Ridiculous expectations: All Star Weekend Shootout

by warriorsvictim on Aug 6, 2009 12:14 PM PDT Comment 22 comments

Considering the NBA play of Morrow and Buike last year, and the fact that we have had 2 years of media-hyped, solid NCAA play from Curry to review, I think it is reasonable to expect that the Warriors will have three players in the NBA top 5 for 3 point shooting at the All Star break.

A lot of teams have had the potential for two. I can't think of another team who has ever had a legitmate chance at three, so please jump in if you have the memory for it.

Curry is a big "if" right now, but I think he will earn a decent amount of playing time based on his collegiate play, draft position, summer performance, and pedigree, and it will be easier for him to get 3pt shot off than do anything else as a rookie. Everyone knows he can shoot, so he will be guarded, but finishing inside and distributing the ball are much more difficult than finding his spot and catching/shooting.

Here are last year's stats for each player:

3PM-A 3P%

Azibuike 94-210 0.448 4th in league at year end

Morrow 86-184 0.467 Lead the league

Curry 130-336 0.387 5th in NCAA at year end based on made 3pters

The NBA has no responsibility to select anyone for the 3pt shootout based on their performance. We all watched the Dubs get egregiously snubbed last year so they could select based on a mysterious agenda. But let's say these three lead the league at the break and have made enough shots to meet the volume requirements.

Would the NBA dare to completely diss our team again?

What should our reaction be if that takes place?

I would not be surprised if they ignore 1 or 2 of the guys if they are sent to the Frosh/Soph game. The NBA considers any amount of participation in the weekend to be so amazing that players should kiss Stern's feet for simply being allowed in, but I find the 3pt Shootout to be far more prestigious, especially when you have earned a spot by out-performing your peers. Not to mention way more people watch it than watch the rookie game.

As an NBA fan, I would rather have the drama of the league's best shooters competing against each other, even if several participants are from the same team. The NBA could hype that up as a dominant shooting team with players who are seeking to show each other who the man really is. They can pretend like they hate each other during the contest and talk mad trash to make it interesting for the casual fan.

Is that crazy?

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buike

shoots too slowly for the contest.

by saintdee on Aug 6, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

And Curry wont get enough playing time or have enough shots to even be considered.

So its Morrow or bust, but if were lucky and they both do real well we may have Morrow and AR in the rook game.

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by qin on Aug 6, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

you mean sophmore games for morrow/ar

But morrow better make it to the 3pt challenge.

by mosdl on Aug 6, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thought it was the same thing, guess I should have said Rookie/sophmore game.

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by qin on Aug 6, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if they even want to participate...

I cant imagine why someone would turn the opportunity down barring injuries, but I am sure it happens.

I dont think Buike shoots too slow though. He could pick it up for the contest.

I am not so sure Curry wont get enough shots. Morrow had enough last year and he didnt play that much. The player just needs to shoot a lot which may be Curry’s downfall is Nellie is pushing him to be a PG above all else

by warriorsvictim on Aug 6, 2009 1:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

As far as Curry getting enough shots, lets hope not, remember even though it was good for Morrow to be on the floor as much as he was it was really only due to having 8 guys in uni at a time and I really dont want to see a repeat of that.

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by qin on Aug 6, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m surprised nobody has brought up the reality of the situation. None of those guys are well known. Curry is the biggest star of the 3, and he’s a rookie that has yet to play an NBA game. Also, non-Warriors fans don’t care about the Warriors at all, we’re almost entirely irrelevant to the NBA landscape. There’s one criteria for who gets chosen: how many people want to see them in the contest? We get one invitation at best.

by Missing Barry on Aug 6, 2009 2:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

That’s why I don’t think Azubuike can make it this upcoming season. Morrow might be able to, if he has a few more big nights and gets his name buzzing around as one of the best shooters; I think that’s very possible. He didn’t get in last year because he was still a no-name player, and the Warriors sucked.

Stephen Curry might be able to because he’s somewhat of a big name coming out of college and has potential to be one of the top rookies. And yes, no one cares about the Warriors anymore but if Golden State does surprisingly good next season then we’ll get enough recognition for the 3 point contest. That’s how it was in 2007, no one cared about Golden State until they made the playoffs, but they still managed to get Monta in the rookie-sophomore game because he was helping the team get some buzz.

Also, even though Azubuike was number 4 in the league in 3pt percentage (2nd in the league until the very last game) I still don’t think that’s good enough. Like already mentioned, he has to be a little popular. Not only that, but the league would want players who make three’s in bunches as well. They sometimes would rather have someone who’s number 3 in the league in three points made, than someone who’s a top percentage shooter but is only like 80th in the league in three point made.

by Precise Films Productions on Aug 6, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree all it takes is winning to make us more relevant to the NBA scene again, I just don’t think anything short of being a top 3 team at the All-star break will bring us any recognition (since playoffs are long after the 3 point contest). Looking beyond this year the playoffs would be a good first step to get recognition for our players. The bottom line is the perception of who the leagues best shooters are changes very slowly, and that perception (the fans perception, that is) is what gets guys into the contest.

by Missing Barry on Aug 6, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Morrow and Randolph will both be in the rookie game. Ellis may be an all-star, with Randolph on the outside looking in, but he does have a chance to make the Varsity game that weekend. Curry won’t get enough playing time to be considered in either the 3 point shooting contest or the rookie game. I could see Ellis, Randolph and Morrow making it to that weekend in some capacity. With the obvious lack of centers Biedrins needs to be considered for the all-star game too. Shaq is no longer in the Western conference, Yao is out for the season and Jefferson looks like pure hype. So name me 3 better centers in the west then Biedrins?

by nocal81 on Aug 6, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

name me 3 better centers in the west then Biedrins?

Bynum, Oden, and Duncan?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Aug 6, 2009 4:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Bynum would definitely get in before Biedrins, no matter what their respective stats are.

by Missing Barry on Aug 6, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oden? Really?

Maybe in the future but right now AB is probably the best true C in the West now that Yao is injured and Shaq is out East. That’s not saying much b/c there a bunch of very good C but no true dominant C.

There’s no C on the West that I’d trade AB for aside from the potential of Oden and Bynum but neither have yet to be as effective as AB.

Then you got Okur, Camby, and Nene who I’d consider on the same tier as AB.

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by FLAxwless on Aug 6, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you seriously just say Oden? Yeah i guess 9-7 makes you better then Biedrins!!! Bynum is a career 8 and 6 player LOL are you serious? Beidrins averaged 11.9-11.2 last season. I cannot even fathom how you would think Oden is better the Biedrins? Bynum? Possibly but that’s extremely debatable

by nocal81 on Aug 6, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bynum plays for the Lakers, though, and when it comes to being an All-star, that’s a huge plus in his favor.

by Missing Barry on Aug 6, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jefferson scores points, I’m 90% sure he’d make the all-star team ahead Biedrins too.

Thing A

by sam23 on Aug 6, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fair enough, though I’ll still know Biedrins is clearly better. Bynum’s different because you could make a reasonable argument he’s better than Biedrins.

by Missing Barry on Aug 9, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe you need reading comprehension....

There’s no C on the West that I’d trade AB for aside from the potential of Oden and Bynum but neither have yet to be as effective as AB.

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by FLAxwless on Aug 6, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

he wasn’t replying to you, was he?

Thing A

by sam23 on Aug 6, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would be amazed if Curry shot at a high percentage this year.

Azubuike does not have the stigma of a 3 point shooter, which makes it very unlikely he’ll get any notice unless he goes off and leads the league.

Morrow, if he shoots at or near the level he shot last year, will get in.

by belilaugh on Aug 6, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I dont think Monta makes it

There are too many really good guards in the West and Monta does not stand out as an All Star, just a really good player. For people who are not Warriors fans Monta stands out no more than Kevin Martin, and I wouldnt call him an All Star by a long shot.

As far as star power goes, I hate that factor. I love it for the Big Game – that’s what it’s all about – and I dont mind it for teh dunk contest, but for a skills challenge like shooting and passing/dribbling, you should have the best players. period.

Casual fans would probably rather see really high quality in the contests than sucky people they recognize. Besides, do Daequan Cook and Rashard Lewis really have that much star power?

by warriorsvictim on Aug 7, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs