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Warriors Practice Day Links: Keith Smart, Dorell Wright interviews. Lacob and Guber on Chronicle Live.

The topics after practice include waiting to put Monta back in the game, missing Lee/Amundson/Udoh, and Dorell Wright. Also, a couple of update articles on David Lee's elbow. Plus, Lacob and Guber on Chronicle Live.

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Practice Videos

Keith Smart after practice.

Dorell Wright after practice.


Other Stuff

- After the 2nd surgery to clean out the elbow, Lee is headed towards full recovery. He'll stay in the hospital for several days with antibiotics to make sure the infection is completely gone.
Rusty Simmons: Dr. explains elbow issues for Warriors' Lee
Marcus Thompson II: Lee still in hospital but headed to full recovery

Chronicle Live: Lacob and Guber, part 1.

Chronicle Live: Lacob and Guber, part 2.


Notes

- The Warriors have a "concentration drill" which tests how a player psychologically reacts to pressure. The drill is to make 10 shots in a row from a certain spot, and the pressure builds as the player gets to the last few shots. Keith Smart watches how the players react to that pressure and use it to judge how they might react in a game. Some players tense up towards the last few shots, some players concentrate more, etc.

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he has nvr really been a good FT shooter

but i think the pressure kinda gets to him, because he is the one thats suppose to carry this team

Haters Gonna Hate

by Wreckonized on Nov 16, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have the stats in front of me, but I think his 4th quarter shooting as a whole is a little worse than quarters 1-3. I think that as he gets more experience being “the man,” he will grow into the role and carry his 1Q swagger to the 4Q as well.

"probably get some stitches too! you have a good night! go warriors!" - david lee

by bradyk2 on Nov 16, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions  

That stat could also be related

to the excessive minutes he has had to log over his career. He (like anyone would be) is noticeably less effect when he is gassed.

Have the rains let up yet?

by FloorBurn on Nov 17, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Why does Ellis only have a .63 fourth quarter free throw pct.

probably from fatigue, the pressure shouldn’t matter by game’s end everyone is all warmed up and in the flow.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 17, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Lacob and Guber are awesome. They are really saying the right things.

Yes ,I would agree. Son on operations staff notwithstanding. They do say the right things. I like the concept of proceeding step by step with on going evaluation.

I am amazed Gruber bought all those minor league teams. Didnt realize that there was anyone out there who would do something like that? I just assume that minor league would not be profitable or worth the trouble. Must of had something to do with wanting a major.

Come to think of it you dont see many business people wanting a team like the Warriors with all the headaches and the scrutiny of rabid fans like us. Must be the glamour and love of media attention Ha!

by Only In Fairfax on Nov 17, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

what Guber saw in minor league beisbol

was an under-exploited fan and revenue base ; he probably took a good look at income and population distribution demographics. The priority he put on marketing is reflected in whom he put in charge - the former nba exec who succeeded w. several organizations, Spoelstra, who sold out Por’s arena year after year (his son Eric grew up in Por). Many minor league cities have modern, clean stadia and are far from bush league - Por, Louisville, Sac , S.Jose, to name just a few.

Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)

by the.monk on Nov 17, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

what Guber saw in minor league beisbol was an under-exploited fan and revenue base

haha, so he set out to exploit them? real nice . we’re next?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 17, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

expect dramatic changes in the style and substance

of the fan promotions and sideline entertainment/spectacle. It’s Guber’s new toy, after all.

Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)

by the.monk on Nov 17, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

very good points

I’m kinda curious what we’ll get, but I do expect you’re right. Also – yeah, some of the minor league baseball facilities are gorgeous.

Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.

by Rasputin10 on Nov 17, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

expect dramatic changes in the style and substance of the fan promotions and sideline entertainment/spectacle

the substance is the games, the rest is just distraction or maybe diverting the attention from the suck of a losing season?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 17, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

50% price reductions on seats and beer

qualifies as substance in terms of marketing— sustaining a high quality of hoops and winning enough games to reach the post season might remain ideals rather than substance for another season or two (after that, hollow assurances little different than the predecessor’s). We have little evidence, positive or negative, whether the new owners can live up to their aspirations.

Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)

by the.monk on Nov 17, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

sustaining a high quality of hoops and winning enough games to reach the post season might remain ideals rather than substance

it’s not the results that matter, the game is the substance. If they are true to the game I can’t complain. but i’m not gonna be swayed by promises made or sideshow productions.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 17, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Man I love hearing DWright talk

This guy get’s me pumped for some reason. What a great find and what a great fit for this team. I’d love to see him work on going harder to the rim more often as well as finishing better. Loved his scouting of Ben Gordon and Charlie V. Dude is a smart player (though the pump fake is kinda getting out of hand)

I really hope we can keep this core together for a while…

by JR Repertoire on Nov 16, 2010 11:13 PM PST reply actions  

Yup, Having Dorell takes away the thought that we should have drafted Amino.

Watching was happening with DLee out, BWright not stepping up etc. reinforces the logic of drafting Udoh and the Admunson added. Good moves there Riley.

by Only In Fairfax on Nov 17, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Just saw the Lacob-Guber interview

and it seemed to me that Ol’ Greg Papa was trying, as he dropped the “back when I used to call Warriors games” line twice, to not so subtly interject himself as a potential candidate for the Warriors broadcast team should the Lacob-Guber ownership group want to dissolve its relationship with one Bob Fitzgerald. I recall Papa had beef with Cohan’s assertion that he was fraying his commitment to the team’s broadcast by taking on a commentating role with Raiders in combination with his duties to the A’s and Warriors. Papa was also none too pleased about his belief that Bob Fitzgerald had played a surreptitious role in Cohan’s decision to both relieve him of his duties and install Fitzgerald as the play-by-play T.V. commentator. If Papa is wrangling for his old job, I would unequivocally throw my support behind him. It’s not so much that I dislike Fitzgerald, as much as it is that I just like Greg Papa (shoot, I’d support Gus Johnson for the T.V. side if he was interested).

by fuller over bryant on Nov 17, 2010 11:46 AM PST reply actions  

I agree!

You beat me to the posting, but I agree with you 100%. I think Papa was angling to try to get his old job back. Despite Papa’s cheerful personality, I think he is still bitter over the whole Warriors situation and Fitz taking his job back in the day.

I wonder how Fitz and Papa interact with each other these days. I’m sure they must see each other in broadcast circles and around the Bay Area.

As someone who was young when Papa/Barnett were paired together, I hope Papa has matured a bit over the years. He used to talk over Barnett a lot during games. It would be good to see Papa and Barnett back together for a year or two. I think Barnett’s time may be up soon. He’s showing signs of aging and perhaps he’ll retire or be relived of his duties soon.

DCL
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by coach41 on Nov 17, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Barnett’s time may be up soon. He’s showing signs of aging and perhaps he’ll retire or be relived of his duties soon.

Why should he retire when he’s still the most knowledgeable guy on the air ?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 17, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Greg Papa was awesome when he annouced for the W's

As good as he is at raiders radio, he is just as good at basketball. I was very sad when he lost the gig years back. I would love to see Papa back at the mike.

by OmnipotentOne on Nov 17, 2010 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

PLEASE GOD NO GREG PAPA

by GrayDilla on Nov 17, 2010 12:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Time for a poll. Bet your in the minority on this one.

by OmnipotentOne on Nov 17, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Time for a poll.

 I’d rather have another former player like barnett ( except for a younger one to get an alternate viewpoint)

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 17, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I already get (more than) enough of Papa on Chronicle

by GrayDilla on Nov 17, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Which also brings up the fact that Papa couldn’t do both

by GrayDilla on Nov 17, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Barnett is color, Papa is play by play

If you have eyes and a TV you don’t need play by play, just Barnett’s comments are enough. Another knowledgeable ex player would be more useful than a cheerleading play by play guy.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 17, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Be careful what you wish for

There are some very bad ex players out there calling games.

"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."

Frank Zappa

by qin on Nov 18, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Papa's only virtue

is he isn’t Fitz.

Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.

by Rasputin10 on Nov 17, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

sold

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Nov 18, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

King was king

Papa and Fitz are good, but “Holy Toledo” Bill King was the best.

by John Will on Nov 19, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Papa and Barnett !

That would be a solid combo- DUMP FITZ !!!

Dr. Jeff

by JEFFSJAZZ on Nov 17, 2010 3:43 PM PST reply actions  

I like Lacob and Guber

Passion shows through but more it’s there bluntness.

by tafkasam on Nov 17, 2010 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

Show me a GM that doesn’t have a picture like that he doesn’t regret…

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Nov 18, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

a reprise could be in store

with Lacob’s professed fondness for ‘bouef’. Drafting for size has brought some of the most memorable blunders.

Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)

by the.monk on Nov 17, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Size is very valuable.

An average big is really valuable. It’s probably smart to stockpile young bigs in the draft, stash a few in Europe, put some in the d-league, etc.

by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 17, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

this makes me sad.

Mullin was my favorite player when I was young – so sad to see he didn’t do well as a GM. Curious to see where he ends up down the road.

by tjmax on Nov 17, 2010 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Warriors want a better chance to win…

… they gotta play Rancheria style.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Nov 17, 2010 6:13 PM PST reply actions  

Stay home

I hope the new owners are not considering moving the W’s out of Oakland.

by John Will on Nov 19, 2010 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

they have a binding lease agreement

and many things will change before it expires. The new mayor of Oaktown, for example (denied her my vote 3x on the ‘improved’ ballot), talks like she wants the beisbol team to stay. If the economy revives to the point that a major relocation seems feasible, the real estate and development costs for an SF site will correspondingly balloon — which is why the SF beisbol corporation (already co-sanguineous with comcast) into the conversation about a china basin facility.

Many sites in Oaktown would offer greater transportation accessibility to the GS constituency than those on the peninsula (paene insula, ‘almost island’ in latin, with the geographic, logistical isolation it brings). The ‘hood surrounding the present site is probably its major flaw. The area within half a mile north of the team’s practice facility show signs of reviving (Fox theatre was restored and re-opened); it is walking distance from a Bart hub, historic Oaksterdam, and has easy freeway access to three major conduits (580, 880, 24). The warehouse district north of Jack London Sq. has also revived with restaurants, pubs, and loft residences similar to Soma, and might be involved with the new mayor’s beisbol proposals.

Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)

by the.monk on Nov 19, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

...the SF beisbol corporation

(already co-sanguineous…) entered the conversation about a china basin facility.

Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)

by the.monk on Nov 19, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

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