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We need to highly consider keeping Maggette

  This guy is stepping up big. If before the season you told me Corey Maggette, not Anthony Randolph, not Stephen Curry, not Kelenna Azebuike would be Monta Ellis' sidekick I'd laugh. But this guy dare I say, is earning that 50 million dollar contract. His defense is stepping up to the point where he is not a liability but an asset, he's become unselfish, he continues too rebound well and is shooting 65 percent! There is a catch once we hit the offseason, Azebuike has a player option. I love Azebuike but him or Maggs is a toss up. If Azebukie chooses to return and our draft pick most likely being a small forward what happens too Maggs? Is he traded or is Azebuike traded? Now Azebuike if he declines makes everything much simpler but since he got injured badly he may take the less risky move and keep his contract. At this point I am 100% opposed to dumping Maggs for expiring contracts. He's better than that even if it's not his trade value. 

                                     

 

   The thing is, could we package Biedrins and Buike for an upgrade up front? But for who? Every one we covet are free agents. I would love to have either Azebuike or Maggette back but Maggs needs to be considered more than ever to keep. In a recent fanshot (see :Maggette stepping up) he is shown as being a leader and seems to have kept Ellis sane and Curry stable in his rookie year. He is key to this teams chemistry as well but I'll admit it, I was one of Maggette's biggest haters but he has slowly turned me over to the dark side of his ugly yet suddenly extremely effective game.

 

                                                   Dunking is pretty efficient.....

  He still has his flaws and we can nit pick but that would be crazy. Rather he stays or leaves is favor of young guys such as Buike,Morrow and a rookie or stay as a key part of the team he needs more praise than what he is getting. The work he has put in and how he has altered his game top be a better player this year deserves recognition. No more hate for Maggs, it's time we respect him like we respect the likes of Monta, Anthony Morrow, etc. He deserves nothing but loud cheers and applause from the roaracle crowd.

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Is he proving he is worth his contract?
NEVER! A 30 year old injury prone ball hog? Really?
24 votes
Yes! His leadership and great efficiency is worth the price.
82 votes
He's getting there, come back to me after the all star break
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Hahahaha

and not a single mention to the article just beneath this one that discusses this very subject…lol -‘Shifting Sands’

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by BritWarriorGSW on Jan 5, 2010 3:42 AM PST reply actions  

Contract

People need to forget about the $50 million because that is the future. It’s hard finding cheap talent. Talent costs money. You’re not getting a guy like Maggette for $20 million.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 5, 2010 6:10 AM PST reply actions  

No. He’ll never be worth his contract.

by Kid Curry on Jan 5, 2010 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

Rarely is a player worth the money they get

Maggs is doing a great job – I think SJax leaving helped him step up his game and take a leadership role. I also think he wants to change his rep in the league a bit. If it serves us as making our team better or making him a better trade piece then we really benefit from him this year. Definitely not the Maggs of last year.

by tjmax on Jan 5, 2010 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

You are right. Rarely do you get your moneys worth but seriously his contract is just horrible. He can put up numbers but he doesn’t help you win. What makes him so different from a player like Glenn Robinson or the Old Zach Randolph or Abdur Rahim.

by GoldenSt8OfMind on Jan 5, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

old Zach Randolph? Randolph’s numbers haven’t changed… what has? His mentality? Why can’t Maggs do the same and some of us are convinced that he is changing his mentality…

by monta ellis on Jan 6, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree talent costs money.Unless u draft a quality rookie in the middle of the 1st round.I say Trade C.Mag and Azubuike for draft picks.

by J-RIDAH on Jan 5, 2010 9:02 AM PST reply actions  

Who exactly wants to give up draft picks for Maggette? How do you envision someone being able to take them off our hands without sending back comparable sized contracts. If a team isn’t under the cap, they can’t just absorb players in return for picks and I can’t see a team under the cap being all that interested in Maggette.

by jae on Jan 5, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

why would we trade azubuike though?

Cause Havoc. Bring Nash in and 120 point games will be very expected

by monta.da.boss on Jan 5, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree

I really don’t understand why people keep on rooting for him to be traded. He’s playing really good for us right now and the SF position fits him well…

by ARandolph on Jan 5, 2010 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

why people keep on rooting for him to be traded.

Because as long as he is our second best team, we will continue our ‘Suck’. His contract is killing future free agent oppurtunities. Thats why I root for him to be traded.

Thing B
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by warriorsscore110 on Jan 5, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

While having him as your second best player isn’t a good thing, trading him doesn’t necessarily improve things. If we trade him to dump his contract but essentially wind up promoting another player to be our “second best player”, we’re not any better off.

His contract is difficult to move, but it’s not the reason why the team is bad right now. It’s a potential blocker if we’re trying to liquidate everything and sign a big name free agent, but I doubt that with or without him doing so would really be possible.

by jae on Jan 5, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

"Because as long as he is our second best team, we will continue our ‘Suck’"

How is that his fault that he’s the second best player ?? Just because he’s our 2nd best player, we should trade him ? what ??? that makes no sense…. If the Warriors can get a quality player for him that will IMPROVE the team, then by all means, pull the trigger but why just get rid of him because his salary is so “outrageous”…. We all know the Warriors FO and we all know that the Warriors wont get a FA all star this summer, whether they have Maggette or not…

by ARandolph on Jan 5, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly. Just cause hes playing well not doesn’t mean anything. When he’s off his hot streak you guys will be off the wagon again. He hurts our future plain and simple

by GoldenSt8OfMind on Jan 6, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would you trade Maggette?

Unless its going to clearly make the team better, we shouldn’t be looking to get rid of our second best player. Maggette had an off year last year, partially due to more injuries than he usually sustains and partially because he switched to a different team. Give the guy a break! The contract is already signed, he’s on the team, and to be honest with you guys, even if we got rid of his contract, we aren’t going to sign any big time free agents. They don’t want to come here. Period. Not with the kind of FO and Coach we have right now. I agree that he shouldn’t be shooting long jumpers, but otherwise he is doing everything right.

by Pearlsofwisdom on Jan 5, 2010 10:11 AM PST reply actions  

we shouldn’t be looking to get rid of our second best player.

The second best player on a 9-23 team isnt saying much, espicially if said player is long in the tooth, overpaid, and has a extensive history of injuries. If we can ship him with either Watson, Azibuike, or Wright for shorter contract, than thats a move we should make. This is a lost season, I personally could care less if we finish 14th in the West or 11th in the West.

Thing B
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by warriorsscore110 on Jan 5, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

The second best player on a 9-23 team isnt saying much

there’s a real argument to be made that he’s been our best player this year. he’s been amazing offensively, does whatever he’s asked on the defensive side of things (he can’t guard 4s well, but someone needed to do it when half the team was hurt), he’s gracefully accepted coming off the bench, rebounds his position well, and i’ll bring it up again has been a ridiculously good scorer this year. just because monta is getting more touches does not mean he’s been more effective. maggette has been great this year.

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by cap'n hack on Jan 5, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

just to play devils advocate

The biggest reason to trade Maggette right now is that his contract hampers long term plans. Listening to Larry Riley on the Razor and Mr.T on Monday, its obvious at this point that the front office is looking into trading one of our young talented players in order to bring in a quality player to become Ellis’ sidekick. So if Curry, Morrow, Randolph, or whoever starts to become trade interest, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Maggette’s contract is needed to balance things out, especially if the Warriors are looking for that complimentary go to player to match Ellis. In addtion, precisely because Maggette has been playing so well these last couple weeks, his trade value is going up and making such a trade more and more possible.

by kyzah on Jan 5, 2010 10:21 AM PST reply actions  

you're speaking sensibly, not devilishly

any changes of substance in the personnel will cost something in actual on-court talent, not just a package of contracts attached to the likes of d.george or claxton. nearly the entire roster is expendable in the name of boosting cohan’s net worth, and we have to remember that their quest for another star to complement ellis will be aimed at ticket sales, and isn’t likely to increase the wins sufficiently to make the team a contender. they need a coherent, comprehensive rebuilding plan, and there’s no reason to think riley has the clout or mandate to do implement that. someone at the exec v.p. level (riley is far below that) has to be focused and empowered to assemble a winning combination of playing and coaching talent, and we know that isn’t in cohan’s plans.

by the.monk on Jan 5, 2010 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Anyone still sad that we "settled" for Maggette after Brand and Arenas turned down our offers?

Of the three contracts, Maggette is DEFINITELY the best piece so far.

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by JustSomeName on Jan 5, 2010 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

Buike ain't walking.

After the season ending injury. He’d rather play for a better contract in the next offseason rather than testing the waters in 2010. He’ll be back and I for one am glad that he will be.

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by JustSomeName on Jan 5, 2010 11:50 AM PST reply actions  

Maggs has been playing AMAZING

but he still does not fit in the long term plans of this team (at least what I envision the teams plans to be). Trading him now would definitely hurt us NOW, but could be the best thing we do for ourselves long term.

If we somehow managed to get an expiring contract for Corey + Fillers, AND use all the expiring contracts we have to trade for someone who is better or as good as Ellis….we will be a far better team.

Regardless of how well Corey is playing, he is still a player that can stagnate an offense. Playing like he does not stagnate an offense for 20 games, does not change the fact that he has been someone who has done that for his entire career.

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by LostHawkGSW on Jan 5, 2010 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

Azebuike

I wonder how many variations of Azubuike’s spelling we will see in our lifetime.

Seriously people, you’re using a computer to post stuff, there’s no excuse to misspell a player on the team you follow.

/rant

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by Doctor Kajita on Jan 5, 2010 12:24 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

ESPN Rumor Central

Says that Maggs bad contract is preventing us from making meaningful moves.

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by LostHawkGSW on Jan 5, 2010 1:52 PM PST reply actions  

Rumor?

How is common knowledge a rumor?

by tjmax on Jan 5, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

i agree unless you are getting a player with the same numbers as maggete teade him , but if its just for cap relief dont do it !!!

by BillyMaysHere on Jan 5, 2010 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

hey billy mays

we dont accept homophobic comments that you made on mccovey chronicles so dont make any comments like that on here.

Cause Havoc. Bring Nash in and 120 point games will be very expected

by monta.da.boss on Jan 5, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Maggette has been excellent recently

And that is exactly why he should be traded. While I’m not wild about the concept of the salary dump in today’s NBA, there should be a few teams interested in Corey based on recent play, and because of that, the Warriors would have at least a little bargaining power (well, maybe it would help if they didn’t have a puppet GM but whatever…). If the W’s wait until Corey strains his hamstring or has a string of bad games, then his trade value is nil. This forces the W’s to include a young cheap player, something that should be avoided in any likely Maggette deal. Whether this front office can pull that off is another story.

by UncleCliffy on Jan 5, 2010 2:20 PM PST reply actions  

Totally Agree

Sell HIGH!

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by LostHawkGSW on Jan 5, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

It’s really time to push hard on a Maggette + Speedy for Kirilenko swap. A longshot, yeah, but it’d give the Jazz the ‘09-’10 savings they’re desperate for, and on our side it’s a no-brainer: better player, better fit, better contract. I’d happily throw in CJ and even a guy like Turiaf to make it happen; I wouldn’t part with those guys just to dump a contract, but if we can dump a contract and get a talent upgrade, it’s worth making some sacrifices.

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by onlxn on Jan 5, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

CJ yes....Turiaf hell no...

Maggette, CJ, Speedy for AK47…yep I think I would take that…

BUT….

Maggette is playing superbly for us and for that, I have to give the guy some loyalty and I would actually like him to stay..

"Better a Has-been than a Never-was. But better a Never-was than a Never-tried-to-be"

by BritWarriorGSW on Jan 5, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

no jump shot please

As long as he doesn’t take jump shots and drives and tries to play D? He can stay. =) I like him. Aint much else we can replace him with is there?

by Degenerate on Jan 5, 2010 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

But....

Since we aint going no where this year… If we can package him and keep Monte and Randolph and Curry still for a proven player.. (Whom that might be? I don’t know.. We wont get no Allstar in return.. Were the W’s).. Go for it. Buike will be back next year and he can play just as well as Maggette IMO. We manly need a Post player /defender and we’ll be fine and compete maybe next year for a 8th seed..

by Degenerate on Jan 5, 2010 4:33 PM PST reply actions  

I remember when...

Everyone wanted to trade Maggette for nothing,now he’s like god.
PLEASE,I love the man but if you’re going to support him;then support him no matter what.

by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Jan 5, 2010 4:59 PM PST reply actions  

exactly

if i recall dubzfan was one of the biggest maggette haters on this blog.

Cause Havoc. Bring Nash in and 120 point games will be very expected

by monta.da.boss on Jan 5, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup and I admited it

That’s how it was with Monta for a lot of people here as well.

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by dubzfan on Jan 5, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Corey is the only consistent contributor we have, other than M8E.

So yes we NEED Corey Maggette. The only way we should trade him is if we can get someone just as consistent on both ends of the floor.

His contract won’t let that happen, so we got him for awhile, not to upset though.

by myk on Jan 5, 2010 5:47 PM PST reply actions  

Love MAGGS

I always dominate with him on NBA 2K10…………….. By the way my gamertag is BIG L 925 (i dont hav a headset but i will get one) if anyone wants to play ball hit me up

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by dubzero23 on Jan 6, 2010 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

If Mags was on a reasonable contract, nobody would be saying trade him.

The problem is he isn’t.

He’s got three years left on that deal, after this one. Since we’re not going to be competing for the playoffs this year, or probably next year … the only time when we’re going to be in a position to actually win with him is when he’s a declining, overpaid player.

At that point, I don’t expect him to be able to contribute to us winning as much as the guy we could get for the $10+m he’ll get getting.

So the question is simple: can we trade him NOW to improve our chances of winning 2-3 years from now?

Yes, trading him will probably hurt this year. So what? This year hurts plenty already, it’s not going to get any worse. But if we could get some cap space and a decent draft pick, well, then, all of a sudden we’ve got pieces who might be contributing when the rest of this team starts to figure it out.

Yes, it’s giving up on this season – but this season is done already. It might even be hurting us for next season – but if Nellie’s our coach, we aren’t making the playoffs then, either.

by Ronaldinho on Jan 6, 2010 10:49 PM PST reply actions  

We're 10-24. Our team isn't any better with or without him.

$50M on a injury prone guy who doesn’t make us better. And history suggests that he’s gonna get hurt any game now. I’d love to hear fans thoughts once he goes down again, it’s gonna happen. I’m gonna say “hey, remember when people thought of him as a keeper??”

We have GOT to trade him before he gets hurt again.

by Bob on Jan 8, 2010 7:08 PM PST reply actions  

All you people are living in Fantasy Land

Compare Magg’s numbers to the rest of the players making $10M a year. Maggette destroys most of them, in most stat categories. Also how dumb do you need to be to try to dump our second best player, on the hopes that Cohan will used the money on better players?

by Aliengames on Jan 15, 2010 5:46 AM PST reply actions  

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