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RECAP #13: Golden State Warriors 89, Los Angeles Lakers 117 — Quit Kicking Sand in Our Faces!

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Not much you can say about this one, beyond "[snivel snivel] the big bully, I'll get even some day!" When you leave Staples Center with Jeremy Lin and Jeff Adrien having notched your two most impressive performances, you know generous amounts of sand have been kicked in your faces. I don't think anyone in Warriors Nation expected to win this one, but it's still no fun to be toyed with like the skinniest dude on the beach. Even without David Lee, one would like to think that the Warriors, as an aspiring low playoff seed, would be capable of making the NBA champs work for a victory. Tonight, I'm not even sure anyone on the Lakers broke a sweat. I'd call it a scrimmage for them, but players work during scrimmages, right? This was a walk on the beach. Heck, not even a walk. This was a siesta on the beach. This was the Corona ad, where the Lakers were the dude lounging in the beach chair staring at his own feet and the Warriors were ... what? The beer? The lime? I mean, beer is fizzy and lime is tart, neither of which remotely describes the Warriors' performance tonight. Nay, the Warriors tonight were more like the gentle, balmy sea breeze.

Some more thoughts on the Bullies and Little Boys after the jump.

Star-divide

The Bullies.

Man, much as it pains me as a Warriors and Celtics fan to heap praise on these guys, I have to give props: the champs right now are a well-oiled Lamborghini rolling down the 405. I thought Father Time might catch up with them a bit this year — and he still could — but for now the bloom is still very much on the rose. Tonight it was all working: they shared the ball beautifully, scored efficiently, crashed the boards, and played suffocating D, both on the perimeter and at the rim.  After Monta tied the game at 8-8 with 8:15 left in the first quarter, it took them about 3 minutes of lightly revving the engine — a few defensive stops, a couple of Gasol bunnies, a couple of lovely Gasol feeds to Kobe and Artest, a Fisher layup and a Kobe dunk —to open up a 20-10 lead. At that point it was all over but for the sniveling.

All the cogs in the machine were clicking tonight. Kobe made up for a meh shooting night by crashing the glass (6 boards in 27 minutes), setting up his teammates (5 dimes), and not forcing the action (0 turnovers). Artest led the defensive suffocation, repeatedly getting in Monta's and Dorell's grills and kitchens and making it nearly impossible for them to cook. Odom was the ultimate Swiss army knife, on both ends: 15 efficient points, 10 boards, 3 dimes, 2 blocks. Fisher didn't do much, as always, but he stuck a couple of jumpers, spread the D, and made very few mistakes. Blake and Barnes, the new linchpins of a revamped bench, are looking like the best pair of reserves they've had in ages — an especially irritating development given that two of the Warriors' biggest needs right now (beyond clearing out the DL) are cool, steady backup veteran PG and a do-it-all wing who can stick the open 3. As the drunken flappers at Gatsby's party sang, "the rich get richer, and the poor get ... children."

Special praise, of course, needs to be heaped upon the shaggy head of Pau Gasol, who right now may be the most magical Barcelonan since Joan Miró and Antoni Gaudí were doing their thing 100 years ago. It's easy enough to get hyperbolic about him on a night where he drops 28 points on 10-10 fg, 8-8 ft, with 9 boards, 5 lovely dimes, 4 swats, 1 turnover, and 0 fouls. But this isn't purely reactionary: Pau Gasol may well be the best player in the NBA now, or at worst in a group with LeBron, Howard and Paul and no one else. And where the other dudes in that group have a wart and there (Paul's lack of length, Howard's lack of post moves, LeBron's lack of character) there are simply no flaws in Gasol game. He shoots like a guard, has a more lovely array of post moves than Kevin McHale, is the best passing big in the league, and oh-by-the-way is his team's defensive anchor. He's clearly the best player on the two-time defending champs; and — with all due respect to the Kobester — he's been that from the day he arrived in LA. 

It's all so good right now for the champs you kinda forget they're playing without Andrew Bynum, who's probably a Top 5 NBA center when healthy. Oy.

The Little Boys.

Lots of blame to spread around tonight. Curry was tentative and cold to start the game, as has been his annoying wont of late, and tonight Monta's A game wasn't there to fill the void. Indeed, before Monta fell on his hip at the start of the 3rd quarter and left the game for good, he had showed a couple of flashes of last year's "bad Monta": putting his head down and forcing the action, failing to get his teammates involved (though he did make one nice dish to Biedrins), turning the ball over. 1R2L Wright made one poor decision after another. Biedrins was a non-factor, doing little to slow the Gasol Express. Reggie "Potatohead" Williams followed up his first really impressive shooting of the night of the season with a 1-for-10. And of course ... Bad Vlad Radmanovic was as exquisitely terrible as ever. Every minute he plays I think I get another grey hair.

Coach Smart also deserves his share of heat, both for the lack of energy with which the players started the game, and the lack of a game plan that stood even a remote chance of defeating Goliath. With the Warriors depleted frontcourt, the Lakers' approach should have been obvious: force the ball inside on offense, crowd Ellis and Curry on defense. If there was a ever a game for the breakneck pace of Nellieball, this was it. Instead they started slow-as-Molasses Radmanovic, mostly walked the ball upcourt, moved the ball glacially, and at one point found themselves down 22-2 in the fast-break point column. Spry Young-Legged Warriors 2, Creaky Old Lakers 22. Ugh. Though I'm still basically thrilled to have Nellie and his shenanigans out of my life, tonight was a night where I have to think the ol' silver fox would have come up with a gameplan with a bit more flair and panache and élan than the tattered white flag of a scheme we dragged out last night.

As mentioned above, the only real positive on the floor was the "Electric Light Orchestra" bench combo of Jeff / Lin. I think Lin still lacks the handles and court vision of a true PG, and his outside shot remains (speaking kindly) a work in progress, but he showed more energy and spunk than anyone else on the team tonight. He took it to the rim, was a pest on D, and crashed the boards. Adrien, meanwhile, did his usual thing: set up camp under the rim, pushed people around, grabbed 10 boards in 26 minutes. The return of Lee and Amundson will likely banish him to the end of the bench, but till that fine day arrives, he should really be seeing more burn than he does. And Radmanovic, needless to say, should be seeing less.

One other positive, looking at the bigger picture: even at full strength, we're unlikely to beat the Lakers at Staples. Better to lose a game like this than a game against a cruddy team that we should normally win with the presence of Lee. Both of our away games against the Big Purple & Gold Machine are now crossed off the schedule. The Ws need to shake it off quickly, come out with vim and vigor tonight against Denver (last night's extended garbage time should help in that respect), and — channeling their inner Charles Atlas — get even some day. January 12th, 2011 at the Oracle, the sand gets kicked back. Book it.

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Viva España! It's all about Spain this year. Who's the awesomest Spaniard?
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The World Cup soccer team
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Pablo Picasso
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Brown

also had a great game and he’s putting up amazing numbers this year, and when then get Bynum back…
Jeez, it’s gonna be a bad year to be a Laker hater, all I can say is thank goodness for the Giants!

by Lew Ghost on Nov 22, 2010 10:00 AM PST reply actions  

Brown

most improved player for sure.

This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM

by disguy on Nov 22, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

What?

No Enrique Iglesias?

Shut up, just shut up. You had me at "cure for Cohan".

by Baygiant11 on Nov 22, 2010 10:08 AM PST reply actions  

No Enrique Iglesias?

or Sebastián Vizcaíno?

  always can count on Sleepy for some nice visuals in his reports.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 22, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

At least we don’t have to linger on this game long. C’mon Dubs, take down Denver!

by Missing Barry on Nov 22, 2010 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

We suck without D Lee

Plain and simple
We are way too thin at the 4 (and 5) right now

"Trade Radmanovic. We don’t even want nobody for you, we’ll let you go. Just get off our team".
-Mistah FAB

by Duby Dub Dubs on Nov 22, 2010 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

IT's pretty bad without Lee

But fact Lou, BWright and Udoh are out makes it worse

How do your top FOUR PFs all get hurt at same time?

by tafkasam on Nov 22, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Same way our top 4 big men got hurt at the same time last year (Andris, Turiaf, Randolph, Wright)….we’re the Warriors. Some powerful cosmic force clearly hates us.

by Missing Barry on Nov 22, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Can we blame Obama?

I did not see injuries like this during the Bush administration.

by tafkasam on Nov 22, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Can we remove BWright from that list?

BInjured is a piece of human glass. It should be the norm that he’s unavailable.

by GameSix on Nov 22, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Is there actual reason to think that his past injuries are predictive of future injuries?

by Missing Barry on Nov 22, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

Didn’t you read what I wrote? He’s made of glass. That has to be indicative of something.

by GameSix on Nov 22, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Cmon MB

He’s pretty soft. Some players just play through pain a lot easier than others.

by tafkasam on Nov 22, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Is he pretty soft? How do we know that? I mean, c’mon, it’s not like the injuries he’s had were of the “you can just play through it” variety. Almost all his injured time was due to one shoulder injury, right? Just seems to me people are just reacting to the fact that he’s been hurt in the past without giving it any more thought than that. Maybe they’re right, I honestly have no idea, it just seems to me it’s something where you need some actual medical knowledge to have any idea if it means anything or not…..

by Missing Barry on Nov 22, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

He is thin and not strong.

Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw

by JohnnyDangerously on Nov 22, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok. Maybe a valid point. Tayshaun Prince is pretty skinny and not strong, too. 6 straight years of 82 games played ain’t bad. On the other hand, there are guys like Marcus Camby, too. Kevin Durant’s been pretty durable, as was Kevin Garnett, but Stromile Swift? Not so much. If it does increase the likelihood of injury….how much do you think that would be? I’ve always wondered how much injuries are actually related to any traits of the individual compared to just a completely random thing.

by Missing Barry on Nov 22, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

At least three of the guys he mentioned have spent the majority of their careers at Brandan’s position. Seemed like about as fair and even-handed of a comment as you could make. As for this:

If it does increase the likelihood of injury….how much do you think that would be? I’ve always wondered how much injuries are actually related to any traits of the individual compared to just a completely random thing.

I think that would be an extremely interesting study to do, but it would require accurate weight and height measurements, which aren’t readily available. If they were, I’d like to see weight/height ratio compared with player durability to see if a beefier frame really does help you avoid injuries.

by olympicmike on Nov 22, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

How about instead of rejecting the whole thing, we try to figure out what it actually does tell us? It’s a huge pet peeve of mine when people try to simply dismiss an idea without actually discussing it.

by Missing Barry on Nov 22, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

has to be Cervantes

He’s the only one who foresaw windmill dunks.

He's a one-legged skateboarding card sharp who knows the secret of the alien invasion. She's a transdimensional belly-dancing cab driver from beyond the grave. They fight crime!

by Rasputin10 on Nov 22, 2010 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

… and the Warriors’ quixotic quest for a championship…

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Nov 22, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

although Dali did envision the Laker front line...

He's a one-legged skateboarding card sharp who knows the secret of the alien invasion. She's a transdimensional belly-dancing cab driver from beyond the grave. They fight crime!

by Rasputin10 on Nov 22, 2010 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

So....

Do we even bother trying to play “regular” ball without depleted lineup?

Seems to me our best chance of winning is to go Nellie Ball until Lee, Lou, and Udoh return. Will that mess with the transition from Nellie Ball to the motion offense we are trying to incorporate?

The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!

Mike Singletary: Doing the same thing week in and week out expecting a different result.

by Badly Browned on Nov 22, 2010 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

without = with our

Bah

The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!

Mike Singletary: Doing the same thing week in and week out expecting a different result.

by Badly Browned on Nov 22, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps

it might be worth trying Adrien to start next to Dre. It certainly can’t hurt. If Brandan is available, use him to back both bigs for a while, and Gadz. Oh, and bring Lin in for Steph in the Q2 rest period. You know, try actually rewarding the players who gave a productive effort last night.

I know – playing the guys who are performing the best is a radical concept. It means giving up traditions – the doghouse, overplaying your starters, tinkering with illusory “matchup advantages”. But if you don’t start there, it doesn’t matter at all what style you use.

He's a one-legged skateboarding card sharp who knows the secret of the alien invasion. She's a transdimensional belly-dancing cab driver from beyond the grave. They fight crime!

by Rasputin10 on Nov 22, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s bad PR now to play small because everyone blamed Don Nelson for the last two years of injured suckitude.

I’m not going down this rabbit hole with the Flat Earth Don Nelson Hater Guild again, but hopefully we can at least appreciate the value of playing mismatches and speeding up the tempo when your roster is hopelessly outclassed on a given night.

The galling thing about giving Vlad PT, is that this is exactly how he played last year:

He missed five games in January with the same injury before staggering through a five-game stretch in which he averaged three points and 1.2 rebounds, was called “disgraceful” by coach Don Nelson, and was told he couldn’t return until completely healthy.

play like a 1 man guy

by bloodsweatndonuts on Nov 22, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

except

going by WP48, Vladi is playing worse this year. In fact, of our 11 “active” players who aren’t rookies, the only one NOT having a worse year than last year is Monta. Even given Lee’s injury and a few other missed games, this should be a big red flag about the coaching. But, in line with the Spanish theme of this post, we’re probably just going to get more of Smrt and the running of the bulls***.

He's a one-legged skateboarding card sharp who knows the secret of the alien invasion. She's a transdimensional belly-dancing cab driver from beyond the grave. They fight crime!

by Rasputin10 on Nov 22, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, so I was being charitible by saying he's been exactly as bad as last year.

My bad. Not exactly. But still, my bad.

In fact, of our 11 "active" players who aren’t rookies, the only one NOT having a worse year than last year is Monta. Even given Lee’s injury and a few other missed games, this should be a big red flag about the coaching.

Observationally, I think this drop in production is due to him designing the offense to go away from the strength of his roster. Isolations, pick and roll, two-man games should be the lions share of the half-court sets. But hey, at least he’s constantly stalking up and down the sidelines and looking oh so very interested.

I actually like what he’s doing with relationship-building and the team seems to be rotating to the open man better on defense. I just have no idea why he decided to break the offense.

play like a 1 man guy

by bloodsweatndonuts on Nov 22, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed completely

And especially v. a team like the Lakers who we were never going to be able to bang inside with, especially without Lee. Heck even with Lee, Gasol and Odom’s size and length is going to bother him. But perhaps DWright’s ability to pull Gasol to perimeter might take Lakers a bit out of sync

by tafkasam on Nov 22, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe Smart stopped calling Nellie for advice

Because if this was still the case, Nellie would be telling Smart to bench Vlad indefinitely.

by Doctor Kajita on Nov 22, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s bad PR now to play small because everyone blamed Don Nelson for the last two years of injured suckitude.

I’m not going down this rabbit hole with the Flat Earth Don Nelson Hater Guild again, but hopefully we can at least appreciate the value of playing mismatches and speeding up the tempo when your roster is hopelessly outclassed on a given night.

The galling thing about giving Vlad PT, is that this is exactly how he played last year:

He missed five games in January with the same injury before staggering through a five-game stretch in which he averaged three points and 1.2 rebounds, was called “disgraceful” by coach Don Nelson, and was told he couldn’t return until completely healthy.

play like a 1 man guy

by bloodsweatndonuts on Nov 22, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

everyone blamed Don Nelson for the last two years of injured suckitude.

Sounds like a bit of a strawman, BSD. There are plenty of vocal Nellie supporters on this site and around the blogosphere (Feltbot and Atma Bro, among others, say hello). There are plenty of Nellie critics who don’t blame him for the “injured suckitude.” There are even, I suspect, a few Nellie critics who believe that the earth may be round. What fun would a rabbit hole be in a flat earth?

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Nov 22, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: What fun would a rabbit hole be in a flat earth?

As Gary St. Jean would say: “You’d have a heckava view”.

play like a 1 man guy

by bloodsweatndonuts on Nov 22, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Using the term "everyone" as one side of an argument would almost always technically be a strawman.

So yah, guilty as charged. If I only had a brain . . .

The point I was doing a poor job of making was that most fans blamed Nelson for a disproportionate amount of the suck when almost all of it was due to injuries. You are correct, most people did not in fact blame Nelson for the actual injuries but they did blame him for a lot of what was primarily caused by injuries.

Say what you want about Nelson, but I think we can all (all?) agree that he at least recognized that Vlad had ceased to not suck.

Smart isn’t not-smart, so why is he continuing to play Vlad? My unqualified, Flat-Earth-Grade, theory is that Vlad actually comprehends the nuances of Smart’s motion offense. He knows where to be and how to take advantage of the spacing. Unfortunately for the fans, this does us no good if the rest of the personnel does not grasp it completely (or is ill-suited for it) and Vlad continues to suck at almost every other aspect of offense and defense besides passing and ball-handling well for a PF.

play like a 1 man guy

by bloodsweatndonuts on Nov 22, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Completely agree

And it was my fear. Going big when your bigs suck doesn’t benefit you

by tafkasam on Nov 22, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

i read about the little boy too

honestly, im sure he was having fun that day

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by xpo276 on Nov 22, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

a couple of things I noticed last night. I was pretty drunk though so may be wrong:

Beans was way over-hedging on the pick and roll… every time it happened, Gasol got an easy layup because whoever was playing PF had no chance on the rotation.

Beans and Gadzuric playing together seemed to work quite well defensively. Could have just been because of who the lakers had on at the time, but it definitely was better than any other PF/C combo of the night, imho.

by soda pop SMASH on Nov 22, 2010 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

I didn’t mean relatively, I meant against the opponent, i.e. making good defensive plays

by soda pop SMASH on Nov 24, 2010 12:12 AM PST reply actions  

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