RUMOR: Warriors trying to get Cavaliers to take Corey Maggette for Zydrunas Ilgauskas (i.e., expiring contract)
by Atma Brother ONE on Feb 14, 2010 10:13 AM PST
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UPDATE (11:54am): My man Seth has a great related piece Making Sense Of All The Amare Stoudemire Trade Rumors and Extension Talks over at Bright Side of the Sun.
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Now that the Dallas Mavericks and Washington Wizards have completed their Josh Howard, Drew Gooden, James Singleton, and Quinton Ross for Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood, and DeShawn Stevenson swap (see 2010 NBA Trade Deadline story stream), the hottest topic in the NBA scene is a brewing trade between the Phoenix Suns and Cleveland Cavaliers involving Amare Stoudemire and Zyndrunas Ilgauskas.
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Chris Broussard writes on ESPN.com Sources: Hickson, Ilgauskas to Suns:
The Cavaliers would send Zydrunas Ilgauskas and J.J. Hickson to Phoenix in exchange for Stoudemire, one of the league's most dominant big men.
While Cleveland remains in talks with several other teams, the club, from management down to the players, has settled on Stoudemire as its first choice.
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Cleveland is also talking with Washington about acquiring Antawn Jamison, as well as Indiana about Troy Murphy. Meanwhile, Golden State is trying to entice the Cavs into taking Corey Maggette for Ilgauskas.
I'm sick of seeing endless salary dumbs dumps by this team, but this one makes a lot of sense. Unlike trading Andris Biedrins right now (see RUMOR: NBA teams talking Anthony Morrow + Warriors asking price for Andris Biedrins too high) there isn't a more opportune moment of Corey Maggette's 5 year $50 million deal. He's netting nearly 21ppg in less than 13 attempts from the field and has only missed 4 of the Warriors 51 games this season. That's as good as it gets. There is virtually no upside to Maggette at this point and it's not like the Warriors are winning a ton of games with his maxed out production on a pretty lucrative long term deal.
If there's a time to sell high on Maggette, the time is now. Next season when he's 31 with a remaining 2 years on his deal at $21 million with additional wear and tear and most likely more missed games it's going to be even harder to move him. It might even be impossible and necessitate a contract buy-out which would have minimal benefits for the Warriors salary cap structure going forward.
A Maggette for Ilguaskas swap does not work straight up, so here's two possibilities:
- Corey Maggette + Devean George for Zyndrunas Ilgauskas + J.J. Hickson [ESPN Trade Machine]- At least this way the Warriors get a nice young piece with Hickson.
- Corey Maggette + Vladimir Radmanovic for Zyndrunas Ilgauskas + Jamario Moon [ESPN Trade Machine]: It's no secret that Nellie doesn't think Vlad is that rad. Maybe the Rad-man will have better luck in Cleveland with LeBron drawing double and triple teams.
* Remember the team that trades for Big Z will most likely buy him out. Big Z will then have to practice funky handshakes for 30 days by himself and then most likely re-sign with the Cavs.
On the Suns- If they pull off an Amare for Ilguaskas and Hickson trade that will cement Steve Kerr's status as one of the worst GMs of all time. Why would you ever make a trade like that? The Suns really aren't that far from collecting the 4th seed in the 2010 Western Conference Playoff bracket. Why blow up ship and rebuild now right after Nash was re-upped this past summer? Why take a salary dump trade like this when something along the likes of Andris Biedrins + Brandan Wright and more were on the table just a few months ago? Why not at least take Corey Maggette and try to do some damage this year? Simply put, what is Steve Kerr doing in Phoenix?
More from around the association on this deal and more:
- Cleveland LeBron's thoughts over at Fear the Sword
- Phoenix Suns thoughts over at Bright Side of the Sun- For what it's worth Jared Dudley isn't down
- Indiana Pacers thoughts over at Indy Cornrows
- Washington Wizards thoughts over at Bullets Forever
Amare 2 the Dubs Archives:
- RUMOR: Amare Stoudemire to Golden State Warriors, Corey Maggette to Phoenix Suns
- RUMOR: Golden State Warriors, Minnesota Timberwolves, and Cleveland Cavaliers interested in Phoenix Suns power forward Amare Stoudemire
- RUMOR: Ric Bucher thinks Amare Stoudemire to Warriors still happens
- RUMOR: Amare Stoudemire not that interested in the Warriors
- Weighing the Rumor: cases for and against a deal for Stoudemire
- RECAP: Warriors' 2009 NBA Draft Day - Stephen Curry & Amar'e
- Warriors Draft Day 2009: This Pretty Much Says It All
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RUMOR: Warriors inquired about Suns' Amare Stoudemire and offered Andris Biedrins
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The Cavs and Suns are close to having a trade that would send Big Z + Hickson for Stoudemire, so no way this is going to happen, unless Phoenix wants to back out.
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Cliffy: No way the Cavs do a Maggette deal.
Random GSoM Poster: But Cliffy, look at Maggette’s offensive efficiency numbers!!
Cliffy: LOL
by UncleCliffy on Feb 14, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not quite sure whats so LOL about that. Maggette at 10 mil is a better deal than Amare at 17.
Per 36 minute numbers:
Maggette-24.2 pts 7.0 rebs 2.9 asts 1.0 stls .1 blks 2.9 tov .626 TS%
Stoudemire- 22.0 pts 8.9 rebs 1.1 asts .7 stls 1.0 blks 2.8 tov .610 TS%
Stoudemire is also 4 inches taller and a few years younger but are a couple more rebounds per 36, a couple years in age and 4 inches really worth sacrificing a couple more assists, a little bit of offensive efficiency and 7 million dollars in salary? I dont think so. Neither guy has a great track record with injuries and neither one plays much defense at all… When you factor in cost I really dont see why the Cavs would prefer Amare unless its simply because Amare makes LeBron happier than Maggette. If thats the case then he’s certainly worth the extra money.
Thing A
Maggette plays better D at the 4 than Amar’e does… which is pathetic considering all the tools Stoudemire has.
I’m really concerned if i am a Cav’s fan. This is not only going to destroy your rebounding and defense, but who’s going to get Amar’e the ball.
How is he going to play next to Shaq again. Last time i checked, it didn’t work out.
Amar’e is SO reliant on Nash’s unbelievable passing, i doubt he’ll get more than 15-7 playing with the Cav’s while making them a worse defensive team….Wow, why does Lebron want this guy?
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well Stoudemire was just about as good statistically with Shaq as he was without him. I dont think its a smart move for the Cavs but it does add another high volume, high efficiency scorer and while he’s not quite Nash, LeBron is one of the best passers in the game. Also, like I said about Murphy, Varejao could really help to hide Amare’s pathetic D. If LeBron is convinced Amare will put Cleveland over the top then I think he’s wrong, but the Cavs still have to try to get him.
Thing A
I think the idea is that Amare works better with LeBron than Corey does.
Amare would be a guy who would thrive in the Lebron-centric system, lots of ball movement, finishing close to the basket.
Corey’s give-him-the-ball-on-the-wing-and-let-him-go-for-it doesn’t work so well for a team which wants the ball in LeBron’s hands as much as possible. AMare would be a great inside finisher for LeBron. Corey … not sure how he fits in.
And those “couple of rebounds” are actually something like 25% more rebounds – it’s a nontrivial difference and bigger than the difference in TS%.
Those couple rebounds are still 2 rebounds per 36 minutes from one position on the floor. Yes its a significant difference, perhaps more significant than the difference in TS%, but that wasn’t the point that I made. Is it more significant than the difference in TS% AND Maggette’s couple more assists per 36 minutes AND the 7 or 8 extra million dollars in salary?
Thing A
But the salary situation is more complex -
Because Amare probably opts out (see my other reply) meaning that you shed the salary sooner, the total cost of the contract is about the same.
UNLESS
They want to to make a three way trade where, Mags goes to the Suns, Z comes here and Amare goes to the Cavs. Oh SNAP…
by goaldenstateboy on Feb 14, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions
Nice,
Im sure the Suns want to trade Amare’s expiring contract for Maggette’s long term deal.
Thing B
by warriorsscore110 on Feb 14, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
The Suns are weighing other teams offers because they are getting better. If a better package for Stoudemire comes up (Philadelphia for example), then I would not be surprised if the Cavs pulled the trigger on a deal like this. They need to add another 20 point scorer to really contend with the Celtics and Lakers. Jamison probably won’t be traded (at least not to the Cavs because the Wizards dislike the Cavs), Murphy won’t help a playoff team a whole lot, and there is really not a whole lot available.
That means Maggette is the best option
Williams, Maggette, James, Hickson/Varejao, O’Neal
That would be a pretty solid starting lineup for them, or they could go with Maggs off the bench, or even sometimes go with LeBron at the 4 and Maggs at the 3 when they want to get up and down the court.
by duballers23 on Feb 14, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I agree, if the Suns can really get Dalembert and Iguodala for Amare they should jump at it, especially if it allows them to move another long term contract with Amare. I think Murphy could actually help a team like the Cavs, there arent many bigs in the league who rebound like him and there arent many bigs in the league that stretch the floor like him. HIs lack of defense severely limits his value but on a team with Varejao its less of a problem. Personally I think Maggette might be the best option considering the cost of all those players, but If I’m the Cavs the best option is whoever LeBron wants.
Thing A
If the Sun’s get Big Z, Hickson for J rich and Stoudemire, thats a good deal.
But if they got the best SG in the league this year according to Dave Berri in AI2 and a great rebounding, and great defensive center, they might be a legit threat to the Mavs, or Nuggets. I wouldn’t say Lakers, but heck, anything is possible.
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Lol
First of all, Cavs won’t take Maggette unless the Warriors include AR or Morrow. They have far more better offers then Maggette as far as I read, the Amare trade is done deal. The backup trade is Murphy without giving up Hickson. Yet, what matters is that Cohan is clearly desperate to get rid of big contracts, salary dump or fire sale call it what you like, I think he wants to minimize the payroll which could be a good thing meaning he selling the team or a bad thing meaning he is just being a cheap Cohan. What does this means to the fans? This team will remain whack for at least 3 more years get over it.
Waaaarriors
How is Amare at 17 million dollars per year (and he’ll cost you Hickson too) a better offer than Maggette+filler?
Thing A
Amare is an all star that can help persuade Lebron to stay. Big Z will be released ready for the playoff, they have a Small Forward in Lebron and Amare will be a PF starter ready to score 20pts and 8rbs. Thats what they really need a legit PF scorer not Varejo who is good defensive PF or Hickson a youngster who wont last in the playoff. Maggette instead of Amare, you might think Maggette is all that, everyone knows he is 6th man at best.
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Also remember that Amare will probably opt out after this year ...
So you’re just paying a few more mil for him this year.
This fits with the Cav’s goals, which is to make a run this year to convince LeBron to stay. Then they could bird-right Amare for a more reasonable long-term deal, and give Lebron the max.
will he though? why do you think that? I think any team that offers him more than the 17 mil he’d make next year by exercising his option is stupid.
Thing A
It's more complicated than that.
Because the collective bargaining situation is going to change … and I can guarantee you it’s going to change in a way that’s worse for players.
eg, Amare might be able to sign a five year deal this offseason … but only a three year deal if he doesn’t opt out. Furthermore, no, he won’t get $17m in the first year of a new deal, but five years starting at, say, $13m and going up each year, compared to $17m + 3 years of, what … probably more like $9m, without the automatic built-in raises.
Obviously, whether this makes sense depends a lot on just how bad you think the new CBA will be for players.
Here’s what i don’t get…. Why do media outlets keep reporting Jackson is making such a big improvement for the BETcats. The only reason they are decent, is because Gerald Wallace is playing like a top 10 player, and Nazr Mohammed is having a career year. Why would the Cav’s want Jackson taking away minutes from Delonte West and Mo Williams. Doesn’t make sense.
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Espn keeps saying the Cavs should have gotten Jackson while he was available. Well, hes not very good so why would you want him.
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Bro
Cavs will take anyone who they think will convince Lebron to stay and help them earn their first franchise. They are the best team in the NBA, if they get Amare, its over, they get a guy who can score when Lebron gets double team. To be honest, I hope Amare goes there, Cohan needs to pay the price for giving Maggette a 50 mill.
Waaaarriors
Some of you guys are kind of missing the point
Of course the Cavs would pick Amare over Maggette, but they may not have a choice if the Suns find a better deal or decide to hold onto Amare. I’m saying that Maggette is probably the best option if the Suns dont want to make the deal with the Cavs.
Why would Maggette be the best option behind Amare, they can go after others before that, I think Maggette is the last option. They would take Jamison, Murphy, TMac, A.I, etc. Maggette is good now cause he is playing for a lousy team and is putting huge numbers in a bad team. You bring Flip Murray and he would have a career year playing with the Warriors. Maggette with the Cavs is at best a sixth or seventh man. You dont pay rotation guys close to 9.6 mill a year. Cavs GM is smart enough to stay away from Warriors fantasy.
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Look up some stats puffy. Maggette is playing really well.
Cavs would want him over A.I. or T MAc
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Dude
Seriously, I dont wanna go back and forth with you. Maggette is playing well in a bad team, you think a GM is not aware of that, he is got huge contract remaining, you think the Stats matter for the Cavs? I don’t. They are a good team, they think about the future, only way they would take maggette is if GSW is willing to take another huge or mid contract plus give up our first rounder. You value Maggette way more then teams value him, how many times I read quotes stating that Maggette contract is as good as impossible to trade as it gets unless GSW is willing to package AR or Curry.
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Playing well on a bad team means he won't play well on a good team?
If he’s scoring so efficiently on a bad team, then he would do even better on a good team. When teams play the Warriors, Maggette is the second guy that they want to stop and there is al lot of attention on him. If he were to go to the Cavs, then LeBron, Williams, and Shaq will draw attention to free up Maggette for easy shots. It’s not like Maggette is playing against the Warriors and scoring against a bad defense, he is playing against every team in the NBA. I don’t buy that whole thing about scoring on a bad team means you won’t be able to score on a good team, it just doesn’t make sense. I think it actually means scoring will be easier for him on a good team.
by duballers23 on Feb 14, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, Maggette isn’t the reason we are bad. If he were scoring inefficiently like Monta maybe you could blame him, but Maggette, Curry, and Biedrins are the only reason we are not as bad as the Nets.
Those 3 deserve a lot of credit for putting together very good seasons.
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by MDB on Feb 14, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
are you familiar with the game of basketball?
toxic contract asside, maggette is an established, easily starting calibre player. maggs is a 6th man on the cavs only if they want more scoring off the bench, which is their prerogative.
i have to agree with MDB. famiarize yourself with some stats like EFF, and you will be capable of putting his performance in the appropriate context. playing with an EFF rating over 20, even on a bad team, is really quite good.
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Feb 14, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Maggette is easily playing at an all-star level right now. After Amar’e, I think Maggs is the best choice for the Cavs. It would provide the scoring power they need whenever Lebron is out of the game, something the are SORELY lacking and will come to bite them in the playoffs.
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What I don’t get is… why do the Cavs want to reunite Amar’e and Shaq? Do they really think they can make that situation work when the Suns failed to?
Also, talking about not being able to defend the pick n’ roll with Shaq in there… it’ll get even worse with both Amar’e and Shaq. At least JJ Hickson has a motor.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 14, 2010 1:18 PM PST reply actions
JJ Hickson D, sucks beyond what you can imagine.
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I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
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I'll do the Maggette+George trade for JJ and Big Z...
in a heartbeat!
We get an expiring contract and a young PF/Center.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Feb 14, 2010 1:21 PM PST reply actions
Well, BW and AR have shown to be much better than JJ, so why would we want him?
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Gives the team flexibilty
and it would enable the Warriors to make a deal involving Wright for a good player in the future. Plus JJ could probably play some center.
I get we are getting a decent player, but if he takes away time from far superior players in BW and AR, then no.
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Like duballer23 said...
we can use Hickson or trade him,I’m sure a lot of teams out there are willing to give up something special for him.
If that’s not the case then we can just trade Wright and keep Hickson as one of our own.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Feb 14, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Why trade Wright when he is far superior to Hickson?
I see us stockpiling talent, but you keep the better player.
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Wright
If he’s “far superior” to Hickson, then he can get us something better in return. I like Brandan, but I’m not against trading him.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 14, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
Look at the Per 36 for their careers. Wright is the more efficient, higher volume scorer, better rebounder, and better passer, and blocker.
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Understood
Like I said, if he is far superior, then he can get us something better in return in a trade.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 14, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
hmm. Not sure I get this one.
They’re both on rookie deals and both play the same position. JJ is not going to masquerade and play a good center. His defense sucks.
I’d much rather keep Wright. Hickson is half of what Brandan was, and about a quarter of what Brandan could be if healthy.
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I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
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I'm FOR keeping the better player.
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I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
Wow
Some of you think Maggette is a big name, he is not. He is a ok player one dimensional with huge contract, he is playing well for a lousy team, like I said you bring flip Murray here and he would have a career year. Maggette is a sixth man at a good team getting 9.6 mill, why would anyone take him unless GSW gives up a young talent along with him, Maggette is a bad contract last time I checked, we Radmanovic and Bell for a good player in Capt Jack, what makes you think we will get anything better for Maggette??? You want a reasonable trade for salary dump, Blount plus filler for Maggette. There you go.
Waaaarriors
Don’t you get that Maggette won’t get nearly as much defensive attention on the Cavs and will have more open shots? It’s not like he has to take 20 shots a game to get his 20 points. He takes 13 shots a game and his field goal percentage is 51%, which is at the top for wing players. The guy could take 10 shots for the Cavs and still score 20 points because he can get to the line.
Dude Puffy, he is putting up the best stats for a wing scorer on a shoddy team with a ton of attention on him. Don’t you think it is possible he would do better with less attention on him on a better team?
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Dude
Ain’t no one care about stats, they look at him as a bad contract, again a question to you why so many teams want Amare, tell me which team reported that they are interested in Maggette? You will always here GSW offering Maggette but no one is willing to take a bad contract. He could take 5 shots and score 20, it dont matter, he is a sixth man in a good team like the Cavs and getting paid $9.6 mill dont make sense to any good team.
Waaaarriors
I dont think he’s a big name. I dont even think he’s worth the money he’s being paid. I just think he’s a much, much better deal at 9.6 mil than Amare is at 17 mil. If Amare is a better player than Maggette (and I dont think he is, I think the only advantage he has is that he’s younger) its only slightly despite what all the all-star selections may tell you.
Thing A
Again
You know how many teams are after Amare? Cavs, Philly, Celtics, Wizards, Bulls, etc. How many teams are after Maggette??? I thought so. Maggette is a bad contract nobody wants unless u package a young talent. Period.
Waaaarriors
If the Cavs don’t get Amare, since so many teams are after him, then they are going to have alternative options. Maggette is probably the cheapest and best option for them. By you saying that Maggette is too expensive and that they would have to throw someone else in the deal to make it work, is not exactly true. I understand that you are just listening to mainstream NBA (ESPN) media, and that you go by everything they say, but if you took a look at Maggettes numbers compared to Amares, then you will se that there is not much of a difference.
Maggette 2010 salary: $8,937,931
PPG 20.8
RPG 6.1
APG 2.5
SPG 0.8
BPG 0.1
FG% 0.519
FT% 0.841
3P% 0.238
MPG 31.0
Shot attempts per game 12.8
Efficiency +20.26
Stoudemire 2010 salary: $16,378,325
PPG 21.2
RPG 8.6
APG 1.0
SPG 0.7
BPG 1.0
FG% 0.555
FT% 0.767
3P% 0.000
MPG 34.8
Shot attempts per game 14.3
Efficiency +21.74
If anyone is over paid, then it is Stoudemire. He makes close to double of what Maggette makes, with just slightly better numbers.
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Amare is a bigger name, a guy Lebron wants, do you think Lebron said go get me Maggette, he asked for Amare or Jamison. Cavs plays half court team defense, Maggette is a small forward, that position is occupied by the Franchise player. Maggette as PF for the Cavs dont work, they dont play small ball like the Warriors. Again, they wont trade for a bench player, I can guarantee you that. GSW is the one initiating the offer not the Cavs, Cavs know who they want and probably will get it done. As far as Maggette goes, look for a bum or two bums in exchange for him maybe Blount for Maggette. Cohan wants to fire sale.
Waaaarriors
Come on now
It would be pretty easy to fit LeBron and Corey in the lineup without having to go small at power forward. I’m pretty sure LeBron and Maggette could play the 2 and the 3 together, with Varejao or somebody else at power forward.
Can we all agree that Maggette looks like a second or third option for buying teams?
Looks like he’s no one’s first choice to flip for.
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I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
Super Bad contract that no one wants?
No. Not really. Unlike some of the other bad contracts out there, Maggette has been producing this season and has been very efficient. Because he has been playing well it shouldn’t be very difficult to trade Maggette to a playoff team for expirings. If Maggette is used as a 6th man option, he is even more valuable being that he doesn’t need to take a lot of shots to score.
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Most GM's don't care how efficient he is
It’s all about the money now a days. I think trading him to Nola for next years 1st rounder and Mo Pete can be done in the offseason. They srike me as a team that wants to cut salaries off of lack luster players like Peja and Posey while there willing to spend it on ones that help hem win. CP3 would have a nice safety blanket in Maggs.
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Kerr is stupid
He’d take Z and JJ for Amare but not Wright and Beans? Wow, just cause Beans has a long contract? Idiot.
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I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
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If the blazers were to trade ya for magg's
what would you guys expect/want in return?
by These Refs Suck on Feb 14, 2010 3:48 PM PST reply actions
Acctually...
I am a die hard blake fan it makes me happy someone wants him as hes constantly bashed by our crappy fans as well as trout…..
Trout and Blake are two of our best players in that they are great role players to compliment roy. However If we can get a good vet like magg’s I can easly see Kevin pritchard sending trout and blake. Given that blake is a FA next year and they would have to speak with him and get him to assure that he would accept a contract with them next year.
by These Refs Suck on Feb 14, 2010 4:06 PM PST reply actions
If there’s a time to sell high on Maggette, the time is now. Next season when he’s 31 with a remaining 2 years on his deal at $21 million with additional wear and tear and most likely more missed games it’s going to be even harder to move him. It might even be impossible and necessitate a contract buy-out which would have minimal benefits for the Warriors salary cap structure going forward.
is it really inconceivable that we keep maggette for the remaining two years and $21 million? sure, that contract will be even worse under the new collective bargaining agreement, and it will limit the dubs ability to acquire free agents for two years (as if that matter!!!), and cause the franchise to have a less attractive potential solvency for larry ellison, but it is at least possible he will continue to play well with limited injuries and ellison will buy the team anyway. in fact, i don’t mind living with that gamble at all.
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Feb 14, 2010 6:19 PM PST reply actions
Sell HIgh
The whole idea that they gotta be slick, and “sell high” is probably the single biggest reason they suck right now. It’s easy to argue that they did a good job moving players who were getting old, and putting together a young and talented team, but it’s a hypothetical argument because of all of the injures.
It’s even easier to argue that they decided to “sell high” on all but two of the players that made people say “we believe”
I hope at some point they actually manage to make a good trade, but since nobody wants to come here, they don’t have much leverage to angle towards a good trade right now.
Maggette stepped up A LOT after Jack left.
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