Should Warriors consider trying to bring back Troy Murphy?
Obviously the Warriors have had to battle with injuries to their big men with most recently Anthony Randolph, so why not try to bring back Troy Murphy, there have been rumors that the pacers want to get rid of his contract. Yes, Troy has battled his own injuries but if he can show hes healthy over the next couple of weeks why not go for it? His $11m salary can match up with a lot of the warriors expiring contracts.
Murphy has been playing at a high level when healthy posting up percentages of 50% fg, 40% 3pt, 80% ft to go along with his usual production of 15pt and 10reb. He could come and be the 3rd consistent scorer we lack behind ellis and maggette. Plus he would still be under contract for the 2010-2011 season, which at the end of that season the warriors SHOULD know if randolph or wright is the future PF of this team or whether they should simply try to resign troy.
People have brought up Boozer and West, yet I have my objections to both. Boozer would simply be a short-term rental, while he would help the team this season, realistically we are not making the playoffs. I see no way that he would resign with the warriors. When it comes to West, who i wouldn't mind seeing as a warrior, I see no way the hornets would trade him to us without giving up one of our top players(maggette, randolph, etc). Yet the pacers might be willing to give up Murphy with Granger and Dunleavy coming back from injuries and being able to fill their two starting forward spots. Maybe a combination of 3 of Claxton, George, Radmanovic, or Bell's contracts plus a 2nd round pick does the trick. Think the warriors should look into the possibility?
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its not that i don't think murphy is good
just its pointless. we’d probably give up more than what we are receiving.
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And it ruins us
We can’t run and gun with Troy Murphy on the court, he doesn’t fit our style,he isn’t a good defender either so he would probably make our defense even worse because he can’t block shots.
I would rather have Chris Hunter
guys!!!!
it doesn’t matter if a player doesn’t fit our system. Our system sucks! I want good players.
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by monta.da.boss on Jan 10, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
I would rather have Chris Hunter
Come on, really? Hunter can’t exactly run, either, and at least Murphy can shoot….did I mention Hunter rebounds like a SF?
by Missing Barry on Jan 10, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
and that murphy is an excellent rebounder
that alone seperates the two.
Bellineli, Gallinari, and Radman are my heroes!!!
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by monta.da.boss on Jan 10, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
Murphy is worse than Maggette...
in terms of staying healthy.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Jan 9, 2010 11:27 PM PST reply actions
Absolutely not.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
way to be short and concise.
Bellineli, Gallinari, and Radman are my heroes!!!
Monta PPG> Monta IQ
Lakers Fans= Terrible
Go C's
Giants need to sign Barry Bonds outta retirement.
by monta.da.boss on Jan 10, 2010 1:39 AM PST up reply actions
No way Jose
Pointless, bad trade possibilities, contract issues, and were getting MURPHY back… So no.
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
Murphy was honestly not that bad of a player when he was with the Dubs. It was always more about his bad contract being a burden than his play.
He might not have been that bad on the Warriors, but he wasn’t that good, either.
by Missing Barry on Jan 10, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Troy Murphy AKA Jim from The Office.
Lmao.
by HOLDEMUPGoldenStateOfOppression on Jan 10, 2010 3:28 AM PST reply actions
Only Indiana take Radmanovic
It would be a good trade if they take him. In the same role, Murphy is taller, a better rebounder, a better scorer and a better shooter. He is a veteran of this franchise. If a Claxton-Rad work, it is definitively a good trade. We can clean a spot in thd roster indeed
I would do that trade in a heartbeat too
The only thing that Radman does better than Murphy is on ball D. I liked Murphy with the dubs and he could be useful to us. BUT… Dont see Murphy be a difference maker at all for this team
are you kidding me]
why would you add salary with murphy when he isn’t even an upgrade.
Bellineli, Gallinari, and Radman are my heroes!!!
Monta PPG> Monta IQ
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Giants need to sign Barry Bonds outta retirement.
by monta.da.boss on Jan 10, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I think Murphy is significantly better than Vlad. Murphy has a 39.8% career 3PT%, compared to 37.9% for Vlad, 10.5 rebounds per 36 compared to 6.1 for Vlad (though to be fair, you could probably bump that number up a rebound or so for when Vlad plays the 4 to make it an apples-to-apples comparison, but it’s still way below Murphy anyways), for their careers they’re both below average in terms of scoring efficiency, but Murphy’s shown a great positive trend and is now working on his third straight year of very good scoring efficiency, compared to Vlad who’s only matched what Murphy’s been doing for 3 years now once in his whole career, and there doesn’t seem to be much of a trend (longest sentence ever?). Muphy also scores at a much higher rate, and given his new level of efficiency, that’s good. Neither are much defensively, I’m comfortable saying they’re comparable. Vlad’s put the effort in, at times, but still can’t guard anyone down low, neither of them can do much off the ball in terms of defending shots, Vlad is probably better on the perimeter on the ball, Murphy better inside on the ball….
So there seems like there’s at least some reasoning behind this – we won’t have cap room next year to do anything with the expiring anyways, and both Vlad and Murphy expire the following season, so in essence we’d delay the expiring a year (which doesn’t matter since it isn’t useful to us now) for a substantial upgrade. Also, as Spaniard mentioned, it clears a roster spot, which we could definitely use right now…
by Missing Barry on Jan 10, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
I never said Murphy wasn't better than Vlad
but there is no point if we are trading expirings that can get much more. And Murphy is having a bad season. His plus/minus is among the worst in the league for whatever reason.
Bellineli, Gallinari, and Radman are my heroes!!!
Monta PPG> Monta IQ
Lakers Fans= Terrible
Go C's
Giants need to sign Barry Bonds outta retirement.
by monta.da.boss on Jan 10, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
And i'm fine with Vlad and keeping expiring contracts rather than trading them all for Murphy
and what i meant is Murphy is not an upgrade over Randolph or Biedrins. Over Turiaf…yes. Over Radman…. yes.
But the latter two aren’t starting.
Bellineli, Gallinari, and Radman are my heroes!!!
Monta PPG> Monta IQ
Lakers Fans= Terrible
Go C's
Giants need to sign Barry Bonds outta retirement.
by monta.da.boss on Jan 10, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
And of course opportunity cost is a worthy consideration. Your points are fair. In a vacuum, Murphy over Vlad + expiring is better for us, I think, so I think it’s probably worth doing if that’s the only option….so it’s at least worth exploring. Of course if we have better options we should take them.
by Missing Barry on Jan 10, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Troy Murphy
He’s one of the biggest reasons (along with Corey Maggette) why those “fantasy stats” don’t mean a damn thing in terms of winning in the NBA.
"We Deserve"
Hell no !!
Murphy was an underachiever the first,why would we want him back ??!!
Dr. Jeff
Do not want Murphy back. Someone else did raise an interesting point, though, if it involved swapping Murphy and VladRad, sure, but that’s about the only way, and I don’t see a reason why the Pacers would do that…
in nba 2k10
in the my player mode, troy murphy is on the warriors. and i play as the pg on the warriors :) just a random fact
In my friend's My Player mode
they traded Ellis for Chauncey and the also acquired TJ Ford. They run a 4 PG lineup with my friend’s player at point, even though he’s 6’7".
by Reverend_Randy on Jan 11, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
Troy Murphy is a losing basketball player. He not only has never been on a winning team, but he’s made almost every team he’s ever been on worse when he was on the floor. His defense is just that bad.
Do not want — do not remotely want. At least Vlad’s cheaper.
Ladies and gentlemen, your Golden State Worriers.
by onlxn on Jan 10, 2010 3:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Unless Murphy has changed ...
… he is one of the worst defenders at the PF spot in the league. You think Randolph struggles at that position? WEll, at least he tries.
I can’t be the only oen who remembers Murphy’s patented, “I’m going to let my guy go past me and block out someone else’s man to improve my chances at a rebound” defense, can I?
Bad move
Could make some sense for reasons that others have mentioned, but I just don’t like the idea of him being on the team again. We sucked when he was here, not a crime in itself, but we got so much better without him, which has me thinking this may be a lateral move at best , and that is a real stretch. Seems like a move just to make a move.
Murphy is more or less exactly Biedrins
they play different ways but the production is more or less equal. Biedrins is younger and fits our style of play. What exactly is troy murphy gonna get us?
What?
Biedrins plays solid defense (although he’s not strong enough to be a stopper against the bigger bigs in the league). Murphy doesn’t know what the work defense means.
Biedrins is a career 60% shooter. Murphy is a career 45% shooter. Murphy’s three and better FTs don’t even it out: Murphy TS 54%. BIedrins 60%. This is not equal production.
Rebounding? Murphy is 10.5 per 36 career. Biedrins is 12.1 per 36 career.
Murphy is “more or less exactly” a much worse player than Biedrins. It’s not even close.
murphy's been over 60% TS% last 3 years
and his rebounds have been up. Even using that as a benchmark…. it’s even
I’d still give Biedrins the edge for defense (both on and off ball) and I do believe his rebounding is more useful than Murphy’s. Murphy doesn’t box out, and frequently lets his guy get an easy offensive rebound putback. At least that’s what happened on the Warriors. I don’t watch the Pacers. Biedrins rebounding is better at preventing this.
by Missing Barry on Jan 11, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
If by even you mean:
That Troy has had one season where he matched Biedrins career average in rebounds per 36, then yes, you’re right. But that’s not even.
And no, his rebounds “haven’t been up.” This year his rebounds per 36 is exactly his career average. So, again … no.
You say Murphy’s TS% has been over 60% in the last three years, that’s not just not true. It was up over it last season and it’s up over it this season. That’s a year and a half, not three years. (Where are you getting these numbers? Are you just making stuff up?)
How about blocks? Murphy .5 per 36 min. Biedrins 1.8 per 36min, career. Murphy’s steal numers are worse, too.
They are NOT even. It’s not close. Biedrins is better.
Getting Murphy back might be the move that tips the scales
and makes fans stop coming to the games, which will force Cohan to sell the team.
Let’s go get him!
by warriorsvictim on Jan 12, 2010 10:45 AM PST reply actions
I don’t like the idea of trading for “decent” players.
We’re a (relatively) bad team; while a guy like Murphy may be a good fit on the warriors, he’s not the tipping point that takes us from lottery-team to playoff-team.
Right now, we have a team that, barring a miraculous second half of the season, will handily miss the playoffs. We should do two things:
1) Continue playing together. We’re just learning to have a lot of fun together, and the chemistry is showing. Players are learning to play together, while young players – Curry, Morrow, Martin, etc., – are beginning to develop. If we can be healthy next season (knock on wood), we will be a significantly better team. Look at the strides we’ve made this season….at the beginning of the season people said Monta and Curry couldn’t play together, 10 games in we should trade monta, 15 games in we should fire Nellie, 20 games in we should trade Maggette, 25 games in we should tank and play for John Wall. Now we’re coming together, Curry is a top-5 rookie, Maggette has embraced his role and become extremely efficient, Monta is stepping up and bordering superstardom, everyone is playing defense (still not a great defensive team, but we have made gargantuan strides in terms of individual defense), and there are second, third and fourth extra passes, energy back on the court and in the Oracle, camaraderie, and, most importantly, wins.
2) Explore options for an all-star to compliment Monta Ellis (though I prefer doing this via Free Agency, not trades). If we can get a good deal (Pau Gasol to the Lakers, anyone?) on the kind of player that is the piece that makes us a playoff contender, let’s go for it. By all means!
But until that right offer, we must continue to do the first thing, play together. Because we are getting better (In our last eight games we are 4-4, with the teams we played being a combined 179-125, with the only bad loss being to Portland. We had one arguably stolen in Denver, and lost to LA and Cleveland by a combined seven points). Much much much better. I see no reason to disrupt that chemistry and development by shipping off some mediocre player for a decent player.
If we land Bosh or Amar’e in FA this summer, then we surround with the perfect role players. But right now we’re growing as a team, and I don’t think we should disrupt the development of Martin, Hunter, etc., to bring in a guy that gives us 32 wins instead of 30.
just my 2 cents though.
Just want to note we won’t be under the cap to sign a FA this next offseason.
by Missing Barry on Jan 12, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions

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