Dallas Ready to Deal?
by w00143881 on Sep 14, 2009 9:24 AM PDT
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With the recent rumor of Dallas and Warriors potentially in discussion regarding swingman Stephen Jackson, I would like to add a somewhat realistic possibility of such a trade. ESPN has published a story about James Singleton, who played fairly well for the Mavs last season, accepting Dallas’ offer of $1.03 Million for this up coming season:
Sources: Mavs to re-sign F Singleton [ESPN]
“The formal re-signing of Singleton is expected early this week. The Mavericks have kept the offer on the table all summer despite the fact that Singleton, as of Monday, represents their 17th guaranteed contract for the 2009-10 season. NBA teams are limited to carrying 15 players, and, thanks to the recent arrivals of Shawn Marion, Drew Gooden and Tim Thomas to flank Dirk Nowitzki, minutes would appear to be scarce in the Mavericks' frontcourt…Sources told ESPN.com that the Mavericks are actively pursuing two-for-one trades in hopes of easing the roster logjam before training camp starts Sept. 28, with center Nathan Jawai and swingman Shawne Williams among those being made available.”
Now I ask, doesn’t it seem like something the Warrior’s Front Office would do; Trade away some expensive talent for some raw, unproven, potentially terrible but inexpensive young players to save money? Sure, Jawai would give us some size (actually, a lot of it), and Williams, if his off court troubles could remain in check, MAY blossom. But could this be where we are heading; More “potential” players Warrior fans grasp on to, praying one day they will break out and bring respect back to Bay Area NBA teams?
But WAIT WAIT WAIT…For this to work, however, given that Dallas is nearing cap space (or maybe above it), the money part of it would have to work out.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pxgdzf
Warriors would pick up 3 more expiring contracts, drop 2 long-term contracts, become an even younger team than we already are, save about 2 million a year while satisfying Dallas’ need to make a two for one. Dallas seems to enjoy being an older team and Warrior seem to enjoy being a younger team. SJAX has wanted to go to a contending texas playoff team and we want to dump Maggette. Is this feasible and likely? Would we be satisfied with a deal like this?
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I wish this would happen but I doubt Mark Cuban will make us happy by taking off the two worst contract we have.
by saintdee on Sep 14, 2009 3:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure
Why not Andris Biedrins for JaValee McGee, and Nick Young.
You guys are killing me with these ridiculous trades. S-Jax is not going anywhere.
by sjboy on Sep 14, 2009 4:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
people are too caught up with cap-relieve.
"IT'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!"
by Curry on Sep 14, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you care about the team not being able to add a good free agent any time soon, you should be concerned about the cap.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Sep 14, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but why for trash?
"IT'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!"
by Curry on Sep 14, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so we can get cap space to sign a free agent. we aren’t getting great players for jackson, cap space gives us the opportunity to find a great player.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Sep 14, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that the sort of cap space to sign an impact free agent, coupled with the ability to attract an impact free agent is somewhat difficult to fathom. “Great players” are difficult to come by, and signing them as free agents is among the rarer means of getting one.
by jae on Sep 20, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair. let me rephrase: cap space givs us a shot at getting a player better than stephen jackson.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Sep 20, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nitpicking
but I’d say it more like this: cap space givs us a shot at getting a player with the potential to be much better than stephen jackson.
Thing A
by sam23 on Sep 22, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or even: cap space givs us a shot at getting a player who will be much better than stephen jackson in 2011.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Sep 22, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is how the statement can be written
“cap space givs us a shot at getting a player who will be much [better/worse] than [Insert any player’s name, past, present, or future] in [insert year]”
We could get the next Jordan, the next Vin Baker, the next Stephen Jackson, or the next Kwame Brown. Cap space allows us to sign a player (or two, or three, but we won’t go there).
A player that some other team didn’t want (or they’d have re-signed him themselves). Furthermore, if we’re signing a free agent, we’re almost certainly giving them a contract at or above their market value (see: Maggette, Corey) because we’ve got competitors for their services. What’s the likelyhood that we get somebody better than Jackson at 8M/season? I’d say 40% at best. Guys that make that much don’t fly under the radar like Turiaf.
The only reason I’d really be looking to dump Jax for cap space is if we needed that cap space to re-sign our talented youngsters down the road. But we’ve got ~$9M in expirings (Claxton, George, Law), and a few others that we may or may not bring back at a higher salary (Kelenna, Wright). Randolph should have a team option for 2 years, and Morrow will need to be paid, but not that much more, maybe $3M/season at most. At this point, we don’t need to dump Jax, and he’s still better than anybody we might have trouble re-signing.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Sep 23, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if the Mavericks are being run by a team of drunken, inbred, emotionally disturbed mountain gorillas, perhaps we can make this trade happen.
Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.
by Naticus on Sep 14, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cream Dreams
This one would be orgasmic if we could pull it off..We could never be that lucky..
by The Sear on Sep 14, 2009 11:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
doesn't anyone pay attention ?
The cap is going down a lot next year. Every team is gonna have to dump players to get under the 2010-11 cap number. The W’s are just ahead of the curve. Watch the players that are dumped by other teams next year. It will be like a buy on get one free sale.
by crab dribble cocktail on Sep 15, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Except that we have to make sure we’re under the cap also. We’re not in the best position to pick up a bunch of expenses.
Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.
by Naticus on Sep 15, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've come to the conclusion that removing Jackson might be addition by subtraction on this team ...
… I’d accept a bag of doritos for him.
Hard to see how Dallas does this, though.
by Ronaldinho on Sep 15, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Dallas is looking to alleviate a roster logjam, they match up pretty horribly with us… we oughta be doing the same thing. Not that I wouldn’t love Jack or Maggette for Howard, but I just don’t think Cuban’s gonna do us that kind of favor.
by onlxn on Sep 15, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I didnt think they would be
Able to get rid of Murphlevy
by farid on Sep 15, 2009 11:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Dallas wanted to do some kind of Howard for Jackson deal,
it would have happened during last season. Dallas sees itself as a player in the 2010 free agency and will stop taking on contracts that go past next season. Once they signed Marion, I believe that was the end of taking on contracts, unless they were able to get a good player by giving up almost nothing in return, such as trading Shawn Williams, Nathan Jawai, etc. They will not trade a talent like Howard to get a worse/better player (depends on your point of view) whilte taking on a much worse contract.
S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.
by srdmad on Sep 21, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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