Around the Association: 2009-2010 Minnesota Timberwolves - Donde esta Senor Rubio?
by R Dizzle on Sep 17, 2009 3:00 PM PDT
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Senor Rubio,
Donde esta mi ago? You were drafted by the Minnesota Timberwolves with this 5th pick back in June, and yet unlike Eddie Murphy in a fine film, you did not end up Coming to America.
Instead you decided to stay despite wanting no more from your former team, DKV Joventut. So you got them to trade your rights to Regal Barcelona, and poof, you signed a 6 year contract with them. Does this mean you're staying there all 6 years? No. But it does mean it will be a while before you end up coming to the States.
Now what you ask?
Listen Ricky, I get it. I understand why you didn't want to be a part of the T-Wolves. Although they have a great fan base (if you haven't I suggest checking out our SB Nation brother Canis Hoopus), they don't really have a great team. Let's be honest, a record of 24-58 is pretty hard to go to. They lack a superstar and an all-star, but hey, there's potential right? Trust me, I know how that feels.
But let's look at what this organization did for you without even signing you!
Key additions:
Ramon Sessions,Antonio Daniels, Jonny Flynn, Wayne Ellington, Oleksiy Pecherov, Chucky Atkins, Damien Wilkins, Ryan Hollins, Mark Blount, Sasha Pavlovic
Key subtractions: Randy Foye, Mike Miller, Sebastian Telfair, Craig Smith, Mark Madsen, Kevin Ollie, Q-Richardson
Essentially, the T-Wolves traded away two capable players (Foye and Miller) to the Wizards in order to draft you at number 5. They hired a new coach, former Lakers assistant coach Kurt Rambis. New T-Wolves GM , David Kahn, even made plenty of trips to Spain in order to speak with you and your family as well as DKV about a potential buyout. They even claim that the details were worked out. It would have been hard since due to the rookie pay scale, the buyout clause from your DKV contract would have prevented you from making any money directly from the T-Wolves. But hey, there would have been crazy endorsement contracts to sign and you would have made some good money.
Nonetheless, I can see your point. Why go to the T-Wolves? They're a terrible a team, especially since losing KG. That trade was straight up silly, but hey, whatever works to get the Celtics a championship, right? Furthermore,with the T-Wolves original pick at #6, they chose another point guard! Jonny Flynn + Ricky Rubio = weird back court. I get that. But so does Stephen Curry + Monta Ellis, right? Take a look at the Warriors, it's going to be a great year for us!
Moreover, I get that you want to be the focus of the town. Kinda hard when some old guy keeps wavering around a comeback all summer and then finally decides to join a team mid-training camp. No names to be mentioned here. Only pictures.
- Win less than 27 games
- Sessions + Flynn = strange back court, but somehow it manages to work
- Kevin Love has another monster year
- We all see a ton of potential
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Donde esta mi ago?
Where is Pat Morita??
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Sep 17, 2009 9:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha
That’s pretty hilarious.
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by Atma Brother ONE on Sep 18, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Spain
we don’t speak like mexican people lol
absolutely different
anyway, our dearest friend, Dan Fegan, has corrupt the Rubio’s mind
Rubio wanted go to the NBA but Fegan only wants a major market for him. Rubio will never play with the Wolves.
by Spaniard on Sep 18, 2009 4:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
my apologies
Being California born and raised, I have only been exposed to the Mexican version of the Spanish language. Gimme some credit for knowing a bit of Spanish!
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by R Dizzle on Sep 18, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
don´t worry, it is a common error. I think the most people in USA thinks this. the films, the videogames… all voices are mexican people although they were spanish caracters.
I don’t like Rubio did. I understand the haters. But I understand him too. He is only 18, leave his little town, leave his friends, change his country, change his language… it is a big step. I think everything would be easier If the kings would had drafted him.
by Spaniard on Sep 19, 2009 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the greatest spaniard
to play a mexican in U.S. film industry: antonio banderas!
by dj fuzzylogic on Sep 21, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the greatest spaniard to play a mexican in U.S. film industry: antonio banderas!
or Ren the chihuahua ??
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Sep 21, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
should have never listen to him Dan Fagen
now he has all these haters. He should have listen to his own peeps instead and should have waited more (another year) before entering the draft but what is done is done. Signing for Regal FC Barcelona He did what was financially secure for him and his family a safe bet
Anywaz to be more specific he is at the Eurobasket in Poland, they are in the semi-finals. Just recently up against France he defended the Hell out of Tony Parker to the point that he couldn’t score it was Parker’s all time low and Rubio’s best so far. France crumbled without their star player 
by anen87 on Sep 19, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubio is a punk who I hope never steps onto an NBA court. "Waa, I got picked by the T-Wolves" Well yeah, if you’re a high draft pick guess what, you more than likely be going to a bad team.
"Waa, I don’t want to pay my buyout". Then don’t sign the contract stupid, and don’t enter the draft. I hope two things come from this, that the NBA has a mandatory contract for overseas players coming into the draft and that they change the rule so that teams can put more than 500K towards the buyout.
I’m just real glad this punk didn’t fall to us and put us in this situation.
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by qin on Sep 18, 2009 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
“Waa, I don’t want to pay my buyout”. Then don’t sign the contract stupid, and don’t enter the draft
why would he have not done either of those things? as a teenager if a pro team offers you a contract, do you really turn it down? then, in order to buy your way over to the states, would you really want to put up almost $10M to get out of that deal? or would you just enter the draft, wait your 3 years (when the buyout gets smaller AND when the rookie scale for 1st round picks no longer applies) and have some leverage upon your arrival? i can see not wanting your team to draft him, even though he is a special talent, but to call out a teenager for making the financially obvious decision and waiting until the ripe old age of 21 to play in the NBA seems silly.
i agree that NBA teams should be able to put more than 500K toward a buyout, though. that really would have helped the wolves out and will help teams that will find themselves in this position in the future.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Sep 18, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but to call out a teenager for making the financially obvious decision and waiting until the ripe old age of 21 to play in the NBA seems silly.
Then dont enter the draft. Nothing silly about taking responsibilities for your actions.
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by qin on Sep 18, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he no longer has to negotiate with the rookie scale after 3 years. if i had a young client playing overseas, i’d have him wait 3 years to get leverage in the contract negotiations. the sooner he enters the draft, the sooner he can come to the NBA on his financial terms. what’s so bad about him making the best decision for him financially?
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Sep 18, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that it’s a punk thing to do and there will be rule changes to stop just this sort of thing from happening again.
I would have loved to see this punk drop into the 2nd round, but wait thats what should have happened then he would not have had to wait the 3 yrs as there is no guaranteed contracts.
Hell, why dont all NBA players do this? Get drafted, say screw you and go over seas for 3 years. That is the future of the NBA right there!
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by qin on Sep 18, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
most NBA players didn’t have to shell out almost $10M of their own cash to start playing. ricky would have. i don’t blame him for waiting.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Sep 18, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again
Then he shouldnt have entered the Draft. It really is that sinple.
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by qin on Sep 18, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why? he can make his money and gain leverage by waiting to come over. he could only do this by waiting. teams knew this, and the wolves drafted him anyway. sorry for not thinking ill of the kid.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Sep 18, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then honor your contract, you know that little piece of paper that you signed as an adult.
Sorry, he is still a punk, and then crying that he just didn’t want to be to far away from home yet, give me a break.
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This house is full of m, m, mistakes!
by qin on Sep 18, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
his spanish team knew the risks, too. contracts for young phenoms are generally not beneficial to the player. check out what happens in european soccer for some real shady business dealings with talented young players.
and i’d bet the family talk was just so he didn’t have to say “it was all about the money, sorry.” it was just him trying to save face.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Sep 18, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree to disagree?
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by qin on Sep 18, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course. the point of every debate should be to foster agreement or clarify differences of opinion. we certainly accomplished the latter.
heart of a champion, will of the warrior.
by cap'n hack on Sep 19, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you.
This is a major problem with this sight and a reason why I don’t come here nearly as often as I use to and comment even less.
The air around here has grown thick with a combativeness that I find tedious and boring, plus being dyslexic I have a hard enough time with spelling and with no auto spell check here at work where I have to transfer everything form a word doc (and some things are so out of whack that even spell check does not know what I’m talking about) having a discussion here becomes even more not worth the time.
So unless your part of the "in" crowd around here or think your better than everyone else because of some useless or otherwise useful degree to comment on a blog sight then it just does not become worth what winds up being insults rather than comments regarding the substance of what was written.
So again thank you for being civil in the different way we see the situation.
This house is full of m, m, madness!
This house is full of m, m, mistakes!
by qin on Sep 21, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then dont enter the draft. Nothing silly about taking responsibilities for your actions.
It was Fagen’s idea and his fault. He should fire him xP
by anen87 on Sep 19, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see what he lost by entering the draft.
The real curious case what the T-wolves trading for a pick and then using it when it was a strong possibility that he wouldn’t arrive. His buyout situation and the fact that it would cost him so much to get out of his Euro league contract weren’t secrets. It was a real risk that if he wasn’t drafted in the top 3 the financial cost for him to play in the NBA would be such that it would make sense for him to stay in Europe.
I don’t know the exact terms of his new contract, but it apparently includes a buyout clause in two years that would be much more affordable for Rubio. Given that most scouting reports suggest that he could use the seasoning, it’s not such a bad deal for Minn, who don’t have to pay him for a couple of years while he matures. The T wolves will most likely get him in 2 years on a rookie scale and will more likely have him as a useful player under that rookie scale than they would if he showed up now, not at all ready to contribute substantially.
by jae on Sep 19, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The T wolves will most likely get him in 2 years on a rookie scale and will more likely have him as a useful player under that rookie scale than they would if he showed up now, not at all ready to contribute substantially.
If he can really guard MrLongoria now then he’ll have lots of value for Minny in a couple of years?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Sep 19, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
chew that ball -aaaarrrgrgrgrgrgrgg
I’m a monster, I’m a monster!
by yobo on Sep 18, 2009 8:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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