Polling GSoM: Will Warriors center Andris Biedrins break Celtics Garfield Smith 38 year record for lowest free throw %?
by Atma Brother ONE on Feb 22, 2010 3:41 PM PST
in Polling GSoM
Email
PrintDon Nelson's going after the all-time wins for a head coach record. Monta Ellis and his teammates are going after the individual and team turnover records (see- Polling GSoM: Will the Golden State Warriors lead the league in turnovers this season?). These are the things we cheer for during another WE SUCK campaign for Chris Cohan's Golden State Warriors.
Well here's another one to track for the history books.
From start to finish everything about this shot is just WRONG.
Jump for the 411 and more.
Over at SFGate Scott Ostler notes:
Biedrins is 3-for-23 from the line this season. The NBA record low percentage, one season, for a player shooting at least 20 free throws, is held by Garfield Smith, Boston Celtics, 1971-72, shooting 6-for-31 from the line, 19.4 percent. Biedrins is barely better than 13 percent.
Nellie has theorized that the free throw woes are having serious consequences for Biedrins' offensive game (if that's what you want to call it) [SFGate]:
Since his 18-rebound, three-block effort Feb. 6, Warriors center Andris Biedrins has averaged 4.8 points, 6.3 rebounds and 0.5 blocks a game. "He doesn't seem to want to go to the free-throw line, so he is staying away from the moves and places that give him a chance to get fouled," said coach Don Nelson, who pointed to Biedrins' 3-for-23 free-throw shooting.
We've discussed and written this countless times in the past, but it's completely inexcusable how poor of a jump shooter Biedrins is in his 6th season in the league. It simply shows his lack of commitment to the game of basketball. The jumpshot is one of the most fundamental aspects of this game and there is nothing fundamentally right about Biedrins' form. If you've never seen Biedrins shoot a free throw, then don't. Everything with it is mechanically wrong as Nellie has noted in the past (flip to the 2:24 mark).
(Note Nellie brought in George Johnson, not Rick Barry- see Nellie's Admission; Monta's Ankle on CSN Bay Area.)
Nellie understandably just seems frustrated [Biedrins still finding range- SFGate]:
"I never had a terrible free-throw shooter before; this is my first encounter," coach Don Nelson said after Tuesday's practice. "I've thought about everything. I've tried most everything. I think I have to live with the fact he's not going to be a great free-throw shooter."
Or jump shooter.
"He shot one jump shot since I've had him, and I made him shoot that," Nelson said. "I set up a play. For whatever reason, I said, 'Now, you're going to shoot the jump shot.' He did. He missed it. It's the only jump shot I remember him shooting."
It is indeed frustrating to have the second highest paid player on this team, a guy whom Mullin, Rowell, a ton of the local/ national media and fans alike couldn't wait to build around have ZERO commitment or dedication to getting the simplest jump shot on par with the ball-hoggers on middle school playgrounds. Seriously, does this guy ever even pick up a basketball and shoot around?
I doubt it.
Also see:
65 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I bet....
Teams are going to start taking the Josh Boone approach with Biedrins.
Does anybody that game vs the Nets where the Warriors fouled Josh Boone the ENTIRE quarter? He had 15 FT’s that quarter and made 7. All that did was give him 21 and 17.
I hope we can expect that sort of offensive production!
Does anybody that game vs the Nets where the Warriors fouled Josh Boone the ENTIRE quarter?
I remember
-rookie Belinelli in Nellieball at its best
WTF FTW!
by Lat We N Trash on Feb 22, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
I remember a game where Nellie had Brandan Wright playing Hack-a-Shaq
Biedrins gets payed to play basketball yet he can’t even have a certain free throw percentage after all these years. – __ -
Formerly known as Five Ten Entertainment.
by Precise Films Productions on Feb 22, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
Well, his is percentage is way down
some very good players are just never good FT shooters.
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 22, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
Curiously, there’s absolutely zero evidence that teams are trying to get Biedrins to the line. In fact, almost as remarkable as how poorly he’s shot FTs is how infrequently he’s even been given an opportunity. The 23 attempts this year work out to one attempt every 31 minutes. While he’s never been the sort of guy to pile up attempts ala Maggette, but he averaged a FT attempt every 11 minutes of play prior.
Fouling him to put him on the line gets the rest of the team shooting in the bonus faster. Nellie might go for a quirky strategy like that (send a bad shooter to the line when he wasn’t otherwise in danger of scoring) but I don’t suspect any other coaches are so inclined to try to alter basic strategy for a gimmick.
Agreed
He isn’t scoring much anyways, so why would teams want to purposely send him to the line? This hack-a-badshooter technique only works with dominant low post scorers that (potentially) deal less damage at the line than they would in the low post.
Love Warriors, Hate Cohan! - Sell the team! Save us Mr. Ellison!
by JustSomeName on Feb 22, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Wow you just have some personal problem with biedrins seriously.
However, I will answer this. He would set the new record. However he will probably not even shoot enough free throws to even qualify for the record. When is the last game you saw him shoot one? However, no matter the circumstances i am sure when it is all said and done you will post some meaningless poll again or a rant on him.
Has biedrins free throws affected this team AT ALL? no it is a non factor if it was a factor then i would be annoyed. He has never been able to shoot free throws and it has never affected the team because it is not like he shoots anymore than 2 a game.
I must admit you stay at it.
Has biedrins free throws affected this team AT ALL?
it’s 20 easy points we should have. Heck if he made half of it. It’s 10 points more we should have. That could be a few wins right there. not to mention his lack of confidence and fear of attacking rim indirectly hurts team cause he won’t run the pick and roll correctly.
So in short, yes it hurts the team when a guy shoots 3 for 23
um no he shoots like 2 every 5 games so no it isnt just simply 20 points
those points are spread out through alot of games. If he consistenly went to the line i would be annoyed but it is a rare occurence.
Biedrins has only attempted Fts in 8 games this year. We’re 4-4 in those games. In two of them, if he’d made all his FTs, we might have won. Both were 1 point games, both games he was 0-2 from the line. That’s bad, but it’s hardly all his fault at that point. That’s essentially one blown possession, which is like saying that anyone who missed one shot or turned the ball over once was equally damaging in the loss. In two other games, we lost by larger margins than he could have made up on his own. We won the other 4 games despite his woes.
That could be a few wins right there.
then we should be bowing down to him for helping our lotto chances :>)
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 22, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
Biedrins already qualifies shooting 3-23. THe minimum is 20.
But I agree with the rest of your post, especially the subject line.
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Feb 22, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Well, if Nellie’s to be believed (and I actually trust him on this one) AB’s so psyched out by the FT stripe these days that he’s adjusting his game to avoid getting there. For a guys those game is built around physical, interior play, this is a pretty huge problem. As a rule, I think casual fans make too much of the difference between, say 60% and 70% FT, and too little of the difference between a guy who gets to the line regularly and who doesn’t. If Biedrins is playing regular minutes and only getting 1.2 FTA/36 that is a problem that will hurt the team eventually. It’s a total shame, ’cos if he could get to the line even half as often as Dwight Howard (10.7/36) and revert to his old “solid” 55-60% FT form, he could really be a Top 10 NBA center…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 22, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
pretty dead on
My fear is how we can get anything close to value for a guy who is shooting 13% from the line.
As a rule, I think casual fans make too much of the difference between, say 60% and 70% FT, and too little of the difference between a guy who gets to the line regularly and who doesn’t.
That’s an excellent point.
Golden State of Mind :: Always keeping it... "Unstoppable Baby!" | SBNation.com
by Atma Brother ONE on Feb 22, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
AB’s so psyched out by the FT stripe these days that he’s adjusting his game to avoid getting there
agree on that -sometimes it was really painful to watch how Andris is giving away ball just because he isn’t sure that he will not gonna be fouled on his shot
-he could easy give 12pts per game on offense -and it’s not just about post game this factor hurts W’s chances to play pick’n roll game
i believe that this problem will be solved and will never repeat again because i can remember him making 10 FTs in a row couple years ago
also in preseason training camp vid ( @ 12:50) you can see how he is making 8 of 14 from midrange
i just disagree on the Nellies attitude (you’re the vet you’ve got to figure it out -while you’re not figured it out i’ll have some laugh because it hurts my team) -it may work in long term -i am just afraid that not in a frame of this season
WTF FTW!
by Lat We N Trash on Feb 22, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
i believe that this problem will be solved and will never repeat again because i can remember him making 10 FTs in a row couple years ago
Yeah, If he gets enough more attempts he’ll pull his average above that record, he’s about a 50-60 % shooter most of the time. But it would be cool to have one record for the team this year. Maybe Curr-bury can come up with a 15 turnover game?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 22, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
But it would be cool to have one record for the team this year
yeah -Nellie FTW
WTF FTW!
by Lat We N Trash on Feb 23, 2010 6:28 AM PST up reply actions
If Biedrins is playing regular minutes and only getting 1.2 FTA/36 that is a problem that will hurt the team eventually.
Hell, I think it already has been. Beans has a higher field-goal percentage than any NBA player who’s gotten big minutes, and he’s been passing brilliantly (crazily, the only Warrior with a better assist/turnover ratio is CJ). His fouls are up a bit, but other than that, his defense is as good as it ever was. In most ways, he’s playing exactly like the really good center he was a year ago. But our offense has functioned a lot worse with him in, because he’s not around the basket as much to grab offensive rebounds (he grabbed 13.0% of all possible offensive boards last year, just 8.4% this year) and he never gets fouled.
Getting Biedrins in the offense again needs to be a team priority. I’m sure a lot of it is Andris, but the guards also haven’t been calling many plays that involve him, and Nellie hasn’t been directing them to… he’s spent far too much time on the perimeter setting picks for 20-footers and working the ball around. It’s okay if Beans stinks at the line, but we do need him to play like a center on offense… it’d really help the perimeter guys, and the offense itself.
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
crazily, the only Warrior with a better assist/turnover ratio is CJ.
I love this factoid.
And as long as we’re beating our pet dead horses:
Amar’e Stoudemire, 0.38 assists / turnover
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 23, 2010 7:36 AM PST up reply actions
in fairness to Amare, 80% of his assists lead to at the rim buckets (0.4) & 20% (0.1) of them 16-23 feet. he may be missing out on assists b/c of fouls & he doesn’t pick up perimeter assists in the Suns system.
Andris gets a majority of his assists on the perimeter (0.5 16-23, 0.1 10-15, 0.2 <10 & 0.3 at the rim). you see this same effect with Ronny & Mikki who have nice assist to turnover ratios as well (1.83 & 1.71 vs Andris’ 1.86). Hunter also picks up 67% of his assists on passes to the perimeter. speculation, but doubt many are of the drive & kick or post up draw a double team variety.
Andris is probably still closer to the 1:1 guy he’s always been, but b/c he hasn’t attacked the paint on rolls, he hasn’t picked up charges or had guys strip him & whatnot. and so has instead joined the other W centers in picking up those cheap assists where you happen to throw it to someone who hits a jumper.
don’t know that Amare would play C for the W’s offensively, but if he did, he would theoretically (i admit) almost double his assist rate based on what the other W centers have experienced. he still might be under 1:1, but the difference might not be as bad as we’d initially think just looking at the stats.
by homer simpson on Feb 23, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Good stuff, homie…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 23, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Aaahh
I just hope he can get something going in the low post and that Nellie uses the pick and roll on the right-side a bit more. That seems to work a lot more easily than just taking your man 1-on-1.
Curry and Monta need to look for him and get Dre back to his form. I’m not to sure about his timing though.
Yeah, .130 looks bad on the face of it, but gotta look at the trends, man!
Jan FT% .111
Feb FT% .333
March FT% .999 FTW!!! Jose Calderon, watch out!
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 22, 2010 4:01 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
I don't understand
why Biedrins is so insecure….do other NBA centers emasculate him?
he had enough balls to dunk on Amare or Nene
he is insecure just …101 with himself
WTF FTW!
by Lat We N Trash on Feb 22, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
He is always in trade rumors
Also he is having a down year for him. I am sure that does not help
In his warriorsworld.net interview, he said he's been playing basketball since he was 6
So does this mean he’s been shooting the ball like that since he was a child? That’s quite hard to believe. I don’t understand how between the age of 6 and now, nobody ever taught him technique to shoot a basketball, or did he tower over the little 6 year olds and had him play center back then too?
Love Warriors, Hate Cohan! - Sell the team! Save us Mr. Ellison!
He should shoot free throws more like Ben Wallace and less like Shaq. Since Shaq is so huge (and can’t bend his wrist backwards because of a past injury) he just pushes the ball straight towards the basket and it occasionally works. Biedrins right now keeps the level of the ball steady when he shoots and just flicks it straight… He should take a page out of the Ben Wallace book and just chuck it up in the air, hoping that it comes somewhere near the rim.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 22, 2010 5:02 PM PST reply actions
it’s completely inexcusable how poor of a jump shooter Biedrins is in his 6th season in the league. It simply shows his lack of commitment to the game of basketball.
Seriously, does this guy ever even pick up a basketball and shoot around?
Yeah, and how about that Shaq? How has he STILL not developed a jump shot?
How about Dwight Howard? Okafor? Oden? Przybilla? Dampier? Haywood? Big Ben? Do they hate basketball, or do they just not show up at practice?
You know what's incredible?
Joakim Noah has one of the ugliest shots in the NBA, but he still manages to convert a reasonable percentage from the line.
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 22, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
Shaq is a bad example. He is physically incapable of bending his shooting wrist backwards because of a bad break he had when he was little.
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 23, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
I would very pleased if we got Cousins. He is like the anti-Biedrins and is able to make shots outside the paint
Just watch this video of him. I know it’s high school, but Cousins looks more than capable of being in the run-n-gun system.
Sick just sick
this was just written to bash Andris
probably because you couldn’t stand the fact that he was instrumental in the win last night, but this is a tasteless and classless blog post
by Lew Ghost on Feb 22, 2010 5:22 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
this was just written to bash Andris probably because you couldn’t stand the fact that he was instrumental in the win last night, but this is a tasteless and classless blog post
Why the hate? All it said is that Dre has a chance to break a futility record? It says nothing about Dre’s value as a person? Focus on the words at hand not on a speculative agenda.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 22, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ZERO commitment or dedication
Seriously, does this guy ever even pick up a basketball and shoot around?
It simply shows his lack of commitment to the game of basketball
There is pointing out a fun fact, and there are personal attacks. This post is 5% of the former and 95% of the latter.
Perhaps ZERO commitment was a bit harsh, but not changing your free throw style (which is obviously ineffective) b/c of pride or whatever reason does show a LACK of commitment to winning.
by Axel Foyle on Feb 23, 2010 6:38 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
not changing your free throw style (which is obviously ineffective) b/c of pride or whatever reason does show a LACK of commitment to winning.
Also shows a lack of understanding of mechanics. His shots are flat now and underhand shots have a natural arc, There’s no way he could be worse underhand and a good chance he could be a lot better.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 23, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I think Biedrins is very good for the Warriors
He’ pretty much their only post player that rebounds the ball night in night out. The Warriors just need to get a better offensive center, so that Biedrins can come in and rebound, and not have to worrry about scoring.
i dont think cousins is a good fit
although he may be a good center, his attitude is something this team definetly doesnt need. we are already filled with turmoil and problems, and adding someone with character problems would just make it worse. Ive watched a couple kentucky games and dont like his attitude at all, and have also heard announcers talk about how it could be a serious problem in the NBA
-1 I have watched every Kentucky game this year and this is just not a major problem with Cousins
The announcers talk mostly about how great he is in many different ways and his play backs it up…I saw him get 2 teeth knocked out in a game and laugh about it and hit the floor playing hard……he has the best stats per min in all of college and is inproving every game and he is a friggen 19 year old…this kid will be a all star big in the NBA by the time he is 26 and we will be in heaven if we are smart enough to take him ! I am sure that he will develope faster than Randolf at the same age…..forget the attitude talk that is from high school……he is exactly what this team needs !!!
by Only In Fairfax on Feb 22, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
forget the attitude talk
Attitude is good, Kobe’s got it, Lebron’s got it , Shaq’s got it, our 07 team even had it.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 22, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
Beidrins vs Camby
Just curious what everyone thinks of the comparison between these two players. I’m known for my distaste with Beidrins so i won’t fully replay that.
Who is a better rebounder, defender, and offensive threat? Who makes more money, and how can you really say Beidrins could be a “cornerstone” to build a team around if they could never do it with camby?
by Balance on Feb 22, 2010 5:34 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
because biedrins was averaging a double double as a very young center
He needs a real coach. Nelson is the last person you want to coach a center who can’t shoot. Nelson could care less for AB. We need a real low post coach here.
Shawn Marion probably was doing that in elementary school and was comfortable with it
Biedrins would have a lot of trouble with that. Nice suggestion though.
Same ole Atma
this was just written to bash Andris probably because you couldn’t stand the fact that he was instrumental in the win last night, but this is a tasteless and classless blog post
This is very true.
There’s no question Atma just wants to find another way to bash Biedrins. I watched half of last night’s game vs. ATL, and all I kept saying to myself was “Damn, Biedrins is just having an unbelievable defensive game.” My buddy even called me during the game to say the same thing. But not only does this go completely unmentioned in Atma’s game review, but he actually has the gall to blast Andris:
The best part of Biedrins’ game tonight was the passing. His 5 assists really helped the cause.
But let’s not get carried away here.
Andris Biedrins (33:13 minutes)- 4 points, 13 rebounds
Then he goes on to compare him to Horford and claim Horford “dominated” the match-up because he scored more. Uh-huh. I’ll go ahead and make the claim that not only is this extremely biased, but it is flat out irresponsible journalism, even for an internet forum. I will repeat what I said in the other thread: “Andris Biedrins was the best player on the court.” I’d really like an explanation from Atma on this subject: in the other thread, Dubzfan asks why you hate on Andris so frequently? Did he curse you out one night in Latvian? Do you hate guys with greazy, spiky hair? Are you jealous of his extremely hot GF? Are you still bitter that the Warriors passed on Pavel Podkolzin? I mean, what is it?
Back to the free throw issue…
there’s absolutely no reason for this to be typed
I disagree with this. Just because Atma has some personal vendetta against Biedrins does not make him wrong. Obviously, Biedrins couldn’t hit the side of a barn with a free throw. But isn’t the most important point….why? Why did he stink to begin with? Why did he improve slightly over time? Why did he revert to being completely unable to hit from 15’ away with no defenders? And most importantly, why can’t an NBA coach with one million wins (and one million losses) get him to correct what is surely an easy fix?
Well, you say, it’s obviously not an easy fix. Someone mentioned Joakim Noah. If he were shooting very poorly from the line, I would say his shot would be very difficult to fix because of the weird sideways rotation he has on all of his shots. But Biedrins is different. All of his misses are for the exact same reason: he shoots too low with not enough angle. His free throws are either short and flat or very short and very flat. The fix: Get him to bend his knees. Get him to put more arc in the shot. Get him to use the rim (and backboard) to his advantage (like Pau Gasol does). Get him to stop shooting with the tips of his fingers and instead use the entire hand. These are the kinds of things we should be discussing, rather than just another “I hate Andris, and let me count the ways he sucks” threads from Atma.
I’m not as consistent of a poster as some, but if Atma continues this nonsense, I will boycott ALL of his threads and pretend they never exist, and I will encourage everyone to do the same. Journalists need to be objective and unbiased, and Atma is neither. Everyone is always entitled to their own opinion, and of course, this is a great forum for open discussion and debate. But when multiple posters call out the OP’s knack for slamming certain players and defending certain coaches to the death, then it is time to turn a new page.
by UncleCliffy on Feb 22, 2010 6:12 PM PST reply actions 10 recs
You nailed it. I’m not going to bash the poster, but the post itself is terrible. It’s a couple of quotes and videos surrounding an all-out personal attack on a player. Maybe it was supposed to be funny, but it just comes across as spiteful. There’s no research, analysis, or attempt to start discussion. Forget front page- this would get called out as a fanpost, and probably get moved to fanshots (minus the personal attacks). That this gets to be on the front page undermines the quality of this community which is really one of the best NBA communities out there.
No hate doe. Atma I’m sure you’re a cool dude.
Just re-read my post, and it sounds a little harsh. I want to clarify that it is NOT a personal attack. I do not know Atma. I am sure he puts a ton of hours into this site, much more than I could ever offer. So thanks.
(Atma, if you are ever in SF and want to have a beer, and you’d like to discuss your Warriors world view, I’m buying)
It is just a bit frustrating, I suppose, to log onto the site to find some refreshing insight or commentary, or an angle that I had not thought of, or just to find out the general Warriors community’s stance on an issue involving the team, and in its place, to find the same constant scathing of a player who many respected posters and fans value very highly.
I think most of us agree on the following: the Warriors cannot win without a healthy and productive center. Andris is the closest thing this team has to a real interior defensive presence, accumulating rebounds and blocks at an outstanding pace. On a team that routinely ranks in the bottom tier in most meaningful defensive categories, and with a coach who emphasizes the offensive end much more than the defensive, that makes Andris of utmost importance.
Is it ok to question his lack of development on the offensive end? Absolutely. I am dumbfounded by his lack of general progress. I could go on all day about why he’s short on free throws or why he hasn’t developed a reliable baby hook. In his defense, he did have a fairly serious injury which now looks like it’s in the past. That’s a good thing. But you have to give credit where it’s due. He’s an extremely important part of this team. Give him time to develop a rapport with Curry, then team him with a legitimate PF, someone who can score with his back to the basket, plays some D and rebounds (but not necessarily a shot blocker), and I bet you really will see what Andris can do.
Carlos Boozer, anyone?
by UncleCliffy on Feb 22, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
huh
It is indeed frustrating to have the second highest paid player on this team, a guy whom Mullin, Rowell, a ton of the local/ national media and fans alike couldn’t wait to build around have ZERO commitment or dedication to getting the simplest jump shot on par with the ball-hoggers on middle school playgrounds.
To be fair, those middle school ball hoggers aren’t also seven foot tall centers who can block shots, score at a super-efficient rate, or rebound at an elite NBA level. I hope Andris stays healthy the rest of this season, because I’m hoping he can pull out of the doldrums on his free throw shooting. Truth be told, I don’t even think we’d be seeing him with such an abysmal percentage if he were getting to the line more often. As it is now, he takes so few that the nervousness is probably very amplified whenever he gets a chance. Whether or not he’s playing differently to avoid getting fouled isn’t for me to say, but there’s no better way to get out of this horrible streak than to start going to the line in real games and slowly build some confidence. I’m not suggesting Biedrins will be a good free throw shooter, but if he could get back to around 50% for the remaining stretch, even, it’s be a good sign that he’s able to move forward for next season.
Bedrin's form has to be radically changed
I haven’t played a basketball game in 60 years, but it’s obvious Bedrin’s form shooting free throws is so bad he will never succeed unless he learns to shoot free throws underhanded.
That’s the only way he is ever going to get enough arc on his shots to have any chance of success. It may look funny, but it isn’t funny if it lets you help your team win and allows you to
be on the floor in the last few minutes of a game.
by wmcoverdale on Feb 23, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It may look funny,
only if 90% FT shooting is amusing
BTW folks , This shot predated RickBarry, I don’t know how many pro players used it in the old days but it was common when I was in 7-8th grade and even little kids could shoot 60% or better with it. I’m kinda curious now, who was the last NBA player to shoot underhand free throws?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 23, 2010 4:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
BASH THE BIEDRINS!
I agree with Nellie – this is pathetic. Even if he misses shots, misses free throws, he has to put their big guys in foul trouble and he has to help open it up for our other players. If other teams no he is not even going to try to put up a shot they can close out on our other players. I’d argue that his trepidation is causing us about 15 points a game, if we combine points he (used) to get when he was aggressive and making it easier for wings to score.
He is our most talented big man (not injured) – but he should stay on the bench until he shows us he can play like he used to.
And don’t bring up him missing baron – he has a great passing PG in Curry and in the sixers game, Beans seemed to get the ball plenty in the paint and just pass it back out.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
"UNSTOPPABLE BABY!"
Golden State Warriors rookie Marc Jackson to the Mavericks' bench, after hitting a lay-up during a 29-point loss (2000)
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
Featured Stories
Most Commented
In Association With
Ball Don't Lie - NBA - Yahoo! Sport
- Days of NBA Lives: Wherein Roy Hibbert tap-dances to Maine
- Grizzlies Valentine’s Day cards are the key to love
- Kevin Love would like the NBA to take the MLB’s approach on All-Star games
- Kobe Bryant fires a few hilarious salvos at Jeremy Lin
- Brandon Jennings states the obvious regarding his 2014 free agency, everyone goes nuts
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
