Letter to Larry Ellison - Buy Our Warriors!
by G-State on Sep 30, 2009 7:41 PM PDT
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We were SO close to freedom. According to reputable sources, Larry Ellison (Oracle CEO) initiated a negotiation to acquire the Golden State Warriors. Those talks, however, halted. All Golden State Warrior fans are aware of how beneficial this move would be, and that is why all of us together are going to tell Larry Ellison how smart it would be for him to do whatever it takes to get a hold of this potentially promising franchise here in the Bay Area. The entire NBA knows that we are the best fans in the NBA and Larry Ellison needs to hear from us. If he knows how badly we want him to be the new owner of the Golden State Warriors, I think he will try again with more momentum. Together, we can do this. There is a "Letter to Larry Ellison" movement at http://www.BestFansInTheNBA.com/buy-the-warriors.html and once enough people are in support of it, the appropriate media outlets will be contacted in order to get the attention of Larry Ellison himself. We need change, and if we all work together, we can get Larry to make this golden investment.
Do your part as a dedicated fan and help get Larry's attention. Go "sign" the letter.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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I’d sign, if I didn’t have to make a new forum account.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Sep 30, 2009 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
REPOST:
Larry Ellison is not an owner you want… he is a Business Nazi!!!
If you know anything of Ellison, you would know how deceitful this man is. He has a history of low balling his own Employees for his own advantage. I ask GSOM’ers not to make a push for this man. The man has an army of lawyers to protect him, he doesnt need our support. Cohen may not be much better, but Mr. Ellison is not the answer. This man has put many of his Co-workers jobless without remorse! Though he is very successful, his accomplishments has come at the price of many others.
There is a reason that the NBA wont sell to this man. Shoot, they sold the NETS to a Russian for crying out loud!!!! Larry Ellison would be the equivalent of Al Davis if he were to own the Golden State Warriors. I wouldnt be surprised if he were to own the team, he would relocate. Im sure Don Nelson, is in Cohen’s ear as well, along with many others about not selling the team…. Im telling you GSOM, YOU DONT WANT LARRY ELLISON!!!!
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 2, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry Ellison is a proponent of MicroManaging...
I do not want to insult anyone’s intelligence but I think our desire for a new owner is overriding the fact that this man could care less about the game of basketball and that he just wants to “own” a NBA team.
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 2, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry Ellison would be the equivalent of Al Davis if he were to own the Golden State Warriors.
So he’s going to win us 4 championships? Yes please. Al Davis has had an incredibly successful career in football and is one of the most influential owners and people in major American sports. His contributions should be appreciated and celebrated, and the Warriors would be lucky to have someone like him involved in any way with their organization.
by Missing Barry on Oct 2, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
present Al Davis
dont fool yourself, im raider season ticket holder!!! Al Davis is the reason we’re in the shapr we’re in.
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 2, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s also the reason the Raiders were an incredibly successful NFL franchise for the majority of his ownership. I’m glad you have a short memory or no knowledge of history, but you have to recognize the good if you’re going to blame him for the bad.
(By the way, I take pleasure in the Raiders being terrible)
by Missing Barry on Oct 2, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes please.
Haha, Calm down! No way that Ellison knows as much about basketballl as Al does about football. Al was one of the pioneers of modern football theory. For many years the raiders were the winning est team in the league.
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 2, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
im speaking of styles of management...
Mr. Davis is a pioneer of the game of football but has fallen waist side and has been failing as an owner. The fans are rarely treated to anything in comparison to what the Warriors do i.e. BestBuy ticket promo’s, 4 for 4, family and friends night… stuff like that. Al can afford to do promo’s cause he overpays for players.
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 2, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has fallen waist side? What does that even mean?
by Rob Kurz blocks Yao Ming on Oct 4, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm is very hard to sense through blogging
but if you’re asking, I am simply stating that Mr. Davis is not what he once was. If you were also wondering, gogomaplata derives from a combination of both mounted and guard shin chokes that Brazilian Jiujitsu players use.
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you know anything of Ellison, you would know how deceitful this man is.
He has a history of low balling his own Employees for his own advantage.
The man has an army of lawyers to protect him, he doesnt need our support.
This man has put many of his Co-workers jobless without remorse!
Though he is very successful, his accomplishments has come at the price of many others.
The number of NBA owners that these descriptions wouldn’t apply to is pretty tiny… uber-successful businesspeople tend to play dirty pool. I don’t think Ellison would be any sort of panacea, but I don’t think some scummy business moves can disqualify him from the running. That’s kind of the cost of doing business with billionaires, sad to say.
There is a reason that the NBA wont sell to this man
Has the league resisted previous overtures from Ellison? My impression was that he’d only tried to buy the Warriors previously, and that Cohan had refused to sell. I could easily be wrong about that, though…
by onlxn on Oct 5, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good points
but i would rather have oprah own the team then this man
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by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! Well, I’m with you on that, I guess… hard to imagine that being boring.
by onlxn on Oct 5, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DONT SIGN IT!!!
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 2, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
just use a fake email address at the forum
by G-State on Sep 30, 2009 8:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Signed
Please Larry. Please! For the love of god buy this team!
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "Your a rookie"
by dubzfan on Sep 30, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry Ellison - Buy Our Warriors!
Does this Ellison guy even have any interest in basketball? If so does he have any expertise in the game? Other than apparently deep pockets what would make him a desirable owner?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Sep 30, 2009 10:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You don't seem to understand...
There’s a rock outside that would be an upgrade to the ownership of the Warriors. I don’t think he knows any more about basketball than a normal fan does, but this guy is extremely rich, and has interest in Bay Area sports. That’s good enough for me. I highly doubt he would run the Warriors as a penny pincher considering Wikipedia says “Ellison is the third richest American, with an estimated net worth of US $22.5 billion.”
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Sep 30, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With that in mind
With that type of money we can maybe convince players to come here like a Joe Johnson, like a Wade (hopefully) like a Bosh etc. Plus Nellie said he would do anything for free once his deal is up so maybe he serves as his advisor? The only way though we can even get a Joe Johnson is if we AR shows he is on his way to stardom or close to it and Monta is still here so he looks at us with interest. We would have to pay him 80- 95 million for him to come here.
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "Your a rookie"
by dubzfan on Sep 30, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is what I would expect atleast for a star to want to come here.
A Wade type player would need a 120 + million dollar deal to get him interested. And with his deep pockets buying Maggette’s contract out would be possible. With new ownership comes new jerseys (Please!)?
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "Your a rookie"
by dubzfan on Sep 30, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe Johnson is not a superstar, and I’ve even read a convincing argument (linked from a fanshot here) that he’s really not significantly better than Stephen Jackson. Also, buying Maggette’s contract out doesn’t free us from the cap ramifications of it. We simply are not in a position to go after a big time FA next offseason, so move past that idea.
by Missing Barry on Oct 1, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And with his deep pockets buying Maggette’s contract out would be possible
Possible, but he’s a businessperson first and foremost. I don’t see him doing anything that would be out of the realm of good business sense.
I want someone with vision, someone who can plan for contingencies. Someone who is willing to invest their money in the hopes of making this a championship franchise, and who will be looked upon as the gold standard by other club owners. I don’t want someone who will just throw money around willy-nilly.
by fuller over bryant on Oct 1, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this man wouldnt give
his former employees pension!!! what makes you think he’d buy Maggette’s contract???
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 2, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Maggette buyout was in response to dubzfan
who thinks that Ellison may be willing to buyout that contract. I disagreed with that. It doesn’t make good business sense. That was the point of my post.
by fuller over bryant on Oct 2, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
for someone
who has such a resounding portfolio as Mr. Ellison, it is considered a that owning a Professional Team is not the best investment.
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 2, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Skep.... from what I understand..
It’s not Ellison who is a major BBall fan, but one of his 2nd Lieutenants at Oracle….. I believe it was one of these guys that was behind the Oracle Arena sponsorship. Larry’s passion is boaty things!
Slightly OT…but Also… does anyone know why US Football, Basketball and Hockey teams do not allow corporate sponsorship on their jerseys????
GSOM Blog Beast!
by BritWarriorGSW on Oct 1, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
does anyone know why US Football, Basketball and Hockey teams do not allow corporate sponsorship on their jerseys????
They probably don’t want to dilute their brands? Who’d buy a jersey with a product they hate on it? Products come and go but the teams more or less remain constants.
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 1, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
that said, they do it (very successfully, i might add) in pretty much every soccer league in the world. just from personal knowledge, liverpool just got a 4-year deal with standard chartered bank for $140 mil. if it adds payroll and allows us to put the best possible product on the hardwood, i honestly wouldn’t be against it.
"Snow woulda had it!!!"
Has decided to put all his "In this thing" energy to being in the Shark Tank and the Big House.
by beat_la_25 on Oct 1, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But soccer is garbage. We should not use garbage as an example for ourselves.
by Missing Barry on Oct 1, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then what about NASCAR ;-)
This house is full of m, m, madness!
This house is full of m, m, mistakes!
by qin on Oct 1, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NASCAR is awesome.
Yeah, their headline series Winston Cup was named for the killer of millions of americans.
If you want to see the dumbing down of a sport just look at the nascar car sponsors over the years. in the 50’ s and 60’s it was auto related stuff like STP or Champion then it turned into things like Tide, Home Depot, etc. that have nothing to do with auto racing. Along with the switch in sponsors came a new type of crowd that had no true interest in the art of auto racing or real knowledge of what they were seeing but came because they thought it was the in thing to do, much like a red states version of Laker fans .
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 1, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah! Pizza, beer, and mutual funds
And budweiser sponsors football (the american kind), and they sponsor baseball, basketball, and everything else. That’s got tons to do with performance. It’s about target audience. It’s a well understood marketing fact that people who watch sports like beer (pretty much everyone likes beer), so it pays to advertise your beer at sports events.
It’s not the advertisers, it’s that you don’t watch Nascar. I’m sure every true Nascar fan could tell you why certain tires are better in more humid conditions. There are going to be no-nothing fans in every sport who’re just along for the ride, but don’t denegrate an entire sport just because you don’t understand it, that’s just ignorant.
I hate cigs as much as the next man, but I don’t smoke them, and my livelihood doesn’t depend on it. Clearly, Nascar fans believe otherwise (or Winston wouldn’t be advertising there).
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 1, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
people who watch sports like beer (pretty much everyone likes beer)
And at NASCAR, this is even a bigger thing. All NASCAR is is a big party. You tailgate all day long. Then you go into the race, and you can bring a cooler full of beer into the race with you (at least at the track I went to). Drinking beer is the primary focus of a NASCAR race…
by Missing Barry on Oct 1, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t denegrate an entire sport just because you don’t understand it, that’s just ignorant.
Haha, I understand nascar just fine, I raced for about 8 seasons, in fact for a couple of years when I was going to college my only income was nascar winnings so I had to tow a lot of miles and turn a lot of laps
In the old days the fans came for the race, they knew a lot about the cars and likely used the sponsors products in their own vehicles.
Now it’s more like a big old party with the race as an afterthought, much like the difference between watching championship football at GreenBay versus watching a superbowl at some randomly chosen sun belt city among a corporate crowd.
and who can make a connection between winning the race and HomeDepot? WTF, is that car built out of 2 by 4’s? Might as well just paint all the cars green and label them all “sponsored by money”?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 1, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's the GB vs. Sun Belt thing
It’s more about the corporatizing of everything.
And HD sponsoring nascar is simple: Nascar is the most popular sport in america. If you put your HD logo on the hood of a car, it gets seen by tons of people all the time. And if it’s on the car of a guy who’s gonna be in the lead a bunch, even more airtime.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 1, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought NASCAR was still 2nd to the NFL….
Might as well just paint all the cars green and label them all "sponsored by money"?
Yep, that’s how America works. Might as well get over it and stop blaming NASCAR for an issue that’s hardly a NASCAR issue.
Now it’s more like a big old party with the race as an afterthought
Which is awesome!
by Missing Barry on Oct 2, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Warriors are may favorite sports team, the Sharks are a verrrry close second
But Soccer >>>>> Basketball
by myk on Oct 1, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re into sissy little Euro trash flopping around everywhere kicking a ball because they haven’t yet realized we have opposable thumbs…sure.
by Missing Barry on Oct 1, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow all that hate for a sport that is by faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar the most popular
sport in the world
by buky on Oct 2, 2009 3:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a stupid argument. McDonald’s is popular in the world, too, that doesn’t make it good food. It’s a stupid comparison, I know, but the point is popularity is not an argument for something being good or bad.
by Missing Barry on Oct 2, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really quit simple
NASCAR is garbage.
This house is full of m, m, madness!
This house is full of m, m, mistakes!
by qin on Oct 2, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by garbage, you mean awesome, then sure. Not that basketball should follow NASCAR’s example, or anything, so I’m not really sure why we’re talking about it at all……
by Missing Barry on Oct 2, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like the concept of NASCAR
for some reason it hasnt caught on in so much on the west coast. I lived in Kentucky for three years and Its very much accepted
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by gogomaplata on Oct 2, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
for some reason it hasnt caught on in so much on the west coast.
Cause we got so many more interesting things to do. Back there the weather and culture is quite oppressive so nascar looks like relief compared to here where it looks kinda meh. Even when I was racing I’d sometimes chose to go surfing instead of tow over to the hot valley. Back there they don’t have the choice of Pt Reyes or talladega , in alabama it’s the track or the shack.
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 2, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
This whole thing about advertisments soccer and Nascar went on so long I totally forgot this was the post about Ellison buying our team.
Anyways, reg advertisements on Jerseys. By Skep
They probably don’t want to dilute their brands? Who’d buy a jersey with a product they hate on it? Products come and go but the teams more or less remain constants
+ 1
Reg soccer, by missing barry
That’s a stupid argument. McDonald’s is popular in the world, too, that doesn’t make it good food. It’s a stupid comparison, I know, but the point is popularity is not an argument for something being good or bad.
That’s a great argument and one that i will be using, well said.
Lastly, the last thing I would want to do is commit to giving anyone the boot before the start of the season. I think our roster looks very talented and deep, I want to see what we get before starting all new drama. We got enough of that with the media distorting peoples words on the first day of training camp.
by VERY VERY BUSY on Oct 2, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Er.....WOW...
I didnt expect to kick that one off!…lol
Oh and Barry…. All I will say is…. THE WORLD knows the game as FOOTBALL…the game played by kicking a ball with you FOOT!… ;)
American Handball has much to learn about generating money from football temas around the world…Unfortunately..thats why that bunch of “Northern Monkeys” Manchester United is the worlds most recognized sports brand in the world!
If the organisations in BBall had half a clue, they would realise that changing shirt every year is what generates the club the HUGE amount of money and if it is not a change in sponsor….its is a change in jersey design… Same could easily apply to Basketball, that way the fanbase that does not get season tickets, will still contribute to the club and then hopefully give the club the cash it needs to go hunt the better players…
WAIT A MINUTE………….
Shoot me now…. why am I giving the FO further reason to “procreate with our occular sockets” more than they already do!! Fans get ripped off enough on the gear as it is!!!
I’ll just quietly step off to the left here…..
GSOM Blog Beast!
by BritWarriorGSW on Oct 2, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
typos typos....proof read man...dammit
apologies for those above…
GSOM Blog Beast!
by BritWarriorGSW on Oct 2, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re into sissy little Euro trash flopping around everywhere
Haha yeah because nobody flops in the NBA
by Rob Kurz blocks Yao Ming on Oct 5, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe somebody could set up a sign up sheet on PetitionOnline?
I would do it myself, but I’m not very good with words and wouldn’t know how to draft a letter directed to Mr.Ellison, I would happily elect BritwarriorGSW to do this, he seems to be VERY good with words with all his awesome fanposts. I think having something on PetitionOnline would be much more beneficial and we could post it anywhere that is even remotely GSW related and would be able to get our message out there. Just my two cents, what do you guys think?
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Oct 1, 2009 11:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what do you guys think?
Who is oracles biggest competitor? Get them interested in the Warriors so Ellison has to compete to buy the team, these rich guys usually don’t want something unless they think someone else wants it too.
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 1, 2009 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Create a CO-OP?
Get everyone at GSoM together and start marketing to fans. Sell conditional* commitments to buy shares (that have privileges like reduced price tickets, etc.) Write bylaws that allow shareholders to vote in the managing general partner for terms of 4 years by shareholder majority, subject to repeal yearly by a 75% super-majority. If Ellison wants in, he buys a bunch of shares and basically gets the franchise at a reduced price, with conditions. We get an “owner” we can actually have an influence over and reduced ticket prices. There are probably enough Warrior fans out there to make this plan workable; you need some big investors, but season ticket holders are already paying hundreds to thousands of dollars each each year; if they can put that money down up front in a way that clearly shows their dissatisfaction with the current ownership while still providing them access to the entertainment they want, why wouldn’t they do that.
* conditional commitments in that the money is put in escrow and is fully – or at least 97% to cover costs – refundable if the group cannot buy the team.
Assuming a franchise value of $400 million, you’d need to sell 400 thousand commitments to shares at $1000.00 each. Some investors/fans would obviously buy more than one share.
As running an NBA franchise that competes regularly for a championship is not necessarily as profit making enterprise in the short run, especially if you have mortgaged some of your future revenue in order to buy the team, you have to:
1. raise enough extra money that you have an operating fund to work with.
2. have an additional means of generating revenue, perhaps by continuing to sell shares (however, this dilutes the value of current shares, making them less desirable. This is not such a big deal from an investment standpoint, as shares value increases as the franchises value increases, but there is a limit to how far the “perks” like reduced prices can be effectively extended.)
What do you think? Am I insane? far too speculative? asking Oakland to believe in something way too much like PSL’s for the Raiders? accidentally creating a Ponsi scheme? proposing something illegal?
by toddaverth on Oct 1, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conflicts of Interest:
Working for the team, having any financial interest in or direct association with another NBA team) voids shares voting rights while such conflicts exist and 4 years thereafter.
Governing Board: (amendment to previous proposal)
Shares give voting rights for seats on board of Directors, made up of 12 shareholders, which exists solely to select the Managing General Partner (hereafter referred to as MGP), who must also be a shareholder. The MGP is elected by majority vote of the board to a 4 year term, but may be deposed at any time by a 2/3 vote of the board of Directors. Directors serve 1 year terms and are voted in by shareholders who have vote eligible shares. Shareholders may only vote for up to 3 candidates for Directorships, regardless of the number of shares they own. Each vote eligible share counts as one vote. Shareholders can elect not to use a vote eligible share to vote for a candidate. Thus, a shareholder with 100 vote eligible shares can vote 33 for Candidate 1, 23 for Candidate 2, 40 for Candidate 3, while abstaining from voting with 4 shares should they choose to do so. This prevents 1 large shareholder from completely negating the voice of other, smaller shareholders.
Types of Shares:
Premium Shares:
Premium Shares are both Vote Eligible and Benefit shares. They may also receive any dividends paid out to Investment Shares. These are sold in limited quantity primarily to raise the initial investment necessary to purchase the team.
Vote Eligible Shares:
Vote Eligible Shares carry the right to vote for Directors on the Governing Board as described above.
Benefit Shares:
Benefit Shares carry the right to (20%) discounts on tickets, food, paraphernalia, and other events.
Investment Shares:
Investment Shares are strictly a silent ownership stake in the team. They may receive a dividend yearly and will receive a payout in the event of a purchase of the team.
All shares may be sold by their respective owners.
by toddaverth on Oct 1, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by warriorbum on Oct 1, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Um... that's annoying.
I haven’t been dissatisfied with anything Larry Riley has done so far, but really 9 lines of nothing but “We believe in Larry!” is ridiculous.
by toddaverth on Oct 1, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OBVIOUSLY
He’s saying he believes in Larry Ellison, since this post has to do with Mr.Ellison purchasing this team and not about our GM, Larry Riley…
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Oct 1, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sheepish
I can’t believe I didn’t pick up on that. Wow!
Repeating it so much is still annoying, but it makes more sense.
by toddaverth on Oct 1, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We Believe in Larry!!!!
and Curley, Moe and Shemp too?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 1, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont get how Larry Ellison would help us.
Chris Cohan hasn’t made any trades or signed any free agents. He just provides money.
Even if Larry Ellison does have more money, we’d have to convince him to go into the luxury tax to spend the sort of money to get people like Bosh over here. He doesn’t seem like a huge Warriors fan, or at least I haven’t heard anything to suggest that.
A change of owner isn’t really going to convince FA’s that the culture of losing bball is changing here in the bay. Plus with the salary cap decreasing in worth each of the next few years, we would absolutely have to go into the luxury tax to get top FA’s. Why is Ellison more willing to do that than Cohan?
by myk on Oct 1, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Changing Owners usually changes everything down the ladder
If he’s a casual fan like many of us, he can probably see the defunctness that is the Warriors. And if he were to buy this franchise, he would probably want to rid the entire image of the Cohan reign of terror and at the top of his firing list will probably be Rowell, and down the ladder he shall go, maybe even with Don Nelson and replacing him with Keith Smart, which I would LOVE, by the way. And he would also hire a smart, basketball minded person to be president of this franchise, to be the GM, and so on, and so on…
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
by JustSomeName on Oct 1, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me, on the other side of that hill, the grass is wayyyyyyy greener. Like day-glo.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 1, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me, the guy on the other side of that hill doesn't think your grass is so green.
Chris Cohan and Robert Rowell? Oh no hide the children!
by Nuck Chorris on Oct 2, 2009 3:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not about spending more money. It’s about running an organization the way it’s supposed to be run. Cohan has ostracized many former business friends and associates, he runs a dysfunctional organization, has failed in every hiring decision he’s ever made for the Warriors…a new owner changes how the entire organization functions. In our case, anything is better than Cohan simply by default.
by Missing Barry on Oct 1, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm....
Not everybody would be better than Cohan. I doubt Bob Johnson would do a better job. And I’ve had bosses in the past who have been worse at running a business…
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 1, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t know about that. Can you name a single more inept sports owner in any sport? I truly believe we have the worst owner in all of sports….
by Missing Barry on Oct 2, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about that. Cohan’s certainly bad, but Michael Heisley in Memphis strikes me as worse, and I don’t know that Sterling’s any better; while you’re of course right that Al Davis had a great run, current Al Davis is pretty horrible.
While the Warriors have been quite bad under Cohan, some things have gone right… they’ve been marketed quite well, attendance has stayed high, the arena re-modeling was successful, stuff like that. Cohan has been willing to spend… there just haven’t been superstars to spend on. And while that’s partly the team’s fault (Cohan siding with Nellie over Webber, trading Vince for Antawn), let’s not forget: in fourteen years in the lottery, several of them high in the lottery, we’ve hit hit twice, once in a year where the top-ranked player turned out not to be an impact guy, once in a year when the consensus third-best player was Mike Dunleavy. (If you’re so inclined, you can ding the team for not taking McDyess or Stackhouse over Joe, but just about nobody would’ve taken KG number one, given the uncertainty at the time.) You can’t discount luck in the NBA — the main reason the Cavs and Magic are elite teams is that some balls bounced their way. Cohan’s Warriors have been unlucky, in addition to bad.
He’s a very, very bad owner. These years in the wilderness have been excruciating, the front office dysfunction is embarrassing, and the way Mullin got forced out was gross. But let’s not overstate the case. Cohan is not a historically bad sports owner. He’s just one of the many who had no idea what they were doing.
by onlxn on Oct 5, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he would also hire a smart, basketball minded person to be president of this franchise,
Maybe he could hire Mark Cuban to run the team for him?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 1, 2009 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry Ellison is a proven Winner!!!!
He would not accept anything less than a highly competitive team…
He would spend the money to bring in new talent and to keep whatever talent we can cultivate…
It would then become personal and he would be more than a casual fan!!!!!
Please Mr. Ellison buy our lowly team and make them a contender….
You already have a loyal fan base.
by warriorbum on Oct 1, 2009 6:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It is already persona. Ellison has expressed his discontent that does not have an NBA team. “I’ve been trying to buy a basketball team, but they won’t sell me anything,”
The implication being that he has tried with multiple franchises. Either other owners are scared and David Stern has no balls (yet he’s gone international in approving sales to that Russian dude and all kinds of international owners). Obviously he is trying to capitalize on “international appeal” rather than home grown interests; which relatively speaking have become worth less and less in comparison to the NBA’s involvement in Asia and Europe.
WTF Don Bags Sterling! I know Rowell and Cohan are considered “revolutionary businessmen for difficult times” (aka cut costs and market up the wazoo), but your fifth largest market is not nearly tapping it’s potential in the “Collective.”
That is unless you are holding out because you owe Cohan and Rowell their turn….
Where’s our Pau Gasol/Kevin Garnett/Shaq!
The Bay Area hemorrhaging potential as we speak. Either push him out or put Cohan up like you did with Boston or Cleveland with their COTY’s that could trip and fall into a win.
In original NBA jam fashion: BOOM SHAKALAKA!
Chris Cohan and Robert Rowell? Oh no hide the children!
by Nuck Chorris on Oct 2, 2009 3:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I’ve been trying to buy a basketball team, but they won’t sell me anything,"
If he really wants a team why doesn’t he put together a new sonics team? Starting from scratch would be more fun it seems anyway?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 2, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its really fun when you have the expansion draft
and you’re selling your fans hamid haddadi and nate robinson will lead u to the playoffs
by tafkasam on Oct 2, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Note to self: don’t wake up in the middle of the night and start posting on the boards.
Chris Cohan and Robert Rowell? Oh no hide the children!
by Nuck Chorris on Oct 2, 2009 3:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry Ellison is not an owner you want... he is a Business Nazi!!!
If you know anything of Ellison, you would know how deceitful this man is. He has a history of low balling his own Employees for his own advantage. I ask GSOM’ers not to make a push for this man. The man has an army of lawyers to protect him, he doesnt need our support. Cohen may not be much better, but Mr. Ellison is not the answer. This man has put many of his Co-workers jobless without remorse! Though he is very successful, his accomplishments has come at the price of many others.
There is a reason that the NBA wont sell to this man. Shoot, they sold the NETS to a Russian for crying out loud!!!! Larry Ellison would be the equivalent of Al Davis if he were to own the Golden State Warriors. I wouldnt be surprised if he were to own the team, he would relocate. Im sure Don Nelson, is in Cohen’s ear as well, along with many others about not selling the team…. Im telling you GSOM, YOU DONT WANT LARRY ELLISON!!!!
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 2, 2009 10:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You said this already, just scroll up. I’m thinking you may be a disgruntled worker?
This house is full of m, m, madness!
This house is full of m, m, mistakes!
by qin on Oct 2, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no...
just trying to educate these starving for new owner fans… thats all
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 2, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm right there with you
Most people see Cohan as a punch in the face so they’ll do anything to avoid it. What they don’t realize is if they don’t keep their guard up, they’ll get a kick in the nuts if the wrong person buys the team.
by VERY VERY BUSY on Oct 2, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're 100% correct
But 1 thing he is that Cohan isnt is MOTIVATEd. Money won’t stop Ellison from trying to win. He’ll give max contracts. He wouldn’t be in it for money (no good nba owner is… and even if you are, winning expands your value more than year to year profits, ask mark cuban).
The downside is he will probably be trigger happy in firings etc. But Cohan may be the worst owner in nba
by tafkasam on Oct 2, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don’t get that reasoning behind that. What’s to say Cohan isn’t “Motivated?” Or what’s to say Ellison will be anymore motivated than Cohan? I’m not saying Cohan is the answer, or that I know who is, but I don’t want to jump in bed with the first chick at the bar who looks at me.
Also max contracts have been one of the biggest problems with the Warriors. JRich, Murphy, Dunleavy, Maggette, Foyle signing Jackson when we didn’t have to. Spending money has not been the problem. I can’t think of a player we could have gotten where money got in the way. The last thing we want is a bunch of players with max contracts.
WINNING cures everything and this season I think we have the capability to win a lot of games. Honestly I see Mullin as the big Negative Nancy for the Warriors the past couple of years and now he’s gone. I’m more than happy to just let the year go by with Mullin gone and see what we get.
by VERY VERY BUSY on Oct 2, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to jump in bed with the first chick at the bar who looks at me.
I’m not sure you understand this bar scene thing?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 2, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It all comes down to standards. If you havne’t gotten laid (made the playoffs) in a long time, you might take the first hephyr (Baron Davis after a contract year) that walks through the door. But in the morning you’ll wake with a pounding headache (17 win season), roll over and come face to face with fear and disgust in both yourself and your desicions (LA Clippers fans). But hey at least you got laid right???
by VERY VERY BUSY on Oct 2, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you havne’t gotten laid (made the playoffs) in a long time, you might take the first hephyr (Baron Davis after a contract year) that walks through the door. But in the morning you’ll wake with a pounding headache
I see the problem, you need to learn to compartmentalize better. Lay=good, regret=bad. You eat,dump,eat,dump,etc. You don’t dwell one one while doing the other?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 2, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing to remember ...
… a lot of people evaluate behavior with the benefit of hindsight, by results.
eg, “The Warriors have been a losing franchise, therefore the ownership must suck.”
Now, it’s true that Cohan has made some dumb decisions recently, but when evaluating an owner you want to look at their process, not their results. Because of the high degree of uncertainty, a good process can have bad results.
What I want from an owner is the following:
1) He signs the checks his basketball people want.
(After a rookie slipup, Cohan has been good here).
2) He fires people when they deserve to be fired.
(Cohan has been so-so here, but not terrible).
3) He hires good basketball people.
(Cohan fails here, putting Rowell in charge).
4) He lets his good basketball people do their jobs.
(Cohan fails here, too, letting Rowell undercut Mullin.)
by Ronaldinho on Oct 2, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've defended Cohan over the years ...
… as being a victim of bad luck, typical rookie mistakes, and reasonable choices that didn’t work out. (Not wanting to rehash, but as an example of each: getting the first pick in a year when the concensus #1 pick was Joe Smith, the Webber fiasco, and Twarzick – who proved to be a horrible GM with was a reasonable hire if you don’t have the gift of foresight.)
That ended forever with me with the recent fiasco, with the classless way they forced out Mullin, with the way Rowell has taken over the organization and demolished it. Cohan has stood by while his buddy has done tremendous damage to the franchise.
The situation is so bad, quite frankly, that it’s hard to imagine how it could be any worse unless we WERE dealing with Al Davis today.
Remember that micromanaging owners are not always a bad thing. Jerry Jones made some extremely unpopular moves, no doubt, but those moves brought the team three championships. He probably would have won more if he was able to let go of his micromanaging … but an inactive owner doesn’t fire Tom Landry in Dallas. Mark Cuban is almost certainly a net positive for the Mavs, who would have won a championship under him if the officiating was fair in the series against the Heat.
The truth is that even if Ellison proves to be a below average owner, and has a couple of rookie mistakes in him, he’s still going to be a substantial improvement over Cohan.
by Ronaldinho on Oct 2, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The truth is that even if Ellison proves to be a below average owner, and has a couple of rookie mistakes in him, he’s still going to be a substantial improvement over Cohan.
Unless he thinks he can win games with software instead of hardware?
Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this crescent in the sky
by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 2, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Mikhail Prokhorov movement
if Mikhail Prokhorov’s deal with the nets dont go through, he should buy the warriors!! imagine an owner that don’t care about going over the salary cap? the guy spends $10mill on a 2 week vacation!
by Manute Said So on Oct 2, 2009 1:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
COULD NOT LOG ON TO SIGN LETTER
I was not able to log on to sign your letter to Mr. Ellison.If you want a MUCH bigger response-DON’T REQUIRE A LOG IN OR REGISTRATION!
Please help us Mr. Ellison, the Warriors and their fans need your help.Return us to some respectability-NOT THE NEW CLIPPERS ! WE DESERVE MORE ! WE WANT “WE BELIEVE” BACK IN THE BAY !!!!!!!!!!
Dr. Jeff
by JEFFSJAZZ on Oct 3, 2009 2:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Registration gives more credibility
If registration was not required then one person could just sit there and post a million times pretending to be different people which would make it much less credible. Also, if registration wasn’t required, the username might just show up as “guest1” “guest2” etc
No registration would result in more, but less credible support.
by G-State on Oct 3, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring it on
I can’t believe that there are so many posts AGAINST Larry Ellison purchasing the Warriors franchise from Chris Cohan.
Cohan is a bad owner, period. Any scenario that has him sell the team is a good scenario.
Come on people – it’s been a long slog through the desert, we need some manna to fall from heaven.
Why is Ellison worse than a Mark Cuban? Look what he has done with his Sailing team – he spends huge bundles of money on that hobby and it doesn’t really even return any significant profit that I can see.
With the Warriors – he already has a rabid fan base just dying to fill the Oracle Arena, this would be a toy that he could dump tons on….Even if he lost money, he needs tax write offs anyway…..
As I said in my subject header….Bring it on!!
by Bubba Watson on Oct 3, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bring it on
I can’t believe that there are so many posts AGAINST Larry Ellison purchasing the Warriors franchise from Chris Cohan.
Cohan is a bad owner, period. Any scenario that has him sell the team is a good scenario.
Come on people – it’s been a long slog through the desert, we need some manna to fall from heaven.
Why is Ellison worse than a Mark Cuban? Look what he has done with his Sailing team – he spends huge bundles of money on that hobby and it doesn’t really even return any significant profit that I can see.
With the Warriors – he already has a rabid fan base just dying to fill the Oracle Arena, this would be a toy that he could dump tons on….Even if he lost money, he needs tax write offs anyway…..
As I said in my subject header….Bring it on!!
by Bubba Watson on Oct 3, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so what im understanding is
that GSOM could care less who the owner is, as long it isnt Cohan?
Can Rowell remain in his position? How about Riley and Nellie? Do they keep their positions as well?
After changing of the owners, who do you guys suggest? IMO, changing Cohan isnt going to change the mindset of this team!
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2009 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Craigslist Posting: WANTED NEW OWNER
must be willing to spend money on rebuilding young NBA team
Deal with disgruntled employee’s
no experience needed
….also looking for Mascot as well
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
I don’t even think I’ll be able to explain how happy I would be if we had an owner who actually wanted the Warriors to succeed. I read something that said Ellison would consider building a new arena in downtown SF. That would just be amazing, but believe it or not, hardly necessary. The Warriors have an extremely loyal fanbase, we all know that, we just need an owner who is not an idiot and actually cares that the team does well. Oh, and who doesn’t think he is a basketball executive (see Chris Cohan signing Stephen Jackson).
We can only hope that someone saves us and actually gives the fans something worthwhile to cheer for. I mean, we’re dumb enough to cheer either way, but imagine if there was something WORTH cheering for (see Roaracle arena in 2007 Playoffs).
by Run Dubz on Oct 12, 2009 12:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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