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RECAP: Warriors 118, Nuggets 123 (OT) – Never a Dull Moment

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I'll be honest, this is not what I expected. I thought Denver would come into Oakland and put the Warriors away by the start of the 4th quarter. There's really not a whole lot I think the Warriors did wrong tonight. They played about as well as anyone could expect. The Nuggets just made more plays in the end than they did.

The one thing that I believe was the difference in the game was the rebounding. For about 3.75 quarters, the Warriors were right there with the Nuggets in the rebounding department. But in those last couple minutes of regulation and overtime, the Nuggets big men were all over the boards for second chance points and extended possessions. There were a couple key possessions that the Warriors played good D and forced a Denver miss, only to not box out and give up an easy putback. Othertimes, the Nuggets were just able to keep their possession alive by tapping the rebound back out of the key to the guards. The Warriors either got tired and didn't have the legs or were just not quite good enough to get the board. More than anything else, the rebounding or lack thereof became the Warriors reason for losing.

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A Warriors-Nuggets game would not be complete without some controversial calls at the end of regulation and in OT. This isn't to say that the controversial calls are what caused the Warriors to lose, rather that referees make or miss some calls that even I can see. Some controversial calls:

  • The non-call on Anthony Tolliver as he took a last second shot in regulation from 42 feet. Melo seemed to catch his arm as Tolliver was shooting the ball lunging forward. That's probably why the ball only went 20 feet.
  • The jump ball violation on Carmelo. Supposedly he jumped and hit the ball to quickly. Didn't look like it to me in the replay though. Refs said he did, Warriors get the ball.
  • Nene grabbing Monta before the ball was inbounded in the final minute of OT. No call was made. It would have been an automatic 2 shots (and the ball?). It nearly cost a turnover since Monta had to hustle to track down the ball.

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1) Very good defense on Carmelo
Whether it was Cartier Martin, Devean George, Corey Maggette, or the help defenders the Warriors defenders really bothered Carmelo tonight. He shot just 7-22 from the field (9-11 from the line) for 23 points to go with 5 turnovers. They got in his face, challenged every shot, and when he posted up, they were occasionally able to push him out farther from the basket than he wanted. The one memorable play was the block in the final minute of the game. Billups ran a pick and roll with Melo who found himself with a lane to the hoop. Biedrins came over to help, timed his jump perfectly, got all ball and forced a jump ball. It was beautiful.

Furthermore, it's great to see the Warriors hustling and working hard on defense. Maggette had stepped up his intensity, but the additions of the D-Leaguers, Martin and Tolliver, has really given the Warriors more life on defense and rebounding. Even though they're not the most skilled offensive players, they're doing whatever they can to make name for themselves in the league by playing solid defense and hustling every play. It's such a contrast to what we saw earlier in the season. Even though the results may be no different, it's a different brand of ball and a more entertaining game.

 


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2) Monta Matching Billups, Billups Matching Monta
Both guards had excellent games, and it was so much fun to watch them both go back and forth. The Warriors didn't have an answer for Billups as he was able to get in the lane, run the pick and roll effectively, and also connect a ridiculous 67% of the time from 3. I think Billups got the better of the matchup.

Billups: 38 minutes, 37 points, 11-19 fg's, 6-9 3pt, 9-11 ft, 8 rebs, 8 assists
Ellis: 53 minutes, 39 points, 12-28 fg's, 3-7 3pt, 12-16 ft, 6 rebs, 10 assists

Both guards hit some huge shots for their teams. Monta hit a couple 3's in clutch situations - one off of a drawn up out of bounds play and another in OT. Those two shots are not how we expect Monta to score. Usually it's the mid-range pullup or the acrobatic drives to the hole. The cold blooded 3's are new. Maybe he got lucky and hit them, or maybe he's starting to build his confidence for hitting those shots.

As good as Monta was, Billups was even better in the end. His 3's generally halted any thoughts of a big Warrior run. He hit a couple in regulation and overtime that he made look effortless and as if he didn't feel any sense of pressure due to the situation. Calm, cool, and collected. Add in his massive scoring output in the 4th and OT and you have an amazing performance.

 

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This one is tough. Corey Maggette or Monta Ellis? Corey has the more efficient scoring, but Monta hit 2 big big 3's in clutch situations. I've been flip flopping on this one for the last 15 minutes. I'm going with Corey Maggette. He was pretty clutch in the 4th with his drives to the hoop and free throws to go with his stellar stat line.

40 minutes, 33 points, 10-18 fg, 12-12 ft, 1-3 3pt, 9 rebs, 6 assists

 


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Who is your Warrior Wonder?
Monta Ellis: 53 min, 39 pts, 12-28 fg's, 3-7 3pt, 12-16 ft, 6 rebs, 10 asts
413 votes
Corey Maggette: 40 min, 33 pts, 10-18 fg, 12-12 ft, 1-3 3pt, 9 rebs, 6 asts
351 votes

764 votes | Poll has closed

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Can’t believe Maggette still managed to go 10-18 from the field after all those misses in the 1st quarter, seemed like he was about to cool down, but low and behold, he comes through yet again with a great game.

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Jan 21, 2010 9:29 AM PST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing...

I really dreaded Corey’s play in the beginning of the season and wanted him traded (I still kinna do) but if he keeps it up the way he has been recently, I’m will completely change my mind. He’s starting to be more choosey with hit shots thus becoming more consistant.

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by JonDoe on Jan 21, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

And how did Devean George, DEVEAN GEORGE! manage 40 minutes in this game? You know your team has lots of injuries if Devean George is playing more than 20 minutes a game…

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Jan 21, 2010 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

Devean George was a beast! This game alone was worth the Belinelli trade (that is how we got him, right?) I love how he laughs like he got away with something every time he reaches and swats the ball away without getting a foul called. Veteran voodoo at it’s finest.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Jan 21, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

The trio of George, Martin, and Maggs really seemed to give Melo fits. Yes George is old and waaaaay over the hill, but looks like he still knows how to play the refs hahaha.

I dunno if it made the belli trade worth it, as we are in dire need of guard depth, but it was nice to see signs of life from good ole’ George.

So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison

by Badly Browned on Jan 21, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

GEORGE = crafty veteran

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by JonDoe on Jan 21, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Moreover….

I was going to create a Fanpost but figured I would just ask it here:

Can Caron Butler be had for expiring contracts? Everyone knows Washington is blowing it up. He seems like he would make a nice addition to our backcourt given his size, physical defense, ballhandling, excellence on the fastbreak, and veteran experience. It would allow us to bring Curry off the bench and would do away with the ridiculously small 3 guard rotation (ME8, Curry, CJ) that seems destined to end badly. His contract is reasonable and he only has 2 more years left. So I propose Raja and Speedy for Butler and a fill-in. Would the Wizards do it? Would you?

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Jan 21, 2010 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

Why?

When we have a more efficient version of Butler in Maggette?

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Jan 21, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

They look the same but they really play very different games. Maggs is a far better pure scorer. Butler is a better ball handler and offensive initiator, and a MUCH better defender. He is also better suited to be an offguard, while Maggs is clearly a SF.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Jan 21, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

It took me a while

These last few games seemed so pointless, watching the development of D League players who most likely wouldn’t even be here in a few weeks or months. But now this crazy beast has taken on a life of its own and we are once again the proud owners of one of the most bizarre and interesting story lines in all sports.

I think we should do something like give away all our future draft picks for the sole right to call up undrafted players and D League standouts.

by whoarethewarriors on Jan 21, 2010 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

I would much rather have the rights to the #1 DLeaguer every year than have a pick outside the top 5 in the draft. They cost less, are more experienced, and work harder on the court.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Jan 21, 2010 10:08 AM PST reply actions  

Then we could pontentially miss out on the next big name. Lots of pros and cons on both sides, but I wouldn’t mind doing this if the draft is looking rather bleak. But even in a “weak” draft, there are always a few players that come out big and we could be potentially missing out on those names, so who knows…

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Jan 21, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Monta Matching Billups, Billups Matching Monta?!?

Billups: 38 minutes, 37 points, 11-19 fg’s, 6-9 3pt, 9-11 ft, 8 rebs, 8 assists
Ellis: 53 minutes, 39 points, 12-28 fg’s, 3-7 3pt, 12-16 ft, 6 rebs, 10 assists

Only in Warriorland are these two lines equal. Ellis used 9 more possession to get his points. He had two fewer boards (“only two boards” … no, he had 25% fewer boards), and, of course, left out of those lines, an extra turnover.

(The number of possessions used disparity is probably even bigger, as Ellis shot more FTs.)

Overall you’re probably talking more than 12 more possessions. NBA teams average about a point per possesion, and Monta did score two more points, but even still you’re talking about 10 points or so worth of shots which Monta missed in a game which went to OT.

by Ronaldinho on Jan 21, 2010 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

Boo Hoo dude, stop the Monta hating already. We know he is far from a perfect player, but the fact that he even came close to matching Billups’ line while 1. Not having Carmelo to pass to and 2. Playing the entire game, is pretty impressive.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Jan 21, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair

Monta’s sidekick shot 10-18, while Billups’ sidekick shot 7-22. Looks like Monta set up Corey and brought out his A-game a lot better than Billups did.

We gotta ban stats on this site, man. People care about them way too much. Forget efficiency, per36s, etc. etc…..just watch the game and see who’s making us a better team, giving us a chance to win. Billups undoubtedly had the better night tonight, but it was a darned good match-up, of two guys who at times single-handedly kept their teams in the ballgame.

by bradyk2 on Jan 21, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

amen.

these number crunchers are depressing man. last night at the game i saw a lot of heart from our team, that isnt listed on the stats sheet.

There's always to Morrow.

by warriors! on Jan 21, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

i think a combination of both would be great. wins can be obtained through a healthier team or a better front office. heart can’t be taught. take it for what it is, but supporting a team isn’t about wins alone (especially this team for this season) its about liking/respecting who’s trying to get you those wins.

There's always to Morrow.

by warriors! on Jan 21, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You...

have clearly learned nothing from the movie Space Jam. The Monstars only learned the true value of heart after a crushing defeat by Michael Jordan and a ragtag group of underdogs. A team that racks up bloodless wins can clearly be taught the meaning of heart.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm just confused

as to why there’s a debate over my appreciation of the effort given by my favorite basketball team. i mean the warriors, not the monstars.

There's always to Morrow.

by warriors! on Jan 21, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

as to why there’s a debate over my appreciation of the effort given by my favorite basketball team.

cause high effort is a negative. They gotta work their butz off to be almost competent ?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 21, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

they have to work their "butz" off

because they only have four starters.

as far as “high effort being a negative” reread that…that’s just an unheard of belief. but seeing as how we are warrior fans, i guess believing in unheard of things is our m.o.

There's always to Morrow.

by warriors! on Jan 21, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

uh

Dude, whatever, I bet you love the Monstars.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

i cried when the monstars lost to those overpaid, NBA crybabies. those guys always get the glory…

heart of a champion, will of the warrior.

by cap'n hack on Jan 21, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Nothing like getting worked in a game of B-ball by Bill Murray.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t you rather have wins that a losing team with “heart?”

I am actually not sure. I know that I would take losing in the second round to Utah every year for eternity over being a San Antonio fan if I got to watch the 2007 Warriors.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Jan 22, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, if you believe Denver fans, the refs had eight or nine no-calls for Carmelo. Apparently the whole team should have fouled out.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

" Forget efficiency, per36s, etc. etc…..just watch the game and see who’s making us a better team, giving us a chance to win. "

Yes. Exactly. Let’s not pay attention to what actually results in winning basketball, let’s pay attention to what superficially results in winning basketball.

The problem with “just watch the game” is that people who just watch the game end overvaluing PPG and undervaluing just about everything. This post is a case in point. It correctly points out that Billups was better, but misses why. It says that Billups was better because of his late-game heroics, but actually Billups was better because of his more consistent play throughout the game. If Monta had been just a little more efficient the entire game, then Billups late-game heroics would have been meaningless.

That being said, in my opinion we lost this game because of our inability to rebound. I’d LOVE to blame that on injuries, except that I’m not sure that Nellie would have run Randolph, Turiaf, etc out there in crunch time even if we had everybody healthy. The team forced enough bad shots in OT to prevail … but couldn’t finish the defensive possesions. Reminded me of the series against Utah, actually.

Sometimes I hate being a Warrior fan.

by Ronaldinho on Jan 21, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Sometimes I hate being a Warrior fan.

+1

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Jan 21, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Carmelo attracts a lot more defensive attention than Maggette does. Carmelo is the primary scorer while Billups is a second option. That means he had it quite a bit easier than Monta did, regardless of the actual production of Maggs v. Carmelo.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Jan 22, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

As I've said before, I think the idea of game-planning for specific opponents is over-rated in Basketball

It’s not like the guy who’s guarding Monta COULD be guarding Corey, or vice versa, most of the time without creating a bigger matchup problem elsewhere.

It’s not like the Warriors had a “stopper” they could have put on Carmelo but didn’t, nor were they double-teaming him pre-emptively – which would open up opportunities for Billups, but you’ll notice that happens very rarely in the regular season.

by Ronaldinho on Jan 22, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I like how you find it neccessary to point out that Monta had 2 fewer boards...

but not that he had 2 more assists (not to mention that Chauncey has way better players to finish assists for him). Billups had a better game, but efficiency is always going to go down when players log huge minutes.

by sjsnider on Jan 21, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I never said the two were equal lines. Obviously they’re not. Anybody can see that. Monta played 15 more minutes to produce what he did and as you noted took 9 more fg’s and 4 more ft’s.

The “matching” wasn’t meant to be literal. It would be nearly impossible for 2 players to have equal or identical stat lines. I didn’t know someone would take the “matching” line so literally. Excuse me, next time I will write “Monta’s Nearly, But Not Quite Identical Stat Line to Billups”. Heck I even said that Billups got the better of Monta.

And honestly, the “matching” was less about the stats but more about being the leader and knocking down big shots or making plays when the team needed it most.

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by Fantasy Junkie on Jan 21, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree Billups had a better game, but the fewer boards argument is weak, when Monta also had 2 more assists.

by belilaugh on Jan 21, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Fine. Call it a wash.

It doesn’t really help Monta’s relative stat line when he put up that many bricks.

by Ronaldinho on Jan 21, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

The guy played 53 minutes

That alone should get him the WW

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Jan 21, 2010 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

He is playing full games on a surgically repaired ankle. If he doesn’t get into the All-star game that would be a travesty.

So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison

by Badly Browned on Jan 21, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

He is playing full games on a surgically repaired ankle. If he doesn’t get into the All-star game that would be a travesty.

  Haha, pity doesn’t count for anything in basketball.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 21, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok, he is playing full games while putting up All-Star numbers while playing on a surgically repaired ankle :D

So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison

by Badly Browned on Jan 21, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

It is good

if Montay gets a chance to play on a all-star game but I rather rest him for the second half of the season

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

by mykelala01 on Jan 21, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Hm, but consider the RESPECK.

This Warriors team would receive some respect if we could get a guy, even as a reserve, into the all-star game. Of course, there are plenty of things the franchise could do on this front, e.g. reassess management, but Monta making the all-star team seems the most likely. I think it would be a step in the right direction considering the last 15 years.

I don’t know, maybe Monta could grow a beard. I mean, either/or.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

This Warriors team would receive some respect if we could get a guy, even as a reserve, into the all-star game

  They’d get some respect if they could figure out how to go to the playoffs and then not blow up the team that got them there.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 21, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

I already presupposed this, but, like I said, Monta making the all-star team seems a lot more likely this season. Generally, you keep reading after the first sentence.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Generally, one keeps reading after the first sentence.

The Skeptic marches to his own drumbeat. ;-P

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 21, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’ve had a number of accounts on here and I’ve been reading the blog for years. I know how he rolls. In style, that’s how. Nevertheless, thank you for the heads up.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Going to an all-star game changes nothing.

You want respect, you earn them with wins.

Front office changes don’t get you respect (although they might stop the bleeding in our case). Signing stars doesn’t get you respect. Going to an all-star game doesn’t get you respect.

Wins get you respect. That’s it.

by Ronaldinho on Jan 21, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow.

That’s a fairly hard stance. You don’t think Monta will get a few extra calls his way if he shows up for an All-star game? I said some respect. Wins would be great, but it’s just not happening this season.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I don't.

The refs see these guys play every night. Heck, they have the best seats in the house.

They’re not going to change the way they call the game because a player was selected to an exhibition team. Heck, I bet most of the refs in the league couldn’t name the 8-12th players on the rosters of last year’s all-star teams.

More importantly, though, I seriously doubt ref bias in favor of superstars is a conscious process. Rather, it’s that the game moves so fast, and these guys are running up and down the court with some of the greatest athletes inthe world, that it becomes a subconscious shorthand: do you BELIEVE that Kobe’s going to make that shot? Well, yes, you’ve seen him do it a couple of hundred times, if he misses it (and throws in a yell like she was shot for good measure) and you don’t really know if he was fouled or not, well … you’re used to him making that shot, walking off the court with a winner’s smile.

So you blow the whistle.

For Monta to start getting superstar calls, he has to start doing what superstars do: produce in big moments, leading to wins. Then the refs will start believing that he regularly makes those shots, and they’ll start believing he must have been fouled when he doesn’t make ’em.

by Ronaldinho on Jan 21, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess we’re both assuming we know how the refs think. It’s entirely plausible your point is the case, but the same can be said about an argument in support of ref bias toward the fan-favorites of the league (which is what Monta could become if admitted to the all-star game). I still say a few more calls would go Monta’s way, so agree to disagree I guess.

I tried to clarify my original thought on “respect” in my post below, forty minutes before you replied to my comment about the refs, which I now see was silly for me to suggest. We could argue the point all day. But if Monta is accepted, I really can’t imagine valid reasoning that he would not gain something in the eyes of players and coaches around the league. Ideally, isn’t an all-star nod simply a symbolic acknowledgment of a player’s hard work and ability?

That has to be a good thing for the Warriors. In the very least, a Warriors player in an All-Star game would be a positive for national media. We’ve had plenty of negative press over the past 15 years.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

How much press does an all-star appearance get you?

Do you think the Bay Area fans, who watch Monta play regularly, will change their opinion of him?

Do you think national fans will, because they want him play for 20 minutes in an exhibition game where nobody cares about the outcome?

I think you have the causaility of “fan favorites.” Players become all-stars because they are fan favorites. Players don’t become fan favorites because they are all stars.

The best way for Monta to become a fan favorite nationwide is for him to lead the Warriors into the postseason. Baron Davis became a nationally-known (and loved) figure because of our playoff upset of the Mavs. Nobody was writing much about him before, but afterwards, a ton. Before that series Baron’s national reputation was as a talented, selfish coach-killer who was hobbled by injuries and would probably never reach his potential. It took one playoff series for that to change.

by Ronaldinho on Jan 21, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Winning is the best way to gain respect around the league. I agree with you! But the warriors won’t be doing that this year (I know you haven’t said they would). Monta making it to the all-star game would be one of the few redeeming things about this season.

I would rather the warriors go to the championship, win, and drink champagne in a rocket on the darn moon, and not have a single player in the all-star game. I understand the exponential difference of the two. But, for me, an all-star game is better than nothing, which is what the warriors will have after this season. Oh, except the mandatory lottery pick and better luck next year.

There is a certain amount of honor in an All-star game, and I’d take it.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

hm

I’m sorry, maybe I made it sound like Monta going to an all-star game will turn this team around. I don’t feel that way at all. But it’s a positive, and the warriors could use a few positive things this season. Even if it’s insignificant to you, I’m willing to bet the players (definitely Monta) would at least appreciate the nod and feel respected in some way.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw something on the CSN broadcast saying Monta had 9 CGs this season, and the rest of the league have a combined 12 CGs. Now, its 10 CGs for Monta to 12 CGs for the rest of the league. That in of itself is AMAZING. He’s really worked very hard for this team and its sad that we are not seeing wins as a result. These refs gotta give Monta his due sooner or later…right?

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Jan 21, 2010 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

Earlier in the year I saw the following stat:

“Monta Ellis has 7 complete games, while the rest of the league has only 3. Those 3? CJ Watson, Anthony Morrow and Stephen Jackson (when he was a Warrior).”

Something like that. Crazy.

by bradyk2 on Jan 21, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

The “crazy” you are referencing is named Don Nelson.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Jan 22, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s really worked very hard for this team and its sad that we are not seeing wins as a result.

   it’s a team sport and our team is bad. It would be sadder if they were winning, that would mean the league sucked.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 21, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's what I want to know and I'm suprised nobody has commented on it

How come at the end of overtime, down by 3 with 22 seconds left we first, rush a shot instead of holding for the last shot . Then second we have a D leaguer take a corner three with 12 seconds left on the clock. Even if he would have made it the game would have been tied with plenty of time left for the Nuggets to put it away.

by VERY VERY BUSY on Jan 21, 2010 11:17 AM PST reply actions  

have you guys checked the espn awards watch page?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/awards

TWO warriors all up on that! Curry #3 for ROY, Maggs #5 for 6th Man!
there’s some light for this very dark and very long tunnel!

There's always to Morrow.

by warriors! on Jan 21, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Maggette

It’s hard to give him that award since he has started so much.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 21, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

The DLeaguers played great

I just want to say I was extremely happy with all three of them tonight. They aernt perfect, but you cant ask for any more effort, and they looked like they knew exactly where to be on most plays on both side of the ball.
It would be great to see more NBA veterans play with that intensity on both sides of the ball. The game would be so much more entertaining.
Maybe money has spoiled our sport?

by warriorsvictim on Jan 21, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions  

I wouldn't mind if we found a way to keep Cartier/Tolliver on the roster the rest of the season

Their presence is definitely felt. Having them around on the rebounding meant that Hunter (and also Biedrins) could come out to contest a shot without sacrificing the defensive rebound. That’s what I saw once last night.

It would give Cartier/Tolliver a chance to get comfortable, get their shot going, get the offensive/defensive system ingrained in their heads, and get better at guarding the big names. Then they can play in crunch time, be a factor, and at the same time, close off the late game rebounding problem that hurt us in this game.

by IQofaWarrior on Jan 21, 2010 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

+1

True with those two on the floor we finally learn how to play defense and rebound the ball. And leave the scoring to Monta, Curry and Maggette

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

by mykelala01 on Jan 21, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather see the front office take all those expiring contracts and put it to good use by bringing in somebody that would give Monta some help and pick up some of the slack so Monta isnt run into the ground by the end of the season.

WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...

by JustSomeName on Jan 21, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The referee

owe us this game again. Whats up with ref and the Nuggets? Specially the late call on the end of the 1st half that cost us 3pts, that hunt us on the end of regulation. And of course the no call on Tolliver 3pt atempt against a superstar Carmello. The referee never give us a break specially an all star vs d leagues. Are they fixing game again???

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

by mykelala01 on Jan 21, 2010 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

Those refs...

The referees will never make the right call to the advantage of the Warriors, I have accepted this fact. What needs to happen for the Warriors is that the need to start winning games that even with a bad call, the game is already won by the point margin. any close games are subjected to the biasness of the refs.

by sleepy latrell on Jan 21, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Those Refs... remix

The referees will never make the right call to the advantage of the Warriors, I have accepted this fact. What needs to happen for the Warriors is that they need to start winning games with a “we against the world” mentality that even with a bad call, the game is already decided by the point margin. Any close games are subjected to the biasness of the refs.

by sleepy latrell on Jan 21, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

Sleepy speaks the truth!

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 21, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh

I didn’t feel nearly as cheated last night as I did two weeks ago.

by Reverend_Randy on Jan 21, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

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by JustSomeName on Jan 21, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

And the Warriors executed their game plan on Carmelo pretty well

I didn’t feel like he was much of a factor. A combination of George’s defense and team help defense kept Carmelo as a shooter, and he had a lot of clangs out there. Looking at the ESPN shot chart for Carmelo, he hit 4 shots out of the paint, but missed 11.

The guy that really hurt us was Chauncey Billups. He was unstoppable in the 4th and OT, but that’s why they call him Mr Big Shot.

by IQofaWarrior on Jan 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

on a whole other note...

i don’t know what i just watched. i think it was made by a mavericks fan, but it was kinda cool.
its a video of how we wrecked the mavs when we only played 6 dudes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpeoK60PUAs&feature=rec-r2-2r-4-HM

we beat the mavs with 6
beat the bulls with 3 d-leagues
took the proposed 2nd best team in the west to OT with the same injury depleted lineup vs their healthy lineup.
UNSTOPPABLE BABY.

There's always to Morrow.

by warriors! on Jan 21, 2010 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

12-28,

Keep up the good hard work fellas. Helps us take our mind off the fact that our only highlight in the last 16 years is getting smashed in in the second round of the playoffs.

Thing B
Boise State, BCS Champions 2010...

by warriorsscore110 on Jan 21, 2010 4:41 PM PST reply actions  

Well

That and Zarko Cabarkapa taking it COAST to COAST. Good times.

by DrManatee on Jan 21, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

lol zarkooooo!

how did that guy ever make the nba. he was awful

"If you can make 10 things happen during the 10 minutes you play tonight, we will quadruple your salary and you will start for the rest of the season" ... and then he does just that, but the coach reneges on the promise so Anthony has a near-crying meltdown on the bench. That's every Anthony Randolph game.

by gsw1 on Jan 21, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I voted for Maggs

But Monta was huge….especially with the 3 that sent the game into OT. I’d written the dubs off and was expecting heartbreak yet again.

No shame with our effort last night. Biedrins fouling out was the key, because we had no one who could match against the Denver bigs down the stretch. I think the turning point was that putback dunk Kenyon Martin had towards the end of OT….Beans could’ve helped prevent that.

Oh well. Bring on the Nets!

by ryogahibiki on Jan 21, 2010 5:52 PM PST reply actions  

I’d written the dubs off and was expecting heartbreak yet again.

Me too. And that’s what we got. It just so happened that it took 5 more minutes of OT for it to come…

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by JustSomeName on Jan 21, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

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