RECAP #64: Golden State Warriors 105, Portland Trailblazers 110 - Brandon Roy and Andre Miller outmuscle and hustle Warriors' backcourt
by dj fuzzylogic on Mar 12, 2010 2:15 AM PST
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Today's game, once again, represented the best and worst of Nellie and Warriors basketball. The Warriors continuously embody the constant dialectic of success and failure...and today was no different. Briefly:
Success!
- Up 16 in the third quarter getting the Blazers out of rhythm
- A team of 5 d-leaguers out-shooting and outhustling a Blazers team of first round picks...with Monta on the bench with foul trouble!
FAILURE
- Terrible matchups in the fourth quarter that led to the Warriors unable to grab a board and getting outscored by 18 points in the fourth.
And of course, this guy:
Brandon Roy is an all-star and he's a big reason why this team is going to the playoffs and the Warriors aren't.
But let us not get bogged down on the obvious! We should remember and celebrate today's Roaracle festivities , that being the first "gay-night" at a Warriors game! Even in a loss, there is much to celebrate. Gay Pride? Yes. Still in the John Wall or Evan Turner sweepstakes? You betcha. Moreover, the Warriors lost in style!
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Blog Buddy: Blazer's Edge
A possible reason why Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis cannot play in the backcourt together:
Andre Miller and Brandon Roy (mostly Brandon Roy, really) demolished the Warriors. From jump, Miller took it straight to Curry and scored effortlessly. Roy did the same with Monta and before we knew it both Monta and Curry were both in foul trouble.
Roy, my girlfriend's friend from high school, may not have the "game" we expect from an NBA all-star and superstar but you can't front on 41 points on only 22 shots. How many shots do you think it would take Monta to get 41 points?
Stephen Curry, my suggestion to you, to avoid getting outmuscled and hustled: P90x. Or Flirty Girl Fitness maybe?
Anthony Tolliver, stay at the 3point line.
He is a terrible shooter. But for some reason, he is much better from 23 feet out than from 2.3 feet out. He had a hard time getting over Portland's Marcuses (Camby and Le... Alderidge). But he seems like he's always in the right place at the right time when it comes to getting rebounds (6 offensive boards). I love his hustle.
Don Nelson as Jekyll or Hyde?
The fourth quarter pretty much said it all. One minute he's like basketball version of Coach Klein in Adam Sandler's "The Waterboy." Then the next minute he almost seems senile ... in a basketball sense. A 9-27 fourth quarter is just head-scratching after building up a 16 point lead.
At the same time, games like this when Nelson gets the most out of D-leaguers is when I love him. I got to say watching a squad of d-leaguers and Stephen Curry on the court building a lead is pretty hilarious to watch. In all honesty, I don't think the Warriors have been THIS skilled at all positions like they have been recently with Tolliver, Chris Hunter, Reggie Williams, and Anthony Morrow (not a d-leaguer). In recent years, the Warriors have NOT have consist shooting threats at the wings and not since Rony Seikley have they had a center, Chris Hunter, that can actually shoot... albeit not very well and even worse when he's closer to the hoop. But there's a lot to like about this team so far and they way they compete every night. But more importantly, I'm impressed by their general ability to shoot and handle the rock. This, oddly, is something we're not quite able to see from our "stars" yet and possibly ever.
Which brings us to the next question....
What is Reggie Williams' future with the Warriors? I know us Warrior fans love to hype up the newest Warrior as if he was going to be the savior of the franchise. Even when the Warriors started serving Dippin' Dots, I thought the Warriors franchise had finally made it! Who needs star power? We got dippin dots like at the Staples Center!
Anyway, I appreciate Reggie Williams' hustle and his sharp shooting. But more importantly, the dude can handle the rock and showed this off, getting to the hoop a few times, drawing fouls, too. We haven't had a chance to see much of his mid-range game yet. It's questionable whether he has one or not. But as far as skill-set goes, you could say he might be the second best shooter on our team right now, next to Morrow. He was 5-7 from the field and 40% from deep tonight.
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Got to love what Anthony Tolliver did tonight. He hit a few big shots, but more importantly he gave the Warriors a lot of second chance points. It was nice to see him battle for offensive rebounds when more often than not there was not another Warrior in sight.
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I found myself asking the question?
How is it the plodding half court team can bump and grind throughout the game yet get called for half as many calls? I know its sour grapes, but come on. Its our court and as we could hear Nellie yelling at the refs as time ran out " We deserved better than this!"
8th alias and on probation
I promise to be kinder and gentler
Drive and kick
drive and finish. The fact that roy took it to the rack so much helps alot. Also magg’s seemed off I was expecting him to foul out aldridge in the first q? what gives?
by These Refs Suck on Mar 12, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
5 Smalls?
I know Tolliver was in foul trouble, but how come we had 5 smalls running most of the 4th quarter? I saw Hunter on the bench. I don’t think he got a minute of playing time in the 4th…..
How did Nellie think we were going to grab rebounds against LaMarcus and Camby with Maggette as our center?? o_O
It's a Nellie thing
When the other team goes really big, he has a tendency to go really small. /shrug
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 12, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Wooo...
Great game!
We played good enough to keep it exciting, and we still lost.
Win, Win.
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
A few things. First, Tolliver is a career 29.8% 3 point shooter, and 34.1% this year. 34.1% is not good enough for him to be shooting as many 3’s as he is. Understanding your limits as a player is important.
Second, what is TNT’s problem with camera angles? Basketball perfected camera angles like 30+ years ago (completely made that number up). I want to watch the game from the same sie camera angle we always watch it, is it that hard? Does anyone actually like those crap angles they cut to? Why mess with a good thing, just let us watch the gosh darned game the way it’s meant to be watched.
Third, defense. Hey, remember when Monta owned Brandon Roy on both ends! I think that argument’s been put to rest for good. Roy’s now gone for 37/6/5 and 41/8/3 the last two games against us. We need better D from Monta to compete. If he’s not going to give us acceptable D, honestly, I don’t think he’s worth his contract and we’re better off moving on without him (and I’ve been in the opposite camp for a long time). Don’t take this as an individual attack on Monta, though, he’s one of many culprits that reflect an organizational anti-defense dysfunction, which Nellie is a big part of. I don’t have the answers, but I can identify the problem, and the problem is the entire Warriors organization isn’t concerned enough with defense, from player acquisition to coaching to a general emphasis on it to the lineups we choose to play. It’s unacceptable, and going to hold us back from competing until it changes.
Ugh.
Two things:
The one camera angle I did like was from the corner, I thought it was a fresh perspective and it was almost like seeing what the fans were seeing.
And all this talk about defense, qu’est qu’est sest defense? you have to care about winning to care about defense.
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
Does anyone actually like those crap angles they cut to?
Yeah, I kinda liked that court level shot from the corner when the ball bounced off someone and came straight at us like" think fast" !
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 12, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I didn’t mind the court level angles, but the picture-in-picture was nauseous.
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 12, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
What about the one from the opposite side hoop? That one bugged me a lot, as well as the picture in picture.
by Missing Barry on Mar 12, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
That one bugged me a lot, as well as the picture in picture.
I don’t like the picture in picture but I like the court level views from different spots, make me feel more in the game.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 12, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
I never thought
picture-in-picture can cause dizziness lightheaded and nauseous. Anyway I never felt that way maybe that is the advantage watching basketball on a 19 inch TV. Watching Warriors on a big screen TV all in all can cause and may experience all this symptoms worst can even lead to epilepsy. Sometimes can even lead to heart failure. So ask your physician if watching Warriors game is good for you. Because that what I felt yesterday a heart failure a heart broken lost.
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
At least Orlando and Chicago was a blowout
So we got to see the start of the game.
by Sabonis4Ever on Mar 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
34.1% is not good enough for him to be shooting as many 3’s as he is.
34.1% is plenty good enough. Shooting that % from 3 is like shooting 51.2% from 2 pt land. There are only 7 teams in the NBA who shoot an effective FG% higher than that.
it’s all perception. i know a lot of you think Monta’s mid-range jumper in 07-08 was automatic, but it was only 43.9% and over his career, his mid-range j is under 40%. but since you see the ball go in more, you perceive it to be more effective than it really is.
by homer simpson on Mar 12, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Still
he’s a below average 3 point shooter.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 12, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
34.1% is plenty good enough. Shooting that % from 3 is like shooting 51.2% from 2 pt land. There are only 7 teams in the NBA who shoot an effective FG% higher than that.
51.2% from 2 point land = 51.2% TS%, which is poor. You pretty much never get fouled on 3 point shots. Effective FG% doesn’t take fouls into account, which is why it’s basically a pointless stat. Overall, shooting 34.1% is well below average efficiency.
by Missing Barry on Mar 14, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
to be fair monta didn’t play the second quarter, when roy scored 12 of his 41. I think this shows that roy is a problem for any of our guards, monta included. of course, monta was getting questionable foul calls all night, so that definitely was limiting on the defensive end.
And we actually pushed our lead even further out when he came back in the 3rd
Morrow did a lot of guarding on Roy this game
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
Monta can't play aggressive D if the refs don't let him...
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
Monta can't play aggressive D if the refs don't let him...
well then he should learn to play legal D?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 12, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Ya the problem with that is
The other team doesn’t get the same standards when he is on offense.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
The other team doesn’t get the same standards when he is on offense.
They don’t reach as much. The warriors have no choice but to gamble on D cause we are too small.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 12, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
CJ Watson with 9 seconds to go
Haha, CJ watson the “Keeper of the lottoballs”. Everyone else is livin the lie and CJ coolly steps up and sez “the emperor has no clothes” Then had to go over and explain it to Nellie :>)
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 12, 2010 12:12 PM PST reply actions
We lost this cause of foul trouble and poor coaching in the end
Maggs at center? Monta played well, Curry’s shot was off and Morrow couldn’t guard Roy for his life. We were lucky that we didn’t have a 3QC again. Instead we actually increased our lead, mainly cause Monta went off in that quarter. Than fouls kicked in and we were screwed. If Curry didn’t shoot as bad as he did I say we win this game
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
Man… has it happened so often this season that we now use “3QC” as the abbreviation for 3rd quarter collapse?
by samuraaaaiiiiiii on Mar 12, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
If Curry didn't shoot as bad
and/or if Monta didn’t foul out we definitely win.
And it wasn’t only his last foul that was “some bull****, man!”
by WheresMyChippy on Mar 12, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
I think if we played CH at the end
instead of Maggette, we could ahve won.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 12, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
What happens to those missing posts?
where do they go? Reading thru the recent fanposts and fanshots I saw one called "Why randolf is not on the bench " or something like that but when I click on it the sign says error 404 or some such crap? I tried a few others and the most interesting titles were all gone?? Is there a bug in the works or a post deleting worm??
I don’t like to be held in suspense, I want to know why Randolf is not on the bench , not read some missing post notice :>)
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 12, 2010 9:24 PM PST reply actions
But every home game I have seen Randolph on the bench….
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 12, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
But every home game I have seen Randolph on the bench….
haha, maybe that post would have explained it? Now we’ll never know?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 12, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
They get removed/hidden. Not high enough quality. Initially I thought that was pretty harsh and questionable, but once I paid attention and saw how often it happens, I realized how necessary it is….
by Missing Barry on Mar 14, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
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