Monta, Give Stephen the Ball.

and 3 games in a row with at least 8

so ridiculous when people act like Monta is the problem with this team. Having Steph run more point is not going to magically turn this team around. Maybe getting better players would be a good idea

I hate it when the ball is being in-bounced and you have Monta on one side and Curry on the other, then whoever is in bouncing the ball throws it to Monta, Curry is the PG on this team, he should be running the ball up and making the plays. In that bulls game, Curry definitely had the hot hand, he could’ve gone way more than the 26 points he scored but he needs to make the plays more often…

Do you guys realize that he has three D-Leaguers who have not been hitting shots the last two games. If he had say Azubuike or Morrow or Randolph or you get my point taking those shots, do you not think that at least 25% more of those wide open shots he has given his teammates would be made? Plus don’t you think he’d be a more willing passer if he had better players around him? I can think of at least two instances in last night’s game, one with Tolliver and one with Martin where they blew wide open layups, or got fouled instead of taking it straight up. His role is to be a scorer, but he would be much more of a willing passer if he had better players at his disposal. That being said, I would like to give Curry the ball more but you guys must realize that Ellis is playing the cards he is dealt. In a side note, what do you guys think of calling Ellis, Curry, and Maggette Run EMC? If that was not said before I nominate it as a new nickname.

Defenses were starting to deny Monta the ball when someone else brought it up. Having Monta bring the ball up counters that.

I agree the Curry should have the ball more, but it won’t happen until people are traded or Curry is a second year player.

Darryl (Oakland, CA)

Should Monte Ellis be an all-star? There isn’t a guard in the league as fast as him and despite playing on a team with 3 D leaguers the warriors still manage to win some games.
John Hollinger (12:45 PM)

The Warriors are pushing him really hard for it, but honestly I don’t think he’s anywhere close to good enough to make it. His team has won 12 games all year and yet they play dramatically better when he’s off the floor; that’s a pretty damning statement there. Ellis has a high scoring average but once you let out the air from the hyper pace and all the minutes he plays, it’s not that impressive. Additionally, he’s one of the league’s least efficient offensive players; he also creates little for others despite having several talented scorers around him. I don’t mean to turn this into a rip job — he’s a talented young player who is pretty good right now and will only get better. But promoting him as an All-Star is completely preposterous.

We want Stephen to have the ball in his hands most of the time. I believe he’s the better PG compared to Ellis and have better ball handling abilities. But in order for Monta to score, Monta needs the ball in his hands a lot of the times. Now, I have been highly critical of Monta in recent comments especially of his efficiency and his PG abilities/leaderhip, but it’s not entirely his fault. The team gives him the ball down the stretch, especially the last couple of minutes during games. The Warrior’s players think that he’s the guy to give it to, so they do it. What do you expect him to do? Just not shoot it? They rely on Monta too much and he’s trying to do a lot much more than he’s expected to do, which isn’t working out. Sure, Monta should pass the ball more often (I’d love to see that), but if players keep giving him the ball, what is he going to do? Shoot.

Overall, I think that Monta should let Curry take the ball more often and should pass it more often, but you can’t blame Monta entirely just because he tries to do more than he should be doing. The team gives him the ball a lot.

raptors wont give up bosh unless they get ellis in the package

I appreciate the mention. And I certainly agree that Monta’s gunning too much; I agree with the title of this post. But I’m going to have to disagree with the premise. I don’t think either of these guys is a point guard, and I don’t think they’ll ever fully click as a tandem because of that… but if we have to make one our primary point guard, I think it should be Monta.

Assist ratio doesn’t really measure how well a guy passes, it just measures how often he passes compared to how often he shoots. You can see this in the top ten in the category, which includes Kidd, Rondo, Nash and Paul, but also Fabricio Oberto, Chris Duhon, Anthony Carter and Jamaal Tinsley. A high assist ratio can mean you’re passing really well, but it can also just mean you’re not doing much else. Steph Curry is in the latter category, and his assist ratio is falling as he shoots more. If we want to figure out who the better playmaker is, we need to look elsewhere.

Now, Curry’s surface passing numbers are better than Monta’s. Per 36, Curry averages 4.9 assists and 2.9 turnovers, for a 1.70 ratio; Monta averages 4.7 assists and 3.5 turnovers, for a 1.33 ratio. Monta’s closing the gap, but that’s still a significant gap… based solely on these numbers, you’d conclude that Curry is the better choice to play the point.

Here’s the thing, though: there are different types of turnovers. And while they’re all bad, a guy getting called for a charge or a double dribble doesn’t prove he’s a bad passer. If we want to know who’s best-suited to running our half-court offense, we need to know who commits more bad passes. And happily, 82games.com records what type of turnovers a guy commits, and also records a stat called “assist/bad pass ratio” — how many assists a guy racks up per passing turnover.

82games only gets updated once a week or so, so their data doesn’t reflect our last four games. But through the Cavs loss, Monta had rung up 3.86 assists for every pass of his that resulted in a turnover. Curry had rung up only 3.14 assists for every bad pass. And seeing as Monta has recorded 32 assists and 13 turnovers in the last four games, and Curry has recorded 20 assists and 16 turnovers, it’s safe to assume that the gap has only widened since then. While Monta’s circus act has resulted in a mountain of turnovers, strictly as a passer, he’s been more efficient than Curry.

Neither one makes a very good point guard, but Monta strikes me as the better choice. He has a much easier time beating his man in the halfcourt than Curry does, and that’s a useful thing when you’re trying to get somebody open. The only thing Curry’s proven really good at in the halfcourt is hitting open shots, and he hasn’t been good at getting himself open… when he was running a bigger chunk of our plays, he barely ever shot the ball. The best formula is probably the one we’ve been trending towards: Monta making the plays, Curry getting fed for threes.

I’m not saying what Monta’s currently doing is working. He’s shooting way too much, and he needs to share the ball a bit more. He should give Curry the ball more often. But he should give Curry the ball so Curry can shoot it, not so Curry can pass it himself.

i can tell how the team is losing just by watchin, not by looking at the stats and comparing players. second chance pts is the reason why the warriors are losing. you spend too much time looking at numbers and blaming it on one player. weve only outrebounded other teams 5 times this year. go figure…. you said you was watching the bulls game and noticed that ellis has become the pg of this team, well guess what weve won that game and outrebounded the bulls. if you have watched denver-gs game, we lost because of second chance points but you wouldnt agree because you’re too busy trying to find ways to criticize monta instead of the whole team or even the coaches. coaches are the ones who sets up the plays and decides whos goin to handle the ball. theres my 2 cent even if im talking to a onesided wall.

is that Curry’s rookie TS was waaay better than LeBrons. Hello, stats not telling the whole story.

Curry and Ellis really should just take turns taking the ball. Monta is only the leading scorer on the team because he takes so many damn shots. He should take less shots, pass the ball more, and let Curry handle the ball more. This would increase Monta’s assist numbers (he might even average a double double the rest of the season), get his teammates involved with more scoring which means more wins, and let Curry develop as a point guard which will bring his numbers up too. I’m kind of glad the Ellis sprained his ankle against the Nets, it allowed Curry to show what he can do.

Curry and Ellis really should just take turns taking the ball

There is going to be times off rebounds and steals that Monat and other players bring the ball up court but what the team needs right now is Curry to be the point guard, the rest of the guys will know what to expect with the ball in his hands running the floor, it will allow the other players to move without the ball knowing they have a play maker with the ball in his hands…

Monat would be the # 1 option, and Curry would pick and choose when to attack on offense, this would stabilize the players and they would know what to expect when he is in control…

His up court vision and all around ball controll is what we need, not a 2 guard looking for his own shot with the ball in his hands on every play…last night should solidify for anyone who may of had some doubt, Curry is the floor leader and the only true PG on this team and we need him to step up and run the of fence…Not play a game of musical chairs with the players…my opinion of cource.

What did you think of the way Curry ran the team last night?