SOUND FAMILIAR? Knicks head coach Mike D'Antoni discussed Randolph's disappointing preseason on...

SOUND FAMILIAR?

Knicks head coach Mike D'Antoni discussed Randolph's disappointing preseason on Thursday.

"He's got big potential," D'Antoni told the New York Daily News. "What does potential mean? Up to now he hasn't done a whole lot. He's good. He's got talent, great future and we hope all that. We got to keep teaching him and he's got to keep learning. Every once in a while he'll go off on a tangent that he can't do during the regular season. We're trying to get him to understand do the easy things. But it's up to him."

"He should be a stat magnet," D'Antoni added. "He should go on the floor and have three blocks, five rebounds get to the line three times, have two dunks, come out and he's only played five minutes. And you'll say 'whoa, look at that.' He has to have so much energy that he's changing the game."

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So if he does all that...

Why does he not play? Bad practices?

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by dubzfan on Oct 15, 2010 10:57 AM PDT reply actions

…because he has a penchant for handing the ball to the other team, being on the wrong side of the floor, and generally spazzing out at inopportune moments.

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by Supafishal on Oct 15, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions

I mean, really watch him?
He make some the most amazing, athletic, creative, awe-inspiring plays, things that mad you believe that he was a future all-star or possible MVP candidate.
Then he would follow it up with an errant pass out of bounds, an ill-advised jumper, a missed defensive assignments, and just going invisible on offense for a couple minutes. Then it’s back to the bench.
For all of Randolph’s considerable potential (and he has more potential for greatness than anyone on our current roster, Curry included), he is simply too much of a liability on the court to play a lot of minutes. I’m rooting for Randolph to succeed. When he’s on, he is force of nature, but the guy simply makes too many mistakes right now.

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by philthiest on Oct 15, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

totally agree

too bad!
I would really like to see him reach his potential, but he still plays like he is numb from the shoulders up

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Oct 15, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions

The way Dantoni makes it sound

Is that he makes tons of plays even in a short period of time. I’d let a turnover or bad jumper slide if he got the production he said above

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Oct 15, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions

“He should be a stat magnet,” D’Antoni added. "He should go on the floor and have three blocks, five rebounds get to the line three times, have two dunks, come out and he’s only played five minutes […] He has to have so much energy that he’s changing the game.

Emphasis mine. The use of conditional tense and imperative mood speaks volumes.

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by Sleepy Freud on Oct 15, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions

+1

Exactly. Read the the actual wording.

by duballers23 on Oct 15, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions

No more blaming Nellie. Good riddance AR.

by J-RIDAH on Oct 15, 2010 11:12 AM PDT reply actions

So if he does all that... Why does he not play?

Haha, I’ve wondered the same thing. You’d think that instead of complaining about what Rudolf can’t do these “smart” coaches would design a game plan around what Rudolf can do and capitalize on it?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Oct 15, 2010 11:13 AM PDT reply actions

That's the point....

The coaches DO game plan and Randolph BUT it’s tough to game plan around a limited player who doesn’t study/apply it to game situations.

You can’t design an offensive game plan around a big man who can’t shoot, has no post moves, and can’t pass.
You can’t design a defensive game plan around a big man who doesn’t know his rotations and relies on his athletic ability.

I’m pretty sure Nellie/D’Antoni have been telling AR to…..
- Face his defender in the wing/high post and take it to the rack instead of shooting a jump shot.
- Study the defensive rotations so you can properly unleash your athletic ability on defense.

That’s the game plan with AR, but it’s up to Randolph to stick to it or put in the necessary work to expand that game plan.

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by FLAxwless on Oct 15, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Run and gun is the problem, not just Randolph.

Run and gun is a style of play that as we have seen works best for Veteran players who have been held back by slow, mechanical play for a large part of their career. Hence Baron Davis, Stephen Jackson and Al Harington when the We Beleive team upset the Mavs. To expect an immature, inexperienced and freakishly atheltic player like Randolph to tap into his potential without actually learning the game of basketball when it’s slowed down is unfair. Don Nelson asked him to do that and now D’Antoni is and they both were making huge mistakes. I think Randloph would do well to wind up on Jerry Sloan’s bench for the next 3 years before he’s alowed to play run and gun. The game has to slow down for him before he can tap into his potential.

by Dro50 on Oct 15, 2010 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

+1

Really well thought post. I’m gonna mull over that principle for a bit.

by Uwe Blog on Oct 15, 2010 2:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

makes me think of Gerald Wallace

When he was on the Kings. So ridiculously athletic, but not a big contributor. Gets his shot with the expansion draft in Charlotte, and he’s a monster. But Adleman wouldn’t play him. The team’s offense was about fluid passing and lots of cuts, and maybe? Wallace just didn’t figure the game out yet.

by Uwe Blog on Oct 15, 2010 2:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

Run and gun is a style of play that as we have seen works best for Veteran players

Whhaaaat?
Let’s just completely ignore Nelson’s first tenure (remember the whole run DMC thing?)…because that would pretty much blow your statement out of the water

Curry seems to be doing ok.
Not a vet, did not play on a slow mechanical team…?

I do agree with your last point about AR needing to see the game slow down, but run-n-gun is good for everybody, especially athletic players (which are the types of veterans that the Dubs generally trade for…Lou, DWright, all our D-league guys)

AR just needs to pull his head out and actually learn the game. I think his problem is that because he is such a freak, all he needed to do was be in generally the right position. NBA just has such a high talent level that you need to know opposing players tendancies, watch D rotations, know the priority on offensive sets…and it just seems like AR has not been able to learn this…yet?…maybe never

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Oct 15, 2010 2:15 PM PDT reply actions

Curry seems to be doing ok.

Curry, a player who grew up with a dad in the NBA and played college ball as a guard for years, is not a typical kid who comes out of college. He’s also not a 1 and done player.
Obviously there are exceptions, but they are just exceptions.

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by Reverend_Randy on Oct 15, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Not to mention his mental/smarts high IQ combined with the high basketball IQ.

Randolf has still not understood that he needs put max work into his mental preparation. He fired his first manager for trying to be honest with him. I am guess that he is surrounded by people who who keep incouraging his delusions of greatness that will come to him because of his physical ability. He seems to be bone headed.

by Only In Fairfax on Nov 10, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions