Wall should sit at head of lottery class [Y! Sports]
The Warriors have a great shot at winning the John Wall lottery, but even if they don't they'll most likely wind up with a top 5 pick the way things are going right now. Here's some other names to track during March Madness.
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Hassan Whiteside , Devin Ebanks , Staley Robinson , Damion James , Eric Bledsoe. And Donatas Motiejunas isn’t even in march madness! He’s in europe, they didn’t think this through.
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
John Wall
This guy is the biggest no brainer at #1 since Lebron, yet I garentee the dubs would struggle over picking him IF they got the #1 pick….
The Warriors need him about as much as anyone just cause of the HUGE boost in morale he’d give the suffering fans, the attention he’d draw back to the Warriors, the seats he’d fill…. Unlike Monta, he is already a household name who will get the Warriors national coverage.
oh and there’s the fact he has more talent than anyone on the roster. If we got so lucky, i wouldn’t consider trading him, i’d consider trading curry. But the warriors will guaranteed trade MONTA over Curry, (just like how I guaranteed we wouldn’t use speedy’s expiring (And it was stupid to trade Crawford for speedy, which subsequently got me mocked by half GSoM))
I’m gonna use quotes NBA GM’s used “Best prospect since Lebron and Dwight howard.” “As close to a can’t miss superstar as you find in a young player,” etc. etc. etc.
Curry was also a household name that got/shoud’ve gotten us national coverage and filled seats.
"Hold it. The Schwarzenegger Library?" - John Spartan after hearing Arnold became President, from Demolition Man
by 61st Amendment on Feb 8, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Curry wasn't at all on the level of Wall
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 8, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
Did you watch ESPN last year?
I would say Curry was more of a household name last year than Wall is this year. If we’re talking about how much mainstream coverage each player got, I would say “Wall isn’t at all on the level of Curry.”
"Hold it. The Schwarzenegger Library?" - John Spartan after hearing Arnold became President, from Demolition Man
by 61st Amendment on Feb 9, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Wall, Turner, Cousins?
This futile season might have a happy ending afterall ? Now can they maintain the suckyness when it counts or will they just win enough to move us out of the top three lotto spots? I really have no faith in the FO ability to do the right thing so I’m halfway expecting them to blow this Golden opportunity :>)
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 8, 2010 9:52 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I really have no faith in the FO ability to do the right thing so I’m halfway expecting them to blow this Golden opportunity :>)
+10000. On 1 hand i expect Nellie to see Wall’s natural talent and know he’s can’t miss.
on the other, i see his man crush on Curry.
I think the common denominator will be trading monta if we get #1 pick (unlikely still)
I really have no faith in the FO ability to do the right thing so I’m halfway expecting them to blow this Golden opportunity
100% agree
People agreeing with Skeptic?
what is this, I don’t even…
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 8, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Wall tuner or cousins and this season would not have been a complete wash.
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Feb 8, 2010 10:03 AM PST via mobile reply actions
if the rockets don't make the playoffs and get this pick
I will lose it. David stern, rigging the nba
Compared to what?
The best shot at winning the lottery is only a 25% chance. And how many times since the implementation of the lottery has the team with the worst record in the regular season won it? 3 times? in 25 years? If we have between the second- and fifth-worst record, I’d say that’s a great chance.
Also, I just won $800 on the Super Bowl, so I’m counting on my luck to continue into May for the draft lottery.
I wasn’t looking at it relative to other teams, more on the basis that a ~1/6 chance of landing Wall means we don’t have a very good chance at actually landing him. If we’re gonna say things like “a great chance” at landing him, I think it should be a better than a 1/6 longshot…
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
It's entirely possible that we'll overtake the Twolves as the second worst team.
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 8, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
I used 1/6 to be vague because that seems to pretty well cover all our possibilities, though I will say I think the odds of us finishing second worst are very, very slim.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
They have the same record as us right now.
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 8, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
We have a much better point differential, though (and they have the same number of wins but more losses, right?)…
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Plus we’re better than a team like the Wizards, and we’re better than we’ve been once we get a bit more healthy, so we have a bunch of things going for us over the last 30 or so games of the season, compared to how everything has gone up till now.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
If they can the Warriors should take Cousins
As a life-long fan of the Warriors and a current resident of Lexington, KY, I have a pretty good perspective on DeMarcus Cousins and why he would be a good fit for the Warriors. The idea that the Warriors, if given the opportunity, would take Turner over Cousins is not only laughable; it would be a monumental mistake. I think given the Warriors’ strength at guard that, no matter how talented Wall is (and he is everything people say he is), Cousins is much more what the Warriors’ have always needed: a great rebounder, an intimidating defender, and an offensive force in the center/power forward position, which the team has never ever had.
It may be luck for the Warriors that Cousins is so misrepresented by the national media. People believe what they want about him based on a few incidents, but I can tell you that they have little basis in fact. I have seen every minute of every game Cousins has played in college and have watched all the local interviews with him. He’s bright, he’s funny, and he is not at all like the national media have portrayed him (as one sees in this post as well). He is, admittedly a little immature, but even here, he is growing up quite rapidly; he is becoming much more savvy around the media and he is dealing with the unfair perception of him by the media quite maturely.
Cousins is experiencing what all great big men experience in college. Just yesterday, Coach Calipari complained to the local press about how Cousins is treated much the way Shaquille was at LSU. There simply are no college front court players who can match up one on one with Cousins; so to slow him down (nobody can stop him), they literally mug him almost every time down the court. Instead of retaliating, Cousins just plays. Watching him play is a bit like watching the young Shaquille play at LSU. He muscles his way through defenders like few college post players I have ever seen and yet plays with more finesse than one would expect from a man his size.
Although the daily wear of playing NBA basketball might be a bit overwhelming for Cousins in his first year in the league, there are few big men out there in the NBA right now who I would be afraid to send Cousins out to play against. He is a superb defender, has tremendous footwork, and a ton of aggression. And the development of his play over the course of his freshmen season has been, to me at least, nothing short of astonishing. He was simply nowhere as good a player in November as he is today and he continues to develop almost every game.
The one large hole in his game right now is that he rarely passes out of the post when double or triple teamed. In part it must be because he realizes that he rarely needs to, that he can still get to the basket (which, unfortunately I can’t say of Patrick Patterson, however much I like his game). It is not that he is a poor passer or makes poor decisions in the post, but he does not yet know how to exploit the double-team other than forcing his way through it.
One never knows how it will all play out, but to me it looks like Cousins’ ceiling is higher than Dwight Howard’s. And if you don’t think that would be good for the Warriors, I don’t know what else one would want.
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by Since1972 on Feb 8, 2010 5:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
One thing I have to say to the wall of text
John Wall is the point guard version of Lebron, Cousins is good and may fill a bigger need. But you don’t pass on Wall, you just don’t. I’ll quote monta.da.boss (not word for word but you’ll get the message) " The Cavs didn’t say they should pass up on Lebron and draft a big like Darko"
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
Thanks for your take. The biggest point to me is we’re not at the point where we need to fill needs – we’re still at the point, as a team, where we’re looking for a player to build around, an identity and core that can make us into a perennial team. John Wall, by all accounts, is the best bet to be that player. That’s why we need to take him if we can. After that….well, then it gets more complicated and Cousins should at least be evaluated to see if we think he’s as good a prospect as anyone else available to us, and if he is, yeah, we could definitely use that, but again, our focus should be on finding the core of a perennial playoff squad.
to me it looks like Cousins’ ceiling is higher than Dwight Howard’s
I’ve only see Cousins a couple of times, I’m curious, why do you think that? A guy with Dwights ridiculous size/strength and athleticism is a once in a generation type talent, Cousins doesn’t seem to me like he’s on that level, even if he is a very good prospect…
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
i have read 3 or 4 articles comparing cousins to derrick coleman due to his lack of motivation/temperament. i hope we do not draft anyone who’s scouting report reads" questionable motor" and " work ethic is a concern." generally those two things do not make a good nba player. maybe he’ll be good though. he does not have anywhere near the talent dwight howard does. if he did, he would be #1 over wall. i see more comparisons to amare than dwight. we shall see though. even if we get the number one pick, we probably will be looking for a thin, left handed, injury prone tweener with no jumper!
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