Warriors Game Day Links: Golden State Warriors 109 @ Toronto Raptors 102 - A potentially expensive 1st road victory: Monta hurt, looked bad.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 8, 2010 7:12 PM PST
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StoryStream: Warriors Get First Road Win, Defeat Raptors 109-102
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Game thread: G Day Thread: Golden State Warriors vs. Toronto Raptors
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Recaps
Associated Press recap: Curry scores 34, Warriors beat Raptors 109-102 | Photo Gallery
Sports Network recap: Curry, Warriors get back on track with win over Raptors
Feltbot recap: Add Curry and Stir: Warriors 109 Raptors 102
Marcus Thompson II recap: Golden State Warriors' win over Toronto Raptors marred by Monta Ellis' back injury
Rusty Simmons recap: Warriors get first road win
Adam Lauridsen recap: Nice Win/Big Loss (Warriors 109, Raptors 102)
Pregame News
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Pregame Videos
- No pregame videos found.
Postgame News
- An article on Monta's injury in te 4th qtr.
Rusty Simmons: Monta Ellis injured in awkward fall
- Near the end of the 1st qtr, Curry went to the locker room not because he was injured, but because he felt restricted by his ankle brace.
Marcus Thompson II: Golden State Warriors update: Stephen Curry eager to lose his ankle brace sooner than later
Postgame Videos
After the game, Jim interviews Curry.
Keith Smart in the hallway.
CSN highlights, recap.
Monta Ellis injury during the game.
Highlights by gumbyorpokey.
Recap and highlights from nba.com's game page:
Give and Go
Wright Slam
Warriors vs. Raptors: Video recap
Postgame Quotes and Stuff from warriors.com recap
Keith Smart
On Stephen Curry:
"He is still in that growth cycle. He is at the bottom of that growth cycle of learning. And maybe in a year he will be up there with the Jason Kidds, and guys like that, Williams and Billups, where they know how to control and manage a game. I have to be very, very patient with that so I have to deal with the bad. Right now, he is in a growth cycle and he will continue to develop."
On The Team's Rebounding:
"I just think we are doing our case with rebounding. That is going to be our calling card. As long as we can limit teams to one-shot opportunities we are going to have a chance to be close in games. When you give them a second and third, most offensive rebounds end up in a wide open three, so we have got to take that away."
David Lee
On Today's Game:
"More than anything we needed a road victory and needed to play well on the road. We still didn’t play great tonight but we played well enough. I know that I needed to bring a lot of energy tonight to lead us, lead us emotionally on the road. I think we came out a little bit flat in Detroit."
On This Game Being A Confidence Booster For Him:
"This was a huge confidence booster for me and I think that I turned the corner as far as offensively, being a little bit more comfortable with what we are doing. If it wasn’t for foul trouble I probably would have had a much better scoring game. Either way we got the win and let’s hope Monta (Ellis) is okay."
On How The Warriors Responded Down The Stretch:
"That is what is tough about playing on the road, teams are always going to make a run at the end. Toronto is a good team at home and they made their run and we were able to get some key buckets. Steph (Curry) did a great job down the stretch making some tough ones."
Stephen Curry On Coming Back To Toronto: "I am familiar with the rims, it’s a pretty familiar environment and arena and it feels good when I come back."
On The Team's Slow Start Tonight:
"That is two games in a row where we haven’t got off to a great start on the road. It was a great timeout called by Coach to get us calmed down, back focused and we went on an 8-0 run and got the tempo back on our side. Two careless turnovers by me to start the game, but we got ourselves back into it and finished strong."
On Toronto's Comeback Attempt:
"Anytime you get the lead you want to get the kill, keep the pressure on the gas and keep attacking. In the third quarter we made some careless turnovers and played a little lackadaisical on offence and they got some easy transition baskets and got their crowd back into it. They feed off of their crowd. When they start to hear their crowd and get the energy going and we kept our composure in the fourth quarter and some big shots to seal the deal."
Interesting Tweets
(after the game)
warriors: Report from Toronto regarding Ellis injury: He will receive X-rays on his lower back with results in the morning.
gswscribe: Warriors announced Ellis' X-ray results will be available tomorrow. He is staying overnight in Toronto while the team goes to NY
Notes
- Rusty's recap says that Charlie Bell "fines" Stephen Curry for each of his turnovers.
What's next?
- We head over to New York for David Lee's "homecoming", plus we'll see Ronny Turiaf and Anthony Randolph on the Knicks.
- We await news on Monta's injury he suffered late in the game.
| Day | Date | Time | Opponent | TV | Radio |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed | Nov 10 | 4:30pm | @Knicks | CSNBayHD | KNBR 1050 |
| Thu | Nov 11 | 5:00pm | @Bulls | CSNBayHD | KNBR 1050 |
| Sat | Nov 13 | 5:30pm | @Bucks | CSNBayHD | KNBR 680 |
| Mon | Nov 15 | 7:30pm | Pistons | CSNBayHD | KNBR 680 |
| Fri | Nov 19 | 7:30pm | Knicks | CSNBayHD | KNBR 680 |
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I hope Ellis is okay…
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
The injury curse begins?
So what was Ekpe and Lour injuries?
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
Yeah, I know, I know
I was thinking that this is the 1st injury that we have to suffer through in a real game.
Well, Curry was injured in Game 1 (and 2) :D
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 8, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I know
But I was thinking about ones that’s serious, that just deflates you when you see it, that just makes you facepalm in disgust.
agreed
even the raptors announcers talked about the “warriors curse,” stating that “obviously there’s something larger at play here.” man. For the team, I’m worried. For monta, individually, I really hope it’s nothing serious. Spinal injuries are as potentially dangerous as they get.
All injuries are serious if it keeps someone out of a game.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
with regards to the team, yes
but hurting your spine is much more dangerous from an individual standpoint than, say, your ankle or your wrist. Hurting your spine is how you potentially get paralyzed.
Thanks, IQ
appreciate your work, as always
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
You're welcome
You know, these day games suck for me, because writers aren’t on a deadline to write until later in the evening, so I have check back later.
Thanks for the effort. I don't know how you do this!
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 8, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
I have a super strong work ethic
and I don’t have a life right now
Your life is the Warriors!
And it’s a happy year!
…right? right?
We still believe!!
Become a fan on facebook! www.facebook.com/goldenstateofmind
Hahahaha
You can’t be “happy” watching the Warriors. You have to be gritty, strong-willed, with a never-say-die attitude to follow them,
Oh, well lets hope the Warriors can be good this year. That'll be a good life?
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 8, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
I got other, non-Warriors things to take care of in my life, which of course, I won’t mention here. It would help if the Warriors had a good year, but given the team struggles on offense so far, plus an unreliable bench, I’ve already prepared myself for a gritty, rebuilding season until Riley builds a good bench, and until Smart gets his rookie coaching season under his belt.
Much better rotations tonight
and Vladi with a block to make up for his giveaway – a much better performance tonight.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
Yeah but he went back to small ball for the 4th quarter with Vladi in at center.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 8, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Vladi only cost us 1 point in 6 minutes – I’m generous, when we’re up sufficiently at the start of his time, I can live with that.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
I didn't care for our 4th qtr lineups
Smart got away from our defenders and rebounders and they weren’t protecting the paint. Toronto should have never made it that close. I know Smart is trying to use everyone and save bodies and not over work anyone. Guess the lack of depth with big men kind of hurts right now.
true
although I wish B Wright had played more in the fourth. I know VladRad can space the floor, but I’d rather some defense and shotblocking, which Wright brings.
Oh that reminds me
The more FTs I see Biedrins misses, the more I’m annoyed he didn’t try the underhanded FT.
That would make too much sense
And would offend his pride. (I say that as a former underhand freethrow shooter—it is the most accurate way to shoot, but your teammates and opponents will definitely get on you about it.)
@WorldBLee
That's got to be better than making the record books again with a 0% FT
I think the requirement is pretty low, like 20 FT attempts in a season to be legit. The few times he has shot it, they LOOK better, but 1 hasn’t fallen in yet.
reason for adres not being in the 4th is because they would of played the "Hack a Shaq" on him
DUBfan4life!!!!
by BayAreaKidd650 on Nov 8, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
I love that term, “hack a Shaq”. I agree but they could minimize the touches he has on offense in latter part of the game. Even Wright would be a good option, he brings offense to the table. Mostly we need the defense in a game where you have a nice lead.
I had a thought
I know that Jeremy Lin played well in the 1st half, but I wonder why he did in the 3rd qtr to get subbed back out. I remember late in the 3rd qtr, I looked at the box score, and we went back to mostly starters against their bench unit. I THINK it has something to do with the sloppy plays off the bench when they came in, but perhaps someone who recorded the game can check.
really bad pass
threw an easy pass out of reach, bad concentration.
good 1st half though. i’d rather have him as back up pg than bell, for sure
That "bad pass" was totally on Monta
If you’re a smallish guard posting up 35ft from the basket denmanding the ball then you have to pop back at the time of the pass to recieve it. If you’re Magic Johnson and can fend off your man then yes you want that ball within arms length. However the quick hook was justified as Lin was always a little off with his defensive positioning. Who doesn’t like what they see in this kid though, he’s already very proficient at drive and kick but he’s going to have to make a jump shot one of these days
by Rainbows in my shorts on Nov 9, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
nt sure it was something he did, or that we just needed Curry
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
That's possible
but Lin looked like he was owning Calderon, so I was surprised Smart didn’t keep Lin on Calderon again when Calderon came back late in the 3rd.
there was a bad pass
but more, Lin isn’t the offensive threat any of our other guards are. It’ll come in time. Right now he’s played like a slightly-above-average rookie guard for over 30 minutes. If that’s his development level right now, we should all be thrilled.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
absolutely
He was impressive in the first half. So much so that I might get off my “send him to the D-league” high horse.
A Sonics fan without a team... but after 7 seasons now of GS Warriors season tickets have convinced me to adopt the boys from Oakland.
You could already see the Raps adjusting to Lin to end the half.
Lin never really looked as good as he did in the 1st half.
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 8, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
All right, I'll take you guys word on it
I kind of stopped paying attention to the game in the 3rd when it looked so easy
I do remember more Raptors collapsed on Lin as he drove on one play
that’s all I remember
Tor held their own 'asian heritage night' this game
just a coincidence that Adrien was inactive so Lin could play on 2/2 of these special nights ? Tor made its bid to get back into the game in the second half with Curry and Lee both on the bench and Lin back in. After Curry returned, the run by Tor continued 10-0 and Ellis had two free throws, missing two, and finally after 12 straight points Curry hit a shot. With relatively few reliable perimeter scorers on the team, it won’t be easy to find situations for Lin — so far his longest stints have been when the team is well ahead or way behind.
Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)
If he could hit a jumper, I’d want him in more. As it is, he’s a little shaky so far. Still, I like him a lot. He’s got a great motor.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is Monta Ellis when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
To be fair, it makes much more sense to Lin to be active right now than Adrien -
- since we’re trying to protect Curry’s ankle.
Hmm
gswscribe Marcus Thompson
Warriors announced Ellis’ X-ray results will be available tomorrow. He is staying overnight in Toronto while the team goes to NY.
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
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gswscribe tweet about Monta not going to NY
That's all for now
I’ll check back in a couple hours
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Associated Press recap and photo gallery
ugly win
should of been an easier win if smart didnt take eternity to call an obvious timeout..
not having monta for ny and chi town will cost us…
Thank god for the day off tomorrow
Hopefully monta will be ok and will be able to give it a go for wed against the knicks, i don’t know if we can keep winning the way we are without the NBA scoring leader.
by GarciaWarriors8 on Nov 8, 2010 8:24 PM PST reply actions
came home happy seeing we won...
then i see that monta was hurt in the process…….(insert ragetoon face)…. hope it turns out not to serious
These posts make me think we lost the game
Lots of debbie downers here these days
We are 5-2 people! It is hard to win in the NBA – even teams like Detroit can stun you – we did that to good teams when we sucked too.
Yaaah for win! Good job by Beans in the first quarter and Lee in the second. Good job by Monta the whole game and Steph in the second half. Good job by Lin and BW off the bench. Good job by Smart with timely time outs called and making Barnangi a non-factor really.
Enjoy the wins people – last year we celebrated close losses – now we can celebrate wins, even ugly ones!
The
Is it just me that can’t stand Barnett’s annoying know-it-all never surprised always right never forgets to pat himself on the back-ness? Get him
by GrayDilla on Nov 8, 2010 8:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I like Jb, he's getting annoying however but maybe it's just that Fitz is so horrible.
by GovernorStephCurry on Nov 8, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Lol not a chance! I Love bob, his show and him on the sideline. Barnett is a virus
by GrayDilla on Nov 8, 2010 9:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Is this a bannable offense? Mods?
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 9, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
Lol, I guess I just have to accept that not
Everyone shares the hatred I have for Jim Barnett. I don’t question his knowledge, just the way he presents it.
by GrayDilla on Nov 9, 2010 8:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Gotta flag this
This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM
by disguy on Nov 9, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think you're confusing the two.
Barnett has been part of award winning commentary duos. Bob is the worst thing ever.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 9, 2010 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
LOL! Jim Barnett is awful, I’d take 2 bobs any day over JB + fitz
by GrayDilla on Nov 9, 2010 8:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wow. I hope I never have to meet the guy who actually like Bob Fitzgerald in person. That sounds brutal.
I believe that ghosts are like dogs. They just do things arbitrarily.
by Reverend_Randy on Nov 10, 2010 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
It must be the JB jumpshot. I don’t get it though, what exactly makes fitz so terrible? I mean I hear you say how bad he is but not why.
by GrayDilla on Nov 10, 2010 4:17 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
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Highlights by gumbyorpokey, postgame quotes, CSN highlights and recap
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nba.com’s video recap. It includes Curry’s failed or blocked dunk at the end of the 3rd.
Just noticed Jack was yelling at the ref "3 seconds!!!"
When Monta was on the floor…ass
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
LOL
A player’s collapsed on the floor and can’t leave the key so he calls 3 seconds. awesome
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Nov 8, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
what an asshole indeed.
not only is jarrett jack brothers with sam cassell, but he is stupid as well!
was that actually what he was yelling?
it seemed like he was trying to get the ref to call an injury timeout. that ref can’t make a 3-second call, I think he was just getting his attention towards an injured player before anything worse happened.
Added
Recap: Feltbot, MT2
Postgame articles: Rusty on Monta’s injury, MT2 on Curry’s ankle brace
Video: Keith Smart in the hallway
Interesting
The characteristics Keith Smart sees in Radman is that he’s a vet, he’s calm, not nervous, and understands how to play, and has confidence in him.
Yah. He's usually in the right spots. You could see that from his first game here last year.
He just isn’t good at anything else.
play like a 1 man guy
by bloodsweatndonuts on Nov 8, 2010 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
He did a good job defending on the perimeter when he switches and slows down the guy with the ball and body him and keep him on the perimeter. Those are the subtle things I see in him.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 8, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
i dono
did you see him try to D up AK in the jazz game. He exhibited really poor judgement over and over
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Nov 9, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he really sucked in that Jazz game
And that would explain why Smart yanked him and didn’t play him in that game. But in other games, I do see him do some of subtle things correctly, like bodying people and switching to the correct player without hesitation as the opponent moves around on offense. Not perfectly every time, but often enough for me to wish that other players demonstrated those components in their defense.
Like for example, when defending the pick and roll, he’ll switch to the opposing guard and body up against him, preventing the guard from making a pass and keeping the guard around the perimeter until the opposing guard backs off to try something different. I’ve noticed this enough times to say that Radman’s defense there isn’t some fluke, but that he played it correctly.
So I do see some of the nice and surprisingly correct things he does defensively, even from last season. And I try to mention them during open threads. And I think those components are what Smart sees, so he has to use them when he can and when nobody else on the bench can do it. But his bad shooting is what sticks out like a sore thumb and catches everyone’s attention.
And yeah, he’s not a consistent player, which is why he will get benched in some games and play more minutes in other games.
see here's the thing though
i don’t care that radman has all the self confidence of a fat kid at fat camp. I expect him to not make shots; it is who he is, and has been ever since he was in LA even if the stats don’t show it. But I do expect him to make smart decisions on D, cuz that’s all he has. It’s what Phil Jackson continuously praised him for while in LA (i was living in socal then, listened to a lot of AM570), and it’s supposedly why he’s getting playing time over Bwright. So if I see him make any error at all, I’m especially hard on him because he’s not going to score points for me, he’s not going to stretch the D with the threat of his offensive ability, etc etc. It’s all he’s got.
So I expect him to play smart, error-free Defense, and if he doesn’t, he’s not worth it. I don’t care about consistency when it comes to his scoring or whatever; but if his defense is also inconsistent then he needs to get off the floor and stay off.
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Nov 9, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I understand where you're coming from
But put yourself in Smart’s shoes. If you’re going to be hard on Radman for the defensive inconsistency he brings and keep him off the floor, then you must also be equally hard for the inconsistencies the other bench players bring as well, which includes Reggie, Carney, Bell, BWright, Gadz, and Lin, which means you’d have to keep them all off the floor. But now you’re playing a 5 man rotation with no bench at all.
So all Smart can do is mix and match his bench based on whether he thinks those players will have success against the current opponent. And if they end up totally sucking, he yanks them out. I already mentioned Smart yanking out Radman in that Jazz game. Another example was last night: Smart played Lin vs the Raptors, I presume because he thought Lin would do well against the Raptors bench players. And Lin did do well against Calderon in the 2nd qtr. But something must have gone wrong in the 3rd qtr, because Smart pulled Lin out and put Curry back for the rest of the game.
So even though I cringe every time Radman takes a shot, and I know he’s not always defensively perfect, I understand why he’s out there, because he CAN be useful at times and for certain tasks. And in order to keep the starting 5 happy and not burnt out, we have to “weather the storm” and squeeze every drop of usefulness out of Radman until Larry Riley can build a real bench.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 10, 2010 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
Radman does everything except finish...
Kind of an important one there, considering his rep is as a “shooter”
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 8, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Well, everything, but not necessarily does everything well.
That TO in Detroit was just plain /facepalm
The San Francisco 49ers, inventing new ways to lose every week!
by Badly Browned on Nov 8, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
For those who can't see the video,
Smart doesn’t coach by giving minutes just to give him minutes. He has to go on the feel of the game. He expects to have a “Reggie night” later on, and then the same question will be asked about someone else’s minutes.
by IQofaWarrior on Nov 8, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
IQofaWarrior
You do a great job m8ty, this is what I look forward to after the games,,,well done….and thanks…
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Recaps: Rusty Simmons, Adam Lauridsen
Other: 1 note, gameflow
Lin
plays good team defense and challenges shots. He did get beat by Jack off the dribble, so Lin needs to make adjustments.
that's why
I was so pleased that Monta is going hard against him in practice. If he can even come close to handling Monta, he’ll be just fine defending normal humans.
Baseball is a chamber orchestra. Football is a marching band. Basketball is a modern quintet. jazz, rock, hiphop, pop/ all about the beat./ still my revolution not/ til you dance through it.
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