GameThread #6: Golden State Warriors at Detroit Pistons - Smooth Sailing
by R Dizzle on Nov 7, 2010 12:25 PM PST
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Warriors (4-1) vs Pistons (1-5)
TV: CSN Bay Area | Radio: KNBR 680
Tip-Off: 3 pm
Blog Buddy: Detroit Bad Boys
Looks like it's going to be smoooooth sailin on Lake Huron tonight (bet ya didn't know the closest lake to Detroit is Lake Huron). First time in...15 years!
Yes, that's right. The Warriors have dropped three straight at the Palace in Auburn Hills (why are they called the DETROIT PISTONS?) and have been a tremendous 1-14 there since the 1994-95 season.
As with everything this season, it's time to turn it around, so pop on your boat shoes (preferably your Sperry's), go find T-Pain, and sail on to the J-U-M-P!
Since I seemed to like the format of the last preview...
Matchups
Point Guard
Stephen Curry's back and still waiting to get back to form, but seeing as though the Pistons are more dysfunctional at PG than we were two years ago (see - Monta Ellis Moped Gate) this one's pretty easy. The Pistons' starting PG, Rodney Stuckey, refuses to get off the bench when called, so they're stuck with Tracy McGrady for the time being.
I love it.
Edge: Warriors
Shooting Guard
Monta Ellis 2010 vs. Rip Hamilton 2010? Another easy one.
Edge: Warriors
Small Forward
Back in the summer, there were tons of people pining for a Tayshaun Prince trade of some kind. I'm not trying to deny that the light looked brighter with a Prince, but Dorell (1 R, 2 L's) has got the Wright stuff. He's playing OUT OF HIS MIND and this might, just might, look like our best offseason pick-up for years to come.
Edge: Warriors
Power Forward
David Lee vs. Austin Daye? Uh....
Edge: Warriors
Center
Now this is a fun one. I think if I had it my way we'd just watch a free throw contest, best of 10, between Andris and Big Ben. It'd probably last the same amount of time as a normal game and would be much more exciting.
But since we can't have that and it's a normal game and I found this on ESPN
Player News (last updated: October 31, 2010)
News: Wallace had 13 rebounds, two steals, and two blocks Saturday night at Chicago.
Spin: Amazingly, with the exception of 5-10 minutes per game, Wallace doesn't appear to be a substantively different player than he was in 2000-01 with Detroit
I'm going to go with Big Ben.
Just kidding.
Edge: Warriors
Bench
Salaries alone make me inclined to believe that the Pistons bench must be SIGNIFICANTLY better than the Warriors bench. Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva alone account for $17 million dollars of payroll..so they must be good, right? Right?
Edge: Pistons? (I want to believe they have something good against us)
By the way, who decided to pay that kind of money for those two guys and NOT start them? Was Joe Dumars hanging out with Chris Mullin on the lake that day or something? (ba-ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!)
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By all means, this should be an easy win. And I do stress should be. This is just like the 49ers vs. Panthers game a la 2 weeks ago - if they lose this, it might be enough to send me over the edge. Sure, we're good at home (as seen with Friday's victory) but a good team should win easy games on the road.
This is an easy game.
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By the way, peep djfuzzylogic at the game! He'll be 15-20 rows up!
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Hopefully
we will not play down to their level tonight. These are the games that need to be won with regularity if the Warriors have any playoff aspirations this year. LGW
Play down to their level?
Altough Pistons are not what they used to be when Chancey was there, they still have spare parts to make it interesting.
Detroit Pistons..
Where fans throw beer and get punched in the face.
No electro, no metro, a little retro. Ahhhhhhhh.. perfecto
I think it would be best stated like this, haha
Detroit Pistons…
Where throwing beer and punching fans happens
"Be an Optimist Prime, not a Negatron!" - Some random guy on google
by KashRocks on Nov 7, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You're right.
I like it better
No electro, no metro, a little retro. Ahhhhhhhh.. perfecto
by Percie Harvin on Nov 7, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
and Stephen Jackson
got fined for another 50k
Even if you do succeed most people wouldn't notice anyway.
by Lat We N Trash on Nov 7, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
That is bs...
50,000 dollars. Stern is a piece of s***. I hate seeing him in interviews with his crooked smile.
No electro, no metro, a little retro. Ahhhhhhhh.. perfecto
by Percie Harvin on Nov 7, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
That is a real load
Thanks for that link, I hadn’t heard about this. Poor Stack, another one to add to his career bloopers reel.
Cut.
by Butterknuckles on Nov 7, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
unfortunately
since US turned clock this game will be too late 4 me (12AM would be way better than 1AM)
no doubt W’s wll do fine i’ll check tomorrow though
Even if you do succeed most people wouldn't notice anyway.
I suspect the Pistons are hungry for a win, and we are unproven on the road, so we shouldn’t just assume this will be easy. On paper, we are significantly better than they are, though. It will be a stain on our entire season, if we lose this. I think it’s a must win for team moral and season tone-setting.
The Golden Glow is the only way to reach the upper level.
What we need today
Is for the Dubs to come out of the gates and hit hard early on. That way the starters can save some energy for tomorrow.
I’ve been impressed with the bench play at times, but this would be a really great opportunity to season themselves even more.
i dont think we are going to win easily
definitely not a blow out. i call a close game… being a road game, everything changes nd i think we are not a good road team until we see it. So far.. im not happy about our road mentality.
This could be like the 49ers vs seahawks game…
I can't believe I'm on a boat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amnesty for all immigrants! Boycott Arizona! RIP GURU
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Nov 7, 2010 1:37 PM PST reply actions
Start off the road trip with a WIN!
I’m not so sure we’ll win tonight. I mean, they got a lot of scoring options. But we should be favorites.
PFortyy :)
'11 Champs!
YAO MING
No electro, no metro, a little retro. Ahhhhhhhh.. perfecto
by Percie Harvin on Nov 7, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
There a stream up? Or you have CSN?
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
These guys are seriously moronic sometimes.
It’s like watching the 3 stooges
Cut.
by Butterknuckles on Nov 7, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
The warriors have all the luck. They win a close one against Utah, now they are facing an abysmall Detroit. way to keep a win streak going.
by Jeffrey Thompson on Nov 7, 2010 2:42 PM PST reply actions
Something about counting, chickens, and eggs some to mind
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Steinmetz hates stats, but i think it's because he doesn't understand them.
Like he hates PPG, but he thinks that is the only statistic. I think someone should give him Dave Berri’s book and maybe he would understand them better.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 2:46 PM PST reply actions
LGW...still. -Shells.
Is Angela Bowers and Kelly Bundy up in this ongline GSoM network or what?
ROMESdavidWOOD37 has taken over the Ongline. He's cool.
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 7, 2010 2:46 PM PST reply actions
If anyone finds a good stream
Pls do share :)
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go to channelsurfing.net or myp2p.com i think it is…i used those when i lived 500 miles away and they were usually good.
by double the butter on Nov 7, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Monta with 29 points. 3 rebounds. 7 Steals.
(please predict how many dimes he drops.)
Dubz FTDubz.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 7, 2010 2:52 PM PST reply actions
6 steals?
or 7 steals. 6 dimes?
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 7, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
i thought you were asking for prediction on dimes.
by QualityOverQuantity on Nov 7, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
oh ya. that.
good prediction. imma go with 13 dimes?
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 7, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
lol might as well predict a triple double too.
although i would not complain if either did happen
by QualityOverQuantity on Nov 7, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Any links?
Golden State Warriors Fan 4 Life!!!
Owner: Joe Lacob, Peter Guber
GM: Kevin Prichard, Larry Riley
Coach: Brian Shaw
GSW the best team in 2K11!!!
..............SC30..............
hi shells! hi angela!
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 7, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Aight.
Lets put this one away.
Two Tics Way Up cuz We ONN Warriors Nation! Even if we lost Boom Dizzle we stizzle tic tic kaboombizzle never fizzle fuh rizzle. MUCH LOVE. Open Your Consciousness and LOOK UP Y'ALL. The Time Is NOW. – RGK
by ReluctantGoodKnight on Nov 7, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions
link?
I’m in LA so if you know how i can watch this online, itd be much appreciated…
Two Tics Way Up cuz We ONN Warriors Nation! Even if we lost Boom Dizzle we stizzle tic tic kaboombizzle never fizzle fuh rizzle. MUCH LOVE. Open Your Consciousness and LOOK UP Y'ALL. The Time Is NOW. – RGK
by ReluctantGoodKnight on Nov 7, 2010 3:03 PM PST reply actions
Heh
My streamtorrent link switched from CSN to the Det feed, not sure if I prefer it or not. I do want to hear Barnett lol
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Dont have cable
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Gadz records his first double double tonight for the dubz.
Hi i am on the Gadz bandwagon.
Hi i am on the Vladrad bandwagon. Hi i am the one at the Roaracle chanting…“VladMan! All Star of the Year 2011! No im not crazy!”
Yo R-Diz. they are better than your boy Rub Kurz. LOLLL Yez!
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 7, 2010 3:04 PM PST reply actions
LOL.
R Diz is cool. but Rob Kurz comes second to him.
I am a number 2 Rob Kurz fan next to R Diz.
I just didnt want Kurz taking AR’s minutes. I wanted them to play at the same time actually.
Whocares. they both dont play for us anymore. And R Diz is still with the Dubz. so what!
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 7, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
This.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 7, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Predictions
Curry 25, 9 dimes
Monta 38, 4 dimes, 3 steals
D Wright, 3 triples, 20 points, 6 boards
beans and lee – 2 double doubles
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by ReluctantGoodKnight on Nov 7, 2010 3:06 PM PST reply actions
I thought Ben Wallace retired
I didn’t know he’s still playing
Biedrins #1 already
Though he said he was held
http://www.atdhe.net/27710/watch-golden-state-warriors-vs-detroit-pistons
NOT WORKING!!!
No electro, no metro, a little retro. Ahhhhhhhh.. perfecto
Try this
Bad quality though, Det feed
http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nba-3.html
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
That's a Don Nelson thing
3 pt in transition
Curry needs to go to the hoop next
missed 2 shots
LGW!
Golden State Warriors Fan 4 Life!!!
Owner: Joe Lacob, Peter Guber
GM: Kevin Prichard, Larry Riley
Coach: Brian Shaw
GSW the best team in 2K11!!!
..............SC30..............
well after he got shutdown by Wallace, that was the least he could do to redeem himself
by QualityOverQuantity on Nov 7, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Does the number of ppl who watch a stream
affect the stream?
Dunno
But I sure wish I had money for cable right now lol
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
http://freelivestreaming.net/nba/
you guys are welcome but if you guys make it lagg I’m never gonna post another feed here again.
It looks like the Warriors are still figuring out the offense
Some stagnant, not moving around, not quite knowing where to move on that possession
I didn't realize this was on till right now
how has the game been going so far?
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
Ugh
Every time Radman takes a shot, I cringe
Guess Steph still doesn't have the star power
To get the calls yet
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Did you see what KG allegedly called him?
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
It's actually really offensive
Charlie tweeted that KG called him “cancer patient” during the game. KG responded by saying that he actually called him a cancer to his team and to the league.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
reminds me of when kg said that he called glen "baby" davis
but supposedly he wasn’t call him a baby but was referring to the whole team
interesting though. thanks for sharing.
I'd be more upset about it
if Charlie V wasn’t one of my least favorite players in the league.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
Nice job Vlad did something helpful.
Nothing going on offense again
Reggie a tough drive
you people and your streams
Just get Comcast and join the Imperial Army.
true, but then you could get League Pass. Kinda sucks tho.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
it's a shame League Pass doesn't work in one's own geographic area.
I’ve heard that can be mitigated with a proxy server tho.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
You assume people have money :P
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
Shocking quarter... So flat
Pistons seem to be playing good though. And we aren’t down by much. I expect a strong 2 quarter
PFortyy :)
'11 Champs!
lol
My stream torrent is a good 5 minutes behind
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Lee was wide open there.
Nice that he got the tip
Way to break your own ankle
Who was that on Detroit?
Ugh, I should sell a kindey or something and get cable
Just a matter of time for the NFL join all the other sports ditch public broadcasting…
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and ditch*
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
yeah Comcast is a total racket.
I loathe them.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
i'm waiting for at&t uverse into this area. comcast blows hard
by double the butter on Nov 7, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
ive heard you can share a directv subscription with other directv customers. Multiple receivers in different locations under one account. As long as each location has a Directv dish setup correctly this should work.
by QualityOverQuantity on Nov 7, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
the NFL will never make the mistake and ditch public broadcasting.
they are the #1 sport in America for a good reason. They won’t mess with something that works
by QualityOverQuantity on Nov 7, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
With Radman in there
the paint is WIDE OPEN right now on offense
I hate Charlie V
PFortyy :)
'11 Champs!
by Potential on Nov 7, 2010 3:52 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
This needs to be green
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Shells has taken over for IQ as the play by play person
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 3:55 PM PST reply actions
He's like
“ekpe udoh, he is SO impressive, you just get excited waiting for him to come back”
“he’s very big, and his work ethic is just unbelievable”
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm, Wright and Vlad front, goodbye rebounds...
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home court advantage....?
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Argh, 23 seconds of defense
and the Pistons got bailed out with a foul
Yeah he's actually contributing.
Even when he sucks and frustrates me, I do feel bad for the guy.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmm
There might be something to what Steinmetz said about our offense no longer having an identity…
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Yeah
and I think part of that is that he focused more on defense than offense when Nellie made him the defensive coordinator.
There's no excuse for him not running the pick and roll.
It’s sad to see us never run it with the best big man in the game in the pick and roll (Lee).
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
and what was that identity last year? Monta play 45 mpg and take 50% of the shots?
Seems like we haven’t had a clear offensive identity since We Believe.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Nellie small ball.
Lots of transition offense, always pushing the tempo, and a half court offense that was basically just Isos.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
the bench is out and we're up by 1
chill… its better than the starters playing 48 minutes a game
Yeah, just kinda weird
this kind of offense for half and it’d be garbage time already if this were last year.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
"What do you think of Smart's rotations?"
“GREAT”
STFU FITZ, they suck so bad.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions
You prefer Nellie throwing Curry and Monta out there 48 mins a game?
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Yes because there were only about 8 healthy bodies on the roster.
"In fact, I'm gonna try to squeeze my way through here, and uh... uh... [pause] well, now I'm getting crushed, Jon." - Dave Flemming, Giants Clubhouse, after NL Championship
by Caine Black Knife on Nov 7, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'd prefer no Vlad, more Adrien, more B Wright, and some Lin.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Let's get real.
Lin is NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME. He looks slow and unathletic at the NBA level.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
What contrasting games
From the Jazz game where the refs mostly let them play to now
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
That was his 2nd miss
He had only attempted 1 before, so how is he to know he’ll miss?
The box score says Charlie Bell is 0/2 from 3s
even right now, it’s still that stat.
In other words, at the time he took that airball corner 3
he had only attempted 1 3, which he missed. So if the play causes him to be open in the corner, why shouldn’t he try a 2nd 3?
that's because he attempted 2 3's from the same corner
and missed it! and to be honest, he’s not great at 3’s. esp from the corner. he’s certainly no cj
How do you know he's not good from the corner?
Did he missed corner 3s in the previous games? He’s only attempted 5 3s this season, and made 2. Do you know where on the court those 3s were attempted?
Secondly, you’re complaining about him missing the 3 as though he’d know that he’d miss the shot before he takes it. How does Bell know he’ll miss his 2nd 3pt attempt of the game before he takes it?
he's 4-13 coming into the game
and was 1-10 preseason on 3’s/
He shouldn’t shoot them, period
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
actually, i am watching tv. the feed must be faster
so my comments are on key. you though, are probably too slow on typing, so majority of my comments are way ahead of yours.
And where's Biedrins. The man gets 8 rebounds in the first quarter! Put him in you incompetent coach.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:07 PM PST reply actions
Radmanovic has played more minutes than Biedrins. What a joke Smart, go home.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:08 PM PST reply actions
We are keeping game close
It’s not like we are getting blown out.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
stop complaining
he got 2 early fouls… radman is doing ok… and the team isnt that behind
by we want foyle on Nov 7, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
when Carney shot that, i though "NOOOOO"
then it went it haha
Well, lots of rest for the starters for a good 2nd half push
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Even Jim thinks this is moronic to keep Biedrins on the bench.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions
This is also the first of a b2b
Might be trying his best to keep starters rested. Bench is keeping game close as well.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
You know, I wonder if the problem with the David Lee pick and roll
is that he doesn’t roll to the basket hard enough
What's this have to do with Lee p&r?
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps
He is also dealing with generally more agile PFs than Cs compared to when he was in NYK.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
He was one of the best pick and roll bigs in the league the past 2 years.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Curry does not have pathetic athleticism
he has much much better athleticism than me.
I mean for pro level. He's kind of slow and not explosive.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
He isn't explosive,
but I think he’s a little quicker than advertised.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
err 2nd = second
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
But he is studying and practicing along side the team
and he’s listening in to the huddles and things like that. From everything I’ve read, he’s been a good “student” while he’s been injured. We’ll see how much of that translates onto the floor when he comes back.
thatsthejoke
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Well, if you're beef is that Udoh got injured, sure
But if you are saying we want Monroe the player, sheeeesh, at least let’s see what Udoh has got.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
it's a regular thing
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
If the Warriors would just hit open 3s we would be up by a lot.
I truly miss Morrow.
man
I’m not complaining about these ugly games because we’re winning but dude, this is horrible to watch.
This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM
I see we're playing Vladi
Detroit needs the help, I guess
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
The fact that he didn't play Rad much in the previous game
tells me that he thinks there are some situations that he thinks Radman is good in. And Radman hasn’t totally stunk it up like the last game.
no, he just gave away 7 points in the last 2 minutes of a half
that’s not playing badly at all
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I can't agree or disagree without a video replay of the last 2 minutes
I’d need to see it to be sure he’s the one who caused the Pistons to score 7 pts.
Funny
I’m just listening and Roye called it all clearly
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Well, I'm watching the broadcast,
and I’m reading the open thread, and I’m looking at the box score, so I’m not watching every moment of the game.
This is looking like the road trip last year we had with Smart
No offensive creativity, horrible rotations, boring basketball. UGHH
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions
Question:
If our PG, supposedly the brain and the leader of the group isn’t doing well, does that affect/effect the whole dang team?
the one you're looking for is "affect"
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
No...affect is a verb, effect is a noun.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
well affect as a noun does refer to emotions
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
no, effect can be a verb
It means to cause something to happen. The most common usage I’ve seen is to “effect some change”
Last game he came in big at the end
hopefully a similar thing happens tonight.
Radman kills us
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i dont think he had that many touches.
maybe another 2? i think we were driving more (rodney anyone?)
Monta is not hitting his jump shot but
everything else seems to be going well for him, good defense that I see and he is cutting to the rim really well without the ball.
I know home court advantage makes a difference
But geez, its like they are playing a totally different sport on the road
This really that different from the Utah game?
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
anyone have a different feeling compared to last year?
i was at the utah game and was just waiting for the collapse to happen… it never happened and i was surprised… i’m getting the same feeling this game
we work harder
and there’s not that many iso. minus that corey isn’t here. how many iso plays were there for corey in the 3rd Q??
I think we really need a dead eye spot shooter that can
CONSISTENTLY hit threes, Curry and maybe Dorell are our only consistent shooters.
no he isnt
man we were log jammed at the shooter dead-aim 3point position for the last 4 years, fuck man.
even buike is usually more consistent than dorell and even steph has been this year from 3
Heh
The way people are complaining you’d think we were down by 20 right now. Amusing.
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thats whats called "golden state basketball"
we’d be less pissed if it was like tied up at 65 at the half…
Sure, but it's not like that "good" offense led to wins.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
exactly
im just excited that they’re only down 4 and the starters basically rested the whole 2nd quarter
by we want foyle on Nov 7, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Why can we not have good offense and good defense
at the same time.
cuz that would be too easy lol
warriors always gotta make it interesting
by we want foyle on Nov 7, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Warriors will pull this game off
This game and tomorrow are both a huge test for the team if we want to make the playoffs we have to beat bad teams on the road.
This game needs moar Beans and yes....moar Gadz
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Well, any minutes is more than 0 mins isn't it?
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
i guess when one refers to "more"
they have to have some to begin with. and dan hasn’t none.
oh forget it. i’ll stick to basketball
i just can't wait till Lou gets cleared to play
he’s gonna be great off the bench for us
Lou!!!!!!
Please get healthy soon!
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
heck you should be playing Adrien instead of Vlad, and Lin instead of Charlie, but really, let’s keep insisting that we should give the two worst players on the team minutes instead. So much for “earning” minutes
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I think we need to go bigger in the second half
have gadz replace Biedrins instead of Radman
lol i have no idea who that guy is
by QualityOverQuantity on Nov 7, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Gooch is an attorney?
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
Ack
at least put a title so we can hide the comment
Homecoming?
Is this Bell’s home town or something? That would explain why his 2 shots are terrible tonight
A 10-2 run would be just peachy right now
Make it happen Dubs!
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Meh
10-3 run works too
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Smart, you're dumb, finally put Biedrins in, and look at that!
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:33 PM PST reply actions
Sorry for being so negative!
I’m just a little frustrated with Smart.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
DWright knocking them down from outside!
Great start to the 3rd
Now we know Rad man play the whole 1st half
So beans can have fresh legs
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Plus
He can stay aggressive on defense
by ohcleverhansyou on Nov 7, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Coz Vlad shoot 2 3s on the 1st quarter
He want Rad to get his confidence back
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that's a horrible idea
good confidence + bad shooting = losing
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Got 'Em! - its Dorell Time baby
the kids got an attitude, weve seen this before, games about to be out of reach yall!!
Lee = Garbage Man
Cleaning up all the misses
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Seesh
How many of Curry’s Tos are offensive fouls?
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Well, I mean including the Jazz game, seems like so many Curry offensive fouls
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
me too dude
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Good, it's not just me
Something about their body shape look so similar
Wow it would suck to be a pistons fan. This is so boring.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:40 PM PST reply actions
look at how spread out and wide open the paint is when we're on offense
I think that’s the halftime adjustment
Hah, Ben Wallace isn't an offensive guy
so he dished it to someone else for the dunk
Are you inebriated or something?
Lots of typos tonight lol!
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Good TO Smart
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
The pistons need to retire Ben Wallace's number.
He’s their best player the last 2 years, and led them to a championship. This team would win 15 games without him this year.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:44 PM PST reply actions
between the lag in my feed and the deluge of shell posts, I'mgoing to opt out of the in-game thread.
Whole team needs to take this advice
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
uhh...
Stupid turnovers. Don’t let the crowd get back into..
PFortyy :)
'11 Champs!
We will we will STOP YOU
That can be our theme song
Is there anything Dorell Wright can't do?
Seriously … $3M a year for this guy? All hail Larry Riley.
There will be no extra point!
Sorry, im switching between Raida's and Dub's!
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:48 PM PST reply actions
just sent it to OT
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Except we looked terribad
Even before Vlad entered the game in the first half
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, who did they play?
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm, except for the NJN
They played some pretty good teams, BOS, ATL, OKC, CHI…
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
I think Lee’s finger injury has ruined his jumper…
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 4:51 PM PST reply actions
that
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Monta should have just driven to the hoop.
Paint was WIIIDE OPEN
Here comes Vlad for key end of 3rd qtr play.....lol
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Reggie should ahve brought that back out, take the possession of the Qtr
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
last possession*
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I agree
though it’s so tempting to score it when you’re so close to the basket
Even so
That would still give the Piston’s a chance to get one themselves.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
I see what's happening
Smart is matching Biedrins with Ben Wallace
end of 3rd
Somehow we’re up 3, ugly but ahead
thats how we're gonna have to get wins in the road
i dont think we’ll ever have a night where we shoot lights out
by we want foyle on Nov 7, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Somehow, we're nearly even on the rebounds, 36 for us, 34 for them
orebs are nearly the same 11 us, 12 them
I feel like Monta is forcing it a bit this game.
I’m not seeing the same consistently unselfish passing from the whole team, and Monta has thrown up a couple of ugly shots.
I’d like to see the team run a few more plays specifically for Lee, though. I feel like he’s becoming the forgotten man on offense. Maybe a little harder without Curry on the floor, though.
Vlad has had some decent passes
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Vladi
is a gift to our opponents – and he keeps on giving
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So that's where our 3rd qtr collapse went
it went to the start of the 4th qtr
Someone needs to slap Keith Smart right in the friggin' jaw.
If half-baked fan observations provide this much insight into your bad decisions, you need to change it up.
I'm practicing my deep breathing
This is all Smart and his rotations. Once again, they shouldn’t even be in the game, but we throw in Vladi and… oh look, it’s competitive.
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I'm so pissed at this guy.
He’s doing a horrible job right now.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
return of small ball?
is nellie phoning in plays from Maui?
by QualityOverQuantity on Nov 7, 2010 5:07 PM PST reply actions
let's go warriors
And be prepared to see Shells spam that one about 100 times each game thread….
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
Even though they made that, dont like them settling now
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
DWright saved my fantasy team.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
smart has managed to make me change my mind about him in an instant.. get him outta here
playing rad at C with 4 guards(at best SFs).. seriously ?
this is where Melo would take over and take it to the basket
by QualityOverQuantity on Nov 7, 2010 5:12 PM PST reply actions
He would be dominating the ball all game.
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by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
he shoots like 39% on contested shots, which is what he’d be getting if we just gave it to him to go to work.
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by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
FFS attack the damn iron.
Every time we do we get the call. This isn’t rocket science what are they thinking?
Ok, screw small ball, let's get big guys in there to clean us all these misses
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us = up
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Atma might have been right about Smart for Nellie.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 5:14 PM PST reply actions
I never thought Smart would be a good coach. I just figured he'd be better than the dysfunction and grumpiness of Nellie.
Like, I figured with Smart there’d be more chemistry, but not necessarily intelligent strategy/playmaking.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
Wow. C + Tab really works. Thanks Skept!
LETS GO WARRIORRS!
VLADMAN FTW! LOLLLL NO JOKE REALLY!
ROMESdavidWOOD37 has taken over the Ongline. He's cool.
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Nov 7, 2010 5:14 PM PST reply actions
Smart is a patient man
with people he believes in. Unfortunately, he believes in some of the wrong people
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where is lee
why is he not in. we’re not paying him 80 million to ride pine in the 4th quarter of a close
on another note, i’m getting really good at calling shots depending on the angle they approach the rim on espn gamecast
Goal: 8 seed!
We need to get the starters in.
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by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
Im just wondering....
are the pistons gonna miss another shot?
You know what
You don’t always have to help on defense…you’re just leaving people WIDE open
This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM
Smart????? Wheres Lee
Numerous rotation fails tonite!
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 5:20 PM PST reply actions
It can be both
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by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
Stephen Jackson-esque
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
it's a different beast when you're on the raod
Goal: 8 seed!
back to smallball and chucking bad shots
smart didnt take long to follow nellie’s footsteps
It's not a different game on the road
It’s a different game when you put in rebound-averse players and don’t even suit up Adrien
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
i freakin hate this acronym
yeah i said it.
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Nov 7, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
this torture cant compete with the sf giants this year
maybe if this continues until towards the end of the season
Ugh, DWright cut through the paint
just as Monta was driving to the paint
k now that it's a timeout i have to ask
since when did it become acceptable to type LGW instead of LETS GO WARRRRRIOOOOOORRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS? TYPE IT OUT BROTHAS FEEL THAT EMOTION SHIFT PLUS BUTTON MASHING
Goal: 8 seed!
LOL
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
Who cares?
You mean, you don’t care about understanding the opponent’s strategy and countering their strategy? You want to blindly play someone just because they’re getting paid???
Nellie used to do this same thing. Go small and try to make the opponent match you by going small. But we took some of our best players off the court (Beans and Lee). Usually when Nellie’s plan would fail was when the other team would not fall into this trap and other assorted reasons. We should have used our strengths and forced the Pistons out of small ball.
by QualityOverQuantity on Nov 7, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
That’s assuming Biedrins and Lee’s strengths outmatch the Piston’s small ball. But Biedrins isn’t an offensive threat, and Lee hasn’t been scoring very well. So if that’s Smart’s reasoning for subbing them out and trying to guard the perimeter, I can understand him making that call, especially if Smart’s focus is on defense and getting his team to stop his opponents.
Curry in and out on that 3, awwwwww
After a great steal! That reminded me of TMac’s 13 pts in 33 seconds, where Brown lost it.
Assists
19 for the Warriors vs 27 for Detroit.
Curry foul trouble really hurts us.
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PANIC PANIC PANIC!@!!!!!!
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
lee needs to iron out his J
he was one of the leading FG% from mid range last year; he’s been horrible this year
Goal: 8 seed!
No
Smart can’t run a rotation if his life depended on it.
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he didn't
I’ve been complaining about what he’s doing since the preseason
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OMG WE ARE GOING TO LOSE ALL OUR ROAD GAMES NOW!!!!
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lol
Just listening to how people are talking about Smart over a win or a loss has be cracking up.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
first real road trip
still 4-2, im still positive
is that the unofficial marketing campaign?
by QualityOverQuantity on Nov 7, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
i cannot fathom what reasoning justifies having Lee sit out almost all the 4th quarter
Smart, get excoriated
Goal: 8 seed!
Wow
the Piston recognized the Warriors as a much improved team with star power
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
Do you see what I mean?
“We’re playing Detroit, they’re 1-5,this is an EASY road win.”
0-1.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Nov 7, 2010 5:31 PM PST reply actions
I can live with bad losses
Just not ones that are entirely predictable based on who you keep playing
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my questions
why was lee on the bench in the 4th till less than 2 minutes left? why was beans not on the floor at all at the end? why does reggie williams of all ppl shoot a runner when we’re down 3?
have you noticed that most of the bigs didn't make that many shots in the paint?
or was it seriously just me (please don’t add those tip in)
how could they, they were hardly played long enough together to make that judgment.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
if smart won, would you guys seriously still think he has bad coaching
we still out rebounded them. we just didn’t have enough offense and our turnover was just impressive. no really
We had some god awful and plain dumb turnovers, no question.
Don’t know how you blame Smart for those
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
yes
We’ve been winning because our players are bailing him out. We collapse at the same point in every game – when you put Vladi and/or Bell in. It’s disguised by one or two good plays, and followed by 10 minutes or more of suckage
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i remember
maybe 3 shots from beans in the paint, i don’t think lee even took one
Did not like our defensive game plan
We doubled a lot but left their shooters (who they have quite a few) wide open. ugh
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Yeah, we kept doubling, and left Rip wide open. I think he was 10-12 at one point. Stupid.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
bad coaching
this game could have been won with better coaching.
why did ab sit the majority of the game when he was playing great?
lee sits until the last 1:40?
these coaching moves are baffling.
So blowout tomorrow at Toronto?
The question is , which way?
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Nov 7, 2010 5:32 PM PST reply actions
But this is the first of the back-to-back games
i.e. the one with fresh legs
Curry was only able to play 28 minutes.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
yeah
he’s gotta work on that.
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by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
and another one
radmanovic over gadzuric? really? gadz had been playing really well, vlad is awful
was smart reacting to the lineup the pistons had on the floor?
did they initiate the small ball and was that lineup our response? if so, Smart just made an avery johnon error. Or did we initiate the small ball and get crushed? Then Smart also deserves blame for running a losing lineup. SMART YOU JUST FAILED THIS GAME
Goal: 8 seed!
you're just an unhappy camper
i think smart put the small up to take up the smaller guards. rip was killing us. rodney could.
beside it’s only game 6.
so u put in bad players in order to adjust to the opponent's smallball?
and expect to win with carney and r.williams out there in the clutch? not to mention radman playing 20 mins
by krl on Nov 7, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
yah but why react to their lineup?
force them to react to ours! you take away the initiative like that and it just messes with your head (SEE: DALLAS vs WARRIORS GAME 1 2007)
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Nov 7, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
blaming coaching is the easy way out
the players have to win
if you guys are expecting success based on Smart, you’re in for a disappointing season
The settling for jumpers was driving me CRAZY
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
reminds me of
all those games with corey at the 4 and the horrible iso jumpers on every possession
by krl on Nov 7, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
if you ran 5 Curry's on the floor at once you'd blame them for the loss?
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
No, but a lineup with players who can't rebound isn't going to cut it. That's the lesson to take from the last year.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
That's true, but how is Vlad being in helping to provide defense?
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
I don't like Vlad either
but that’s not the reason we lost the game
Curry/Ellis/Wright are the ones who need to hit shots down the stretch, and they didn’t. Hold them accountable first. Blame the coach second.
You can't always hit every shot, but you CAN control who you put on the floor.
Smart put out rancid lineups all game, pulled players at stupid times, etc etc. The players shouldn’t have to put up a perfect shooting game to make up for the idiotic rotations.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
So Vlad's -12 isn't relevant at all I guess.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Really? Vlad is a player who has proven to help his team suck more when he's on the floor, game after game after game.
When he’s on the floor, the Warriors get outscored. This must be the other 4 players’ fault? Or, maybe he just sucks, and the coach who puts him in during critical, turning point parts of the game is a moron.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
They had a worse rebounding lineup than we did.
Charlie V was their best rebounder on the court for most of the 4th quarter.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
which would mean not playing the ones who kill us
oh wait…. that’s a coaching decision, isn’t it?
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true
no one would be blaming anyone if Steph made that 3
Yes I would, I'd be blaming Smart for the game coming down to that single bucket.
That all said, the players made some bad mistakes during the course of the game. I just think overall strategy and lineup are more easily preventable mistakes.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
you think even with the much talked about heats, those vets don't make mistakes?
no one is perfect dear. that being said, we just got unlucky with the last two shots.
Obviously I'm admitting nobody is perfect.
As I said, missed shots/blown assignments happen. Coaching isn’t a lot of snap decisions prone to mental errors, it is calculated and thought-out, and after thinking it through I can’t envision why Keith Smart chose those rotations.
by ScrawnyBaller84 on Nov 7, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
not really
not having the best players on the floor together in the 4th quarter is on the coach. using a sub who has proven himself to be awful over a guy who has provided good minutes is on the coach
i think this reasoning flies if we're run our traditional orthodox lineup and they fail to execute
but if the coach makes a decision to run an unorthodox lineup and they fail to perform, then that’s the coach’s fault
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Nov 7, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
When he plays such putrid lineups, it's his fault.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
and losing a game with Monta running for 44min pave this losing trip/streak
yet DWright has no shots at the end. Can’t just reply on Monta running over everybody. Biedrins is seriously being limited in playing time perhaps not 100% healthy, but using Vlad as a 5 is ridiculous.
the more i watch Wright
(and i’ve been doing some research on him cuz i wanna make fan post on him) the more I see a pattern in his game:
- he’s a great catch and shoot player. ALl his 3 pointers this year (up til game 5, haven’t seen game 6) have been assisted. 100 % (hoopdata.com)
- he has a decent one-dribble-stop/pop jumper.
- THose are his two primary forms of offense. His mid range game from 10-15 feet is poor (0 shots made this year). If he tries to do anything with a pump fake, he gets stopped (see utah game)
- He has very little inside game. Historically, he’s averaged 1.5 AT RIM shot attempts PER GAME. This year, I think he’s had one dunk so far.
What this means is this: Wright’s game reflects the state of our offense. If we’re doing well, he gets a lot of catch and shoot opportunities and he also does well. But if things break down, it looks like we can not rely on him to carry us. He’s never done it before and he hasn’t shown to be able to do it now.
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Nov 7, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
dso, if you have time
would you kindly do monta.
i’m curious what his jumpers are. he usually makes them at the rim…
and i believe dorell had an awful shooting night vs the jazz but we still won. home court baby!
monta's been up and down
not just this year but throughout his whole career. It looks like he’s improved but it’s hard to know for sure with him, whereas in Wright’s case he’s pretty much showing the same trends as his years prior (or at least once he started shooting 3’s)
hoopdata.com might be a bit intimidating at first but once you get the feel of it it’s pretty nice. Go here: http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Monta%20Ellis , then scroll down a bit till you see “shot selections”.
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Nov 7, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
i'm not certain
but i dont think reggie understands P&R. at least, i dont recall many P&R. besides, rad wasn’t a C for most of the game. or was he?
torturous...
It’s even worse than watching the Giants being outpitched in low scoring game.
Why was he even in the game that long?!?!
That is really making me start to hate Keith Smart.
F the Po Po
is Garry St. Jean going to be yapping everytime the Warriors play?
he’s enough to make me turn off the tv and turn on the radio.
Lost this game in midway thru the 3rd Q
Had a nine pt lead and then…
1. AB just simply gives the ball to the Pistons under his own hoop.
2. Rad just gives the ball to them under his own hoop.
3. The Piston’s got new life from that (up til right then the Ws were starting to seperate, take the punch out of them.)
Curry had a really bad game too.
Why is Bell playing at all? He has clearly lost what little he ever had.
This game is why some of us more veteran fans try to tell the younger fans there is something different about the road. Players, esp young ones like the W’s have, just do not play in a comfort zone they play in at home.
This kind of game is my least favorite. They are better than the Ps and they lost due mainly to the simple mental errors they made in the middle of the 3rd Q, which both stopped our run and ignited their turnaround.
hm...
towards the last few minutes there was a chance we could’ve won. does that mean that the piston isn’t a great home team? does that mean we are terrible? bell didn’t look like his impressive self for the past few games, but maybe he’s not getting enough minutes.
curry had a terrible game vs the jazz in the first half. thank god he start making shots in the 2nd half…
No
Towards the end they were fighting from behind and needed a lot to go right to win.
That would not have been the case had that stretch in the 3rd Q not happened. And while you can point to ANY time and say this or that, the reason the stretch i’m talking about was key was they were FOOLISH unforced, just give them the ball errors. And, it happened right when the W’s were hot and the Ps were starting to fade.
On the road you need a lead to work with because NBA teams at home will have some mojo to get closer. Once this stretch happened, the Ps got confidence, the W’s started moping more, and there you have it, they had to fight and claw the rest of the way.
THAT is why i hate this kind of game. They GAVE them the win.
by supersugarCrisp on Nov 7, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
two places
stretch in the third, last two minutes of the first half.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Again Shells
Not the point. They could and should have done even better in the 3rd if in the 3rd they had this stretch i’m talking about.
by supersugarCrisp on Nov 7, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
i know i shouldn't say this
because it’s not reggie’s fault that he’s not a point guard and we are lacking a back up pg, but why is that when we’re up, with reggie playing the point, we get down.
is it really the scoring? turnovers? (he does have quite a bit of turnovers that i don’t even show any tough love for curry) or the lack of other players (since he usually plays with the bench AND Monta as the off guard)
williams
just does not look like a very good player to me. i think he’s very overrated. i know i’ll probably get killed for this but that’s just what i’ve seen
5 games
and he’s been asked to play out of position a lot.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
even last year
i didn’t think he was all that great
Oh
he was crazy good on offense. I don’t know what you were watching if you didn’t like him.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
well, i didn't think monta was good at running PG either (noticed I said didn't think. he's better now)
Which, he wasn’t. Seriously. But expecting Reggie to be our PG with a fairly young team is well…I dont know. Alright, a very heavy responsibility. But that’s what Smart has to work with.
And I don’t think he’s overrated, because I don’t hear much comments about him. He can score though…
I am going to say that this was only the warriors 2nd road game - they are still working out the kinks.
3rd time is the charm. Tomorrow at Toronto.
Agreed
Even the Thunder lost to the Clips and came back the next day beat Blazer on overtime
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
Look at our offense. We still have yet to get Beans and Lee really involved into the offense. We are still living and dying by the jumper. It seems like Smart likes to integrate Vlad as the first big because he’s now the only big we have who can “shoot” jumpers. We saw our team revert to Nellieball right before our eyes.
It is still going to take some time to knock all that crap outta them and get to stick to playing winning ball.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Well, Lee can shoot jumpers as well, and we have been giving him looks
But for whatever reason he has been awful from midrange thus far.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think Rad has ever replaced Beans. (not including tonight)
They would just move Lee over, and replaced the 4th spot, unless Dan is in. Right?
nope
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Lee isn't hitting his midrange yet
And AB doesn’t deserve too many shots yet and needs a lot of help to get the shots he can make.
Speaking of that, who was it saying “AB has a good lefty AND righty hook?” Did you see his airball righty hook tonight? He simply does not have anything resembling a consistent offensive move other than lefty hooks that are very close in, or driving to his left.
He “has” other things, but they are strictly works in progress.
by supersugarCrisp on Nov 7, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
A lot of it is who he's playing with
Put him on the court with people who can’t catch and can’t shoot and there’s not a lot of room to get assists.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Sheesh, is this how every loss is going to be?
Seriously people, we are NOT going to be an elite team. We have tons of new players, and a new coach who are all still feeling each other out. it is going to take some time to gel. One game does make the whole season.
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seriously
We could be an elite team – we have the talent. Sitting on the freaking bench.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
An elite team
doesn’t play two players for a combined 25 minutes who are both negative on the floor, consistently and demonstrably.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Not if they're playing Vladimir Radmanovic at center.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 7, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
direct vs indirect
again :)
I’d say that the Warriors who vacated the paint when a detroit shot went up and left either Dre or Lee alone to try and rebound may have something to do with Rip getting those shots in the first place.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
We are just disappointed because the performance over the last few games was much higher.
It was a big step back.
Yeah even the
We Believe team having a hard time winning in the Palace
so these is not a bad loss at all
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
But these is not the same
Warriors either. But hey still have Rip and Prince
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
They got lucky tonight with Rip. He hasn’t played nearly that well in years. They replaced Chauncey with Stuckey, Ben Wallace with old Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace with Charlie Villanueva. They aren’t even close to as good as they once were.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 7, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
the we believe team
was the one team in the last 15 years to win in the palace. that was the game that kicke off their 16-5 stretch
Well, yes
And this is why those of us who said “we’ve done nothing but at least have a good start and take advantage of an easy schedule” earlier said it, and why Steinmetz said it.
Listen to your elders, youngn’s. The road is a different beast. The W’s are very GREEN. They’re a good group, good guys, but they’re still a young, newly put together team that has a light bench, a few injuries not helping that, and more than just a few players who have faults and limitations.
The team got not only home games to start, they got them vs teams on the 2nd of back to backs, and without key players. We were even lucky Curry got hurt when he did (would’ve lost to the Lakers anyway and they could and did win vs Mem.)
We would’ve all liked a 4-1 or 3-2 road trip, but at this point 2-3 would be good enough. Experienced fans knew this all along.
by supersugarCrisp on Nov 7, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Said it better than I could ever have
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
God already used it on the Giants
unfortunately…
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
it's not like we played an elite team
Everyone saw the game and saw the same thing, we LOST it! Its gonna be like this if the team and coach loses games that they should have handled
I agree we "lost it"
But, that’s part of the road experience. Young players lose their cool out there way more on the road. Things snowball way more on the road. Hell, even the backdrops, what our shooters are looking at when they shoot, are different on the road making shooting often tougher on the road.
Many things can be true at the same time. I’m upset. I hate this kind of game. They did give it away. But i went into it knowing these kinds of things happen WAY MORE on the road.
I know it doesn’t matter what we think on this board, but let’s anyway, just for the hell of it, practice not getting overconfident in the titles to our threads anymore. Guess it doesn’t matter, it’s not boosting other teams, but just for our own sensibility and more fans being more keyed into “the truth,” i think it’d be wise.
by supersugarCrisp on Nov 7, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
mostly I agree
except that it isn’t our young players losing their cool on the road. It’s the oldest players on the team sucking.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Fair enough
But let’s also say it’s fair to say B Wright instead of Vlad may not have changed anything.
We should give Smart the benefit of the doubt since his bench is weak and injured, Lee isn’t shooting well yet, and Reggie isn’t what he was last year either.
Also, i’ve experienced times when some guy being lame like Vlad actually does turn it around and seriously contribute. With a thin bench it’s worth the shot at it. But yeah, Vlad is an ugly player to watch, often.
And maybe, just maybe, this is the straw that breaks the back of the camel that is Smart’s faith in Vlad. (Although i doubt it. 1. We don’t, even when Udoh and the others get back, have anyone who “spreads the floor” like Vlad, and 2. Playing Vlad could help with his trade value. (note: i don’t necessarily agree with the spreading the floor thing when the guy you’re spreading it for is all reputation as a shooter, little shooting, i’m just saying.)
by supersugarCrisp on Nov 7, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
Not so "smooth sailing."
I started to worry the moment I read the title of this post. It’s never a good idea to underestimate an opponent…
"I got skillz." - Tim Hardaway
by BDeez Nuts on Nov 7, 2010 5:48 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I blame R Dizzle for this loss!!!!!!
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
an edit button would be so flabbergatingly awesome
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Nov 7, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
Well, our defense did lay an egg in the clutch.
Whenever we came in close to the Pistons, we let them build up the lead right back.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
recruiting Waldo?
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Hopefully Smart will look at film
And realize he needs to find a way to get Lee and Beans good looks now. We can’t expect Monta, Curry, and/or Dorell to shoot lights out every night.
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We can’t expect Monta, Curry, and/or Dorell to shoot lights out every night.
Like dear, we can expect to win every single game
No DAMN IT!
Smart is holding us back!!!!
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
I don't get the criticism of Smart here
I didn’t like seeing Bell out there, and Vlad drives me crazy.
But, he got Bell out and never brought him back. check. He played Vlad too much, but the team is shorthanded off the bench and Vlad did a few things ok tonight.
Was it Smart’s fault AB and Vlad simply gave the Ps hoops right when the W’s had built a nine pt lead and had ALL the mo?
Yes
Vladi does it consistently. To claim we’re “shorthanded off the bench” is an assumption that Smart is playing the best players on the bench we have. He isn’t, plain and simple.
I’d buy the “thin” argument if he would play bWright, Adrien, and Lin more, or if they had sucked in their minutes – but he refuses to because he doesn’t believe the results on the court.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
It's the Nellie effect
Always has to have a “big” that can (theoretically) shoot.
Takes time to rub the residue off.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
mebbe Cleveland
didn’t deliberately tank to get LeBron
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Aside from the 9ers, the bay area team are doing respectively well
(alright. minus this game folks) Seriously, did the Giants set the tone for the season?
Let's hope so
But I could do less with the torture
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
It's only one game...
but we gave them the game, and we could have used a road win against a struggling team. We’ll move on and not beat ourselves next game.
Serving it up night in and night out -Steph "The Chef" Curry
by dont_stop_believin' on Nov 7, 2010 6:26 PM PST reply actions
"struggling team"
After losing to the Nets to open the season, the Pistons lost to OKC, CHI, BOS, and ATL and beat CHA.
It’s not like they’re the Clippers or something.
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by Badly Browned on Nov 7, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
don't understand what smart is seeing in certain players
gad, lin >> radman, bell
bwright, carney > reggie
Um..
We got new owners yet, orrr?
PFortyy :)
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