Try to think of what he is, he is being paid 11 mil. that’s not elite money that’s second tier money which he has the capability of being. Also consider it’s going to be 11 a year for next 5 years… meaning if he improves his game we don’t have to pay him more for a while. All players in that making lets say 10 thru 12 are capable of players but all have some flaw in there game.

When you look at monta, he fits that category. He has the ability to take a game over offensively, is an above average rebounder for his size and very scrappy on loose balls, winning us a few more possessions a game we wouldnt have w/o him.

 If monta can become that 07-08 who we signed to the contract, he’s more than worth it. you don’t find that kind of offensive efficiency very often in a guard.

If he had true PG vision or was 6-6 and a true SG he’d be making near max money, but he doesn’t which is why he isn’t in the range of cp3, lebron, kobe in terms of contracts..

I still think monta is a type of player who can be a key piece in a deep playoff team, however he does need to be surrounded by right type of player to make the team truly function. He needs a tall ball-handler/decision maker to take pressure off him. I bet cleveland for ex. would be better off w/ monta with lebron instead of mo williams. Or if he played next to a two like manu who makes alot of decisions.

And of course the ideal situation is next to a younger jason kidd or Deron williams bigger PGs who can guard 2s.

He isnt untradeable, but he is our best player, and has second highest upside behind AR4

First thanks to all those above who stepped up to back Monta and argue against the ludicrous (sp?.) idea that Ws should trade him.

I keep hearing Nellie doesn’t like Monta (Kawakami on Barbieri); if Monta’s your best player your team’s not very good (Steinmetz); one GSOMer posted that we should trade Monta for Kirk Heinrich!!!???

Here’s why I think trading Monta makes no sense (unless you get an equally talented young player).

Wtih Monta and AR we have two young athletic freaks that everyone in the NBA wants to watch. We have a pretty good young center and some other decent pieces.

Without Monta we’re just rebuilding again.

If Nellie doesn’t want to coach this team bc Monta is too small to play 2 or Andris doesn’t have an offensive game or whatever get someone in here who wants to. (never happen I know)

Even if Monta can’t play point it’s not the worst thing in the world to have two offensively gifted six foot three guards who will causes defenses all sorts of problems. Its not like we’re asking Nellie to start freakin Earl Boykins and Keith Jennings in the backcourt.

To win in the NBA you need star type players. Players that other teams need to adjust their defenses around. The Warriors have one of these guys in Monta. Hopefully AR will be the second. If you trade Monta you go straight back into rebuilding mode. And it’s long-term rebuilding. This idea of trading Monta and seeing what the young talent can do with a point guard is insane. Why? Monta IS the young talent (along with AR and maybe Curry WHO IS A POINT GUARD) I’m sorry but Morrow, Buike, Wright might be decent players but none of those guys is going to be a star. Frankly Curry probably won’t either. He’s a good seventh pick in a relatively weak draft- great shot good feel for the game questionable athletic ability. Curry pretty much has to play point to succeed. MOnta we already know can play shooting guard.

Hope that’s somewhat coherent. Just tired of the Monta trade talk. Let’s see what the guy can do.

but he may not end up as the focal point of the offense because Randolph has all the tools to be a bigger threat. I think he can learn the point, but only when he matures and his accident proves that he hasn’t made that jump from thinking for himself to taking care of his team. He never had to be in that position with Davis and Jackson there, but he had an opportunity and I’m glad to see the growing pains. I say give him full ownership of the point this season and let him hit rock bottom if it comes to it. Then, let him stew in it until he’s just craving to work on his game.

Next season forecast: Unfortunately, a lot more growing pains.

“The point is that with all the other talent we have”- (Don’t know how to make those blue borders)

Other than Monta, AR is the only other all-star level talent we (pretty much) know we have. You can’t win with only one really good guy. That’s why we need Monta to be competitive this year and in the near future. What talent are you talking about? Curry might be good but we really don’t know at this point.

“Monta is the most likely player on our team to cause ongoing failure.”

Why do you think this?

No team wins a championship without 2 or 3 all-stars regardless of whether they have a point guard or not. That’s why you don’t give up the guys you have that have a chance to be all-stars. Oh sh*t, Hack just stole my thunder.

I think Monta is already as good as Harris/Parker. (and those guys are no joke) Wait til the season starts. He’ll be right there. and he might just be better.

I think the loco sex would make it worth it. You say she looks totally nuts behind closed doors like its a negative thing.

I do worry about Monta’s defense. We’re not a team that can survive listless defense from our point guard.. if Monta doesn’t exert energy on that end, we’ll have a problem, and trading him might not be the worst idea.

Offensively, I don’t worry too much. We were a decently effective offensive team last season, and moreso when Monta was on the floor. He’ll never be an 8-assist-per-game guy, but I’m not convinced that we need one of those. We have a number of efficient, self-sustaining scorers, Monta being one of them. If he plays defense, he’ll do just fine, and we probably will too.