Trade Idea for Ellis and Jackson
Well, I tried to stay away from blogging, but recent comments from two of our ego-maniacal players pushed me to come back to make some trade proposals that may or may not better the team/ be realistic, but hey, I think we all agree after Monday that something needs to be done to shake up the Warriors.
I am dissappointed in both Ellis and Jackson and think we should see if we can actually improve our team before these two let their unhappiness affect their play on the court. My proposal:
Monta Ellis to Dallas for Josh Howard or
Stephen Jackson and Acie Law to Dallas for Howard.
Follow that up with:
Jackson and Speedy Claxton to Phoenix for J-Rich or
Ellis and Deavan George for J-Rich.
Both trades give us value. Howard upgrades the SF position and J-Rich, although not the player he once was and still a defensive liability, is still a good player and also a consumate professional that can provide a good example for our young, up and coming players.
Mondays comments by both Ellis and Jackson show their maturity level as players and team leaders. Instead of pointing the finger at their flaws and a statement on how they look to improve themselves and help this team win, they decided to look elsewhere for a solution that does not reward their loyal fans who supported them despite their flaws on and off the court. I think keeping Jackson and Ellis will eventually begin to affect everyone in the locker room and lead to more players looking for a ticket out of town. Why not try and get something for them than drag the franchise into a further state of despair.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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re: Trade Idea for Ellis and Jackson
Lets do a sign and trade Alridge for Monte. Then send SJax and Speedy for JHoward. Way better trade.
VEry good idea and realistic – the j rich one is good too, but alridge would give us more size and toughness
realistic
Sure. If you’re interested, you could go over to Blazer’s Edge and ask them how “realistic” it is…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Sep 29, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
lol portland is thin upfront, deep in backcourt.... so they'll give up a forward for a combo guard!
sounds like something GSW would do!
I’d trade monta for a combo of rudy fernandez, travis outlaw and jerryd bayliss
Can someone tell me if darius miles contract is tradeable?
cause if so, thats a 9 million dollar exception they have.
monta + jack 4 fernandez, bayliss, outlaw + expiring…. Who knows then we could at least use his expiring plus others to get something off someone who is 2010 free agent crazy
i like that trade i think it will really help us
by we believe in Jamal on Oct 1, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh.
I’m still holding out for this one:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd3psec
Don’t go for second-best, baby, put your love to the test!
There will be no extra point!
Most likely the only position available for us to look at is
Small Forward and Center. The rest is a lock basically because the FO and Nelly said we’re committed to our youngins. If we can’t get an all star caliber player at any of our positions then were not doing anything.
Pg: Monta/Curry
Sg: Monta/Curry/Morrow
Sf: Jackson/Buike/Maggs/Randolph
Pf: Randolph/Wright/Turiaf
C: Biedrins/Turiaf/Moore
Why trade Ellis?
Do any of you guys remember how happy we were when we came back an he instantly made us a much better team as we almost beat the Cavs? Remember when we were looking forward to his return? He makes an honest and true comment about two small guards and everyone thinks he wants to leave. I’m disappointed in you guys, falling right into the media’s trap.
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "Your a rookie"
I agree… mostly. Monta’s tone sounds defiant, like he is upset with Nellie for planning on playing them together. If Nellie does play them together, and it turns out bad, Monta will be very unhappy. Sounds like Monta is trying to run the show a bit. It’s kind of arrogant. He’s not the coach, and they haven’t played together yet. Against some teams, it will probably work fine.
Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.
I didn’t hear that at all, either in the video clips I saw or the words I read. Monta talks about being a leader and listening to the coach and playing 100%. He also talks about how he can’t see playing alongside Curry because of size issues on the defensive end – a comment he amended later to say it could happen in certain matchups, but not generally (apparently after talking with Nelson.) He’s trying to be the leader he knows the team needs. He’s trying to support Nelson. He also doesn’t really see how he and Curry make a good backcourt, but is trying to swallow his skepticism to support the coach. That doesn’t sound defiant to me.
Well, he’s backtracked on what he said initially and had a talk with Nellie about it. Why did he have to backtrack that way, if what he said initially didn’t sound like he was trying to coach the team? It sounded like he was against EVER playing with Curry, in contradiction of Nellie’s comments, which is what sounded defiant. Now, he’s said that he accepts that at times, playing with Curry might work and that Nellie is the coach.
Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.
Monta's comments, day 2
Someone approached him and convinced him to “clarify” his statement the previous day. That he was willing to do it is a positive sign. It also helps trade value if it doesn’t appear that a team needs to unload a player because of a bad situation.
I could be wrong and he was just guilty of not thinking before he spoke, but put yesterdays comments together with his contradiction of Nelson on his Point Guard status earlier in the offseason and it does not sound like he is on the same page with Nelson.
I like that lebron idea
trade all our players for him. our line up will be
cj watson
morrow
lebron
buike
moore
i smell playoffs!
thats about +- 100 million of salary
any team that will trade this 2 together must give up about the same amount or a draft pick. dallas has already said that jacksons contract is to high for them to eat. and thats because of jason kidds contract. . the other thing is teams already signed high salaries with players and they dont want to trade them now! good ideas but captain jack and monta will be staying since wright got injured today and will be out for 6 months
by sports with steve on Oct 3, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions
SHAKE THINGS UP ALREADY !!!!!!
i like this idea.
Stephen Jackson and Acie Law to Dallas for Howard
and then trade ellis for josh smith of atlanta
and the trade maggette for kirk hinrich
starting five
pg hinrich 28 /curry
sg howard 29/morrow
sf randolph/buike
pf smith 23/george/turiaf
c biedrins/turiaf/moore
i think this works well for us in the now and in the long run.

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