RECAP: Golden State Warriors 127, Los Angeles Clippers 87 - Jeremy Lin Fever, The Redemption of Monta Ellis, and The Beastly Blake Griffin!
Okay, okay, I know it was only one preseason game. I know that it doesn't count. I know that for much of the game we were playing against the reserves of a losing NBA team. Having said that, lets go ahead and let some of the things that happened last night be as important as we wish they were. We will ignore sample size, lose all perspective, and say goodbye to reasonable analysis. In other words let's enjoy this, not as a meaningless game, but as a celebration of new beginnings and second chances. Let's Jump!
The Fresh New StyleSo I arrived at the game late in the first quarter. I came with three buddies that aren't really Warriors fans, so making the opening tip was secondary to grabbing some cheap eats and loading up on refreshments before being held hostage by the Oracle concession prices. As we rolled in everyone was impressed by the sharp new court and unis. This just didn't look like any Warriors team we'd seen before, and that is a good thing. I still have a few nit-picky complaints about the new logo and jerseys (font... ugh) but overall it was good to see the new look Warriors with a, uh... new look.
The Redemption of Monta Ellis
To me Monta has seemed like a changed man. He showed up early to training camp saying all the right things, and showing the kind of leadership and humility that even the most optimistic Monta fan couldn't have expected. He seems to have replaced delusions of grandeur ("I’m going to say LeBron James [third], he can do it all, pass, score, defend, block shots. No. 2, I would have to say, me. I can do a whole lot of things: defend, score, make passes, do whatever I need to do.") with a more realistic self image and a better understanding of what he needs to do to be successful ("I see now that I have to play the two (shooting guard). I have to play the bigger guards, and I’m cool with that.").
If you squint it kinda looks like Kobe playing on a Sunday a couple years back, Right?
Now he finally had the chance to show us on the court, and while I'll be quick to admit that my analysis from the seats at Oracle can be somewhat lacking, he definitely impressed me. His numbers were great with 22pts 4ast 2stl in 28 minutes, going 8-11 from the field including (GASP!!) 4-4 from beyond the arc. But it wasn't just the gaudy efficiency that we've all been wishing for; it was the poise and expanded skill-set he showed. Sure, It could have just been a hot shooting night, a clustering of data points, or forgiving rims, but Monta was railing the three-ball. He only took four, but they included some tough ones, and with the confidence he showed in his shot it definitely looked like he had spent the summer putting in work. Two of his threes in particular impressed me. Both times he was coming of a high pick with the ball in his hands. This is a situation that we say again and again back when Monta was Monta. He would use that high pick to get a bit of seperation and then out of respect for his speed and ability to penetrate, the defense would suck in leaving him the wide open 18 footer which he would drill repeatedly. Well, now it would seem he can make that same play from beyond the three point line. A few years back Monta looked like he lacked the strength to consistently get the ball to the rim from anywhere outside of 20ft, but last night he was draining long threes off the dribble while moving laterally, and they had plenty of arc on them.
Overall he played within himself, picked his spots to be aggressive, didn't force his offense, and seemed to but in a good effort on defense against Gordon and Foye. He basically fit the description of what every Warrior fan has been saying we would need out of Monta this year. Well done sir. Keep it coming.
The Beastly Blake Griffin
I've never been all that good at watching a guy play college ball and projecting how he might do in the pros. Admittedly I'm not a huge fan of the college game, so the differences in style, rules, size, and athleticism are just too much for me to navigate with any confidence. Now it didn't take a professional scout to see that Blake Griffin was extremely talented and had the tools you need to make an impact in the league, but I was still very much in a wait-and-see mindset about Griffin heading into the game last night. Well, it didn't take more than a couple minutes of watching him out there to see that he belongs in this league. Not only that he belongs, but that he is here to make an impact. Looking at the competition, I have to think that he is head and shoulders above any of the other guys in the hunt for rookie of the year. He just seems to ready to come out and contribute in a big way night in and night out. Last night he was rebounding with authority, scoring with power and grace, and putting consistent pressure on the Warriors big-men who (not surprisingly) didn't have any way of slowing him down.
This teams interior defense was definitely a concern coming into this game, and I'm still just as worried. On the bright side, the perimeter D looked much improved.
One R, Two L's. Dorell Wright is About to Be Known
Many of the well respected posters here came out quickly to praise the signing of Dorell Wright this offseason. Based mostly on his rate stats and frame, Dorell looked like the kind of player that is primed for a break-out season. There were still some questions about him as a player, but after watching him last night I can't seem to think of what they are...
Dorell using his length to get to a loose ball and start the break.
16pts 6reb 4ast 1stl 1blk 0tov in 27 minutes. Not to mention what looked to me to be some of the better perimeter defense I've seen from a wing in a Warriors jersey since... uh, since... well lets just say he looked better than anyone we've seen the last couple years. He looks to be just the kind of all-around player that should fit right in to this starting line-up. The team shouldn't need to run any plays for him to be effective. Just run him out there and watch him defend, rebound, move the ball, hit the three when open, and get out on the break. Yes please. I could kiss Larry Riley right now. With all the hype of this years free agency Dorell Wright could be the best value signing of the summer.
Jeremy Lin Fever
On a night where seemingly everything went right for the Warriors, Jeremy Lin's late game appearance was easily the most fun part of the game. It was great to hear the crowd get behind the local kid so completely, yet not take the moment too seriously. It doesn't get much less meaningful than the fourth quarter of a 40 point blowout preseason game, but the moment Lin took the court there was somewhat of a tension and excitement that transcended the reality that there was so little at stake for these teams. Suddenly the drama all focused on the roster's 12th man having an opportunity to prove that not only does he belong in this league, but that he deserves to play. I'm not sure how much his 7pts 3reb 2ast 1stl did to impress Coach Smart, but in that moment in the stands it felt like a Disney movie. You could feel the entire arena pulling for the kid, and he should be proud of the way he played in his 10 minutes of action.
That was fun! Is the Giants game over?
These people are about to be pretty bummed.
The night would have ended all swell and dandy if immediately after the game the score of the Giants game wasn't flashed up on the scoreboard. What!?!? They gave up the lead? We headed over to one of the bars in the upper level to see if they still had the game on, and we found that a bunch of other W's fans had the same idea. We got there just in time to watch a double play send the crowd into a chorus of groans. Then right around the time someone from the Oracle staff said they would be turning off the TVs it became unclear whether the huge crowd was loudly booing her or the home run that was putting the Braves ahead 5-4 in the top of the 11th right over her shoulder... Poor lady. It was never going to be a popular announcement, but that was really bad timing.
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Sorry it took so long.
I was hoping to get this up earlier today, but life didn’t cooperate.
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Nice post!
I was sitting in 212 and even from my seat, I could see the difference in the team chemistry/non-ball hoggedness. My big points were:
1. perfectly ran fastbreaks which weren’t rushed, but actually showed patience and b-ball IQ
2. Monta shooting when open and again not rushing or pushing when not needing to.
3. J-Lin is going to be awesome to watch this season. Great positioning on both sides of the floor to fill his stats with boards, steals.
4. D. Wright should be our starting 3. If he isn’t, I hope it’s because Reggie Williams has been absolutely tearing it up. B. Wright isn’t ready to start yet.
5. Vlad should retire.
6. More plays need to be ran to Beans down low. If he can’t finish, he’ll draw attention so he can drop dimes to Lee.
I’m surprised I wasn’t in your last picture cause I was right there watching with the crowd. lol, everyone was so pissed when Ankiel hit that homerun.
We'll miss you Frown-Face Randolph. "You came, you cried, you almost conquerred."
Thanks!
Great post. Wish I could have been there.
Its so tempting to get excited…
by andrisBthousand on Oct 9, 2010 11:37 PM PDT reply actions
Beadrins
needs to work on not committing so many fouls!
If Monta can improve his 3pt %, look out!
I love the ball movement.
Well done
One R, Two L’s. The new “Monte” circa 2007
The new Monte Ellis, Brandon Wright, Andris Biedrens, Mickeal Pietrus, Corey Magette, Steven Jackson, Marco Bellinelli, Rony Turiaf, Kelena Azabuike, Epke Udoh…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Oct 10, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lin's minutes were meaningful to Jon Scheyer.
He was cut yesterday. Harvard 1, Duke 0.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
U just stated everything I did in my Observation fanshot. I noticed u mentioned Monta and not Steph because Monta had the better game. And Larry Riley is a genius for the Dorell signing. I cant think of a better SF free agent that would have fit in better not named Lebron. Just wonder why Lee and Curry didnt show the pick n roll.
Monta did have a better game
Compared to Monta of 09-10, hence the “redemption” of Monta.
by Badly Browned on Oct 10, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
U just stated everything I did in my Observation fanshot.
… with the added bonus that OM’s observations were written to spur interesting, open discussion, rather than push his own personal opinions or agenda. They were also prefaced by the disclaimer that they were based on a one-game sample size. And they were presented in clear, pleasant-to-read sentences, rather than bulleted fragments of something resembling English.
Just sayin’…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Oct 10, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here u go with this agenda stuff again. U right i do have an agenda. And that agenda is to state what i seen at the game from a unbiased point of view. And i accomplished that agenda. I havent seen anybody who actually went to the game say Steph had a better game than Monta and that they were more impressed with what Steph did than what Monta did. Yet when i say it i have a axe to grind against Steph. Guys who were watching Jenna Jameson’s greatest hits friday night are telling me about the game i seen friday night. Funny.
You don't think Curry had a great game too?
I mean sure, he turned the ball over way too much, but it was a somewhat sloppy preseason game so I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. Why pit Monta vs. Steph? I say the backcourt looked great and there is reason to be excited.
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by olympicmike on Oct 10, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I havent seen anybody who actually went to the game say Steph had a better game than Monta and that they were more impressed with what Steph did than what Monta did.
Neither have I. I don’t think anyone has ever suggested that Curry had a better game. They both had great games; Monta’s was probably a bit better (zero TOs was particularly impressive). Of course, no one seems to be turning this meaningless preseason game into a kind of a perverse one-game competition between Monta and Curry other than you. For you to inject it into the discussion here (“I noticed u mentioned Monta and not Steph because Monta had the better game”), together with another out-of-left-field Jenna Jameson reference suggests that, yes, you have some kind of axe to grind. Only you can say for sure what the nature of that axe is.
Shall we summarize?
1. Monta had a better preseason game v. the Clips than Curry.
2. Curry had a good game too (108% true shooting is pretty decent).
3. Monta, based not just on this game but on his general demeanor this offseason, seems poised to improve on last season’s poor performance.
4. Not that it’s relevant or appropriate here, but just so we’re clear: Curry is almost certainly a better, more valuable player than Monta, by almost any statistical or anecdotal measure. This value seems to be reflected in the esteem with which he is held by Lacob and Riley.
5. Point #4 doesn’t mean Monta is a bad player, or held in low esteem by the organization.
6. To turn every post-game recap into a “Curry v. Monta” debate is pretty lame.
Is here anything specific in that set of observations you have an issue with, or do you prefer to keep taking aim at straw men?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Oct 10, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
(zero TOs was particularly impressive
That was Dorell, Monta had 2 TOs.
by Badly Browned on Oct 10, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
If u go back to my fanshot I never pitted Curry against Monta. I simply said Monta had a impressive game and him and Lee are the team captains and I was accused of having something against Curry for not mentioning him in my observations.
People who say that stuff are ridiculous
It is possible to like both players
by tafkasam on Oct 10, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why should anyone have to go back to your fanshot? This is Mike’s diary, not yours; and you chose to pollute it with your lame Curry v. Monta carping.
But since you keep whining, OK, I’ll go back to your fanpost. As you know, I was the one who first noted that it sounded “a little bit like you have an axe to grind.” I wasn’t the only one who noticed it. As Rev Randy points out below, the comment wasn’t based on the diary alone but on your “history of overpraising Monta.” I made that amply clear when I called you out.
I still think it’s odd that (1) Curry was the one starter you chose not to praise in any way, except to say he made a bunch of open jumpers that you expected him to make, and that he was only open because the defense was so focused on Monta; (2) in your so-called “observations about the game,” you felt compelled to point out that Monta and Lee (not Curry) are the team captains; and (3) based on this one game, you felt confident enough to say that “Monta is the primary ballhandler again.”
As I noted in the thread, if your intent really was merely to observe a few specific things about the game, rather than tout Monta’s overall superiority to Curry, I apologize. I still have my doubts, but only you can say for sure.
More importantly, as people have said in this thread and that one: this Curry v. Monta stuff is tired and ridiculous. I’m over it. Are you?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Oct 10, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure Monta had a "better game"
but he had a more visible one, particularly early. Part of it is expectation level – because we’ve had major questions about Monta, and not Steph. Steph’s shooting was astonishing, but that wasn’t something that grabbed your attention – I had no idea he’d shot that well until after the game.
What I did notice about Steph’s game was his confidence level and swagger. Not outrageous or in your face, but the attitude really good point guards have. Not “I’m going to beat you” but “we’re going to beat you”, if that makes any sense. It felt like he was the point, even when Monta brought up the ball. I’d say that two of his turnovers were overconfidence/careless, but he’s also ahead of the rest of the team in terms of game-readiness. Based on watching Lee’s face on offensive sets, I don’t think there should be any question that the team knows where their bread and butter are coming from.
Watching Lee was interesting. He’s not used to playing with this level of talent around him, and he wasn’t even slightly stretched offensively. Neither was Dre.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
U just stated everything I did in my Observation fanshot.
I didn’t see that yet. I’ll be sure to check it out.
I noticed u mentioned Monta and not Steph because Monta had the better game.
It wasn’t about who had the better game so much as it was about who was the more interesting story. Curry had a great game, but turned the ball over way too much, which isn’t really a new story for him IMO. Monta came out and showed me something I haven’t seen in a while. His attitude and performance have been very promising, and I’m much more excited about him as a player than I was a few weeks ago.
That doesn’t mean I think any less of Curry though. I don’t see them as competitors, so I can praise one without knocking the other.
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by olympicmike on Oct 10, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
No what im saying is that in my fanshot I did not mention Curry at all and somebody said I had a agenda for not mentioning Curry and mentioning Monta. Thats all. And i see in your thread u didnt mention him neither and yet u get no accusations of being biased. I guess I have a few guys that just dont like my posts on here.
Curry at all and somebody said I had a agenda for not mentioning Curry and mentioning Monta.
olympicmike doesn’t have a history of overpraising Monta Ellis. One post does not make it an agenda. It’s repeatedly doing something that does.
I must look like a dork.
by Reverend_Randy on Oct 10, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Monta Ellis is one of the top 5 best players in the league.
And Posey is having amother great game.
You're the worst Al Capone
by JohnnyDangerously on Oct 10, 2010 10:29 AM PDT reply actions
Well...
You did follow my instructions pretty well:
We will ignore sample size, lose all perspective, and say goodbye to reasonable analysis.
;-)
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by olympicmike on Oct 10, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
In all seriousness
He does look like a different person. Just happier/more motivated. And that alone could be what changes his game from last year to what he’s capable of.
Yeah
I want to continue to preface these impressions with the fact that this is only one preseason game, but he’s saying and doing all the right things. When you have a guy like Monta who clearly has the talent necessary to be a very good player, but has struggled with shot selection and defensive focus, a change in attitude can make a big difference. We’ll see if he can keep it up.
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by olympicmike on Oct 10, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
What I did like, is exactly what you said
He played with in himself. As opposed to deciding he is the next Kobe and putting up 300 shots. Though with the new front court, it might even look better because we should be able to get offensive rebounds and easy put backs.
Oh and that three point shot is looking nice. Hope he keeps shooting it well, cause I am pretty confident he’ll continue his trend from end of last year (taking 3 to 5 a game)
I like what I see!!
We’re talking the game now no more crap about fatso and the so called ownership we once had…my interest level is back on the rise and the frustration has left. I actually believe this team has a chance to be a playoff team and make us feel a whole lot better. Nice!!!
I like play thus far
still wondering about Udoh and B. Wright! Can they do the job at small forward?
great game. i was there for the 2nd half. for the most part all the guys at least did what i expected. i agree that monta and dorrell were stand outs. man monta hit some tough shots with the hand right in his face, completely unfazed.
dorrell has this weird jumper, for a clearly athletic guy, he’s a bit stiff. everytime i watched him shoot, i thought his shot would be a bit short, but he made it in. kid can play.
jeremy lin man. i felt like we were in a playoff game! hah when he first got on the court and got the ball in his hands he had that awful TO, i thought he was going to be overwhelmed by the pressure, but he came too. He isn’t the best ball handler or shooter, but the guy can pentrate, finish. the beauty of his game is that for the most part you can tell he just lets it come to him. Knows when to attack, knows when to dish. He just really knows how to fit in. after his And 1 layin, david Lee almost pushed the poor kid over congratulating him over. Awesome.
that aaron miles, #11, i dont have too much to say about him. well, maybe i do, but it wasn’t pretty… I’m not sure in the 4th quarter if Smart was telling him to ISO to save our 40 point lead…. but i dont know why they weren’t practicing their half court sets.
overall, my favorite thing to watch was how they pushed the ball up the court. Literally EVERYONE, all 5 of them were off and running. warriors basketball has always been up pace, but it literally felt like any 5 of them could’ve scored on the break. I didn’t always feel that way with Turiaf, Hunter, Rad, Radmanovic out there.
Attitude out there was so upbeat. Night and day from last year. The team clearly expects big things, so so will I
This was the most enjoyable story on this game that I've read
which, for my money (or time), is what it should be all about. rec’d.

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