Who do you think should be the coach next year?
by dubzfan on Feb 16, 2010 1:06 AM PST
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Admits the GSOM civil war over Monta Ellis there seems to at least be one agreement. Don Nelson is our biggest issue second only to the duo of Robert Rowell and Chris Cohan. I think it's pretty safe to say he's not the right coach for a young team that is trying to find it's way. Lets assume he leaves next season, I'm wondering who you guys want to be the head coach here. With a young team we should be looking for a few qualities. Mainly a players coach, someone who the players can relate to and respect. Also someone who is hungry, wants to prove what he can do as a coach, someone who is motivated. Something Nellie is not. I've thought of a few guys that some people here have mentioned and some other names.
- Larry Drew, 52 : Currently he's an assistant coach for the Atlanta Hawks. He played 10 seasons in the NBA for the Clipper, Kings and Lakers from 1980 - 1990. He would come in and introduce a system similar to ours but more controlled and less small ball. He also helped with the development of Josh Smith and he may be able to help with our own Anthony Randolph.
- Brian Shaw, 43 : An Oakland native who is currently an assistant on the Lakers. He was handed the key to the city during all star weekend here in Oakland. He played from 1988-2003 and bounced around the league and even a short stint with the Warriors. He could come in and teach the triangle offense but he may incorporate other offenses as well seeing as though in his playing days he only got in the triangle for the later stages of his career.
- Adrian Dantley, 53 : Currently the head assistant in Denver and was the head coach of the rookies this year in the Rookie Challenge. Played from 1976 - 1991. He was a great player and spent most of his years with the Utah Jazz. He's a somewhat defensive minded coach and was a very fundamentally sound player.
- Elston Turner, 51 : An assistant coach in Houston and was heavily considered for the Minnesota job last year and was interviewed for the Suns coaching job as well. He has been pursued by many teams to be a head coach. He also played for Dallas, Denver and Chicago in the 80's. My personal choice for the job after seeing the great coaching job of Houston this year without Yao Ming and was considered a non playoff team and is now right in the middle of the chase for 8th.
- Tom Thibodeau : Currently the head assistant in Boston and is a defensive guru. He has been a head coach in the ivy league before and is a graduate from there as well. He has been around for a long time coaching (15+ years). He was interviewed for the Sacramento Kings job last summer and is expected to be head coach eventually in the NBA.
- Sam Mitchell : Former Raptors head coach, he took them to the playoffs and even the 4th seed at one point. As a player he was a student of the game and helped Chris Bosh's development to what it is today. He played from 1985 - 2002 for Indiana and the Wolves. He won coach of the year in 2007 as well.
Ok, make your choice for who you think should be the head coach!
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Doug Moe
LOL
Seriously and not seriously. He’s like Nellie gone wild without the crazy rotations. As we watch ourselves get another top pick, at least do it in style, and i mean 115-145 games.
banned like chris andersen
Larry Drew
He would come in and introduce a system similar to ours but more controlled and less small ball.Any Proof?
banned like chris andersen
He's been working with Atlanta's offense for awhile
And he has played in a lot of up and down sytems
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
Just natural he'd use a system he is used to
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
They get up and down pretty well as well
Showtime! (in case you don’t know thats a nickname for there offense in the ATL)
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
Not Joe Johnson going down the floor hitting 3's?
Bibby throwing it up top to Smoove on the break? If there as slow as you say there the funnest slow team to watch ever
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
Bill Laimbeer
A winner as a player and a coach.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 16, 2010 1:23 AM PST reply actions
you sound like
but actually i was about to write the same
-though Whomever LeBron, Wade, or Bosh would like sounds more reasonable
WTF FTW!
by Lat We N Trash on Feb 16, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
I think he’s perfect. A former player, fiery attitude… someone that the young guys will really respect. Not to mention the mean streak he might instill in Randolph or Wright.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 16, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, Lat: I just noticed your awesome sig-line.
WTF FTW! may be the best sig-line in the short history of sig-lines…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 16, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Liels paldies!
i just thought this sig pretty much sums up everything about W’s right now
WTF FTW!
by Lat We N Trash on Feb 16, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
I think you were looking for "Amidst"
I have no further input.
by randolphforpresident on Feb 16, 2010 4:02 AM PST reply actions
Thibodeau
He’s defensive-minded and has won a title.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 16, 2010 6:16 AM PST reply actions
Not after the god awful lineups we saw out of him in the games he was in charge.
by Missing Barry on Feb 16, 2010 8:20 AM PST up reply actions
the lineups didn't bother me as much as his complete tactical incompitence
when phili double teamed monta, he seemed like a 12 year old looking at a calculus problem. Seems like a good enough assistant but we’d he’d be out matched by every coach in the league
I don’t want to look too much into that kind of thing, because it’s a weird situation for a guy taking over for another coach and having to still do things Nellie’s way, so that’s why the lineups bother me the most, because he did things like play Mikki Moore even more than Nelson was, showing he clearly doesn’t really understand basic statistic principles, like how bad a rebounder Moore was and how much that hurt the team.
by Missing Barry on Feb 16, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
This.
+1
Although his apologists would say he couldn’t run “his” system.
I say fooey.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
Too bad D’Antoni’s taken, huh? He’s got the high IQ and creativity of Nellie at his best, minus the craziness, the laziness, the outsized ego, and the disturbingly unprofessional attachments to and grudges against certain players. I heard from a guy who’s hung out with him that for a guy in such a high-profile position (in NYC no less) he’s an amazingly smart, personable, and down-to-earth guy…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 16, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
i think the knicks organization knows they owe him time
considering he could have took a slew of better jobs than knicks in 2008.
D’Antoni has shown he is a great coach. He arguably has one of the least talented rosters in the league, yet he keeps them competitive. He also knows when to abandon a strategy not fitted to the current personel, and he knows to limit minutes of those who aren’t contributing much. For all the ESPN hate he got for sitting Nate Robinson, the team was better with him out because he’s a low efficiency, turnover prone guard, with no defense. He knows what wins games, and who helps him accomplish that goal.
banned like chris andersen
i hate the spurs so much
If suns had have won that championship, basketball would have been the better
Horry FTW!
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
No, David Stern FTW. Suspend Amar’e and Diaw a Game when Horry gang tackles Nash.
banned like chris andersen
Hmm depends on perspective.
I actually like the Spurs.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
and you will get
Don Nelson 20 years mo
WTF FTW!
by Lat We N Trash on Feb 18, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
Jeff Van Gundy
This is who I would want. He preaches defense and has been publicly critical of the W’s “system” when he does ESPN broadcasts. Sounds like he understands what kind of changes would need to be implemented.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
actually no because he’s my favorite broadcaster and I would miss him
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Feb 16, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
Only sorta kidding
I love how ridiculous Reggie is.
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 17, 2010 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
I’d take him over Marc Jackson. Marc Jackson is so terrible. I mute when he talks. Breen is crap too. Van Gundy is decent.
I only like watching TNT with Barkley, Ernie, and Kenny. Best sports show period.
banned like chris andersen
Yeah, the TNT crew is the best on television
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 17, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
No doubt. I actually really like the sound of Marc Jackson’s voice but hate his analysis. Reggie’s voice sucks and he sucks. It’s a shame cause he was one of my favorite players as a kid. Big fan of our guys as well.
go rowand
by lincypoo i wuv u on Feb 17, 2010 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
I get a kick out of Reggie
He’s so ridiculous.
I also like our guys a lot too.
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 18, 2010 4:54 AM PST up reply actions
Well, i just don’t like how he is so close to the organization, and that he is very obnoxious and tries to become the analyst too. Barnett is funny, and he knows alot about basketball. He usually doesn’t talk about the Warriors injuries every 3 seconds like Fitz.
banned like chris andersen
As far as announcers go, Fitz is a huge homer. Even Barnett is a bit, but Fitz just gets on me. I also don’t like his energetic outbursts. I like more realistic announcers.
by Missing Barry on Feb 18, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll take Fitz over the EPSN trio of Marc Jackson, Breen, and SVG. They are turrible as Charles would say.
banned like chris andersen
SVG is hilarious. I don’t know what his deal is, but every single time I listen, he has a new radical idea to completely and utterly change the NBA. I think it’s funny. Fitz is by far my least favorite local announcer, I’d even say he’s worse than the Phillies announcers, in my opinion. Something about me just really, really doesn’t like him.
by Missing Barry on Feb 18, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
SVG is a nuisance to listen to. I want to watch the game, and usually he just goes on tangents. If paired with a respectable play-by-play guy he would be better.
banned like chris andersen
Yeah, it is a little much and unnecessary – in general, I’m in favor of one announcer who just tells us what’s happening….but I think a lot of his ideas are funny.
by Missing Barry on Feb 18, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
I want...
Kieth Dambrot- head coach- Akron Basketball
I think he is a great coach who is overlooked, plus this is the guy who coached and mentored Lebron to be the player that he is.
I want to say "I don't care"
so long as it’s not Nellie.
But that’s not true. I hate giving retreat NBA failures second and third chances.
Get a former player who you think has it in him. Get a hot young assistant with potential.
I have my reservations about Keith Smart, but I don’t hate the idea. Two real knocks on him:
1) His player rotations when Nellie was out.
2) The fact that, rumor has it, Randolph isn’t getting much 1-on-1 coaching. Everybody on the Warriors coaching staff is responsible for this as well as Nellie, if it’s true.
So heck, maybe I’mtalking myself into just cleaning house. If we’re going to toss Nellie and Cohan and Rowell and Riley, might as well bring in some new hotshot.
Of course, bringing in some young up-and-comer is how you end up with Dave Twarzick.
New Blood
Marc Jackson is waiting for a chance and the Warriors should try and convince him to be there next coach. Not next year, tonight if possible. The sooner Nelson (Riley, Cohan, and Rowell too while I dream) is gone the sooner the healing process can begin.
Dicky V ..........
ITS GONA BE AWESOME BAAAAABYYYY
by TheRealRocWill on Feb 16, 2010 11:22 AM PST reply actions
I'd rather have a guy who doesn't fart dust.
We already have one in Nellie.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
Avery Johnson
and just for fun, GM- Bill Simmons
OWENS! OWENS! OWENS! OWENS!
- Joe Starkey
by 9ersDubsGiantSharks on Feb 16, 2010 3:11 PM PST reply actions
Oh god no.
Avery is a horrible coach. How can he F up that roster?!?
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
Nellie then?
First let’s get Nellie his record then we can concentrate on the future.
If Ellison buys the team it might be someone we’ve never heard of :>) I read that his “AMERICAS CUP” boat only had 2 us crew members? So will we end up with an aussie NBA coach? My choice would be Lat We N trash if he’s gonna go international BTW .
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 16, 2010 3:38 PM PST reply actions
Regardless of the record, any GM would've gotten rid of Nelson a year ago.
Oh wait his best friend is now the GM…
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
Regardless of the record, any GM would've gotten rid of Nelson a year ago.
This is not a year ago, This is nearing the end of his career and the time is short. Getting the record as the Warriors coach is better publicity than we’ve had in two years. Once he’s gone we can turn over a new page that doesn’t include turnovers in the game plan.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 16, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly if the people were smart, they wouldn't care about Nelson's record.
I know everyone that wants him to get the record sees that as the light at the end of the tunnel. But I still propose to jettison him off into the sunset whether he gets the record or not.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
This is not a year ago
Might as well be. We were injured and Garbo last year, we’re injured and Garbo this year.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
Might as well be. We were injured and Garbo last year, we’re injured and Garbo this year.
but we’re one more year closer to nellie getting his wins and moving on. Progress is sometimes measured in small steps.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 16, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Nelson again
Sorry but renewing the parade of coaches doesn’t do it for me. You might be correct that he’s not the right coach for a team of youngsters, but this bunch will all be rounding into their prime years next year. Nelson will do just fine (barring injuries) with that team.
And who's gonna teach them?
It sure as hell isn’t Nelson.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
There is no reason
to not give Keith Smart a shot at it. He’s gonna coach summer league again then he can have a full training camp in charge and management should allow him 15-25 games to prove himself. Next season is still gonna be a considered a rebuilding year unless we manage to land Bosh or Amare so there’s no legitimate reason not to give Smart a shot. If he aint working out then make a move while there’s still enough games to at least still have playoff hopes.
there’s no legitimate reason not to give Smart a shot
Except for his horrible PT decisions when he Nellie was out….
by Missing Barry on Feb 16, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
C'mon there buddy.
He would just continue to mess with AR again. How could Smart honestly give AR LESS minutes than Nellie did? I still remember that NJ game when AR went off in the second quarter. Then he got scraps for PT in the second half. Smart, you are anything but for that one.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
A part of me wants to think Smart had his own agenda though.
He tried oh so hard to win, but failed a majority of the time. At least Nelson is better at adjusting with the flow of the game.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
We are in year 3 of a 5/6 year rebuild , I hope you did not mean starting over next year again!
Yes you did say “still” a rebuilding year.
by Only In Fairfax on Feb 16, 2010 6:26 PM PST reply actions
We've never really truly rebuilt though.
What was needed was a full scale rebuild, not pussy-footing around the damn thing.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
We are in year 3 of a 5/6 year rebuild
Doesn’t re-building imply getting better each year? or are we re-building the suck?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 16, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmmmmm.....
Nice thread, Dubzfan. Let’s think about the type of coach the Warriors need: in theory, this team has two big, big problems. They don’t play enough D, and they are very young, so I think any prospective coach must be defensive-minded AND be able to relate to young players.
The pickins are slim, as they say:
I think Avery Johnson and Byron Scott both stink as coaches, so let’s toss them out. If the Warriors choose Smart, it’s basically a concession that no reasonable coach wants to work with this mess, because as many have noted, Smart just cannot be the best available (the coaching job in that game in Philly was just atrocious). The only good side of Smart is that it’s pretty clear he doesn’t think small-ball has any chance of working, so that’s a start, I guess.
Of the coaches listed, I would reluctantly vote for Thibodeau, but TBH, I’m not too familiar with him or any of the other coaches listed except Sam Mitchell. Brian Shaw would indeed be intriguing, but this team has no business running the triangle because I believe that system would minimize the effect of the PG.
One poster mentioned JVG, which sounds decent on paper, but I’m not so sure how that might work in practice. JVG might be a bit harsh on the young guys, and he might slow the tempo down too much.
I’ll throw out one name that has not yet been mentioned: how about Mo Cheeks? He’s still fairly young, he’s experienced, and he was a PG, which would be excellent for the development of Curry (and maybe Ellis). I’d be a bit concerned, however, about his commitment to defense.
Interesting
Cheeks was not impressive in Philly but not a bad thought. Although I think someone like Turner or Dantley can relate better to today’s player better. I certainly would like Mo and would not be opposed to him
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
Byron Scott
he could develop curry into a great PG look what he did with jason kidd (when he was in the nets) and CP3
Oh
so it was Byron Scott that made CP3, and it had nothing to do with him being an amazing talent coming into the league?
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 19, 2010 11:15 PM PST up reply actions
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