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And people wondered why....

I said that Curry clearly had higher Basketball IQ than Anthony Randolph? Because the basketball IQ extends to more than just on the court… its a desire to learn and improve and show that you can absorb what you need to do.

It will be a great shame if we trade Randolph because he is too bonehead stupid not to realise that he ‘MUST’ be showing a dedication to learn and improve and be part of the team… He has fantastic RAW talent…. but as with many young men (I was the same at his age) you tend to think you know best…you have an arrogance that is apparent, like his rejection of assitance from one of our past greats…I forget who it was?

SOMEONE..clearly needs to become this kids personal mentor, agent, guardian, life coach…whatever you want to call it… and get his head in gear….otherwise he is out of here…

Hell…I would do it in a heartbeat…..and I guarantee that within a month….you would not recognise the kid by his attitude and general demeanor…but clearly, whoever IS meant to be working with him…simply is not getting through to him…

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by BritWarriorGSW on Feb 11, 2010 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

like his rejection of assitance from one of our past greats…I forget who it was?

Really? Don’t recall anything like that. Could you please elaborate?

Closest thing I can think of is Biedrins not wanting to learn the under hand free throw from rick barry, which would’ve GREATLY improved his shots at the line, haha

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by JustSomeName on Feb 11, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Or he’s confusing Anthony Randolph with Andrew Bynum.

by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 11, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

No it was either Nate or Al...or someone that offered him some advice/coaching..

and I think he said something along the lines of ‘thanks, but I will find my own way’ or something to that effect…..someone posted it here at the start of the season… I just cannot find it.

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by BritWarriorGSW on Feb 11, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I would do it in a heartbeat…..and I guarantee that within a month….you would not recognise the kid by his attitude and general demeanor

Haha, in a month his posse would probably have you serving them drinks in a tutu? .

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 11, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha. I love it when Brit does that! My posse likes to call him “Jeeves.”

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 11, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Sleepy, sleepy, sleepy...

You really dont know much about Brits do you….

‘Jeeves’ is an upper class, skinny, toff, of priviledged background…me…. not so much! You could probably compare me better to a more sophisticated Vinny Jones! :-) THAT…might be a tad closer…

Oh and I dont think I will stoop low enough to state what my ‘posse’ calls you… ;-)

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by BritWarriorGSW on Feb 11, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Aw come on, Brit, stoop! I know how much GSoM readers must love our “Petty and Snide” routine… ;-)

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 11, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Er...No Sir...

I dont like it…..

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by BritWarriorGSW on Feb 11, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha

Funny guy… but seriously… I am a big enough fella to have some presence of my own and been in enough interesting scenarios around the world…not be affraid of his ‘posse’ as you call these kids…

But thats not the point…

The point is someone to show him (not his posse) how to look at things from a professional perspective and to show him just how easily if he does ‘X’ he is very likely to achieve ‘Y’… Is that going to be me…no…but do I think I could offer some guidance as to how he might change things…absolutely…whether he chooses to then do them, would be his choice..

But in reality you knew what I meant, but just wanted to make a typical Skeptic type of comment…well..good for you! ;-)

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by BritWarriorGSW on Feb 11, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I am a big enough fella to have some presence of my own

well depending if you carry the presence high or low you might pull it off, I’m guessing the posse will also require red stiletto heels?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 11, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha. I think I saw him last week in the game arcade at Chuck E. Cheese…

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by Sleepy Freud on Feb 11, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Chuck E. Cheese…

    I really miss that mechanical elvis.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 11, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha

AR is all over the Walnut Creek club scene.

But I really don’t know if I believe he’d leave in the first Q to go to a club. Who gets to a club at 9PM?!?!

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I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.

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by kenntoe on Feb 11, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Who gets to a club at 9PM?!?!

 maybe for little Miss Right?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 11, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

AR is all over the Walnut Creek club scene.

  Let those beyond discouragement throw the first bench at the kid,when you think about it who among us wouldn’t rather go to a club and get drunk than watch a typical warriors game this season? Even Curry-bury’s double,double, and 9/10th’s didn’t feel that good when I thought about the lost lotto balls.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 11, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

AR is all over the Walnut Creek club scene.

LOL, running the dance floor at spin? Crogans?

by tafkasam on Feb 11, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Well wasn’t Spin the place he got in a fight at in the preseason?

by Missing Barry on Feb 12, 2010 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

was it really?

i didn’t know that, lol.

That place is pretty small btw, which is why i laugh at notion of “Walnut creek club scene”. He’d stand out like a sore thumb…. small bar…. 6-11 guy.

oh and the fact he’s 20

by tafkasam on Feb 12, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I avoid the club scene myself, but it looks pretty small anytime I walk by on my way to Mr. Lucky’s….

by Missing Barry on Feb 12, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

mr. lucky's is no better than spin!

i’m a fan of 1515 personally, cougar heaven. Though i rarely am every in WC anymore since i dont live there anymore

by tafkasam on Feb 12, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

This pisses me off. Maggette is a stud, by the way. Good man.

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by Naticus2 on Feb 11, 2010 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

Did you notice

He was there last night during pregame introductions greeting his old teammates like Kamen, and all of a sudden, he wasn’t there on the bench to watch the game at all. What happened, did he leave midway into the 1st or something?

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by JustSomeName on Feb 11, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He doesn’t have to be there every game. No biggie. He, as a whole, has been supporting the team.

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by Naticus2 on Feb 11, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he left after the 1st

Not sure why, but at least he showed up.

by mosdl on Feb 12, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

It's sad to hear

that players are SURPRISED when injured teammates come to support them…for the first 12 minutes. Wow.

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by JR Repertoire on Feb 11, 2010 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

I just don't think it's an issue...

I was listening to the show when the guy called in and he said that he had heard that another caller during the morning show had called in and said AR was supposedly at a club. First off the story is already into a 3rd of 4th recalling of it. The main question is the guy isn’t allowed to go out at all? I don’t think this has anything to do with his character or work ethic because the guy was an animal this off-season & in the gym with Morrow working on his game all summer. So much so that USA Basketball gave him an invite but all that is forgotten b/c the guys was seen out at a club? Plus I remember both calls (Nellie show and Original Call) and it wasn’t like AR was going crazy and pulling a PAC-Man at the club, the guy was just sitting at his table with his friends. Is that not allowed anymore?

Plus, as for supporting the team, I always see AR in the Corridor behind the Dubs bench along with Azabuike. So just because they aren’t on the bench doesn’t mean that they aren’t there in the building. But since we don’t see them we assume that they want nothing to do with the team…

I just think this organization has bigger problems and seeing AR out isn’t necessarily one of them. Or did we forget that many of these guys are in there early 20’s…

by UCdubsFan on Feb 11, 2010 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

I think we pay these guys enough money that they should be able to take 3 hours out of every other day to sit and watch a basketball game.

by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 11, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think that’s a very fair way of putting it. Do you realize how much time and energy these guys do put into what they do? You make it sound like there’s not a whole lot of commitment involved….

by Missing Barry on Feb 11, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that the case when they’re injured as well though? I figure they spend time rehabbing, but is there only a small difference between rehab time and normal practice/gym time?

by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 11, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I was more commenting on how you phrased it – “they should be able to take 3 hours out of every other day to sit and watch a basketball game”. Just from their perspective, I think a lot of people wouldn’t think of it like that. It sounds like a small commitment the way you phrased it, but if I was a player, I’d probably think of it more along the lines of I’m putting thousands of hours into basketball and basketball related activities a year, I can’t do anything to help the team during those 3 hours….the commitment and time is already there (that’s how you make the NBA in the first place)….yeah, it’s not just as simple as just 3 hours every other day or so. They’re paid for a lot more than just that.

by Missing Barry on Feb 11, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont agree with this...
I can’t do anything to help the team during those 3 hours….

Being part of the team, even when not playing is VERY helpful. Not only can he see how his playing collagues work without him on the floor, he can learn from others playing an NBA game… Most importantly he is supporting his teamates and cheering them on when he can… but then to be fair I dont remember Randolph ever cheering any of his teamates on….

Mr Randolph has a great deal to learn yet! as do all young men that think they know it all….. eventually…the world kicks you in the backside and you realise that you have sooooo much to learn everyday.. and accepting advice and supporting others, actually bears more reward in the long term, than ploughing a lonely path to come to the same conclusion you could have found a lot quicker by simply listening…

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by BritWarriorGSW on Feb 11, 2010 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I see what you mean, but it’s still 3 hours that they committed to when they signed their contracts…

by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 11, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

And to be clear I don’t mind the rule they just made that they have to be there, I just don’t want to dismiss all the time they do put into it over a relatively small (in the sense of how much time it takes) event.

by Missing Barry on Feb 12, 2010 7:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Plus, as for supporting the team, I always see AR in the Corridor behind the Dubs bench along with Azabuike. So just because they aren’t on the bench doesn’t mean that they aren’t there in the building.

Maybe there wasn’t enough room on the bench…

And the nightclub incident is an issue because it was DURING a game. Now, he’s got a few things to learn going to nightclubs before 10PM, but that’s a separate issue. He shouldn’t be leaving the team to go sit in the corner at some random scene with his friends and NOT HAVE DRINKS (He’s still only 20 until the summer). He’s saying he’d rather be sitting around listening to music in the dark than watching his teammates do their job.

Trust me, learning english isn’t a waste of time. It is actually sort of useful.

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by Dubs fan in Boston on Feb 11, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus did anyone just get the feeling Nellie pulled that rule outta his arse?

From the way Nellie sounded it just seemed like he was making that rule up on the fly…Maybe it was just me but it didn’t seem like it was ever an issue before that caller.

by UCdubsFan on Feb 11, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

So...

We are getting head over heels over a “A friend of a friend of a friend of mine said this…”

Has any reputable source actually reported on this? And some caller on KNBR doesn’t count.

So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
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by Badly Browned on Feb 11, 2010 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

IT'S ALL NELLIE'S FAULT

The team doesn’t show up for a full game most nights, so why should any of the injured players be expected to? Nellie shouldn’t concern himself over what a 20 year old does after a game, but what the ones playing are doing during the game!

If AR shouldn’t be on his ankle, then shame on him! I’m sure he knows better than to risk resting that ankle or further injuring it by going to a club. If he doesn’t, then that’s on him! The only issue I may have is that AR wasn’t visibly present to show his support to the rest of the team! But who knows why he wasn’t there for the whole game. I sure don’t and I’m not going to sit here and make assumptions! I highly doubt he left the game early to go to the club, since the club wasn’t even open yet!

Hey Nellie…instead of growing white hairs over one of your players going clubbing, when you don’t have a policy on that, why don’t you worry about why we’ve been sucking so bad?! Thanks!

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by scottiepimppen on Feb 11, 2010 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

Whaat? I've seen Curry at Tres Gringos in San Jose

It’s just what teens do. It was funny because he said shhhhh because we all knew he wasn’t 21.

by bojangles408 on Feb 11, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

Curry IS 21

His birthday is listed as Mar 14, 1988, so he’s been 21 before he was even drafted, doubt you would’ve seen him at a club in san jose before the NBA draft…

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by JustSomeName on Feb 11, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope you're wrong.

He’s too talented to just let go for off court reasons. A lot of players in the league are hard headed. A large part of coaching in the NBA is being able to manage egos. Unfortunately, Nellie’s at a point in his career where he doesn’t want to do that anymore.

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by JonDoe on Feb 11, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Based on.....what exactly?

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I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.

RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."

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by kenntoe on Feb 11, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not like this is something new, or something that’s confined to the younger guys, either… both Jack and Maggette skipped the vast majority of the games they were injured for last season. Frankly, this rule should’ve been put in place a while ago.

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by onlxn on Feb 11, 2010 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

That's why it seems like Nellie pulled the rule outta his arse during the interview..

IMO…I just don’t see this as an issue…Let’s just focus on the “SUCK” that is the front office…

by UCdubsFan on Feb 11, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Did a little thinking about this

I think I understand why such a requirement for injured players isn’t in place before. If a player is injured, you want to let him recover in an environment that’s safe from reaggravating the injury. You don’t want to be responsible for causing the reinjury because you made the player do something or be somewhere.

So if a coach, team, or the NBA required players to be at the games, and if Stephen Jackson restubs his toe after his toe surgery, or if Raja Bell reinjures his wrist defending himself from a basketball flying his way, or if Yao Ming refractures his foot because he stepped on something in their arena, then the fans will blame the coach/team/NBA for forcing a player to be in the arena, instead of being at home protecting his toe/wrist/foot/etc.

Now, I don’t know if Nellie made this new policy solely on Randolph’s nightclub story. I’d like to hear the entire fan question and his answer before making that judgement. It’s possible that there have been other injured players who are shuttling themselves in and out of the arena during a game, which itself would be a distraction for the healthy players. And it’s possible that the Randolph nightclub story was the worst example of all, forcing Nellie into the new policy.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 11, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Many have not been with the team during their rehabilitations, including Raja Bell, who has been in Miami since his Dec. 3 wrist surgery. Bell is expected to rejoin the team Tuesday.

Does that mean?

by placid on Feb 11, 2010 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

fansvscohan! yes!

I love it that the first comment following the article is to boycott the games.

Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!

by bonbrillio on Feb 11, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

where in this article does it say AR is clubbing?

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by monta.da.boss on Feb 11, 2010 7:51 PM PST reply actions  

Nelson was told that Randolph left one game after the first quarter and was at a nightclub during another game.

Right before the bit about Buike.

by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 11, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, i guess i skimmed right over it.

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by monta.da.boss on Feb 11, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this is a great rule

It was absolutely disgraceful last year when many players like Jackson and Ellis were absent on FAN APPRECIATION NIGHT of all nights. If I remember correctly, Crawford was one of the only veterans there to support the team – doing a classy thing that basically wrote him off by publicly saying that they would try to trade him if he didn’t opt out.

Being on the bench for your team serves lots of purposes, but the two that stand out for me are that 1) it boosts morale to see your teammates rooting for you, and 2) it lets the players look at the game from another angle, which leads to LEARNING more about the game. Even Maggette and Ellis, our top two scorers, have a bit to learn about the game (like court vision, defense, awareness, etc).

by ryogahibiki on Feb 12, 2010 9:52 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Typical Warriors

Inmates running the asylum b/c management is too busy trying to screw the fans and ownership too concerned about profit to worry about what the players are doing.

Here’s my question: If this is/has been a looming problem, why is it public? Doesn’t Nellie know if someone should be on the bench during game-time? Can he not speak to AR et al privately if there is an issue?

It’s just another example of a senile, old, confused man who should be playing poker and drinking scotch on the beach in Maui rather than trying to run an NBA team.

by UncleCliffy on Feb 12, 2010 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

It’s just another example of a senile, old, confused man who should be playing poker and drinking scotch on the beach in Maui rather than trying to run an NBA team.

 It’s more likely Nellie doesn’t care but had to say something to placate the peanut galley? If Nellie truly thought the players needed to be there they would have been told that a long time ago, he’s probably got it figured out by now that the walking wounded sitting on the bench doesn’t win or lose games? .Nellie was on record saying Iverson was right about his “practice” speech so he’s no fool when it comes to team and player dynamics. The club scene might do more for Rudolfs recovery than the oracle scene on game night, who’s to say what works best for someone they don’t really know?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 12, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

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