Warriors Game Day Links: Golden State Warriors 115 vs Memphis Grizzlies 109 - Warriors win the battle of the defenses
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 3, 2010 10:45 PM PDT
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Recap: RECAP #4: Memphis Grizzlies 109, Golden State Warriors 115 - Montazing!
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StoryStream: Warriors Remain Undefeated At Home, Beat Grizzlies 115-109
Grizzlies: Straight Outta Vancouver
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Recaps
Associated Press recap: Ellis sparks Warriors past Grizzlies | Photo Gallery
Sports Network recap: Warriors continue solid start with win over Grizzlies
Jonathan Okanes recap: Warriors take care of business against Memphis Grizzlies
Rusty Simmons recap: Monta Ellis' all-around game leads Warriors
Adam Lauridsen recap: Rest Easy (Warriors 115, Grizzlies 109)
Mike Massa recap: Rested Ellis scores 17 in fourth, carries Warriors to victory over Grizzlies
Feltbot recap: Playoff Bound: Warriors 115 Grizzlies 109
Pregame News
- Keith Smart wanted to save Curry for the long push ahead.
Jonathan Okanes: Warriors notebook: Coach Keith Smart takes cautious route, sits ailing Stephen Curry again
Pregame Videos
- No pregame videos found.
Postgame News
- Looking for his own style, Keith Smart will not use "the doghouse" as his coaching tool.
Monta Poole: Golden State Warriors coach Keith Smart abolishes the doghouse
- Warriors are still shooting 3s, but they're "better" 3s.
Matt Steinmetz: Warriors Taking More, Better Threes
- David Lee is still adjusting to having a great scorer in Monta playing alongside him.
Rusty Simmons: David Lee adjusts offensive approach with Warriors
- Rusty tidbits from the game.
Rusty Simmons: Warriors 115, Grizzlies 109 (Postgame)
- Matt looks at a few examples in Warriors history of how the first few weeks don't indicate how the season will go.
Matt Steinmetz: Not Buying into the Warriors' Nice Start
Postgame Videos
Jim interviews Reggie after the game.
Keith Smart at the podium.
David Lee in the locker room.
CSN recap, highlights.
Recap and highlights from nba.com's game page:
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Pretty Reverse
Ellis Slamming
Grizzlies vs. Warriors: Video recap
Postgame Quotes and Stuff from warriors.com recap
Keith Smart
On Monta Ellis:
"I said it at shootaround before the game, I don’t know what kind of game he is going to have. I want him to be the aggressive guy at first, and then if the flow takes him another way, he will read that. I felt that we needed a better pickup tonight, because we were limited and he was able to do that. Once again, a young man playing at a great level the whole training camp, preseason as well as the start of the regular season. He’s doing a great job."
On Dorell Wright:
"He’s in new territory now because he gets the chance to have a bit more freedom to make plays, and he’s learning how to do that within the framework of what we are trying to do. I still like the way he tries to defend, I still like the way he tries to set the tone and guard people. Rudy Gay made some incredible shots tonight and he had a hand in his face contesting his shots all the way through."
On The High Volume of Three Pointers Taken:
"If you look at how the threes are being taken, they are not being taken by coming down and pulling up and shooting. It’s coming off of dribble penetration. And dribble penetration brings the defenses in and then you've got to take those shots."
Monta Ellis
On Tonight's Game:
"We scrapped to the end. We got the win. Dorell played great tonight. Reggie, D. Lee, Andris, I mean pretty much everyone that came off the bench played well. That’s what we needed. We’re missing Stephen tonight and guys stepped up where we needed them tonight."
On Sitting During The First Part Of The Third Quarter:
"I wanted to be in there bad but at the same time it was coaches’ decision. He didn’t rush me so I just had to wait because I knew he was going to call me again. So I just had to wait until I got back into the game."
Dorell Wright
On Tonight's Game:
"I’m just taking comfort jumpers, things I work on everyday. The big guys and Monta (Ellis), you know those guys attract a lot of attention so they make it easy for me. I’m just taking game shots, practice shots and trying to be efficient."
Notes
- Brandan Wright DNP because of a stomach flu.
What's next?
- We defend home court once again on Friday against the Jazz.
| Day | Date | Time | Opponent | TV | Radio |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fri | Nov 05 | 7:30pm | Jazz | CSNBayHD | KNBR 680 |
| Sun | Nov 07 | 3:00pm | @Pistons | CSNBayHD | KNBR 680 |
| Mon | Nov 08 | 4:00pm | @Raptors | CSNBayHD | KNBR 1050 |
| Wed | Nov 10 | 4:30pm | @Knicks | CSNBayHD | KNBR 1050 |
| Thu | Nov 11 | 5:00pm | @Bulls | CSNBayHD | KNBR 1050 |
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Is a 115-109 game really a battle of the defenses?
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
yeah it was kind of sloppy…too many avoidable turnovers.
by double the butter on Nov 3, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It sure seemed like the battle of the defenses
They weren’t giving us anything easy inside. Conversely, we did a lot of good work stopping them as well. It felt like a battle of which defense would give up first.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 3, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
i would say we played defense down the stretch and at times throughout the game.
we played really sloppy though during the first half though.
by bimmercirem3 on Nov 3, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
A bit soon for this,
but recent history dictates that we’d better get this in quick:
We’re tied for 4th in the west!!!
Have the rains let up yet?
I'm amazed.
Not even being sarcastic right now, it feels good to start off right and not have that feeling of needing to catch up. I’m tired of all the “x number of wins to get to .500!” talk.
by Precise Films Productions on Nov 3, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
That's true
But it was mostly garbage time in the 4th for them yesterday, so that swings the scales back to our side a little.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 3, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
We didn't have Steph
Fair game
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
And Amundson...
and B.Wright….
and Ekpe Udoh…
by Precise Films Productions on Nov 3, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Added
Jim interviews Reggie after the game.
Can I get some Love for my man
D WRIGHT commin up Huge this game with no curry
Play hard, then rock out even harder.
by TheBigLeburnski on Nov 3, 2010 11:01 PM PDT reply actions
stomach flu
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
David Lee v Paul Milsap should be interesting.
Serving it up night in and night out -Steph "The Chef" Curry
by dont_stop_believin' on Nov 3, 2010 11:17 PM PDT reply actions
playing well..
i know its early but kudos to Keith Smart for the good start . I like the fact were showing resiliency in the 4th quarter especially. Memphis shot over 50% in this game even after a b2b yet between ellis getting to the line and Wrights outside shooting…just too much
good sheeeeit dubz
KeWzEe
Perhaps our 3rd quarter collapses had more than a little bit to do with Nellie; it’s very much starting to appear that way.
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
3QC
3rd Qtr was when Memphis went to the zone and we got cold from the perimeter. Lee and Beans never got anything going inside all night.
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 4, 2010 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah we really need to learn how to play against the zone.
That was horrible. And all of our swing passes to the wings were telegraphed. Gay got one steal for his breakaway, and at least 3 others were deflected.
I never noticed
how dayum tall Jim Barnett was until i just saw him standing next to reggie….
KeWzEe
They have some size @ center...
Thabeet – 7’ 3", The Iranian center (name?)- 7’ 2", and Gasol – 7’0" @ 265 lbs
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gameflow, CSN highlights and recap video, post game quotes
Recaps: Jonathan Okanes, Rusty Simmons
Postgame articles: Monta Poole, Rusty Simmons, Matt Steinmetz
Sorry I haven't been on guys...
But the Giants took over my life… Now I’m back!
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Also of note...
Acie Law doing the little things in limited time! 4 min, 3 rebounds 2 asst 0 points
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
3-1 is nice
Love the play from our new guys.
Monta is playing lights out, superstar level
Only concern,
Worried about all the settling for threes – this isn’t Nellie ball – Smart should have demanded more drives to the hoop in the third quarter.
Worried about all the settling for threes
Depends what you mean by “settling.” Most of the perennially successful teams in the league launch a whole ton of threes. LAL, Orlando, Phoenix, Cleveland, and SA, e.g., were all among the Top 11 in the league in 3fga. Indeed, esteemed GSoMer onlxn has posited that just launching a ton of threes, irrespective of how many you make, tends to correlate loosely with winning. Particularly in a game like last night’s, in which the Memphis D was clogging the middle, bombing from 3 is a pretty essential ingredient to winning. I’d also note that most of the Ws’ threes last night seemed to come within the flow of the offense (after drive-and-kicks, e.g.)
Given the relative slackness of the Memphis perimeter D last night, I think the presence of Curry might have allowed the Ws to win this game by 20 or 30 (that is, assuming the presence of Curry wouldn’t have forced them to alter their defense slightly).
There will be no extra point!
in this specific context it looked like Nellie ball
I have no problem with us taking a lot of threes because we have the guys who can make them. But when we can’t get to the line when the other team is getting there a lot, and when the long range jumper isn’t falling, then that is a time to stip “settling” and drive the lane and try to get foul calls. When Monta returned he did just that and we regained our big lead. But for a long spell in the third it seemed like the team was “settling” instead of forcing the refs to make calls, putting pressure on the defense, etc. Luckily, they were bricking too at that time, but against a better team spells of regression like the one we had in the third might end up costing us a game.
Jim Barnett made Reggie uncomfortable.
He recovered nicely.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
Haha yeah
Asking a player to explain why it was a good decision to have someone jump you in the rotation seems like a little bit of a faux pas
by ReggieFan2010 on Nov 4, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Great quote from Monta
“We’re missing Stephen tonight and guys stepped up where we needed them tonight.”
Loving the positive attitude he’s bringing this year, especially concerning Steph.
And great recap as always. Keeps me coming back to GSoM
Anyone on the team would say that about steph..
You act like he hated him…
No electro, no metro, a little retro. Ahhhhhhhh.. perfecto
by Percie Harvin on Nov 4, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s pretty absurd how much legs that one off-the-cuff comment by Monta made before last season has had. He rescinded it a long time ago. Time to put it to bed.
There will be no extra point!
Yeah he rescinded it a while ago
but it never seemed sincere. Guess I just still had my doubts about his character ever since the moped incident. Time to let that go, too, I guess. lol.
Regardless, I’d take married/daddy monta over last year’s Monta, as I’m sure most fans would.
he did rescind it, but I agree with enjoi
It still is nice to hear because last year he didn’t offer up too many quotes like this.
I don’t doubt his sincerity, but I appreciate that he has matured – nothing wrong with that.
if monta keeps playing like this
i really wouldnt be surprised if he ended up being scoring champ.
I like that
The Warriors can beat bad teams. Just like the raiders. It feels like improvement
FACT
by mcastro831 on Nov 4, 2010 7:35 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
FACT: The Warriors are 3-1. The Raiders are 4-4. Not huge sample sizes from which to draw conclusions.
I think it’s been pretty clear for a while that the Warriors are much improved this season. Still, I’d like to see them beat up on some bad/mediocre teams on the road. This upcoming stretch of road games against mostly lousy teams should be an interesting test.
There will be no extra point!
Well 4-4 in a 16 game season isn't really small sample size
Thats half the games……….
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Well, sure: if the goal is simply to show that either team can beat bad teams, a sample size of one game is sufficient. Whether or not either can be expected to do so consistently, at home and on the road, remains a question. I haven’t watched the Raiders enough (read: at all) to say one way or the other, but for the Ws I think four games isn’t a big enough of a sample size from which to be drawing broad conclusions.
There will be no extra point!
For the W's no
But the Raiders, there is a big improvement :)
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I’m not sure I can name one current Raider (Stabler? Branch? Casper? Biletnikoff?) so I’ll take your word for it. ;-)
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 4, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sure I can name one current Raider
warren sapp?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 4, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
All we have shown so far
We can beat bad teams on the 2nd game of b2b at home.
We were 18-23 or something at home last year. We are good at home. Let’s win some road games before we claim any improvement.
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 4, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
the reality sets in
it’ll be awesome if we win majority of home games (i’m not going to be that greedy) and have home court adv. during the playoff.
let’s dream big.
can't you tell from our play that we are improved?
Win-loss record is not the only indicator of improved play
We have played 3 home games and one road game.
Our 3 home games were against teams on the 2nd game of a b2b.
We did not win a road game in preseason either. Still way too small a sample size to claim improvement.
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 4, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Granted it is a small sample size
But it is obvious that we are playing better defense and rebounding better than last year. In addition, the play of Lee and D.Wright is much improved over guys who played our forward spots last season.
Was at the game last night....
Monta of course got all the praise from the crowd, and rightfully so. At the end of the game he ws just making ridiculous shots…. But David Lee, I think I have a man crush. I turned to my sister and dad and said he was amazing, and both were kind of confused, not noticing what he did.. 16 rebounds, unselfish play, in short without Lee this is a game we lose like last year.
I’m beginning to believe, If we continue to outrebound teams we’ll win because there is no shortage of offensive firepower. Not surprising Warriors have outrebounded 3 out of 4 opponents and won 3 out of 4 games.
My only criticism all game. Man were we UGLY without Monta in. No Monta AND no Curry is D-league caliber ballhandling.
He is getting MVP chants every time at the line
I just wish Beans played better
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Truly reminds me of Lakers
Kobe with the MVP chants, but anyone with a real understanding of basically knows Gasol, Odom, Bynum are the MVPs, cleaning the glass.
I firmly stand by my point, last year with Randolph and Maggette @ PF we lose last nights game, because we don’t rebound as well. Monta was spectacular to wage but at same wasn’t exactly 18-24 like v. Houston
I firmly stand by my point, last year with Randolph and Maggette @ PF we lose last nights game, because we don’t rebound as well. Monta was spectacular to wage but at same wasn’t exactly 18-24 like v. Houston
Grizz shot 50+% from the field last night, we shot 40%. Our 19 offensive rebounds were pretty darn integral to why we won last night.
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 4, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
wasn’t exactly 18-24 like v. Houston
Not exactly, but in scoring 39 on only 26 fga, with 9 dimes, 8 boards, 3 steals and only 4 tov, he may have done more to help the team win.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 4, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Question for Jae and other Stat-heads....
Does anyone know the percentage of times team with most rebounds wins? I imagine it’s around 75% or above. Of course there are exceptions, and we all know the old add-ages about rebounding, but I’m curious actual percentage…
the problem with that kind of analysis
is that rebounding teams tend to be more efficient scoring teams as well, so you’d almost certainly be conflating those two factors.
Having said that, rebounding is very, very important and most certainly correlated with winning. Read Berri’s “Wages of Wins” or Dean Oliver’s “Basketball on Paper”, if you haven’t already.
There is a large coorelary
Because lack of defensive rebounding gives up offensive rebounding, aka much more efficient scoring. And if you are a great offensive rebounding team it’ll likely bump up your efficiency. See people want to overrate scoring efficiency in a macro context, when all that matters is your efficiency v. your DIRECT opponent. You may not be the most efficient team, but if you play good D and are excellent rebounders and keep your opponents efficiency lower, it doesn’t much matter. But rebounding margin, that’s something you can compare to see.
Eitherway, I have read Berri and it’s good. I’m just curious on a very raw, simplistic level, what percentage of time, the team who has the most rebounds wins.
I’m just curious on a very raw, simplistic level, what percentage of time, the team who has the most rebounds wins.
If you go thru the box scores for about 100 random games and work it out you’ll probably get a pretty close estimate? Might be interesting to do it for 100 games last year versus 100 games from a decade ago to see if there’s any difference?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 4, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
all im saying
Is that The Raiders are finally able to whoop on bad teams (Denver and Seattle). And now we’re 4-4 and only a game back of the division leaders Chiefs (whom we play next week). Much like the Warriors. We beat the grizz and clips, and we were able to win vs a good team in Houston. Its a good sign to see, it means we can compete.
But yeah, I’m hoping we can go at least 2-2 on this road swing. But I’m hoping for 3-1. This trip is gonna speak volumes. Playing bad teams on the road with curry back. (Oh god! Please!)
FACT
by mcastro831 on Nov 4, 2010 8:16 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
all im saying Is that The Raiders are finally able to whoop on bad teams (Denver and Seattle). And now we’re 4-4 and only a game back of the division leaders Chiefs
and the raiders being 4-4 is a lot bigger deal than the warriors starting 3-1, the raiders have even out suked the warriors over the last few years :>) 4-4 for the raiders would be like the warriors being 20-20 at mid season and in the playoff hunt.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 4, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
So...
Anyone want to trade Monta for O.J and Thabeet? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
LOL
But Thabeet has potential!!!
LOL
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Nellie said he would have done that in a heartbeat. Kudos to Riley for saying hell no.
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
LEts not act like Mayo sucked. Also I think 70% of GSoM would have
Credit Riley, I would have done it too at the time
Show me where Nellie said that. I am calling bull.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
thank you
bloggers/rumourmongers got word of the offer from Mem, to fuel speculation on the usual ‘should-could’ routine. And the rumour took its usual turn to speculation ‘what does Nelson want ?’ The highlight of the whole episode came from the Mem honcho denouncing the GS front office with the ‘diarrhea of the mouth’ comment, because he apparently had the impression that the offer would be kept on the down and low.
Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)
Last year, definitely not now.
Especially because Mayo is just a jumpshooter.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 4, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
IQ is my hero
Thank you IQ for the best compilation coverage of the Warriors available anywhere (imho).
keep on truckin...
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Recaps: Adam Lauridsen, Mike Massa, Feltbot
Postgame: Rusty tidbits, nba.com full video recap
we also..
Need to beat a team that isn’t on the back end of a back-to-back game.
by mcastro831 on Nov 4, 2010 8:54 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Added
Matt Steinmetz article, not buying into the good start
Free throws were the key to the game.
W’s outshot the Grizz from the free throw line, and in the process got M Gasol and DArthur into foul trouble. Their bench bigs were nothing in comparison.
It was not the flashy plays or hot 3 point shooting. It’s about attacking the rim and getting to the freebie line. That’s the difference and that is something Coach Smart needs to encourage more.
Our shooting is hot and cold. But we can be consistent in attacking the paint.
It’s also about three point shooting, especially when the D packs it in the way Memphis did last night. We had a 15 point edge on them from 3, by virtue of taking 30 3fga and making 13 of them. That’s a very good %, but not that far off what we should normally expect from 3, especially on nights when Curry’s playing.
Personally, I’m glad Smart doesn’t seem to be overplaying the “take it to the rim” mantra. Last year the three best teams in the NBA during the regular season (Orlando, Cle and LAL) were #1, #3 and #10 in the league in threes attempted. As long as it’s within the flow of the offense (as I think it has been mostly this season) the three is always going to be a necessary part of our attack.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 4, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
*
#1, #3 and #10
Should be #1, #8 and #10.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 4, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks for sharing
i say the reason we won was because of FJ. he’s entries are undefeated.
LGW…still.
must to be…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Nov 4, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Little late
Just watched Lee’s interview; “If I could just make a lay-up everything will be alright”
Haha, Lee is a natural interviewee.
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
Why?
does DavidLee look like Tom Cruise now that’s he’s a warrior?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Nov 4, 2010 6:40 PM PDT reply actions
Meh
Lee has a foot and change over that Scientologist.
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 4, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
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