RUMOR: Warriors looking to dump Andris Biedrins' contract to "achieve cost-savings"
by Atma Brother ONE on Feb 12, 2010 4:08 PM PST
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Over at CBS Sports Ken Berger writes in Post-Ups All-Star Edition:
The Warriors continue to peddle Andris Biedrins (four years and $36 million left) to achieve cost-savings
Now don't get me wrong. It's perfectly reasonable and understandable that the Warriors would want to trade Andris Biedrins. He's an elite rebounder and by all accounts a good veteran teammate, which counts for a lot on a franchise that gets beat on the glass nightly and recently had to part ways with the fraudulent Captain Jack. But the reality is he's probably leveled off and has been fairly injury prone the past 2 seasons. He is far from being the untradeable big man you build around with his incredibly soft defense (though he has had two welcome HUGE nights protecting the paint this season), ridiculous foul rate, weak screens which he rolls from way too early, lack of any low post moves, and zero commitment to developing a jump shot or free throw shot on par with your average 7th grade 12th man (yes, it's that horrendous- he's shooting 13% on the season).
BUT dumping Biedrins' contract just for the sake of lowering the payroll is not a win by any means for this team on the hardwood in the short or long term. Any expiring contracts the Warriors collect are not going to be used to net the likes of Pau Gasol or Kevin Garnett via trade. Chris Cohans' Warriors just let those go to waste to retain D-Leaguers. Any cap space the Warriors open up for the 2010 offseason and beyond is just going to be used to bid up the package a star player gets from another team (a la Gilbert Arenas and Elton Brand in the summer of 2008) or to overpay someone a la Corey Maggette.
Trading Biedrins is a fine strategy. He is by no means untouchable or a legit franchise cornerstone despite what Chris Mullin and Robert Rowell may have led you to believe 2 summers ago.
Trading Biedrins to simply dump his contract however is a loser move... meaning look for the Warriors to dump Biedrins' contract any day now.
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If getting rid of Biedrins 100% guarantees Larry Ellison to buy this team, then yes. If not, NO, HELL NO!
WARRIORS BASKETBALL!!! Patiently waiting for a title...I may be waiting for a long time...
theoretically it's easier to sell team w/ less liability
meaning less contracts.
Oh god...
that is the ugliest release I have ever seen in my life.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Feb 12, 2010 4:18 PM PST reply actions
Honesty hurts
It seems Cohen is broke, I shouldn’t say that he is not Mc Hammer broke but he seems to have financial problems. He traded Crawford for nothing you could say for free, he traded Capt Jack for injured player in Radmanovic and Bell. So he is getting some injury insurance right there. He doesnt seem to care about improving this team, David Stern already advised him to sell this team, so he is clearly on fire sale mood. Face the facts.
Waaaarriors
Yep
We’re through the looking glass, and bad is good. Trading valuable players for squat is maybe just maybe one more hint that an “under new management” sign is going to be hanging outside the arena soon. Or it could just mean that Cohan is still Cohan and Rowell is still Rowell. But I’m going to opt for the rosy view for a change and presume that dumb management decisions are, for a change, actually a positive sign for the future.
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by Sleepy Freud on Feb 12, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Okay. Let’s take a look at Andris Biedrins.
- He’s grabbing 18.8% of all possible rebounds. If he had enough minutes to qualify, this would be the sixth-best mark in the NBA.
- He’s grabbing 29.5% of all possible defensive rebounds, the best showing of his career to date. If he had enough minutes to qualify, this would be the fourth-best mark in the NBA.
- He’s blocking 4.5% of our opponents’ shots, also the best showing of his career to date. If he had enough minutes to qualify, this would be the 11th-best mark in the NBA.
- He’s shooting 62.9% from the field, also the best showing of his career to date. If he had enough minutes to qualify, this would be the best mark in the NBA. Let’s just say that again: nobody who’s played significant minutes is shooting as well as Andris Biedrins from the field. His free throw woes hurt his overall efficiency, but only a little — his 59.1 TS% is one of the forty best in the league, and above-average for a center. Biedrins, free-throw bricks and all, has scored more efficiently than Tim Duncan and Brook Lopez, and much more efficiently than Joakim Noah, Shaq, Chris Kaman or Al Jefferson.
- Biedrins has a 1.73 assist/turnover ratio, the fourth-best of any NBA center.
- Biedrins will cost $9 million for each of the next four years past this one — $9 million and ONLY $9 million, no matter how much bigger the cap gets.
- Biedrins is 23 years old.
Guess what you do with that guy? YOU KEEP HIM. You live with the free-throw shooting and try to convince him to skip playing for his national team this summer so he can work on it. You also drill into him that he needs to inch his foul rate back down. Other than that? You give him more minutes and more touches and let him continue to be the very good player he’s been for the last three-plus years.
You don’t dump a good young center on a decent contract for cap relief. This is one of the simplest tests an NBA franchise will ever face, and the fact that the Warriors are even considering it is downright scary.
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by onlxn on Feb 12, 2010 6:50 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
If ,If ,If ,If ?
If wishes were wings pigs would fly?
Playing minutes is something that wins games too, the most efficient player in the world is not much good if he can’t produce for a significant portion of the game or the season.
I think Dris has to be on a team that can use his specific skills set to be better than simply useful, I don’t know that I’d enjoy watchin a team exploit his skills as much as watching a more bruising team?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 12, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
I completely agree
If this team trades Biedrins for cap relief I am going to have to reconsider being a fan of this horrible horrible horrible nba franchise. Let’s cross our fingers and hope they don’t pull what I called earlier today one of the worst moves by this franchise ever!
It's all about the killer cross-over baby!
It's clear that this is not a basketball move but a greed move by Cohan
I don’t see anything happening but it worries me. There is no reason to trade a guy when he is playing well and is well worth his contract.
Also a question for a mod : I got warned for “Please collect your thoughts before posting. Comments on GSoM need to be thoughtful and cohesive to ensure good community discussions.” That sounds more like a request then saying what I did wrong, can someone explain this to me?
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I’d be pretty ticked if they did something like this. However, if it was immediately followed by the news of new ownership I think I could get over it.
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he is our only
decent rebounder both defensive and offensive, dump Maggs contract for all I care
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
The Rebounder
It would be tragic and stupid to let Biedrins go now and if it happens it only shows that jerk and Mr Ego/MeMe Stephen Jackson is right about the Warriors … they really don’t care in upper management to win. That is so sad. Jackson is a jerk but if this happens Cohen is even a bigger one for holding on to the team when he can’t afford it. People pay good money to see them play and the people calling the shots could give a damn what kind of team they are putting out there. Biedrins, Curry, Randolf, Maggette, Morrow, Ellis and a 1-3 round draft choice would be the basis of a good young team. If I was going to sell away a young guy it would be Ellis … he is making over $11 million and they could get a Quality young player in exchange for him. The Warriors have lots of guns and Curry could pick up the slack easily it seems … so trade Ellis for another good power forward while Ellis’s stock is on the high side. Trading Biedrins would be STUPID … He is their big man … young and getting better … Keep him! It has been sooo long since the Warriors have had a good big man!
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