top to bottom, but the scheduling is unequal, hence the majority of the eastern teams simply don’t play the same strength of schedule.

Judging a team by the playoff teams as a whole is not an accurate way of evaluating the other non-playoff teams. At least not until teams are scheduled equally and the league gets rid of divisions and conferences and breaks down to one (cohesive league), similar to a European soccer league.

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by bonbrillio on Jul 8, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I'm Amar'e

And the team I’m currently on couldn’t make the playoffs with myself, Nash, and the Big Aristotle, I’m not talking down about ANYONE else’s team. Especially one as decimated by injuries and suspensions as the Dubs. Yes, no playoffs in the last two years, but they are just one year removed from a 48-win season. And I’m sorry, this is blatant homerism, but I think Anthony Randolph is going to be the next big thing. That guy has SUPERSTAR written all over him.

by the guy on Jul 8, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just step back and re-read that fellas.....

I think he may infact have been paying us a compliment (well I can hope).

I believe the team he was referring to as Mediocre…..may in fact be the Suns…whereas the team with a future could well be the Warriors….

It’s not definite he was calling us Mediocre!

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by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 8, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm reading it as

They’re both mediocre and he may as well stay where he is, rather than try something else.

Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!

by bonbrillio on Jul 8, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amare

So why not make a contract for the 95 Mill with Amare, give him the right to demand a trade after year 2? That way we can get something back for him? and we get him for two years to prove we can make it to the big dance? This year and next year to make sure we have all the pieces:

Then if he don’t like it here, we trade him to a list of teams he approves for an equal value?
Will that work?

by ForestGrump on Jul 8, 2009 6:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's official!! AMARE REJECTS GOLDEN STATE!

SCREW YOU AMARE!!

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/141465


If he wants, Stoudemire can make it nearly impossible for the Suns to trade him. He confirmed a San Jose Mercury News story that he didn’t want to play for the Warriors and said he would be unlikely to sign a contract extension with a “mediocre team.”

Given that most contending teams already have a max contract player and bottom-tier clubs won’t trade for Stoudemire unless they’re sure they can re-sign him, odds are increasing that Stoudemire will be a Sun this season.

“It’s all about winning,” Stoudemire said. “Why go to Golden State and try to rebuild there when I can stay here and rebuild here? The situation didn’t make total sense to me.”

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by AR4 on Jul 8, 2009 6:45 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

So he would rather rebuild and start from square one with the Suns and not come to a team wanting to win now?

Last time I checked we now have better players then they do and they have lost there main core while ours is still on the rise with potential all stars like Randolph, Ellis, and Curry.

by dubzfan on Jul 8, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last time I checked we now have better players then they do

that’s the thing, Amare does not think the dubs have better players.

potential all stars like Randolph, Ellis, and Curry.
he’d probably counter that it’s more likely that the dubs have zero future all stars.

you really can’t fault him for thinking that. fans love their young players b/c they believe in their potential based on a select few plays. that’s why Blazer fans were so vehement about Bayless & Frye’s future a few weeks ago.

by homer simpson on Jul 8, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, or how adamant Kings fans were that Hawes doesn’t suck.

by jae on Jul 8, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny

Find one positive comment about Frye’s game from any Blazer fan.

by Sabonis4Ever on Jul 9, 2009 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just use the search engine on this site for the fanpost using bayless frye trade. there was a group of GSOM posters saying he sucked and a group from BE saying he didn’t and how he just needed more minutes. now i don’t know how many of these guys are 12 years old, but it was there.

by homer simpson on Jul 9, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amare would rather lose in Phx

than risk losing here. If he’s looking at the Warrior’s record last year, then he’s right in saying that it would not be a contending team. But talent-wise in terms of the youth, it’s no comparison. Amare just wants to be paid and have all star guys next to him to carry him to a championship. Go figure why he hasn’t brought them anywhere. To win a championship, you need stars that take it upon themselves to carry their inferior teammates. He obviously doesn’t have that mentality and if he ever does win one, it will be as a supporting player rather than as THE MAN.

No thanks. Now that he’s shown his true colors, I’d much prefer the focus move towards a Boozer or AK deal involving Mags. That way we don’t have to give up our “solid defending, outstanding rebounding, efficient center.”

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by misterjennings on Jul 8, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Although AK and Boozer would be good for the warriors, it sounds like both are in trade talks now (Boozer to Pistons http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1703 and AK47 to the Rockets http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=0434)

Amare may not be “The Man” but he would be a step in the right direction. No one is saying that Amare will come here and completely change the franchise into a championship contending team, but in order to get to that level many changes need to be made and a move like this will help.

Amare deal going through, plus our guys growing, plus one more move can potentially make us a championship contending team.

This is not the last move.

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by LostHawkGSW on Jul 8, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Honestly, do you really think everyone views the Warriors with the same optimism our fan base does? Everyone else sees a franchise that has been relevant one time in 15 years. Sure we have some young players, but what have we proved other than the fact that our ownership and management sucks and can’t put good teams out on the floor. Also keep in mind to get Amare we’d be giving up some of that talent. Can you really blame him if he doesn’t think the Warriors have much of a future?

I hate to tell y’all this, but not everyone has Randolph penciled in as a future All-star. All most people know about Ellis is he can’t drive a moped. They remember Stephen Jackson for prior incidents, not what he does on the Warriors. They don’t care about Maggette, considering how long he’s been stuck on irrelevant, losing teams (Clippers + Warriors). What can we REALLY say that will convince someone not in Warriors fan’s optimistic (and possibly, but hopefully not delusional) world to believe in our future? Not a whole lot…

by Missing Barry on Jul 8, 2009 7:34 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Honestly, do you really think everyone views the Warriors with the same optimism our fan base does?

Of course they don’t think that! They do read/ skim my articles from time to time you know.

by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 8, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed. pretty much ever fan base has their young players pegged as future all-stars when the reality is most will not be. not including rookies,

you should here Kings fan spew on about the future potential of Kevin Martin at 2, Francisco Garcia at 3, Jason Thompson at 4 and Spencer Hawes at 5. they were rejecting some pretty high profile guys like Rondo if they had to give up Hawes or Thompson. or Grizzlies fans who are high on Conley, Mayo, Rudy Gay, M. Gasol & even Darrell Arthur’s potential. or OKC fans with Westbrook, Durant, Green, Livingston, Weaver & Thabo. or Clips with Deandre Jordan, Al Thornton, Eric Gordon.

Monta, Biedrins, Randolph, Morrow, Wright, Belinelli. there’s a very real chance that there are only 3 solid starters in that group and no all-stars.

by homer simpson on Jul 8, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mediocre?

If he really meant the Warriors as that, then it will be a MESS if he a trade happens for him.

I was hyped for Amare playing for the W’s before, but after he said this, makes me think about how trading for him should never happen.

I would be sort of surprised if they still trade for Amar’e, let him stay in PHX and let’s see who “REBUILDS” better in the future Amar’e…

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by AlbinoWhale on Jul 8, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

we are mediocre, at best

We have made the playoffs once in the passed decade.

We are HOPING to make the playoffs again.

IF we make the playoffs, we are likely to get no further than the second round.

HOW is this not mediocre, AT BEST?

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by LostHawkGSW on Jul 8, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if amare wants a team with a future

then we should be in hi favor. warriors are a potential playoff team

by thekiddisfresh on Jul 8, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Amar'e

So he said he doesn’t want to be traded to the Warriors(a rebuilding team) in an interview and if he wanted to do that he would just stay in pheonix? GOOD. I never really wanted him to come to the Warriors anyways. All he’s good at is scoring down low. 20ppg. Lets be real for a second. How many 20 ppg people we got on our team. Ellis, Jackson, Maggette, Randolph(no doubt), and Morrow(in the near future). We definatley got the scoring part down, that isn’t the problem. We need a pf who can defend, and some one who can rebound the ball like a beast. Milsap is perfect. I’m tired of watching our team get massacred by either a C or a PF from EVERY TEAM. Almost all of are games are close. But, if we could put pressure on that one C or PF that seems to always rape us, then that might just be all the edge we need. Amar’e can’t be the one doing the dirty work. So yeah, screw Amar’e. He’s never going to win a championship.
p.s. Randolph got some good D just need to work on foul trouble

by GSWeri on Jul 8, 2009 9:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

“We need a pf who can defend, and some one who can rebound the ball like a beast.”

True.

“How many 20 ppg people we got on our team.”

Well, we should only have 1 (maybe 2 if we want to suffer Maggette getting enough minutes). Ellis is the only player on our team that’s shown the ability to score at a high rate while doing it efficiently. When Jackson is scoring 20 ppg it’s actually hurting us because he needs to shoot so much to do it. Randolph hasn’t proved anything. Maggette is capable, but I don’t know if he’ll be getting enough minutes to score 20 ppg. Morrow…has a LONG way to go to be that kind of scorer. And Amare isn’t just a 20 ppg scorer. He’s more like a 25 ppg scorer (while doing it very efficiently). You may have an argument that the offensive upgrade he provides isn’t worth it, but you have to recognize he DOES provide a big offensive upgrade over our current players.

by Missing Barry on Jul 9, 2009 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“When Jackson is scoring 20 ppg it’s actually hurting us because he needs to shoot so much to do it.”

Well i could argue with you on Jackson’s efficiency if you are basing your opinion on how he played last year, because Nelson was basically telling him to be the point gaurd. We was dealing with a whole bunch of injuries when he was the only one playing with a bunch of young guys. He sacrificed his stats and pretty much did what he was told with the best of his abilities. So I wouldn’t want to be tough on him because of his ugly shooting percentage or worst turnover per game in the leauge. In fact i got more respect for him, hopefully he’ll be alot more efficient this season.

“but you have to recognize he(Amar’e) DOES provide a big offensive upgrade over our current players.”

No doubt. We would definately have the best offense in the leauge with him on the squad off top. But while we already do have one of the best offenses in the leauge, we also allow the most points per game in the leauge. Bittersweet if you ask me. Even though its obvious we got horrible defense and a great offense, we should be looking for defense before we look for offense. Adding somebody who gives us a push on offense and doesn’t do anything to our defense will leave us back in square one(with probably another big contract and/or a loss of young potential players)

“Well, we should only have 1 (maybe 2 if we want to suffer Maggette getting enough minutes). Ellis is the only player on our team that’s shown the ability to score at a high rate while doing it efficiently. When Jackson is scoring 20 ppg it’s actually hurting us because he needs to shoot so much to do it. Randolph hasn’t proved anything. Maggette is capable, but I don’t know if he’ll be getting enough minutes to score 20 ppg. Morrow…has a LONG way to go to be that kind of scorer.”

Now im not saying ellis, jackson, maggette, randolph, and morrow are going to average 20 points next year. No way in hell that will happen. You are right though, its probably only going to be Ellis(I predict 23). Jackson and maggette probably around 18 to 19ppg. All I am saying is that these guys CAN score 20 points or more IF given the chance too. Not everybody can score 20ppg on the same team, just look at the celtics. Only thing we got to do if we are trying to improve our offense is the coaching staff just got to be more aware who needs to handle the rock, who should be on the court, and who should score in different situations. I think Ellis should be taking most of the shots and then probably ask maggette to take less shots and just drive since he seems to get fouled all the time and shoots a pretty good Ft%(straying from the point but just wanted to say).

by GSWeri on Jul 9, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is just my overly emotional W's loving heart speaking,

but after all this, I hope we mop the floor with the Suns this season. The whole thing just adds juice to the matchup. Should be fun to watch.

Of course, if a deal for Amare goes through, I’ll forget everything I ever said about the guy not rebounding, playing defense, or giving a crap about being a team player. For a game or two, anyway.

by JRDub on Jul 8, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Absolutley....

I’m calling for an Crawford/LBJ like dunk from AR on AMAR’E! Except this time we KEEP the video tape!!!

by esco41510 on Jul 9, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amare....another punk NBA player with no class...

He couldnt have been professional and said “I was approached by the Warriors, but there just wasn’t a fit”… That says the same thing without seeming like an arrogant, self opinionated ass who see fits to insult the franchise…

Well….. I look forward to the Warriors absolutely kicking the crap out of the Suns this coming year! Then we will see how “Mediocre” our team is versus his….

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 9, 2009 12:31 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

in this day & age with rehearsed answers, i find his honesty refreshing. i also would add that we shouldn’t presume to know the man or incorporate him into some stereotype of NBA players. especially when everything you know is via the media. based on the football blogs, most thought Steve McNair was not a punk and considered him a man of class before the circumstances involving his passing came to light.

by homer simpson on Jul 9, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agreed

That we shouldn’t presume to know or judge or stereotype people we don’t know. At the same time, when you hear or watch an interview with someone, it’s hard not to have a subjective take on whether they seem like a charismatic, likeable, smart, interesting person. My subjective take on, for example, Dwight Howard or Iverson or Nash or Ray Allen or Baron or Cap’n Jack is that they’re all of the above. My subjective take on Amar’e is that he isn’t, particularly.

Not that that’s huge factor in whether I’d want a player on my team, but it is a small one.

Thing 1

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 9, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly how I looked at it....

Anyone can make their point without needing to be hostile of offensive to another peson/group. It’s about “perceived” class and yes whilst there may be some skeletons in the closet for some, it’s how they handle themselves in public.

Jamal Crawford was the perfect example of that, he may have had views about Nellie or the team but he kept them to himself and played the professional in front of the media and that gains my enormous respect as a result.

I have been fortunate enough to spend a little time in the past on the World Rally Championship interviewing drivers for the Championship radio station, mainly at finish lines, service parks, etc. There were many drivers who were professional, polite and a good role model to youngsters and there were some who interviewed like spoiled children!

My point was that I personally have listened to a number of interviews in recent years and there are some who are extremely professional and some that come across as pure punk!

It's about heart, It's about fight, It's about being a Warrior!

by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 9, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

After his second on-court workout since his February eye surgery, Stoudemire talked publicly for the first time since the Suns nearly traded him to Golden State.

Stoudemire clarified or reasserted points that he is healthy, wants to stay in Phoenix, does not want to play for Golden State and wants a maximum-level contract extension. Stoudemire is eligible for an extension before the season starts and can opt out of his current contract’s final season (2010-11) next summer if his deal is not extended.

“I’ll sign an extension with a team that has a future. The ball is in midcourt right now. It’s on both sides. We have to come to an (agreement) here and figure out what’s best for both of us. If I had to re-sign with a mediocre team, it would be here. Because I’m here. I’ve been here my whole career. And I would love to bring the Suns back to where we once were. That’s my ultimate goal, a la Paul Pierce. He did it with Boston. He stuck around. Boston took care of him. They made the right decision to bring in Garnett and a few other players and they won a championship. Hopefully, we can do the same here.”

“It’s all about winning,” Stoudemire said. “Why go to Golden State and try to rebuild there when I can stay here and rebuild here? The situation didn’t make total sense to me. I think the Suns are trying to make the best decision for them so I’ve got to deal with it.”
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Who’s going to argue with him? Even when healthy, this team probably doesn’t win any more than 38 games. 1 playoff team in 15 or so odd seasons is example enough of the lack of competence this front office has. It’s had a proven track record of blunders left and right in FA, the draft, and letting their very best players walk. Why would a perennial all-star uproot his comfortable surroundings, pack up his bags, leave home and be a part of what really is mediocre?

With the cap set to drop to $53 and eventually $50 million in 2 years, how much more likely is Cohan, Rowell, and this brilliant front office willing to dish out a max extension starting at $20+M or so to a player that’s repeatedly stated he doesn’t want to come here?

Just as Barry said, most W’s fans overvalue what we have here in GSW, which is why I could not believe the ridiculously high number of people opposed to even the Beans, Belly, and Wright for Amar’e trade. When something seems to good to be true, it usually is. Although Phoenix was interested in trading Amar’e here and the feeling was mutual, there was no real indication we were an organization STAT wanted to play for. Just as we’ve all thought before…even with capspace in the summer of 2010, why would a superstar want to come to Oakland?

With the signings/extensions we’ve made in the past few years coupled with the financial instability, it certainly looks like we’re going to be stuck with the Monta / Maggs /Jackson/ Biedrins quartet possibly well until 2013. Congratulations to all those who wanted to watch Belinelli and Brandan Wright grow.

I can’t tell you enough how much I want Ellison to buy this team.

by phiLthyphiL on Jul 9, 2009 12:45 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Amar'e doesn't want to play center.

I think that is a big part of him nixing the trade. I don’t know who they have to play center in Phoenix, other than Robin Lopez, maybe Ben Wallace. But that is really what this comes down to. He doesn’t want to play C. He would come to the Dubs if he could play next to Biedrins. That’s why he said that the Warriors were “giving up too much” in the trade. That was all said in a Marcus Thompson II article from last week.

If the Warriors could find a way to keep Biedrins, Ellis, Jackson, Curry and either Wright or Randolph, and still make this trade, then Amar’e would sign on. He just doesn’t want to play center, at least not in our system. I think he realizes that his body isn’t where it once was and he doesn’t want to have to risk it playing 82 games at C. He just isn’t down for that role.

by myk on Jul 9, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because there's very little difference between a 4 and 5

Amare’s “I don’t want to play center” talk makes me a little uncomfortable.

It might mean, “I don’t want to have to work that hard on defense, so make sure there’s somebody else on the team who can play the biggest/toughest guy on the other team.”

by Ronaldinho on Jul 9, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suns & Warriors

They will both be watching the western conference playoffs from their couches.

Both teams are mediocre. Only difference is that 3 years ago people had the Suns as contenders to win it all. The Dubs 3 years ago were trying to get into the Playoffs which they hadn’t done in 11+ years. The Dubs aren’t good in the West. The Suns aren’t any better off right now either.

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by gabezgsw on Jul 9, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather have Bosh anyways

Bosh is younger, rebounds better, passes better, more efficient, no history of being injury prone, a seems to be a better professional and not as conceited as amare is. How about Biedrins Belinelli Wright for Bosh instead of Amare?

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by JustSomeName on Jul 9, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Amare is a better rebounder and more efficient than Bosh. Bosh racks up more assists, but neither of them are particularly impressive in that regard. Bosh has also stated he’s going to be a FA and won’t sign an extension.

by Missing Barry on Jul 9, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bosh has also stated he’s going to be a FA and won’t sign an extension.

Not even a sign&trade?

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by JustSomeName on Jul 9, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can anyone argue with him when he calls us mediocre?

Assuming that Monta comes back 100% next year, we get healthy, AR plays as well as he played at the end of last year, and Curry is a decent NBA player … we’re probably hanging around seeds 6-10 in the west.

Isn’t that the definition of medicore?

To get beyond mediocre, in addition to all that, AR is going to have to expand his offensive game and Curry (the 7th player taken in a two person draft) is going to have to be an above-average point. Those aren’t impossible conditions, but really, how can you NOT call us mediocre?

by Ronaldinho on Jul 9, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

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