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In the late 80s, the Atlanta Hawks mattered. The TBS "Superstation" aired most, if not all of their games, and if you were a complete basketball junkie like myself who would watch every game aired, you watched the Hawks often. That was not such a bad thing. They were exciting. They had all world-scorer Dominique Wilkins, still the best basketball player born in France. They had Doc Rivers running their offense, Tree Rollins and Kevin Willis up front, and the exciting gravity defying Anthony "Spud Webb" off the bench. From 1985 through 1989, they had 4 consecutive 50+ win seasons and were a threat to knock anyone out of the playoffs. Even through the 90s, then-coach Lenny Wilkens kept them in the playoffs far more often than not. But the new millennium has been lest kind. Were they still forced upon us by Turner's broadcasting might, they still weren't worth watching.

 

Well, they weren't worth watching until the last two seasons. Things have changed for the better in the ATL. With back-to-back playoff appearances and a young talented core, the Hawks are once again worth tuning in.

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Find out more about the Hawks, after the jump.

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Recent History:

 

Coming off of 47 wins and a 2nd place showing in the Southeastern division. Last year they took Cleveland to a 7th game in Eastern Semis. That's the sort of thing that you can do with a talented group of athletes who show no fear.

 

The improvement in the ATL really goes back another season when the upstarts took eventual champs Boston to 7 games as well. Increased efficiency from the amazingly athletic combo forward Josh Smith and the increasingly steady and productive Marvin Williams, coupled with a solidly productive if not particularly flashy post play from Al Horford helped steer the Hawks skyward. Joe Johnson's scoring totals (despite rather average scoring efficiency) draws considerable attention as well. Mike Bibby, on board for the whole season after being acquired mid-year in 07-08 rounded out a potent starting 5 with no glaring weaknesses, a squad to underestimate at your own peril.

 

The Present:

 

There is little reason to believe that the Hawks will falter this season. Smith, Williams, and Horford are young, and still in the ascent of their careers. Johnson is still at the top of his game and remains an exceptional distributor from the off guard position. Bibby enjoyed a solid season after being freed from Sacramento's increasing irrelevant position in the NBA world and should once again keep th Hawks in the upper echelon of the Eastern Conference playoff picture.

 

How much better than this they can do depends on overcoming their Achilles Heel: rebounding. While Horford commands and deserves respect on the glass, neither Smith nor Williams adequately support him in the endeavor, and even with Johnson's usual size advantage over other guards, the backcourt was strictly average. The Hawks were regularly beaten on the boards. While Smith's athleticism, shot blocking and rare commitment to to the cause anchors a defense that should be in the top 3rd in the Association, unless they can turn more opponent missed shots into defensive stops, the Hawks will not be able to challenge the Eastern Conference elites. Considering how weak Atlanta was on the defensive glass (24th out of 30) their 12th place finish in total defensive efficiency is actually quite remarkable.

 

Unfortunately, there's little reason to believe that the rebounding will improve significantly this year.  Every minute new acquisition and Warrior connection Jamal Crawford plays will make this even more difficult. Jamal's rebounding phobia may not have been formerly diagnosed by his physician, but it has been evident throughout his decade in the league, and there is no known cure. The more he plays, the less likely Crawford will end his personal playoff drought. The draft similarly does not appear to have addressed this issue in number 19 pick Jeff Teague. Teague hails from Wake Forest but he is unlikely to become another Chris Paul, and more closely resembles former Demon Deacon Randolph Childress (also taken with the #19 pick in the 1995 draft), another combo guard with a less than impressive pro career. Rounding out the significant new faces with the Hawks is the now well traveled Joe Smith. Signed to the vet minimum, Joe Smith adds depth as a backup "big", but history suggests that his contribution will be modest at best. His best asset may be spelling the other, more significant Smith.

 

Prognosis: 

 

Not enough has changed. There are worse fates than being saddled with a starting lineup that, top to bottom would be tough to upgrade, but the flip side is that there's no real reason to believe that these Hawks are poised to join Orlando, Boston or Cleveland as serious title contenders. Adding two former Warriors is not a good omen. Think they'll help? Me neither. Yet the core remains intact with Bibby returns on a new 3-year deal. To make big strides, Horford, Josh Smith and Williams will have to step things up. Last year all three missed at least 10 games with injuries. Good luck with health may allow them to squeeze out a handful of additional wins.

 

Prediction:

 

49 wins. 2nd round exit from the playoffs.  Jamal should finally get a taste of the playoffs and once there, no one wants to see the Hawks in a short series. In the playoffs, a young, athletic team like the Hawks, a team that shoots the long ball often and shoots it well, can scare (and possibly upset) anyone in a short series. Tune them in when they're on the tube. You will be entertained.

 

 

 

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My Hawks don't mess around because they ballin so and this I know fo shooooooooo

I can’t say I necessarily remember the days of Spudd Webb and Dominique, but I do recall seeing the Hawks in the playoffs for quite some time in the 90s. Lenny Wilkins was a great coach (obviously), Mt. Mutombo was at the height of his career, and they had a great shooter in Steve Smith.

Now? Can’t deny they’re a fun team to watch. Two years ago when they made the playoffs and almost shocked the world by beating the Celtics, I remember they tossed up a “We Believe” shirt in the locker room as some extra motivation. It didn’t quite work out (I think they got blown out that game) but it was still a great story.

Last year? Beyond the bone-headed moves (cue YouTube clip), they had talent and only added to it this offseason.

GOOD LUCK JAMAL! It’s just me and u, yo momma, and joe smith too, rollin down the strip on vogues, comin up slammin Caillac doooors

Joe Smith…isn’t that the most generic name, EVER?!

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by R Dizzle on Sep 1, 2009 6:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Joe Smith...generic name ever?

lol No I think it’s John Smith.

The probability that you just read my signature: 1

by girltothemax on Sep 1, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Hawks can be fun to watch. They’re also in the Eastern Conference, so rooting for them wouldn’t really present a conflict of interest with rooting for the Warriors. I can’t jump on the bandwagon, though…how do you pass up on Chris Paul? Or even Deron Williams? Idiots. What position did they have the biggest need at? PG.

by Missing Barry on Sep 1, 2009 8:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

classic album

tony, my man, you’ve got a gift.

by dubsfan510 on Sep 1, 2009 8:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL... wait till you see tomorrow's ...!

Beyond Golden State of Design... and than some!
http://www.tonypsd.blogspot.com/

by Tony.psd on Sep 1, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, the Hawks got swept by Cleveland, and were taken to a 7th game by Miami. They’re not going to challenge for the East title, let alone a championship. I’m also not sure what you mean by a “short series”, since the playoffs are all best-of-7, which isn’t exactly short.

by genesic on Sep 1, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Hawks are going to be worse

Jamal Crawford is subtraction by addition. He’ll be taking shots away from his more talented teammates while giving up more points to scrubs than he scores on a nightly basis.

At this point of his career, Mike Bibby is just an over-glorified, light-skinned version of Derek Fisher. I don’t know why they brought him back, and for that much money too.

They’re probably still better than us, but they’re not any good. They’ll slip to a lower seed in the East and get swept by Cavs/Celtics/Magic in the first round.

"We Deserve"

by YaHeard on Sep 1, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the fisher comparison is unfair. bibby has been better across the board for his career. he’s getting up there in years, so the signing is very questionable, but he’s been a much better pro than fisher, who probably has received a bit more glory than bibby for his career.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Sep 1, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are you talking about ?

Who has Crawford ever taken away shots from and what scrubs has he given up all these points too. You always see throwing it out there but they can never have any actual proof . Wasnt Nelson basically begging Crawford to shoot at times last year when he decided to he was gonna sacrifice his shots for the team ?

Bibby is nothing like Fisher right now .Fisher has basically zero responsibility on the Lakers other than to get out of Kobe’s way .

The Hawks are gonna be fine they have added some pro depth and another guy in Crawford to take some of the playmaking pressure off of Joe.

I expect them to be slightly better at home and much better on the road taking them about .500 on the road which will push them over 50 wins this season.

by Hoopforia on Sep 3, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Who has Crawford ever taken away shots from and what scrubs has he given up all these points too.”

Crawford has a careet .517 TS%. That is well below average. On average, when he shoots, he is hurting the team because any average player in the NBA would be more likely to score than he is. As for the second part, the better question is….who has he actually stopped from scoring? The answer? Nobody. Ever. Crawford has some skills, and he’s athletic, but when it comes to playing 5 on 5 basketball, what he does on the court actively makes his team lose.

by Missing Barry on Sep 3, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

considering his ts% was one of the worst on the team and whenever he shot, he did prevent one of his teammates who were better shooters than him from taking a shot, that seems like he took shots away from more capable players.

here is the list of players who should have been shooting instead of jamal crawford last year:

-andris biedrins
-kellena azubuike
-ronny turiaf
-cj watson
-corey maggette
-anthony morrow
-brandan wright
-marco belinelli

and just for fun, a list of hawks who were better shooters last year:

-mike bibby
-al horford
-marvin williams
-zaza pachulia
-maurice evans
-ronald murray
-solomon jones

and as missing barry said, his mediocre shooting is the only respectable part of his game. he doesn’t even pretend to rebound or guard anyone, so he makes his team worse whenever he steps on the floor.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Sep 5, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watching Hawks on TBS

and reruns on TV20. quintessential bay are experiences in the 80s

by yobo on Sep 1, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Took Cleveland to 7 games? I wish.

To me that series represented just how wide the gap is between the Hawks and the teams ahead of them in last year’s playoffs.

by RocketHawk on Sep 1, 2009 4:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To be fair.

Literally every one of their starters was playing injured, or occasionally not playing at all, for the bulk of the series.

It was kind of sad that what should have been an interesting series was basically ruined by the Hawks having a hobbled Horford and Marv barely able to play, much less play against LeBron.

Straight Outta Vancouver - The Memphis Grizzlies DO Still Exist

by djturtleface on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Late 80's Hawks...

Yeah, I watched them religiously. I had the full sized Nique “Measure Up”poster on my wall next to the Mailman and a distorted Ewing. These days I just dont bite on them being much of a force. As good as Josh Smith can be at times I keep waiting for him to self-destruct. Marvin Williams will always be a poor mans Darko because of where he was drafted. And as good as Bibby was and might still be, I’d still rather watch that 5’7" lightning bug with the 42 inch vertical from North Carolina.

by FiveAlarmFreddy on Sep 1, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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