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It's far from clear what the 2009-10 Phoenix Suns will be.  It's far from clear *who* they will be.  In the mean time, there's intrigue, and still quite a bit of firepower.

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Tough to predict, it won't be boring.

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New Faces:

Earl Clark (F drafted #14 overall)

Channing Frye (PF/C signed as a FA)

Sasha Pavlović (G/F) Contract Bought Out

Ben Wallace (C) Contract Bought Out

 

Departed:

Shaquille O'Neal (C, traded for two guys who aren't on the roster)

A Clear Plan (lost to time, trades and the ravishing axe of the bottom line, fighting desperately to avoid huge luxury tax penalties.)

 

Prognosis:

This is no longer the up-up tempo team from a few years ago that could honestly contend for a title. It isn't even the team from a year ago that stayed in playoff contention up until the bitter end of the season.  Shaq is gone, in a move largely designed to avoid the luxury tax.  Everyone else is older.  The present state-of-the-Suns is best described as "in flux", which is a euphemism for "this can't possibly be a plan for a winner; we don't really expect this to last; anyone and everyone could be traded".


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Indeed Doc Brown's marvelous time travel engine might be welcome in the Valley of the Sun, to go back to a time when the Suns were a serious threat to win it all, a time when Steve Nash directed the most effective offense in the game, when the Matrix defied opposing forwards to figure out his game, when Stoudemire was fiece on the boards and D'antoni outdid Nellie with fast paced, uptempo play that wore most opponents into the dirt.

But while this is not a contender, and conventional wisdom suggests that anytime between when this article finds life with the "submit" button and the trading deadline more or less everyone on the roster is fair game for trade, the Suns still remain a reasonable potent team. Trade candidate #1, Amar'e Stoudemire should be recovered from a pair of unlikely eye injuries.  When healthy, he is one of the most dangerous offensive weapons in the league. He is equally effective finishing off the ever-common Nash assists and bull-rushing the basket, frequently getting to the line where he's an uncharacteristically good shooter for a man his size.   Stoudemire is already the subject of trade rumors, including a draft day doozy that had him ever so close towards sporting a Bay Area local address.  As a potential free agent should he opt out of the last year of his present contract, Stoudemire is an intriguing commodity, though any team interested will almost certainly want to work out a contract extension first.

With Shaq gone, Stoudemire will shoulder most of the interior scoring load while Coach Gentry waits for his "youth movement" of Channing Frye, Earl Clark, or perhaps 2nd year C Robin Lopez to provide any sort of complement.  Perhaps being closer to his alma mater will push some new life into Frye, but at present, he's a jump-shooting big forward who more often than not sees his jumper miss the mark.  He's a substandard rebounder.  While more regular playing time -- and this is all too probable the case -- his performance will likely rise, he will not help build a winner.  Clark is a versatile, athletic forward, long on "potential" though his college performance does not suggest that he will be an immediate answer as an NBA forward.

Trade candidate #2, top assist-man Nash is not the same player who won back-to-back MVPs, but he's still one of the elite shooting guards in the league and among the top passers in the game.  Phoenix recently signed Nash to a 2 year extension.  While this may mean they intend to keep him around as a bridge of stability, a team on the verge of a championship may still be willing to part with some value to gamble on Nash's last legs.

Having been dealt twice in as many years, shooting guard Jason Richardson (trade candidate #3) would also seem to be potential trade bait.  Golden State fans know that he's a more than capable scorer, though with a shrinking cap and 2 more high dollar years left on his contract, the potential suitors are once again limited to those willing to pay big for immediate rewards.

Stoudemire, Nash and Richardson are joined by speedster guard Leandro Barbosa and forward Grant Hill (back for another season at age 36), all able scorers, all efficient in this effort.  Together, the Suns should still be able to shoot their way into games. The problem will come when they try to stop the opposition.  Hill is the only Sun who was ever known as a superior defender, though at 36, he is no longer the stopper he once was.  Nash, Richardson, Barbosa and Stoudemire have never been known for their defense.  If Amar'e can regain his rebounding form, he could be an asset in that regard, but someone else will have to force the opposition into missing some shots, something that the current cast hasn't shown themselves able to do.    This is not a club build for defense.

Prediction:  Who knows?  If no one is traded, this team could still challenge for a playoff slot.  But if anyone (or everyone) is sent elsewhere for picks and "potential" all bets are off.  Rumors will certainly fly.  Will the Suns?

 

For more on the  Suns, check out our SBNation colleagues at: Bright Side Of The Sun

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For the Warriors sake, I hope they don't

If the Suns are flailing a few months in to the season their front office will have a hard time not justifying trading Amar’e or Nash. The Warriors might be able to make a play for one of them (if it looks to be worth it.) Even if they don’t, the Suns playing poorly makes one less team the Warriors have to worry about beating out for the final 2 playoff spots in the West.

by toddaverth on Sep 24, 2009 5:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Warriors shouldn't make a play for Nash

Don’t they have enough backcourters?

Amar’e would fit well in GS, but what would they give up for him?

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway

by LACK on Sep 26, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice summary and awesome poster!

This season will be even better as long as I'm drinking while watching!

by ZonaFlash on Sep 24, 2009 12:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pretty good summary, Jae. I’d add a couple of things:

Shaq is gone, in a move largely designed to avoid the luxury tax.

True, but he also clogged the middle which didn’t allow Amare to operate as he normally does. It has also been debated whether Nash “influenced” the trade as Shaq’s presence prohibited him from operating as he normally does-penetration and kick out, pick’n roll with Amare Sun Tzu.

Secondly, you noted Amare’s ability to take it to the rim, which is absolutely accurate, but let’s not forget his mid range game. He has developed into an above average shooter from 15-17 feet away.

Thanks for thinking of us out here in the desert. Good luck to y’all.

by Wil Cantrell on Sep 24, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was looking at Amar’e largely from a statistical basis. With Nash in, the majority of his baskets were assisted. Without Nash, his FG% dropped, but his scoring efficiency remained almost unchanged, largely because he got to the FT line more without Nash. He did more to draw contact, initiating things on his own when there wasn’t a pass to set up a clean score. That sort of diversity is highly valuable.

His percentage of jumpers (and yes, he has an effective mid range jumper —he really is among the most lethal offensive threats in the game) did not change terribly much with or without Nash. I suspect this means that when the shot was there, he took it.

I think that the perception that Shaq was limiting him was more damaging that Shaq actual limiting Amar’e. His efficiency declined, but it went from superhumanly good to merely amazing. He was still a highly effective scorer. Clearly, it got into his head, which was unfortunate and he seemed to let it affect the rest of his game. His rebounding dropped, but it dropped as much when Shaq played as when he sat. If it was just competing with Shaq for boards, when Shaq was on the bench, Stoudemire should have rebounded better. He didn’t. The effort wasn’t there.

by jae on Sep 24, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like how Steve Kerr is a little happy in that poster. What’s he happy about? LOL

If God dwells in all of us, like some people say he does, I sure hope he likes nachos, because that's what he's getting!

by Naticus2 on Sep 25, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What’s he happy about? LOL

probably thinking how lucky he was to play with MJ and then the spurs?

Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky

by Skeptic con Urquell on Sep 25, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel sorry for all the Suns fans out there

I also don’t know what Steve Kerr is trying to do. He rips apart a perfectly decent team to play more defense (which they didn’t do), then tries to revert back to the run-n-gun form, but this time he doesn’t have any of the players that made it so successful besides Amare, Barbosa, and Nash. I can’t believe that Robin “3 points, 2 rebounds, 1.5 fouls in 10 mpg” Lopez is their only real center. If I were the Suns, I’d just go super-small and play Nash at the point, Barbosa at the off-guard, Richardson at the 3, Grant at the 4, and Amare at the 5. Frye, Clark, and Lopez all should be bench guys at this point in their careers.

Oh wait, does Louis Amundson still play for them?

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway

by LACK on Sep 26, 2009 11:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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