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RECAP #58: Warriors 95, Pistons 88 - We reinvented "comebacks"

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In recent weeks, the Warriors have seemed to have perfected the Jeff Garcia strategy of the ‘comeback.'  Remember the first few years of Garcia's tenure with the 49ers where he amassed incredible stats despite the fact that they lost a lot of their games?   Well, a lot of those stats, if you all remember, came from scoring against their opponents who, plenty of times, had practically put the game away by the 2nd quarter.  Against soft defenses based around the notion of being a good sport to your opponent, Garcia little-by-little would make his ‘comeback' only to lose many games by a touchdown or so. 

Well, the Warriors, as of late, have looked no different.  After being down by 14 near the end of the second quarter, the Warriors seem to lull their opponents to "play at their level."  Perhaps a team of d-leaguers or non-draftees fumbling the ball, stepping out of bounds inadvertently, and bricking wide open shots in the first half was a deliberate strategy on the Warriors part to fake their opponents into feeling overconfident?  Maybe this is ANOTHER groundbreaking coaching strategy/invention that Nellie added to his repertoire, much like his idea of the point-foward? Maybe Nellie is, now, using some psychology with this Xs and Os based off knowing the limitations of his players and perhaps other player's assumptions of the Warriors AND their crop of d-leaguer players as non-NBA worthy? In other words, this is a coach who's using his player's weakness AS strengths!  This is a hall-of-fame coach, no doubt!

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("Touchin' his toes." Jerebko practices his dance moves for the after party at Suite 181)

We're just going to fast-forward to the third quarter where the Warriors finally seemed to get things together, perhaps based off my assumptions of Nellie's new ‘coaching strategies.'  Though the Warriors were not necessarily LESS sloppy in the second half (lazy passes a plenty), the Warriors seemed to find ways to, in the word of Tim Gunn on Project Runway, "make it work."

Here's what I learned from the Warriors in the second half, which I think were the keys to the game:

Anthony Tolliver His stat line was impressive and it definitely seemed like during the game he SLOWLY began to figure out how to be productive when he's unable to convert shots between 2-22 feet out.  Is it me or should Tolliver ONLY be shooting 3pointers if he plans on shooting from the perimeter?  Yesterday was the first day he shot 50% from the field.  The five games prior, Tolliver has been
"Biedrinsney," shooting 40% from the floor.  HOWEVER, he has also made close to 50% of this 3pointers during this span.  His assists were up this game and his give and the give-and-go with Turiaf and others showed some smarts of how to be productive without the ball.

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(Their chemistry is so deep they even stand the same during timeouts)

Assists:  I have never seen the Warriors pass the ball this much. And it often seems that this sentiment of sharing, "shared" by all (every player had an assist sans Chris Hunter), happens more often when Corey Maggette and Monta Ellis are out.  This argument will probably be statistically negated with real evidence from you statistics fiends.  BUT, I will say watching the Warriors brick shots off plays that involve ball rotation is much more entertaining than watching Monta or Maggette trying to take on their opponents 1 on 5, either getting stripped, blocked, or a turnover on a charge.  Heck, I would much rather watch the Warriors LOSE with passing than possibly win with little ball movement. 

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(Morrow announces to his defenders that he is about to drive to the lane)

Rebounding: Turiaf, possibly the most physical (looking) Warrior on the team at this moment, cussed out his teammates after putting up a monster block on Charlie Villanueva, only to have Villanueva grab the rebound and score again.  The biggest problem about this, which Turiaf was so furious that his mantrum (adult male tantrum) involved barking expletives at his young teammates loud enough to be heard through the television, was that nobody helped Turiaf out after his tremendous defensive effort.

This tends to be the case, too, when Biedrins is often left to man the middle solo because of the Warriors poor perimeter defensive.  As much as I am frustrated by Biedrins complete lack of confidence at this moment along with his offensive inefficiencies, I do feel for guy as he's often left vulnerable defensively by his teammates who at times couldn't stop a turtle coming down the lane.  On offense and defense, you rarely see much team rebounding as it seems like everyone just takes off for the outlet passes.

After Turiaf's mantrum, it was nice to see all Warriors hitting the boards midway through the fourth quarter.  Often times you could see little CJ Watson in the fray, picking up a block late to preserve a late lead.  C'mon Warriors! Box out!  Defense is half the game!

Stephen Curry's ball handling skills: Besides Baron Davis, I, PERSONALLY, don't think the Warriors have had any one with play-making abilities.  I PERSONALLY think Steph Curry might be the first Warrior since Tim Hardaway to have any sort of court vision to go with his dribbling, shooting, and crafty dribble-drive penetration.  Together, this seems to make Curry particularly important for defenses to recognize by double-team, which often leads to his teammates being wide open on the perimeter or on the block.  Perhaps it was defensive error on the Piston's part, but Curry seemed to always be able to find his screener, whether it be Tolliver, Chris Hunter, or Ronny Turiaf wide open in the lane.  Maybe it was the Piston's overplaying Curry on the pick-and-roll, but I would like to believe that Curry's skill set forces defenses to be honest.  In all honesty, I don't see teams doing the same when Monta tries to run the pick and roll, which is probably because they know he'll never pass.  This isn't a knock on Monta as much as it is to say that maybe Monta shouldn't be the one initiating that type of offense.

Granted, the Warriors played their equivalent on the east coast, it was still impressive to see the Warriors somewhat endearing group of castaways and rent-a-players playing hard, smiling, and not making any OVERLY bonehead plays like cussing out refs, driving 1 on 5 only to get stripped, or chucking up a contested three pointer with 22 seconds left on the clock (ahem...Monta).

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You will all hate for me this, but I give it to Turiaf.  His emotional outburst was exactly what this young, inexperienced, and non-physical team needed to win this game.  Although all the Warriors picked up their defense in the second half, it was Turiaf's defensive presence in the paint that to me proved to be game-changing.  Who was your Warrior Wonder?

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Who was your Warrior Wonder?

I’m torn between Stephen Curry and Anthony Tolliver, but I’ll probably go ahead and give it to Tolliver for giving Curry some help and he also crashed the boards.

Overall, it was an ugly win. At the time I was complaining, but knowing the outcome, I guess it was okay.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 28, 2010 2:00 PM PST reply actions  

I absolutely love that Morrow facial

It reminds me of his facial reaction after that monster dunk in Portland. But now he’s busting it out on the way to the hoop!

But personally, I’m getting a little drained from the rope-a-dope style of games. Maybe Nellie’s right in that the young kids don’t know any better, and they just play play play until their legs fall off. But from a fan’s perspective, it’s exhausting to try to analyze the inconsistencies and try to figure out what the Warriors do and don’t have.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 28, 2010 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

Anyone feel like looking up our record without Corey Maggette? Our record without Monta Ellis?

by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Feb 28, 2010 2:34 PM PST reply actions  

3-3 without Monta, 4-4 without Maggette.

by DubsFan408 on Feb 28, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Great post

I’m sorry. I still think what Turiaf did was classless along the lines of something SJack would do. Considering; Curry is playing almost every minute of the games these days, CJ had a stomach virus and played almost the entire game, and Morrow was playing damn hard last night. On top of that Curry and CJ are two of the best rebounding small guards around (their per is probably almost what Ronny’s is) – that doesn’t happen without a lot of effort.

I respect Turiaf’s passion. But, I wonder where that passion is when it comes to learning how to play the game other than by just leaping around in the air like (my own personal nickname for Ronny) Peter Pan.

Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
moveyourmoney.info

by cybermaldonado on Feb 28, 2010 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

To be fair to Ronny in regards to my last sentence above. I typically blame Nellie’s lack of coaching for players not learning how to improve their games.

Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
moveyourmoney.info

by cybermaldonado on Feb 28, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Against soft defenses based around the notion of being a good sport to your opponent,

 That must be it or either the other teams have lousy scouting reports? I’d have run constantly at Curry-bury and CJ last game if I knew the Warriors only had two guards available, but old detroit just dicked around on the outside bricking shots most of the time?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 28, 2010 3:22 PM PST reply actions  

Oracle

in that game looked like IZOD Center (where the Nets play)

Living for a magical 8th seed run

by KashRocks on Feb 28, 2010 3:22 PM PST reply actions  

My Man said it all
Assists: I have never seen the Warriors pass the ball this much. And it often seems that this sentiment of sharing, “shared” by all (every player had an assist sans Chris Hunter), happens more often when Corey Maggette and Monta Ellis are out. This argument will probably be statistically negated with real evidence from you statistics fiends. BUT, I will say watching the Warriors brick shots off plays that involve ball rotation is much more entertaining than watching Monta or Maggette trying to take on their opponents 1 on 5, either getting stripped, blocked, or a turnover on a charge. Heck, I would much rather watch the Warriors LOSE with passing than possibly win with little ball movement.

Great post, great observation, very good recap you are the man!

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

by mykelala01 on Feb 28, 2010 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

His emotional outburst was exactly what this young, inexperienced, and non-physical team needed to win this game.

Although, I think the warriors need to play with more emotion… I thought this outburst was quite childish and out of line. He makes many mistakes….. mishandling the ball, and he commits horrible fouls. Do you see anyone screaming at him? No… When he was on the Lakers, I disliked him. Then he kind of grew on me on the Warriors but I am slowly started not to like him. Plus his accent sucks. Haaaa.

by Dilla4life on Feb 28, 2010 4:13 PM PST reply actions  

Anyone at the game last night??

It looked emptier than I have seen since way before We Believe.

by reppin510 on Feb 28, 2010 4:23 PM PST reply actions  

I was there

One factor was the absolutely insane parking situation thanks to the Monster Truck thing- I exited the freeway at 6:35 and barely got into the arena on time.

It wasn’t a gigantic crowd when it filled in 2nd Quarter, but it was better.

by dprodigy19 on Feb 28, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Afflalo (Senor Kobe stopper) held Kobe to 14 pts on 3-17 shooting with 5 TO today. To Kobe’s credit he got 12 assists which may show that he can adapt a bit.

Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
moveyourmoney.info

by cybermaldonado on Feb 28, 2010 4:25 PM PST reply actions  

Yes

but I doubt Monta will realize that in order for this team to succeed, he must play off the ball. He’s been handed the keys to the franchise, and I doubt he’s going to hand them right over to someone who he thinks is just a golden boy rookie. Right now it looks as though the only solution is to trade him.

Living for a magical 8th seed run

by KashRocks on Feb 28, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

You can still be the guy off the ball

Just look at it, KD, Melo etc.

Stan Van Gundy looks like a maintenance man who walked into the locker room to fix something, and just decided to start yelling stuff and somehow became the coach

by dubzfan on Feb 28, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

What Denver has going with Melo is perfect

They have Melo convinced that he is “leading” his team deep into the playoffs, giving him even more confidence, when it appears obvious that Billups is the real driving force behind that team. I mean, remember when Denver had AI and Melo, they were first round TKO’d two straight years, but in one and a half seasons with Billups they have made huge strides as a franchise, going to the WCF last year, and appear to be headed to the WCF’s at least this year again.

by reppin510 on Feb 28, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember

1 play of the Warriors when Baron was here. Baron held the ball, dribble around, Monta came off a screen from Beans, got the ball, then either shot the ball, drove the lane, or drop the ball to Beans rolling to the lane. That was the play that made Monta’s jump shot insanely good, it also got Beans involved. They can run that play now, instead of letting Monta 1on1 pull up jumper

by Minh Phan on Feb 28, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Will monta let that happen? nooo!

banned like chris andersen

by MDB on Feb 28, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is everyone convinced Monta runs the show?

Yes, when he has the ball he is not the best with it. But who says he should have the ball in the first place? I remember a Don Nelson interview where he was basically asked why Monta has been handling the ball so much. Here is his reasoning:

It is too hard to get Monta the ball if he doesn’t bring it up and set up the plays.

This to me is a coaching issue. YES Monta is the person that should decide to pass or not when he has the ball BUT the real issue is WHY DOES MONTA HAVE THE BALL IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

If we get a new coach, I really think things will run more smoothly and Ellis will be far more effective.

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Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
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by LostHawkGSW on Feb 28, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It is too hard to get Monta the ball if he doesn’t bring it up and set up the plays.

This to me is a coaching issue. YES Monta is the person that should decide to pass or not when he has the ball BUT the real issue is WHY DOES MONTA HAVE THE BALL IN THE FIRST PLACE!?

It is a coaching issue, but it’s deeper than just taking the ball out of Monta’s hands.

Why is it so hard for Monta to get the ball if he doesn’t bring it up? Because Nellie is not currently able to create plays that successfully get Monta the ball in good spots. There are certainly mitigating circumstances: Baron drew a lot of defensive attention, the players are young and injured and probably have difficulty executing plays, and we hadn’t seen Monta run the show, and there really wasn’t any better options early in the season. But the fact of the matter is: Nellie cannot draw up plays to get Monta the ball if he doesn’t have it already.

At the beginning of the season there were a lot of reasons to at least check out Monta’s offense initiation skillz. And yes, as of October 28th, Monta was probably our most best option to initiate the offense. By now, however, that thinking should have changed. We can all see that Monta is not as effective as a scorer when he has to create his own shots and that Curry is at least competent as an offense initiator.

We can all agree with this strategy: move Monta back to his proper role and have Curry initiate the offense, but keep Monta the focus of the offense. However, we need a coach that can accept this reality, convince Monta that it’s a good thing, and draw up some plays to get Monta the ball in good spots. I just don’t think Nellie is willing and able to admit he was wrong, keep Monta motivated after demoting him, and create plays that the team can execute. Hopefully I’m wrong, I’ll gladly chow down on my crow if Nellie can make all that happen.

Trust me, learning english isn’t a waste of time. It is actually sort of useful.

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by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 1, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Any proof?

Stan Van Gundy looks like a maintenance man who walked into the locker room to fix something, and just decided to start yelling stuff and somehow became the coach

by dubzfan on Feb 28, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Anthony Morrow...

“IT’S BEN WALLLACE!OH NOESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS”

by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Feb 28, 2010 7:36 PM PST reply actions  

Standings update

I knew the Clippers had it in them to lose to the Kings tonight. From the box score, the Clippers got nuked in the 1st qtr and slowly fought their way back, but couldn’t overcome their deficit in the final minute of the 4th qtr.

So now, the Pacers and Kings are tied with each other, and they are both 2 1/2 games behind the Warriors. The Warriors are 3 1/2 games behind the TWolves, but unless the TWolves go on a winning streak, we won’t sniff 2nd place in the lottery balls.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 28, 2010 8:55 PM PST reply actions  

Either way, we need 24 wins to have a chance at losing Nelson.

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by LostHawkGSW on Feb 28, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

There you go with Nelson

Why does everyone want this guy out? I know his small ball hurts us sometimes, but you act like he’s the reason why we suck. We suck because we’re not healthy and/or not enough talent and you already know with Cohan and the front office. I don’t think Nellie lost his edge as a coach, I just think he isn’t having any fun anymore. You never see a smile on his face or anything. Can you blame the guy? He’s around 70 years old and is coaching a team that is horrible. I know Nellie wants his wins and wants to go, but if he does decide to come back (which I doubt unless we become a good team in the summer) I wouldn’t mind bringing him back.

by DubsFan408 on Feb 28, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

everyone hates Nellie. The Monta supporters use him as the only scapegoat, while the Monta critics use both of them. It’s a bit of common ground that is keeping the website together some.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 1, 2010 2:07 AM PST up reply actions  

His lineups suck, he seems to have a large role in creating a systematic problem within our organization that devalues things like defense and rebounding that contribute to winning basketball while overvaluing certain offensive skills that may or may not actually help us win just because they fit into Nelson’s system. He’s mailed it in as a coach and admits himself that he doesn’t really do anything but coach the games, letting his staff handle everything else…..yeah, I see plenty of reasons to want Nellie out.

by Missing Barry on Mar 1, 2010 6:57 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s mailed it in as a coach and admits himself that he doesn’t really do anything but coach the games

This.

He blames everybody else without looking at himself. He blames injuries, Biedrins, Monta, Randolph, everybody. And when people ask him why the team doesn’t play better defense, he says “Oh, I don’t coach defense, you’ll have to ask Keith Smart… I just coach the games.” So… what, he creates the player rotations? How hard is it to tell Monta and Curry to run around for 48 minutes a game? How hard was it to snarl and kneejerk yank Randolph out every time he made a mistake? How hard is it to tell players “Hey, if a shot is there, take it!”? What does Nellie do as a game day coach that I couldn’t do?

We suck because we’re not healthy and/or not enough talent and you already know with Cohan and the front office.

Ignoring the terrible, terrible grammar… you’re right, we suck. And we would suck with or without Nelson. However, I’d at least like our coach to try to deal with the adversity of young players and injuries instead of giving up, which not only hurts our team’s performance but also sets a bad example for the young impressionable players (“Hey, if the going gets tough, blame your coworkers!”).

He’s around 70 years old and is coaching a team that is horrible.

Sure, that’s a valid reason for why he’s not really trying. He’s old and doesn’t want to put in the effort, it’s a reasonable explanation. But going into the season we all knew the team wasn’t going to be great unless some crazy things happened. If the team likely won’t be great, why do we have a really old coach who’ll stop trying if the team isn’t spectacular? It’s not like we walked into the season with LBJ and a shot at a championship. We walked into the season with a pretty mediocre team. We walked into the season with completely unproven players in Monta Ellis, Anthony Randolph, Stephen Curry, and Anthony Morrow. We needed significant improvements from one or more of those four players to even contend for the #8 seed (i.e. to be better than terrible). This was probably going to be a 35-40 win team if healthy with a coach that cared.

We’re not healthy, and our coach doesn’t care. The fact that we’re not healthy does not excuse the coach for not caring, and that is why we want Nellie gone.

Trust me, learning english isn’t a waste of time. It is actually sort of useful.

-randolphforpresident

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 1, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Go Kings!

Now lets get out last 7 wins and lose everything else! :D

So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison

by Badly Browned on Feb 28, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

unless the TWolves go on a winning streak, we won’t sniff 2nd place in the lottery balls.

 Probably not but we should be working our asses off to maintain third slot. I didn’t see any commitment to it last game, they just kept scoring when they saw the Piston collapse?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 28, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

This isn't worth a whole fanshot,

so here’s the interesting BWright tidbit from Matt Steinmetz article.

Brandan Wright said the other day that he plans on playing in the Las Vegas Summer League in July.

I suppose that’s possible. According to wiki, the eligible players are those that have been in the league 3 years or fewer. If Randolph joins Wright and plays at center, and if Morrow and Curry joins, we almost have a Warriors starting 5 in the summer league.

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 1, 2010 12:12 AM PST reply actions  

Summer League domination as always then.

by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Mar 1, 2010 1:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Curry-Morrow-Turner-Wright-Randolph for total summer league dominance? :D

So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison

by Badly Browned on Mar 1, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

FTW

The Warriors, where D-League dominance happens!

Trust me, learning english isn’t a waste of time. It is actually sort of useful.

-randolphforpresident

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 1, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Though I suspect Morrow and Wright probably can't play in summer league

And I meant:

“The Warriors, where summer league dominance happens!”

Trust me, learning english isn’t a waste of time. It is actually sort of useful.

-randolphforpresident

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 1, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I skim...

Didn’t see IQ’s comment first.

Trust me, learning english isn’t a waste of time. It is actually sort of useful.

-randolphforpresident

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 1, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Can we do this trade?

It would be something like this.

Ellis & Beans to the Wolves plus a future pick maybe 2013.

Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes (they wanted to get rid of his contract) and a filler like Ryan Hollins.

This trade would give GSW a legit PF that can elevate Curry’s game, it would give them a bench guy in Gomes and a chance to get rid of Maggette since Gomes can play the 3, Ryan Hollins will give provide depth in the center position.

Waaaarriors

by puffylove on Mar 1, 2010 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

We’re back to Al Jefferson? Really, we have to go over this again?

by Missing Barry on Mar 1, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Jefferson and Love

While Jefferson is having a down year, Kevin Love is putting up about 15 points and 11 rebounds per game in 29 minutes. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jefferson’s name in trade talks.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 1, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Jefferson just got arrested for drunken driving.

  maybe a good buy low opportunity?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 1, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe a good buy low opportunity?

If we trade vlad?
thats at most i would trade for him, but i’m convinced in my mind his expiring next year is more valuable to us than A Jeff.

banned like chris andersen

by MDB on Mar 1, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The only player that catches my interest is Kevin Love. Jefferson, Rubio, Sessions, Flynn, etc doesn’t really give us much help.

by DubsFan408 on Mar 1, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Scoreboard watching

Wasn’t it a couple years ago on TNT that the Celtics completely demolished the Knicks by 50+ pts? Cavs up 49 (!!!) against the Knicks midway through the 4th qtr.

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 1, 2010 6:01 PM PST reply actions  

Annoyingly

the Knicks are now tied with the Kings and the Pacers, all 2 1/2 games behind the Warriors. But the Knicks are 1-9 in their last 10 games, so they are the team that’s in true freefall right now. Let’s go 0-5 roadtrip!

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 1, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope

-We lose all the games

-Curry gets tripple doubles every game

-Every game is close until we lose

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by LostHawkGSW on Mar 1, 2010 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

NO!

I’ll never root for my team to lose, and just cause the dubs have a high pick, that doesn’t mean the person they draft will be good, or that the draft balls will even go their way!
NJ has Wall, we’re not getting him, so how about rooting for Curry to carry our team to some road wins!!!!!!!

by Lew Ghost on Mar 2, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

NJ has Wall, we’re not getting him

Do you understand how the draft lottery works? The worst team has only a 25% chance of geting the #1 pick, so most likely, no, they do not have Wall. The odds of getting a good player also increase the higher your pick is, and the more we lose, the better our odds of getting a higher pick.

by Missing Barry on Mar 2, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you understand how the draft lottery works?

You’re probably better off not asking that question for the next few months… Besides, the Knicks are getting Wall, it’s pre-ordained.

Trust me, learning english isn’t a waste of time. It is actually sort of useful.

-randolphforpresident

by Dubs fan in Boston on Mar 2, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

just cause the dubs have a high pick, that doesn’t mean the person they draft will be good, or that the draft balls will even go their way!

 But losing increases our odds of something good happening, while winning at this point of this season has no redeemable social value.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 2, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

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NEW YORK CITY NY - AUGUST 12:  Kevin Durant #5 looks on during the World Basketball Festival USAB Showcase at Radio City Music Hall on August 12 2010 in New York City. (Photo by Chris Trotman/Getty Images for Nike) +4 updates

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