Monta, Scoring Champ?
Al Harrington has gone on record, predicting that Monta will be the scoring champ this year, according to a recent sports article. While Al Harrington is an idiot, I think this is an interesting claim.
Monta takes it to the hole against a reeling Rockets defense.
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Can Monta be the scoring champ this year? If so, would that be good for the Warriors? I am not predicting he will be and certainly don't expect him to become the scoring champ. However, I also can't say it's impossible.
Monta Ellis has proven in the past that he can step up his game and improve dramatically. In 2006-2007, he was recognized by the NBA as the most improved player. What's more, as the Monta Ellis article from Wikipedia explains:
Monta Ellis became the ninth guard in league history to shoot at least 60 percent from the field in a single month after making 60.2 percent of his shots in February, 2008. He was honored after the last game of the month by assistant coach Sidney Moncrief, one of the eight other players to achieve the feat; the other guards to perform this feat were John Stockton,Ricky Pierce, Earl Monroe, Jim Paxson, Fred Brown, Sidney Moncrief, Brad Davis, and Steve Nash. Monta Ellis also scored over 30 points in the month of February for four games straight.
Keep in mind that none of those other guards scored nearly as high as Monta, which is to say that was probably the greatest regular season scoring month of any guard in the NBA ever.
While Monta has not lived up to expectations since then, partly due to a certain self-inflicted injury of his, Keith Smart seems to be of the opinion that Monta is a new man, perhaps on the verge of repeat greatness:
This young man has made a complete turnaround in his life, and once your life is in order things start to work perfectly for you. His relationship and his life are in great order, and the guy has been ready to play since the summer working with Coach Silas in Memphis, and he's carried that over when he came into town early and he’s done that through preseason. He’s also been teaching. There was a point in practice yesterday, I was getting ready to explain to explain something I saw, and right then he stepped in, and that’s growth. He’s also trying to do it (score) in an efficient way, I can’t say how glad I am to be coaching this guy at this particular point in his career...
At halftime he was 10-13 and he was scoring in an efficient way [on opening night against the Rockets]. He’s not wanting to have the ball in his hand a lot, but he’s taking shots in the area where he shot the ball from a couple of years ago, the mid-range pull-up. He’s just got to understand that he has a unique skill where he can shoot the three; he can put it on the floor for the mid-range pull-up and get to the rim.
There is no question, Monta will likely be one of the better scoring guards in the league this year. The question is, just how good will he be? Judging by game one, he looks determined to have a different kind of scoring year, one perhaps that will better reflect what he accomplished in his MIP year.
Smart sees that if Monta sticks to what he does best, the mid-range pull-up and attacking the rim, he's going to be truly special, not only scoring a lot but scoring efficiently. Between David Lee's talents down low and Curry's passing and deadly three point shooting, teams have a lot to worry about playing against the Dubs other than Monta himself. If Monta can take advantage of Curry's passing and the attention both Curry and Lee will draw away from him, we may see a career year from him in scoring. Will that be enough to surpass the likes of Kevin Durant? I'm going to say, no it won't be. Durant will be the scoring champ this year.
But I see Monta as a man on a mission this year, someone who sees his life going well, on and off the court. That type of self-image and attitude will take him far, but his incredible speed and natural abilities may take him to the top of the heap among guards in the NBA. With a player like that, my calls for Monta to be traded will permanently end (barring a truly phenomenal trade offer), and so should everyone else's calls for such a thing.
**Update**
Dorrel Wright after Wednesday's near triple-double against the Grizz, wherein Monta scored 39, via Yahoo! Sports recap:
That’s why he’s one of the elite players... He’s the face of this organization because he can get going any time he wants to. He reminds me of Dwyane Wade... It was impeccable.
Looks like Monta is still on pace to at least score more than last year. The man looks great so far this season, does he not? Here's the NBA scoring leaders. After 4, Monta is number 1.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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First of all
All the choices on your poll suck… So I’m not gonna answer it…
Anyway, who cares what Al H says? Monta had one good game, everyone is in love with him. If he sucks tonight there will threads about trade scenarios for him… Thats just the way fickle minds of people work, so lets try not to get too caught up in that… please…?
Personally I think if Monta leads the league in scoring it isn’t a good sign. Unless there was some miraculous transformation that happened over the summer, Monta will not be as efficient as Curry or Lee. I hope that Monta can give up the ball enough to let Curry and Lee do their thing, which could also help Monta be more efficient in the end. Its hard for me to see a realistic scenario that would have Monta leading the league in scoring and the Dubs being a good team.
by freerandolph on Oct 29, 2010 6:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
All the choices on your poll suck… So I’m not gonna answer it…
LOL I figure, any poll is better than no poll. If you have a recommendation for what I should add to the poll, maybe I will add it.
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
haha, well i guess there could be an option about feeling positive that doesn't have to do with suicide or trading Monta, lol
Now that I look at it again, maybe your poll isn’t as bad as I originally felt, but there really isn’t an option that I want to pick. I think it really is just that I don’t think it would make me want to trade Monta, and I would be happy, but suicide is just a loaded issue in our society, and experience I have had with knowing people who have taken their own lives kinda takes away the humor that i think you were going for.
by freerandolph on Oct 29, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I see what you mean. Suicide is not normally a happy topic, although it seems to be a recurring theme in our discussions about how bad the Warriors have been. I’m prone to hyperbole to make things more interesting and my sense of humor can be a bit crass at times.
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
I changed the poll, so it’s a little more light hearted… sort of.
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
I didn't answer the poll
but I’m still cracking up… it’s all about the cheese grater…
Anyway… if Monta can shoot like he’s started off consistently and cut in shots in half when he’s not feeling it (like tonight)…… and switch off pt-assist double-doubles with Steph…. He might be able to and help the team at the same time.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
When I saw the title to your post(Nats) it brought up my worst fears about Monta.
However ,since it is Saturday and we have the hindsite of last nights game it looks like all is well! I havent been a Monta homer or hater and as all the trade Monta bashing was going on this summer have felt that we have a unique talent here and should wait and see how he plays with this new team reality. Game 1 scared me a bit…couldnt help but wonder if he was going to ball hog/chuck on a off night? Game 2 was a revelation. Monta wasnt feeling it and doled out the assists and team play as well as some defense. Monta is actually looking like a leader. Next step for him is to keep some of his game 2 effort going even when he is feeling it.
I think Al was trying hurt the Warriors with this Monta scoring champ crap. The worst thing that could happen to this team would be if that startement got into Monta’s head.
by Only In Fairfax on Oct 30, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I seriously hope that if Monta becomes the scoring champ, it will be on efficient shooting. I believe half of his shots last Wednesday were assisted? I can live with that haha.
by Prince.Charming on Oct 29, 2010 7:02 PM PDT reply actions
"While Al Harrington is an idiot, I think this is an interesting claim. "
Lol,that was hilarious for some reason.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Oct 29, 2010 10:51 PM PDT reply actions
I worry that the desire to be scoring champ might go to Monta's head and make him start forcing shots.
I’ve been really delighted with how he’s not forcing them so far this year.
yeah
he’s made very good decisions in both games. Double-doubling on assists tonight is a very promising sign in that regard.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Yeah, I’d much rather see that than a 30 point game and inefficient shooting. Nobody wants to see that junk. I’m very happy with his performance against the Clippers. That was one of this best passing games ever. A great job.
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
I'm am very very very happy with that game and very very very glad that it happened
It really does show that Monta is maturing. I totally agree that the desire to be scoring champ could go to his, or any player’s (for that matter), head. Since he has a history of scoring a lot, but inefficiently, I am actually much more impressed by the game last night than the one before. Monta will have nights when he is hot, and we will all love him taking a lot of shots, like on opening night. But last night, it seemed to me that Monta read his own team (who was hot, and what the team needed), the defense (not forcing passes and taking what they gave him), and read himself (what the team needed from him, and how he could fit into the flow of the game) well. Monta was effective and went with the flow of the game instead of just resolving to score as much as he could no matter what was happening.
by freerandolph on Oct 30, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Monta Ellis became the ninth guard in league history to shoot at least 60 percent from the field in a single month after making 60.2 percent of his shots in February, 2008.
Don’t forget that he did that on 26ppg, too. 20+ ppg on that type of shooting percentage is amazing.
I believe Monta will pick up where he left off in 07-08 and become an efficient player again now that he trusts Curry and has a healthy team around him.
In 08-09, Monta was out for half the season and when he finally healed up he needed time to get his game back. He wasn’t the same.
In 09-10, the Warriors had the 2nd most player injuries in the history of the NBA and Monta wasn’t used to carrying an injured team like that.
The past two seasons were setbacks. Monta was always an efficient player, it’s just that his mo-ped injury set him back one season and then he was forced to chuck shots last season as an attempt to make up for injured players. The 10-11 season is perfect for him to get back on track from 07-08 because of Curry and Lee helping to take pressure off of him, resulting in Monta playing more conservative.
As for the scoring title, I doubt he’ll get it. There will be nights where Curry will be scoring 30+ points and Monta will have to defer to it. The backcourt is such a high scoring tandem. Expect David Lee to step up on offense and have 20+ point scoring nights, too.
by Precise Films Productions on Oct 30, 2010 1:38 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Don’t forget that he did that on 26ppg, too. 20+ ppg on that type of shooting percentage is amazing.
I don’t know the exact numbers for the other guards shooting 60%, but I think no one comes close to Monta. The guy just blew up that month. I don’t see why we can’t see great things like that coming from him this year, too. If he averages 26 ppg efficiently and is 10th in the league in scoring, Warriors fans will be stoked, and they should be.
Nobody wants to see the Monta from last year winning a scoring title. That would be sad. I say, Monta from 2008 and 25 ppg like numbers are the way to go. (Give or take, whatever works for us to win).
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
In 09-10, the Warriors had the 2nd most player injuries in the history of the NBA and Monta wasn’t used to carrying an injured team like that.
I think this is doing a disservice to both Monta’s growth as a player and to SMart’s job coaching.
The simple truth is that Monta refused to pass to the ball to open players who were very better than he was at putting the ball in the basket on a per-shot basis, and instead took dumb circus shots.
That he played like that is entirely consistent with the personality he displayed in the preseason, starting with his “no way” comment about Curry. He talked like a guy who didn’t want to share the ball, and he played like a guy who didn’t want to share the ball.
WHen you’re talking about not passing to 3-pt shooters, and your team has two of the best three-point shooters in the league, really, the “carrying an injured team” argument loses any semblance of merit.
I recognize that there’s a fanboy mentality here that doesn’t want to hear any criticism of our players, and wants to make excuses for their poor performance, but I’ve got to call shenanigans. Monta was a lousy player last year. We were better off without him, despite his immense talent (which nobody ever doubted).
Maybe the unselfishness of his teammates has rubbed off on him. Maybe he looked at his numbers as said, “Wow, me shooting a ton didn’t work.” Maybe he heard the criticisms and looked hard as his game.
But “he wasn’t doing anything wrong last year – just trying to carry an injured team” – sorry, that doesn’t fly.
by Ronaldinho on Oct 30, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
For the life of me, I cannot understand...
Why people continue to doubt Monta… he’s a unique talent with incredible skills. We should not trade him under any circumstances, not even for Dwayne Wade or anybody of that caliber. Him and Curry could be in a league of their own as far as scoring efficiency goes, this season. Highest scoring backcourt in the NBA.
On trade talks for Igoudala, I think the Warriors should wait a couple months and see how Dorell Wright does. This kid looks like he could be a dynamic scorer / defender. Huge upgrade over Maggs. But if the deal is right (Rad and Gadzurics’ contracts + some change for Igoudala), then you have to pull the trigger. Imagine that.
ot even for Dwayne Wade or anybody of that caliber
Not even for LeBron or Howard?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Oct 30, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats just idiotic...
If we could trade him for Dwayne Wade or someone of his caliber we should not hesitate to do it. No one of his caliber will be offered for Monta, of course, because that would be such an incredible steal for the Warriors…
by freerandolph on Oct 30, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Durant will be the scoring champ
The sad part about this, is that around the 10 minute mark in the 4th quarter of the Houston game, I said to myself, I bet someone’s gonna go on the site and post something about Monta’s brilliance and how he’s poised to be one of the best in the league. He had a good game. Maybe 15 games later you’ll post something about his shot at an MVP, or Lee being the next Rodman.
I specifically said Durant will be the scoring champ. I never said Monta would be, nor did I even make a prediction that he’ll be great this year. Perhaps you ought to read more carefully and also not be such a stick in the mud.
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
Eh, I stopped reading after “Can Monta be the scoring champ this year?”. But I went back, and I’m still sorta having trouble figuring out “what effect Monta’s improved scoring will have on the team”…. Oh, wait, we’ll be a better offensive team! Who would’ve thought?
Point is, this fanpost (fanshot) was much more predictable than any candidate to win the scoring crown.
So you have something against the article, because it was predictable. Well, he did score 45 efficiently in one game and a few days before, had a similar offensive pre-season explosion. Smart’s comments also seemed to suggest that Monta would have a great season, as well as Al Harrington’s remark. I suppose reason is quite predictable, as this is a reasonable article to write given the last couple of weeks.
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
Phil Jackson has said the same thing
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Harrington showing love for Monta
:)
PFortyy :)
'11 Champs!
I'm indifferent
It’d be cook if he got it. I’d be happy for him and Warriors (as usually it’s a sign of you being a playoff team) BUT it’s not my top priority. If we win with Monta getting 19, 6,6 I’ll be just as happy as if we win with him getting 30, 3, 4
whatever leads to wins is what I want
Period.
by Uwe Blog on Oct 31, 2010 9:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
In case you haven’t seen this: Monta is the scoring champ after 4 games.
Durant appears to be in a slump. Monta is shooting over .500. I wrote the above diary kind of tongue-in-cheek, but Monta is really looking awesome. What if he really did become the scoring champ? That would be awesome, if he does it the way he’s been doing it so far.
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
Funny how the only time you ever hear Monta's name on national coverage is when they're talking about D Rose.
Monta’s chances of getting the scoring title could be intriguingly accelerated by a prolonged Curry injury (knock on wood), so really, this isn’t impossible. This post could get a sea of rec’s as the season goes on. It’s doubtful, bet seriously anything could happen.
Cut.
Rose is one of the fastest in the NBA. I'd say Monta is right up there, but Rose will get more recognition because we play on the WC.
WC means later time slots unless you start winning or your team’s name is the Lakers.
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Monta as a scoring champ
Monta Ellis will become a scoring champ once he gets a very consistent outside jumper going. He needs to improve in that aspect of his game in order to increase his productivity in offense from nearly 25 ppg to nearly 30 ppg. He can always rely on his agility and quickness to get easy/difficult buckets, but smarter defenders will take that opportunity away from him. He is still not a true PG due to his superhuman ability to drive to the rack at a frenetic pace and still make difficult shots. It would be best for Stephen Curry to take responsibility as the full-time PG and let Monta flourish as an undersized 2-guard.
And let’s not forget that he still needs to significantly improve on his ballhandling skills…
by Missing Barry on Nov 8, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions

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