The Great Mavs Debate: Warriors Trade? [Hoopsworld]

Two points caught my eye:
* "This is not the first time he's [Stephen Jackson] asked for a trade, and the Warriors seem to be unwilling to entertain the idea, but if they wanted to trade him there are plenty of teams who would be interested. He'd be an excellent fit in Dallas, but the Mavs would almost certainly have to send Josh Howard to Oakland to make that work and it might be a lateral move."

* "Sources close to the situation in Oakland told HOOPSWORLD recently that there's little chance the Warriors move Ellis, and even less of a chance that they work a deal with Dallas. That being said, they drafted a starting point guard and traded Jamal Crawford in a deal that brought back two reserves in Acie Law and Speedy Claxton. How long will Ellis actually be a Warrior? Odds are, not very long."

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The second point

Does that person really believe that the Warriors brought in Claxton and Law to replace Monta??

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by disguy on Sep 5, 2009 8:07 PM PDT reply actions

we also got devean george, azubuike must be on his way out too.

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Sep 5, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Othella Hunter was on our summer league team.

Good bye Randolph an Biedrins.

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "Your a rookie"

by dubzfan on Sep 5, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Considering there attitudes and what Jackson has recently said,

who would you guys rather have? Howard or Jackson?

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "Your a rookie"

by dubzfan on Sep 5, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions

I would rather have Howard regardless of attitude etc. We are a rebuilding team. We don’t need an old man with a bad contract. As much as I like Jack, it would benefit him, another team, and the warriors if he was traded. An expiring contract can help us get someone young and more useful to be a part of our team.

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by LostHawkGSW on Sep 5, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions

i agree

A disgruntled Jackson is not worth a motivated Howard who is on his last year of his contract. Regardless if some of you don’t believe what those guys were saying about Monte, it does make sense that Nellie doesn’t believe in Ellis running the Point position. Why would he draft Curry unless they want him to become another B Wright and rot in the bench which I highly doubt. I believe Curry or Watson will be our starting PG. As far as Ellis goes, like they said, his basketball IQ to run the point is limited which was emphasized by many in the media. Whats weird about all this is that I don’t see Ellis as a good fit for Dallas. They already got Jason Terry, Jason Kidd and Barea who shown flashes along with the new rookie PG from France. Where would Ellis play if traded to Dallas?

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by puffylove on Sep 5, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Howard. I don’t like him, but he’s younger with a better contract and plays bigger.

Thing A

by sam23 on Sep 5, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions

How about none of them!

I can’t stand either of them.
One is a pothead that dissed the Nation Anthem
and the other one…Palace of Auburn Hills,no more need be said.

I’d take Al Thorton over any of them.

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by Curry on Sep 5, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Really?

I think Thornton is just another Maggette. I’d take Iggy over all of them (I wish they would take Jackson and CJ for him). I honestly don’t see another small forward out there that we can get for him. Howard is a solid fit.

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "Your a rookie"

by dubzfan on Sep 5, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh god he is...look

[signed 2007-2008]Rookie contract
37 minutes
Al Thorton-pt 16.8 rb5.2 ast1.5
44.6% shooting,25%.3 3pt%,75.4%ft,1.8to,
0.8 stl and 0.9blk

compared to

[signed 2008-2009]5 years $50 million
31 minutes
Corey Maggette- 18.6pts 5.5reb 1.8ast
46% shooting,25.3% 3pt,82.4ft,2.4 TO,
0.9 stl and 0.2 blks

while Andre Iguodala
[signed 2007-2008]6years $80 million
40 minutes
18.8pts 5.7reb Ast 5.3ast
47.3% shooting,30.7%3pt,72.4ft%,2.7TO,
1.6stl and 0.4blks

I really don’t know why I did this,but Thorton and Maggette is basically the same player.

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by Curry on Sep 6, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions

One is a pothead that dissed the Nation Anthem

Given the state of the govt. at the time JHo shoulda been appointed president.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Sep 6, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions

Re: Dissing the National Anthem

Politics aside, the Star Spangled Banner is a crappy song. It’s monumentally bad. It’s may be the only song worse than “Happy Birthday”.

Have you ever tried to sing it? You’d better start out real low because it will put your balls in a vice before it’s over. That thing just gets higher and higher until your nuts retract into your pelvis. No joke, that song may be the worst song ever written. Pot’s good though.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Sep 6, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

it's about respect.

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by Curry on Sep 6, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Could be nothing could be something

HUGE. I mean, why else would Nellie be going to the Big D this week? It’s surely not for the BBQ.

Warriors
Terry
Howard
Jawai
Bucker

Mavs
Ellis
Maggette
Wright
Law

by miguelito on Sep 6, 2009 7:22 AM PDT reply actions

Re: why else would Nellie be going to the Big D this week? It’s surely not for the BBQ.

Not a good sign. The last time Nelson went out of town for some BBQ he ended up dragging the corpse of Chris Webber back with him.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Sep 6, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I doubt the warriors move ellis without getting some big name

Fans would revolt and that would hurt the $$$.

by mosdl on Sep 6, 2009 9:38 AM PDT reply actions

People still read

Stuff on Hoopsworld? Wow thats shocking, I thought people gave up on that place years ago.

by jpgarfunkle on Sep 6, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions

Anyone read the user comments and the Dallasbasketball.com rebuttal.

All kinds of strange . . .

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Sep 6, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions

Dallas Basketball Com

I don’t know what’s going on with the Mavs, but I do know the Dallas Basketball Com guy has a better track record on what’s going on with Nellie than any Bay Area writer. Reading a bit of him reminds me of how much more balanced the coverage of Nellie was in Dallas and in Milwaukee as well. I think it’s a little sad Nellie came back to the Bay to get his legs chewed off by the likes of TK and others. “Stayed in Mississippi and played too long.” I hope there is still some happy ending for him there, but it doesn’t seem to be a happy ending town.

by Marques8 on Sep 7, 2009 9:35 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

What are you talking about? As a Mavs fan, we all know Stephen Jackson won’t fit in Dallas, one we’re not giving up Howard for him. We can get better value than that. He would involve Damp+Greg+something to that nature. Jackson’s a great player, but I don’t see him fitting in the Mavs system.

by Why on Sep 10, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions