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Oh, what a night!
Tonight -- and thanks in large part to Twitter -- I made the following revelations...
- Hey, Larry Ellison, you know what? Maybe the Warriors are worth whatever Chris Cohan's price tag is ($315M on $110M in revenues and profitability of $12M?).
- Based on the past few games, maybe the Warriors just need to go balls out in the Draft with bigs? There should be a plethora of quality bigs available this summer.
- Are there really that many Laker fans in the Bay Area?
- Rickey Henderson looks old.
- Tony.psd needs to do a Chewbacca-like cartoon rendition of Pau Gasol.
- Monta Ellis blowing by Kobe proves that he has one of the most, if not the most, explosive right-handed attacks in the league. That being said, I don't know how you can trade him.
For this recap I'm gonna go bleeding edge on ya. See, ever since the opening night experiment I've been feeling my way through Twitter. And over the past few months, it dawned on me. It's hard to explain, so I'll let Nate Jones of AOL Fanhouse sum it up (I found this article after-the-fact)...
Twitter has quickly become the NBA's version of Cheers. You know, the place where everyone knows your name and they're always glad you came. No, Twitter isn't some fictional sports bar in Boston, but it is a virtual sports bar where NBA fans, players, team personnel, player agents and NBA writers all congregate to talk about the sport. The NBA recently released a tool called a "game companion" which you keep open while you're watching the game. However, everyone in the know understands that the real game companion is located at twitter.com.Because I write about the NBA and work with NBA players on social media I try to follow every single person with some sort of connection to the NBA. Following all of these people has made the experience of watching an NBA game that much more fun. I get the communal sports bar experience without having to go around a bunch of drunks that don't really know what they are talking about...It's created a virtual sports bar where people that actually watch and understand the game come to talk about that night's happenings. When I'm watching a game I always have Twitter open. The stream of information that pours out on game nights from these NBA junkies makes the game experience that much better.
Using my @nbalivetweet account, which I use to follow a very pared-down subset of GSoM's twitter account, @unstoppablebaby, for tonight's game, I've taken the tweets of the better Twitterers out there, two that follow the Warriors and two that follow the Lakers...
- @gswscribe, Marcus Thompson, beat-writer for the Contra Costa Times,
- @GeoffLepper, Geoff Lepper, who covers the Warriors on NBA.com,
- @KevinDing, Kevin Ding, beat-writer for the Orange County Register, and
- @LakersReporter, Mike Trudell of Lakers.com
Incidentally, most of these beat-writers get courtside seats and are within earshot of the team benches. They generally do a good job of sharing their access via Twitter.
Before I begin, has there ever been a recap written like this? If not, remember where you saw this first!
Here are the quarter-by-quarter tweets, which is essentially the recap...
FIRST QUARTER HIGHLIGHTS: There's that many Laker fans at Oracle? Anthony Tolliver for three!
LakersReporter Hello from Oracle Arena in Oakland, folks ... Warriors still come out to 50 Cent's "Get Up," which we like.
KevinDing Game nearing tip-off and Brian Shaw (Oakland native) is still waving to tons of people in crowd. Friend of everyone in Oak and entire NBA.
geofflepper #GSW start Chris Hunter and Anthony Tolliver in an attempt to deal with Lakers' imposing frontline.
LakersReporter An impressive amount of Lakers fans yet again in Oakland, though the Warrior fans remain easily among the league's best.
geofflepper Hunter gets completely free on S/R with Ellis, dunks. Bynum and Kobe look around at Pau and Fish, wondering where was weakside help. #GSW
LakersReporter Lots of offense early, Golden State holding a 11-8 lead on 4-of-6 shooting despite 2 straight Gasol - sans braces - buckets.
gswscribe I wonder if being defended by someone undersized and really quick makes Kobe a tad uncomfortable
gswscribe No exaggeration. Lakers fans cheering louder than Warriors fans at Oracle Arena tonight
gswscribe Curry and Ellis 0-for-5 combined, but all good looks and good strokes
geofflepper Anthony Tolliver's 3-point shooting, which started so slowly (missed 26 of his first 31 as a #GSW) is coming around. He's 2-2 so far tonight
KevinDing Maggette just lost the handle trying to make a move. Kobe knows how that feels. We've underreported how index finger affects Kobe's handle.
gswscribe Chris Hunter is good against really big centers. He's just big enough that he is physically an obstacle
LakersReporter L.A. started the game 6-of-6 from the field and 3-of-3 from the line, but 3 TO's & 2 G.S. 3's have the game tied at 16.
LakersReporter Since the 6-of-6 start, L.A. has missed 6 straight. In unrelated news, Bynum has completely shaved his head, if you didn't notice.
gswscribe 16 all, 5:23 left in first. Both teams 6-for-12 FGs. Kobe 5 pts and 2 ast. Ellis 0-for-3 but has 4 of 6 Warriors asts.
KevinDing While Phil goes over clipboard in timeout for starters, DJ is advising Sasha on how much he should mess up his hair. Seriously.
LakersReporter We know that G.S. has a slew of D-Leagers playing due to a plethora of injuries ... 1 of 'em, A. Tolliver, is 3-of-3 from 3 so far.
gswscribe Anthony Tolliver is 3-for-3 from 3. He entered tonight at 33.3 percent
geofflepper #GSW shooting 60 percent, have committed only 1 TO and still can do no better than a tie game at 23-all with LAL. Lakers are just scary good
KevinDing Pau earlier looked at coaches and gave shrug/palms up after Tolliver 3. RT @The_GodfatherX: @KevinDing Who the F is Anthony Tolliver?
LakersReporter It's been a fun game for those that enjoy offense, L.A. going up 30-23 thanks to back-to-back 3's from Artest that Kobe loved.
gswscribe Kobe just took over at Ellis' expense. Went right at Ellis 3 straight, twice kicking it out for an easy J. Plus he stripped Ellis once
geofflepper Kobe drives from R wing, blows past Hunter, leaves Ellis sprawled on floor, fires across to Artest for the open 3. LAL 30, #GSW 23.
KevinDing Early in this timeout, Sasha is acting like DJ's chest and now his face is a speed bag to punch.
KevinDing Anthony Morrow in for Warriors. He has made 13 of his past 19 3-pointers. Let's see if Lakers identify him.
LakersReporter Just nailed one. RT @KevinDing: A. Morrow in for Warriors. He has made 13 of his past 19 3-pointers. Let's see if Lakers identify him.
KevinDing Sure enough ... Lakers D fails to rotate second time. Morrow moves to 14 of 20.
gswscribe Lakers made first six shots, missed next six shots, then made next six shots ... make that next seven
gswscribe Warriors frontcourt: 11-for-11. Warriors backcourt 1-for-9
KevinDing Really concerted effort at running triangle so far (and GSt D makes it easy). LAL will finish Q1 with 13 assists on 14 FGs.
nbalivetweet Pau Gasol has definitely mastered the yell-as-if-i-got-fouled technique.
LakersReporter A solid 1st quarter for Gasol ... other than at the free throw line. He has 9 pts on 4-of-5 FG's w/3 reb, but 1-of-4 FTs.
LakersReporter Both Bryant & Artest had 4 assists in the 1st Q that L.A. finished up 39-32, 4 guys w/at least 8 pts & Odom w/5 off bench.
geofflepper END 1Q: LAL 39, #GSW 32. Strange days: W's frontcourt (Maggette, Tolliver, Hunter) 10-10 FG. Ellis/Curry 1-10. Gasol/Bynum 17 combined PTS.
LakersReporter Gasol actually went 1-of-5 in Phoenix last game from the stripe, making him 2-of-9 in last 2 ... but he's still near 80% on season.
gswscribe End of 1st: Lakers 38, Warriors 32. Kobe 9 points, 4 ast. Artest 8 points, 4 ast. Hunter/Maggette 8 each
SECOND QUARTER HIGHLIGHTS: CJ Watson looks like an all-star, makes Derek Fisher fall like a domino
nbalivetweet Phil Jackson at ESPN betw qtr interview: "We have to move the ball around perimeter and get to our big guys, Warriors have good help."
KevinDing Sasha at least got a pat on butt from Phil after being benched 32 seconds in.
gswscribe Monta (0-7 FGs) is getting good looks, but my HS coach would tell him to get a lay-up or FTs to get going. Don't just keep shooting Js
LakersReporter Offense continues to come easily for L.A., already to 42 points w/8:42 left in the 2nd, but they've conceded 39 to G.S.
KevinDing Remember how Artest's conditioning was sub-par after his Xmas concussion? He just played the 1st 15 minutes without a breather.
nbalivetweet Wow, Monta Ellis just took Kobe from top L, RH one-handed show ball, scoop.
LakersReporter A very active Lamar Odom it's been tonight. He has 9 points with 5 boards and an assist in 10 minutes.
geofflepper Assuming it's a sellout (almost a certainty), it will be just the fourth out of 34 #GSW home games: HOU (opening night), LAL (twice), CLE
nbalivetweet Mark Jackson on ESPN: "Great crowd, they've been appreciative of the franchise." Um no, Mark. Appreciate the TEAM, despise the FRANCHISE.
LakersReporter With knowledge of the smallish Warriors front line, Odom's camping out on the baseline for easy off. rebounds. It's working.
nbalivetweet So Monta just took it down the lane RH again. Explosive. Most explosive RH in the NBA?
gswscribe He took one rushed FG. Rest open pull-ups & drives @espnaranas good looks? you kidding me? I guess we know who u want this team built around
nbalivetweet Don Nelson doing some good instructional coaching to Steph Curry and Anthony Morrow.
LakersReporter Lakers are getting good balance on offense: 8 shots from Kobe, 6 from Pau, 5 from Artest, 4 from 'Drew, 4 from Odom.
nbalivetweet CJ Watson nice shake n bake, foul on floor, he makes layup hi off backboard, waved off. Not waved off if it were Kobe?
KevinDing Fish just wiped out trying to hang with CJ Watson on drive. Maybe he'll switch back to Kobe's shoes again.
nbalivetweet CJ Watson breaking ankles! Down goes Derek Fisher like a domino.
gswscribe Every time C.J. Watson comes into games, you know he's in the game.
nbalivetweet CJ Watson jumper R elbow, playing like an allstar, 3:00 to, Lakers 57, Warriors 56. Then attacks once more and goes to line for 2 FTs.
gswscribe Lakers 57, Warriors 56, 2:56 left in second. Monta Ellis 8 assists in 21 minutes despite 2-for-11 FGs.
nbalivetweet I dunno, things are going too well. I feel like a 3rd- or 4th-qtr collapse is imminent. Can the Warriors keep this up?
KevinDing Kobe goes over to Warriors bench to chit-chat with Ronny, who is sitting next to Radmanovic and Raja Bell.
LakersReporter L.A.'s coaches weren't interested in playing Golden State's up-and-down style, but we've seen it so far. Better D in 3rd Q?
LakersReporter Lakers doing exactly what Jackson warned against: turning the ball over leading to G.S. run outs. 10 TO's already, G.S. up 59-57.
geofflepper C.J. Watson steals an ill-advised X-court pass from Bynum, goes C2C to give #GSW the lead back at 59-57. Then LAL gets hit w/3 sec call.
nbalivetweet I'm gonna go out om a limb and say it. The Warriors ARE worth the price Cohan is asking. Bec of these fans. He still sucks at winning tho.
nbalivetweet CJ Watson greatly adding to his eventual free agent stock. Full court steal. Warriors 59, Lakers 57, under 2:00.
geofflepper Monta passed up a 3-point corner shot w/Kobe playing him very loose, in favor of driving baseline to try and get on track. Didn't work. #GSW
KevinDing Halftime: Lakers have 15 turnovers (-> to 17 Warriors points). Warriors have 3 turnovers (-> 3 Lakers points). Yes, this is giving it away.
geofflepper END 2Q: #GSW 65, LAL 59. W's end half on 11-2 run, w/5 from Watson. Hunter 16 PTS, 6 REB. 4 Lakers in 2x figures, but 15 TOs for 17 W's PTS.
LakersReporter G.S. closed the 2nd with a 13-3 run to take a 65-59 lead into the half, keyed by 15 L.A. turnovers. 33-20 in 2nd Q scoring.
nbalivetweet Kobe stripped, time winding down before half buzzer, of course he argues w ref. Despite his talent/skills/rings, still a primadonna. :-(
LakersReporter The 6-point halftime deficit isn't exactly daunting for L.A., who shot 58.3% & took 20 FTs. Just need to hold onto the ball.
THIRD QUARTER HIGHLIGHTS: Kobe turnovers, Steph gets hot, Monta bricks, Sasha please sit down
KevinDing Gasol comes right out of locker room at halftime and goes straight to foul line to work on that stroke. He is 4/8 on FTs.
nbalivetweet Pau Gasol has definitely mastered the yell-as-if-i-got-fouled technique. Oh wait, I said that last half.
geofflepper Kobe commits TO No. 6, Curry scores on ensuing 3-on-1 break to open the second half. #GSW
geofflepper Curry just pulled up in transition, held the ball top-key until Gasol left him to cover Tolliver, and drilled the 3. #GSW
geofflepper "M-V-P" chant starts with Kobe at the line, but then is drowned out by boos. #GSW
nbalivetweet Soooo many Laker fans live in the Bay RT @geofflepper: "M-V-P" chant starts with Kobe at the line, but then is drowned out by boos. #GSW
KevinDing After calling Gasol over to confer about strategy in timeout, Artest goes down bench to slap hands for camaraderie w/all other starters.
nbalivetweet Andrew Bynum just too long. Missed finger roll, tap putback. Anthony Tolliver can't play better D than that. Timeout Don Nelson.
geofflepper Four guys were listening to Nellie/Keith Smart during that last timeout. And then there was Monta Ellis. #GSW
nbalivetweet On ESPN broadcast, Mark Jackson going with Tyreke Evans as ROY, over Steph Curry and Brandon Jennings.
LakersReporter Lakers D has garnered 3 straight stops out of a timeout, with 3 straight hoops at the other end to turn a 3-pt. deficit upside down.
nbalivetweet Corey Maggette misses another worst-shot-in-bball. Take 2 steps back, son, and you're Rashard Lewis. Simple.
LakersReporter Make that 4 straight stops and 4 straight FG's for a 79-74 lead (8-0 run). Gasol's up to 18, Kobe 16, Bynum a 14-10 double-double.
KevinDing All those turnovers didn't hurt Lakers FG%. They've topped 60% (60.4) midway through 3rd; on pace for 126 points.
nbalivetweet Heather Cox on ESPN: "Don Nelson said Steph Curry does the 4 things right...The only thing wrong with him is he's a rookie, still a pup."
gswscribe Warriors frontline getting worn down by Gasol/Bynum/Odom - combined 47 pts, 17-23 FGs, 24 rebounds
LakersReporter It's odd that Corey Maggette has 16 pts without a single trip to the foul line. He's always among league leaders in FTA's.
LakersReporter For those of you unable to watch, L.A.'s up 83-78 w/4:09 in the 3rd Q. RT @deancortez: @LakersReporter wats now the score?
nbalivetweet CJ Watson still on bench and not much happening from Monta Ellis. Lakers 83, Warriors 78, 4:09 3rd qtr.
LakersReporter The Lakers have gone on a 20-5 run since Steph Curry's 3-pointer put G.S. up 9.
nbalivetweet Amazingly, Derek Fisher waltzes to the cup unmolested out of the timeout. Not watchu wanna see.
geofflepper Ellis, leading 3-on-2 break, kicks it over to Curry for Lwing 3-pointer. And he didn't even hold his nose while doing it. #GSW
gswscribe Ellis up tp 10 assists. Curry up to 17 points on 6-for-11 shooting with 6 assists.
nbalivetweet Beautiful swish trey L elbow Stteph Curry, assist Monta Ellis. I could watch him shoot for hours.
gswscribe Ellis 2-for-16, still taking jumpers. They should post him up.
nbalivetweet Derek Fisher 3-ball corner pocket off rim but foul called on Steph Cury. Questionable. Bottom line: momentum killer. Learn from this, rook.
LakersReporter A not-so-good stat: Kobe's up to 7 turnovers for the 2nd straight game. His high for the season was 8, @ CHI in Dec.
geofflepper #GSW offense has cooled (or, LAL D has gotten warmer): W's 8-19 FG this quarter, down 92-85.
KevinDing Standing next to ref, Gasol was looking up at scoreboard for replay to see if he hit CJ Watson in face (Pau's new thing!) but missed it.
nbalivetweet Pau Gasol slaps CJ Watson in face, down in pain. Foul. Luv how Gasol never thinks he fouls anyone. That and Chewbacca grunts. So likable!
KevinDing And thought he was fouled on each one tonight. RT @LakersReporter: Kobe's up to 7 turnovers for 2nd straight game. High for season was 8.
LakersReporter Bryant is the exact opposite of happy after not getting a foul called on his 8th turnover. He also has 20 pts & 4 dimes, L.A. up 7.
geofflepper Strange game for Monta Ellis, who is 2-17 FG but has 10 AST and has hounded Kobe Bryant into 8 TOs. On pace for another 48-minute game. #GSW
LakersReporter The Lakers handled Golden State rather easily in the 3rd Q, outscoring Golden State 35-22 to take a 94-87 lead into the 4th.
nbalivetweet Sasha Vujajic getting some filler minutes near end of 3rd. Just looks awkward out there with the purple short-sleeve tighties under jersey.
KevinDing Boxing on the brain after Pacquiao fight, apparently. Now Farmar and Powell fake-jabbing each other in timeout.
geofflepper END 3Q: LAL 94, #GSW 87. Lakers limit TOs to *only* 5, continue blistering FG pace (61.8%). Tolliver/Hunter combined 0-4 in quarter.
4TH QUARTER HIGHLIGHTS: Ah crap! Oh wow! Yeah! Yeah! No! Hurry! Oh!
Where Ah Crap = Kobe's late and-one as a nail in the coffin, Oh wow = Kobe's turnover, Yeah(1) = Kobe's missed FT, Yeah(2) = Steph getting open with a few ticks left, No = Steph missing a wide-open trey, Hurry = Monta's offensive rebound and race back to trey land before buzzer sounding, Oh = Monta's triple-rim-bouncing miss at the buzzer. For less chaos, just watch the NBA.com clip below.
LakersReporter Lamar Odom looked over at Vladi Radmanovic after nailing a turnaround on Devean George to beat the shot clock. Vladi laughed.
LakersReporter Monta Ellis is having the opposite of a good shooting game. He's 2-for-18 from the field. Yikes. Does have 10 dimes.
KevinDing Monta Ellis 2 for 18 from field with 10:22 to play. Not easy to score and defend Kobe at same time.
nbalivetweet Devean George still got the sweet stroke, deep R elbow trey. I'm sure he got his laser on for his former team. Warriors def up for this gm.
geofflepper #GSW go small, LAL go right to Lamar Odom, being "covered" by Monta. Ellis can't stop him from scoring easily.
LakersReporter At the other end of the efficiency spectrum from Ellis is Odom, who is 6-of-6 for 15 pts w/9 reb. Pau 9-of-12, 22 pts.
KevinDing Twitter's character limit is not suited for number of fundamental things Shannon Brown just did wrong in a three-minute span.
nbalivetweet Steph Curry step-around layup. He's so good, being a rook. Dickie V got it right. Raved about him at/before Draft.
nbalivetweet Devean George 3-ball corner pocket! Last attempt went in n out. He came to play. Also took a charge on Andrew Bynum.
nbalivetweet So anyways, looks like Steph Curry broken out of slump vs Lakers. Monta Ellis, no.
KevinDing Kobe is now (with smile) kidding Shannon about him just standing there in paint earlier instead of challenging drive late in P&R play.
geofflepper LOL. RT @KevinDing Twitter's character limit is not suited for number of fundamental things Shannon Brown just did wrong in a 3-minute span.
gswscribe Lakers 100, Warriors 95. Curry leads Ws with 19. Maggette 18. Kobe 20 on 7-for-13. Gasol 22 and 8
nbalivetweet Timeout. Lakers 100, Warriors 95, under 9:00, 4th qtr.
KevinDing I'll say the same thing I said in Phoenix: Sasha is funny.
geofflepper Curry banks home a 10-footer, then drills quick transition 3 to get #GSW within a point, 101-100 LAL.
nbalivetweet On one end of the spectrum you have Kobe, most athletic. Other end, Sasha Vujajic. Just looked silly on that rimmer and attempted save OOB.
gswscribe I know someone is going nuts now that Curry is taking over. He's got seven in the quarter.
nbalivetweet Steph Curry with a crafty banker and a stepback trey. But Lakers size ends the momentum. Andrew Bynum power and-one.
KevinDing Shannon has made so many mistakes, he ran over to bench thinking for sure he was yanked. Phil had to send him back in.
LakersReporter Moments ago, it was 100-90 Lakers. G.S. then went on a 10-1 run capped by Curry's 3 before a tough and-1 from Bynum (19 & 13).
LakersReporter Continues to be a great showing from my personal favorite NBA road crowd here in Oakland, their team down 3, 6:41 to go.
nbalivetweet Lamar Odom indefensible running floater. Lakers 106, Warriors 100, under 7:00.
nbalivetweet Steph Curry opposite court assist and-one to Anthony Tolliver after driving L baseline. Wow! FT good. Lakers 106, Warriors 103.
LakersReporter Holy .... Shannon Brown just jumped 15 feet into the air for a rebound.
gswscribe Back-to-back terrible shots by Curry. Those two possessions are why jumpers in transition are a bad practice. Meanwhile, Lakers going inside
geofflepper Oracle crowd was waiting to erupt, but Curry missed the open 3. Then Kobe, working on Maggette, gets easy layup and one. LAL 110, #GSW 103.
nbalivetweet Andrew Bynum's length gives more opps off Kobe's miss layup via post. But misses! Steph Curry can't bring house down tho. Kobe back w and-1.
gswscribe Great question. Warriors down 53-21 on boards @jamesvenes Has an NBA team ever finished the game with more assists than rebounds?
KevinDing Pretty funny to watch all the Lakers' fans sprout up and start pointing and at Warriors fans after Kobe hits his and-1.
gswscribe They just announced Rickey Henderson's presence and put him on the big screen, only everyone in front of him stood up
KevinDing Celeb moment here in Oakland on the scoreboard ... Rickey Henderson! You do what you can when you're not Staples.
KevinDing The best part of it was fans here in Oakland are so manic that they all went crazy jumping up in front of Rickey and we could barely see him
LakersReporter Dark spot in otherwise terrific game from Bynum (19 pts, 14 rebs & 3 blks): 8 TO's, like Kobe. G.S. has 5 total. L.A. still up 8.
nbalivetweet Don Nelson mic'd up (to Anthony Tolliver?): "You should never run from under basket to be a shooter."
nbalivetweet Do the Warriors have one last push? Lakers 111, Warriors 103 after Kobe makes the and-one FT.
nbalivetweet Steph Curry trey R elbow early offense (are any Warrior buckets not early?), Lakers 114, Warriors 108. But Kobe trey other way.
LakersReporter Curry's 5th 3 was answered immediately by Kobe, who now has 28 pts. Then a Fish to Pau alley-oop put L.A. up 11, 3 min left.
geofflepper Kobe nails a 3 in Ellis' mug, then Fisher oops to Pau on 4-on-2 break. LAL 119, #GSW 108, 3:18 left. Somebody cue Dandy Don.
gswscribe Kobe 3 and Gasol dunk puts Warriors down 119-108, 3:18 left. Bryant 28 and 4 ast. Curry 27 and 7 ast. Turned out to be nce game for Curry
KevinDing 11 on 1/31/08 at DET. He has 8 with 3:18 to play. RT @LakersHighlight: @KevinDing what's kobe's career high for turnovers?
geofflepper But only 2&1 in second half, when LAL got serious. RT @DonNelsonRiley Hunter has 18&7 against NBA's best frontcourt. Earned more minutes?
nbalivetweet Oops, delete my tweet. Missed it. Thx to Twitter, it was a Pau Gasol oop fr Derek Fisher. Lakers 119, Warriors 108, 3:14, 4th qtr collapse?
KevinDing I'll give Andrew's previous career high in TOs after I finish watching dance-off between heavyset white woman and heavyset black woman here.
KevinDing Hilarious.
KevinDing Bynum has 8 turnovers tonight. His previous career high was 6 on 1/23/08 vs. SAC.
nbalivetweet Corey Maggette blocked down low via Monta Ellis feed, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom too tall, Derek Fisher to scrappy/slappy. Blocked again.
nbalivetweet Monta Ellis breakaway layup. Pau Gasol barely misses an and-one on diminutive Corey Maggette. Lakers 121, Warriors 110, 2:00 after FTs.
LakersReporter Gasol chewed upon matchup advantages inside all night, getting to 26 pts w/9 reb, 4 ast & 1 blk on 10-of-13 FGs.
nbalivetweet Steph Curry splits Laker double up top goes up, thinks about it, scoop finger roll. He's so good. Way more skilled than half the league.
nbalivetweet Chris Hunter running layup good, Steph Curry assist via double team. Warriors down 5, 0:50. Miracle?
gswscribe Ellis was 3-for-20 before knocking down a pull-up 3 in transition after picking Kobe's pocket. 121-119, 13.9 secs left
nbalivetweet Kobe loses ball to Monta Ellis, who breaks and pulls up trey, good! Down 2 with under :24. They don't foul! Then foul Shannon Brown.
LakersReporter Wait a second ... a quick 9-0 run to an almost indifferent Lakers team had G.S. within 2, 13.9 to play, b4 2 Brown FT's. 123-119.
nbalivetweet Shannon Brown FTs good. 2nd one touches almost every part of rim. Timeout. 13.9 ticks left. Warriors down 4 to Lakers.
geofflepper Ellis strips a fallen Kobe (9th TO), pulls up for transition 3 to make it 121-119, LAL. Shannon Brown 2 FTs put Lakers up 4 w/13.9 secs left
LakersReporter Kobe has had to play 40 minutes tonight on the front end of a back-to-back. Artest 37, Gasol 35, Fisher 33.
nbalivetweet ESPN replay: Kobe slams bench seat next to Phil Jackson in frustration after the turnover.
geofflepper Ellis layup, Kobe fouled. 2 FTs coming up.
geofflepper Kobe misses 1st...
gswscribe Amidst chants of MVP, Kobe misses FT. 123-121 Lakers, 8.6 seconnds left. One more FT
nbalivetweet Monta Ellis quick layup. As I said before, fastest RH in the Association. Kobe fouled with 8.6. Misses! Subs coming in/out.
LakersReporter After L.A. conceded an Ellis layup, Kobe improbably missed the front end of 2 FTs w/8.6 to play. G.S. within 3.
geofflepper Kobe makes second. LAL 124, #GSW 121. 8.6 seconds left. W's timeout.
nbalivetweet Kobe 2nd FT good. Timeout. Lakers 124, Warriors 121, 0:08.6 remaining. Who shoots it? I'm sure the Lakers are thinking Steph Curry.
gswscribe Warriors ball, down 3, 8.6 seconds left. Tolliver (3-5 from 3), not Curry (5-8 from 3), is getting this shot
LakersReporter We'll see if the Lakers choose to foul or not, up 124-121, to avoid a game-tying 3.
nbalivetweet You might wanna decoy it to Steph Curry, then go with Anthony Morrow. Mark Jackson recommending Lakers foul. 8.6 left.
gswscribe Wow. What an ending. Curry misses the 3. Ellis rebounds it, runs out the the 3 line, it bounced three times before falling off. Lakers win
nbalivetweet The epitome of the Warriors! Steph Curry takes it out, Derek Fisher bites! Steph misses wide open trey R elbow on pass back...
geofflepper Curry 3 off back rim, Monta OREB, races to top-key, but his 3 at buzzer bounces 3 times on rim before rolling off. LAL 124, #GSW 121.
LakersReporter Lakers win. By a sliver. Both Curry & Ellis had great looks at a tying 3, both missed. Monta's bounced around rim for 3 seconds.
gswscribe Can you fault Ellis for not giving it Curry on his left or Morrow on his right, instead taking a rushed turnaround 3?
LakersReporter Your final: Lakers 124, Warriors 121, L.A. heading to Sacramento for the back end of a back-to-back tomorrow.
nbalivetweet ...but after Steph Curry's miss trey, Monta Ellis somehow gets rebound, dribbles way to top for trey, bounces on rim 2-3 times, no good!
POST-BUZZER THOUGHTS: Lakers' outrebounding and turnovers, Warriors lack of turnovers, I believe...in the value of this franchise
nbalivetweet I said it earlier and i'll say it again: Larry Ellison, believe it or not, the Warriors ARE worth that much. Please just buy the team.
LakersReporter Ridiculous stat: Lakers grabbed 56 rebounds to just 29 for the Warriors. In a related stat, L.A. had 24 TO's, G.S. just 5.
KevinDing Kobe's wife Vanessa here outside locker room, getting a hug from Ronny Turiaf.
KevinDing Turiaf now visiting with Phil Jax, who mocked Ronny's engineer cap: "The choo-choo train is leaving."
KevinDing Ronny's weak reply to Phil showed he's out of practice in dealing with Phil's barbs: "I can't hear you."
KevinDing It's not just Vanessa who is here. Lots of family/friends around postgame. Phil spending time w/ ex-wife June (who lives in SF) and son Ben.
So imagine all that happening real-time. Fun and informative, eh?
One last thought: as I mentioned, the NBA Draft this year has a lot of good big men. The Warriors have the third-worst record in the league, so you figure based on recent lottery history, they can't be any worse than Draft Pick #5 or #6, right?
In the top two, you have the highly talented ballhandlers John Wall and Evan Turner. I think Monta and Steph can co-exist and all they need are bigs who can run the floor, finish layups, and block shots. That being said, I think not drafting Wall or Turner would work out best and least complicated for the Warriors. However, if you get the #1 or #2 pick, you can't pass up either Wall or Turner. From there, you're looking at trades.
So whether or not Monta stays or gets dealt may come down to which ping pong ball the Warriors get. Let's look at the big men available:
- DeMarcus Cousins, Kentucky: I'm gonna say it. He's better offensively than Chris Webber was. This guy is special. He's just a little crazy in the head, meaning immature, but that's kind of just the tip of the iceberg.
- Derrick Favors, Georgia Tech: Also a freshman like Cousins, this kid is mobile, can finish, can rebound, can run the floor. Like I said, this is a deep draft.
- Patrick Patterson, Kentucky: This guy is NBA-ready. The only reason he is lower on the draft boards than some others is because, similar to the comparison of Turner and Wall, he's already polished. There's not much of a ceiling left, which is good and bad. I actually think it's more good than bad and that NBA GM's are too enamored by "potential" and not enough by "NBA-ready". After all, we want guys to come in and produce, right? That's worth a whole blogpost in and of itself.
- Greg Monroe, Georgetown: Not the most nimble, but still quite athletic, relatively speaking. He had a great Big East tournament, has nice face-up moves, but draft experts tend to knock him on the quickness. However, I think some of that has to do with the fact that this is a deep draft and their judging based on context.
There's others who are quality bigs who can run the floor, are athletic, and can rebound and block shots. In other drafts, they'd be higher, but the names mentioned above...wow. The Warrior front office would have to screw up royally to draft the wrong guy. Here's hoping they've been watching their boys play the last few games.
Without knowing off the cuff what the Warriors' prospects are for additional draft picks, I would also recommend some wheeling and dealing for more 2nd-rounders. Again, deep draft. Stockpile the bigs.
I watch a lot of prospects in NCAA ball and I try to picture -- and this is actually realistic! -- a DeMarcus Cousins, Derrick Favors, or Patrick Patterson D'ing up Bynum and/or Gasol tonight. Folks, it's do-able, especially if you tack on another young'un off the bench...say, shot-blocker Jarvis Varnado of Mississippi State?
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Turner's more of a 2 guard
Who can fill in at the 3 if needed. If we want a true 3, we should draft Wesley Johnson, but he needs a little polishing.
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In the top two, you have the highly talented ballhandlers John Wall and Evan Turner.
if you get the #1 or #2 pick, you can’t pass up either Wall or Turner. From there, you’re looking at trades.
Personally, much as I love Turner, I’d have a tough time passing on Cousins at #2. 15.7 rebounds and 11.2 ft attempts per 36 … as a Freshman? To me those numbers alone bespeak an inner fire that trumps any possible attitude issues. How nice would it be to have someone big and aggressive enough to beat up a little on Gasol and Bynum?
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by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Hm, on second thought, slapchop, your “no way” kinda makes sense if you mean not only that we should pick Turner at #2, but also that we shouldn’t feel obligated to trade Monta or Curry if we do pick him. My bad. It would help if phrases like “no way” were followed with a word or two of explanation about what exactly is being refuted.
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by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Draft Cousins ! Keep Monta. Ignore the "blow this team up rants.
Lets see what this team can do when finally healthy! Then analyize and make the necessary “informed” decisions. What a great game last night ! It illustrated that Monta has flexibility and could play with Curry and gave a glimmer of what would be like to have a strong big under the basket and I would hope we are patient with AB as well.
by Only In Fairfax on Mar 16, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
It illustrated that Monta has flexibility and could play with Curry
I see Monta starting to get the message his buddy jack gave him when he said this is Curry’s team. but last night Momta was not on the same page enough with Curry, he jacked up way to many shots without any ball movement, he did get some assists last night so I’m not knocking him, but he keep taking ill advised shots…
So there is some improvement and it may take the rest of this year for him to get it, but Curry has to play at a high level for that to happen Monta is old school in his head and want’s Curry to earn it…
On that last shot by Monta, was Curry open? because if he was I can’t see Curry missing two in a row? also it would show that Monta is still trying to be a one man show..on the other hand if no one was open then he made the best out of it he could..but if he had a chance to pass to Curry or AM then he made the wrong play even if he made it…it was a very high risk shot…
On that last shot by Monta, was Curry open? because if he was I can’t see Curry missing two in a row? also it would show that Monta is still trying to be a one man show..on the other hand if no one was open then he made the best out of it he could..but if he had a chance to pass to Curry or AM then he made the wrong play even if he made it…it was a very high risk shot…
I think it was a crazy sequence where he had to guess how much time was left on the clock. He probably felt that running to the 3-pt line and jacking up a shot was the only option. That was Monta’s play to make and he was one bounce from being a hero. I can’t fault him for that. I think watching replays will help him make a better decision in the future. It all boils down to these experiences that will help him and the team develop into better players. I hope.
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by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
The Draft:
Optiion 1: We should try and trade the pick along with Corey to Philly for AI9 or Indy for Granger. Obviously we’d need to add some filler, probably Azubuike, Morrow, Wright or Vlade. Call me crazy, but I would even be down to trade Corey for TPrince, and if they ask to swap picls, I’d be down to do that too.
Option 2: Draft the best available player, Cousins. I don’t see Jersey or Minny taking a big man, they both need perimeter help. Minnesota with Flynn,Turner, Love, Jefferson would be pretty good.
The reason I’m all for trading the pick, especially for a veteran wing player, is because we have plenty of young, raw, and developing players. Also, I think the 4 main frontcourt players we’ve assembled are perfect for Nellie’s system. We don’t need any of them to average 15+ ppg. But combined they should average ~25 rebounds 15-20ppg and like 5 or 6 blocks, to me those numbers can be easily reached.
I pretty much agree with that
but they are assembling some nice taleny. If they can get Rubio over here, they could start him and flynn with Turner and that front line. They’ll at least be able to score 105 ppg easily.
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PLUS ONE! I agree! I don’t understand wanting to trade the best player on the team. I can see how people could assume that Monta can’t play with Curry but the more they play together, the better they look. I say we trade the pick, Maggette, Randolph (maybe) and go and get Bosh!
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What a great game last night ! It illustrated that Monta has flexibility and could play with Curry and gave a glimmer of what would be like to have a strong big under the basket and I would hope we are patient with AB as well.
It mostly illustrated that even the best teams will let down against Dleague talent. Count the rebounds and the number of fouls we had to expend to make a game of it, then discount the turnovers back to the lakers normal number and that’s what the real game was about. Dre is not Gasol and Bynum in the paint and without help he’s gonna always be over matched, it’s the reality of smallball.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d have a tough time passing on Cousins at #2.
I was looking at the same thing, I Iike both Cousins and Favors….One thing I heard last night on the tube was he may be taking medication for Bipolor Disorder? or that may have been misinformation I’m not sure….but it would be a concern..I remember the days of Charles Haley…..If you can subdue that kind of player he can help you but if not he can ruin a team..
Also Turner seems like a difference maker, he looks like he has the all around game with a great BBIQ….I can’t put my finger on any one thing that makes his special, it seems it’s just his all around game…him and Curry would up our BBIQ to around the 180 mark =)
The reality is we will most likely draft at # and Wall/Turner will be gone….So I see either Cousins or Favors as the #3 guy…and I like them both…I think the scouts needs to look real close at Cousins….If he is not unhinged then he would be the guy we have been looking for..but if the reports are true that he has weight issues and head issues then Favors works fine..
One other player we drafted just came to mind? he was the #3 pick as I recall, Chris Washburn something like that, but he was a bit of a head case…big body little brain..anyone know whatever happened to him?
The reality is we will most likely draft at # and Wall/Turner will be gone
Since you left it blank, I’ll fill it in for you (assuming we can hold onto the #3 worst seed…)
1st pick: 15.6%
2nd pick: 15.7%
3rd pick: 15.6%
4th pick: 22.6%
5th pick: 26.5%
6th pick: 4%
So the reality is we’ll most likely be picking #5. But the real reality is … we have absolutely no clue where we’ll be picking.
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by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
1st pick: 15.6%
2nd pick: 15.7%
3rd pick: 15.6%
4th pick: 22.6%
5th pick: 26.5%
6th pick: 4%
Why would those numbers dictate that we would be @ the # 5 spot? is that a mathematical equation? It would take two other teams to bump us to the 5 spot would it not? It may be the W’s luck that we slip to 5 but I would think te odds are with us to move up rather than down…
I play the odds, and by the odds this should be our year, because in the past the only luck we had was bad luck…but with the bad juju on Cohen and company ya never know..
We will most likely be picking 3rd or 4th
Chance at 1st 15.6%
Chance at 1st or 2nd 31.3%
Chance at 1st, 2nd, or 3rd 46.9%
Chance at 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th 69.5%
I’m pretty sure this obscures more than clarifies the info I just posted.
A pie chart may be in order…
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by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure this obscures more than clarifies the info I just posted.
What is the average lotto resulted draft position for the team with the 3rd worse record over the last few years?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I could look it up for fun, but I’m pretty sire it would obscure more than it would clarify. Are simple probabilities really that hard to grasp?
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by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
D'oh
pretty sire

Freudian slip, no doubt…
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by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
see what I mean , that's about as exciting as
dreaming about the 5th pick.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I could look it up for fun, but I’m pretty sire it would obscure more than it would clarify.
in other words, you are just as lazy as I am?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would those numbers dictate that we would be @ the # 5 spot?
The numbers dictate … well, exactly what they dictate: that we’ll be picking at either the 1,2,3,4,5, or 6 spot. As the lottery is almost certainly not fixed, and there’s almost certainly no such thing as juju and curses, you can take the numbers for exactly what they are. Don’t make me draw a pie chart for you!
Personally, while I’m sure there’ll be all manner of wailing and teeth gnashing and “WHY US???” around here if we pop #5, I’ll be at peace with it. For one thing, after #2, picks #3 through #6 or so seem pretty comparable in value. For another, we’ve already had a ton of “luck,” in lottery terms, by being the most injured team in NBA history, and by vastly underperforming our pythagorean record (by point differential, we’re only the 8th or 9th worst team in the league).
My friendly advice, to you and everyone here: Wrap your mind around pick #5. You’ll have only a 4% chance of being disappointed, and a 70% chance of being pleasantly surprised.
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by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
My friendly advice, to you and everyone here: Wrap your mind around pick #5. You’ll have only a 4% chance of being disappointed, and a 70% chance of being pleasantly surprised.
I agree in part because I know if we do slip and our expectations are lower to start with we might save a lot of web space on GSOM..but the law of sowing and reaping may be in our favor…all bad things must one day come to an end as all good things do, ask the Bulls about that one =)…the night has to give way to the morning…and the winter has to give way to spring..so have alittle faith there sleepy one….We’re moving on up !!
We’re moving on up !!
Well, things tend to “regress to the mean”, and given how far under the mean we are for franchise performance….yeah, we should expect to “move on up”, but in this particular case, Sleepy’s given us the odds, all we can expect to happen is those odds play out….
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
and given how far under the mean we are for franchise performance….yeah, we should expect to "move on up",
That’s about the truth of it, We been so far under that we have to look down to see up….
But it’s kind of like the one legged man, he thought he had it bad till he meet a man with no legs at all…the spiral down can be a long and painful descent….as they say it’s not the fall that kills ya though, It’s that sudden stop!! ….that’s the rock bottom….NJ hit that this year LOL no where left but up!!
NJ hit that this year
Ha, NJ has always been below Golden State. Even when they were in the Finals, at the end of the day, all their fans had to live in New Jersey, while Warriors fans get to live in the Bay. We win that one.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
The day they draw the balls while the public can see is the day you can say it is almost certainly not fixed with proof. Until then, your guess is as good as mine.
OK, then: it’s probably not fixed. “Almost certainly” may have been overstating it. I’d say there’s about a 99.3% chance it’s not fixed. But heck, even if the public could see it, it still could be fixed.
And who knows, there could be such thing as juju and curses…
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by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
And who knows, there could be such thing as juju and curses…
Glad to see your coming around, you forgot to add Leprechaun’s Fairy’s, and Santa Claus !!!
and… KARMA!
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
and… KARMA
I would of said that but I didn’t have the correct spelling at the time, and you know that would of given Sleepy fits !!
I’ve heard the real concept that Karma developed from is that actions are reciprocated – if you do something nice for someone, either they’ll do something nice for you in the future or it will inspire a chain of nice events that leads back to you (or the flip side where you do something mean instead of nice). In no way does that apply to our lottery ball situation (unless you believe the lotto is rigged?)…
by Missing Barry on Mar 17, 2010 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions
My friendly advice, to you and everyone here: Wrap your mind around pick #5.
Haha, Who wants to dream about the 5th hottest girl you saw today?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
probably a rumor. if you want the real insight on his red flags, read the jason king’s story on yahoo about “getting to know demarcus cousins”
Yahoo story on Demarcus Cousins
i think the W’s have to take a chance on this kid. if he rebounds anything in the pros the way he does in college, he’ll complement the Curry/Ellis back court & this teams need for toughness & bulk inside the most.
i really like Turner, but 2011 has HS SFs Harrison Barnes & Perry Jones as the top 2 players, along with CJ Leslie who also might be a top 10 pick guy. on top of that there is nobody in the top 10 who weighs over 230 (and he’s international so you know he weighs less than that). it’s just easier to find Swing players.
the W’s probably will be in the lottery again next year (especially if they pick a 19 yr old big (automatic foul trouble as in the 1st 2-3 seasons). Wright still only has the experience of a rookie, he’s played less minutes than AR did in Anthony’s rookie season. AR is still a negative on the floor & AB hasn’t been the same since late in the 08-09 season when his groin injuries started up.
plus, while the old teams like the Mavs & Spurs are slowing down, they probably will still be playoff teams next season. PHX may slip but unless Nash is done, they’ll probably be better than the W’s. Houston should be a playoff team with Yao, Grizzlies & Hornets will probably still be better than the W’s, the Clips may be dangerous depending on how good Blake Griffin is & who they pick up in the draft.
by homer simpson on Mar 16, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
probably a rumor. if you want the real insight on his red flags, read the jason king’s story on yahoo about "getting to know demarcus cousins"
and go watch youtube interviews with the kid. He sounds pretty sharp to me and I’m not easy to please.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Nothing is more embarassing than another team having enough fans that make enough of an impact.
I didnt go to the game tonight, but I have been to a few Lakers Warriors games. Its tough. Just boo Bryant, just cuz theyre are so many cheers for #24 of the other team. …..Its tough to be a Warriors fan, so thanks to the thousands of fans tonight that reperesented the bay instead of SoCal….
Thing B
by warriorsscore110 on Mar 16, 2010 2:49 AM PDT reply actions
Hey
Rickey Henderson looks old.
He can still play.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 16, 2010 6:34 AM PDT reply actions
Monroe
Greg Monroe, Georgetown: Not the most nimble, but still quite athletic, relatively speaking. He had a great Big East tournament, has nice face-up moves, but draft experts tend to knock him on the quickness. However, I think some of that has to do with the fact that this is a deep draft and their judging based on context.
I’d just like to add that he’s easily the best passing big man in college basketball and will quickly become one of the best in the NBA. He’s still just a sophomore at Georgetown.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 16, 2010 6:35 AM PDT reply actions
Considering
one of the (many) weaknesses of the team is currently passing (or lack thereof), having a center who can dish out 5+ assists a game would be a big asset. However he does have some serious questions about his motor and athleticism, which cratered his draft stock last year. Most similar NBA player would seem to be Brad Miller, which wouldn’t be a bad pick at say 6.
Can you elaborate a little on what it is that makes you say he’s a headcase?
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by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he's known as being immature but then again he is still young
I’ve read that scouts are concerned that his lack of explosiveness will hurt him at the next level. Right now he’s just stronger than everyone else in college
by GoldenSt8OfMind on Mar 16, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I for one am in favor of a kid that had a little bit of an attitude. He just needs to be able to channel it into a positive aggressiveness and he will be a force.
Better a little Sheed, then a little POB.
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
I think if he is reined in by his teammates and coaches he could take more of his nasty streak to the court. As of now he looks like a dominating rebounder and has enough offensive game to be a 20/10 guy in the NBA. However, I’m not sure I would want him on the Warriors due to the lack of veteran leadership and how Nellie deals with rookies, especially ones with attitudes. Him and AR would make quite the frontcourt if everything went right though.
I could see him and AR in the front court, might even think about reuping my league pass.
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
I could see him and AR in the front court, might even think about reuping my league pass
Haha, their two attitudes might just fit together like pieces of a championship puzzle? I think we could use a little craziness, the sweetness of our kids is kinda making me sick .
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Chech out Kings article in yahoo sports today on Cousins.
Gives more in-depth info rather than just listening to the one liners. Wall is a future superstar most likely , after that Cousins has as much skill and talent/potential as anyone out there including Turner except that he has that 6-11 270 lb ,7’-6/7" wingspan to go with it. Can play high/low post C or PF. Could this help the Warriors? You Betcha.
by Only In Fairfax on Mar 16, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
The mere fact that athletic 6’11, 270 lb human beings are a very rare commodity, and we could use a little downlow crazy on our roster, makes him pretty appealing to me.
Wall
Turner
Cousins
I’ll be thrilled with any of these guys. We have so many needs, beggars can’t be choosers.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
Profitability of $12 Million...
that kind of sucks. Sounds like a crappy deal for Ellison.
Don’t you think $12 million is kind of low for the amount of money $300+Million invested? (If those are the true numbers) How long will it take to get his money back? At that rate he’ll have to wait 25 years to get his money back if he gets an average of $12 million a year. And we’re not even talking about profits yet.
You’re forgetting capital gains.
According to David Stern, many NBA teams are losing money, a $12M profit isn’t too shabby.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
If you mean by capital gains a lower tax rate like 15% versus straight up income then yes $12 million income to the Warriors Organaization is going to be worth more than $12 million in straight up to a player for example.
I’m not sure how the Warriors Organization is setup. Isn’t Cohan the controlling shareholder so doesn’t he have to divide the profits with the others shareholders? If true then this would make the $12 million even smaller.
No, I mean capital gain as in once he purchases the franchise, he owns that asset, and professional sports franchise values tend to appreciate. If he buys the Warriors for $350M today, and 10 years from now they’re worth $450M, you have to factor in $100M in capital appreciation to the cash flow profits to find ROI.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not an accountant and don’t understand corporate taxation and accounting principles. I take it to mean that he’d have to have capital gains when he sold the Warriors because it would be “realized” at that point?
Be that as it may, $350 million seems high in a valuation of the business. If it were any other business outside of the NBA it’s not a money maker.
Eh, I’m not an accountant either, we don’t have to get too deep into it, you just have to realize in addition to the yearly profits, he’s also purchasing an asset. It’s like a stock with dividends – you don’t make your money back on the dividends (which are just like the profits the Warriors make), they pay way, way less than the stock price, but if the stock price goes up, you make money in addition to the dividends. In this case, it’s a very good bet the stock price will go up, the “stock” being the Golden State Warriors.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
How long will it take to get his money back?
Who cares, if I was a billionaire and wanted a team I wouldn’t worry about a lousy 12 million. It’s not gonna change his life one way or the other, he couldn’t spend all his money in one lifetime if he started now and lost 12 million every year till he died.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
a. hell. of. a. game.
Seriously that was FANtastic.
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by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 16, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
game time tweets
One thing about a sports bar is that you can keep your eyes on the game while you talk and listen. I imagine tweeters have to catch a lot of replays.
Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
What I don’t understanding about this Twitter crap is why would anyone want to limit their conversations to one line or whatever Twitter’s limit is? That’s not a conversation, that’s a brief soundbite. How can you say anything interesting/worthwhile in that few words?
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s called short form. Twitter has changed everything. You can argue all you want, but I get more information reading tweets than I do from any other media source. If there’s anything more to elaborate on, there will be links to articles.
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by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
You can argue all you want, but I get more information reading tweets than I do from any other media source.
How does this improve upon a blog/forum medium, for instance? I really just don’t see how limiting characters is a positive thing and does anything but limit conversation rather than facilitate it.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
How does this improve upon a blog/forum medium, for instance?
It’s an easy way for someone to get a brief idea/message out. Athlete A wants to say something quick like “Kobe is amazing” there you go. Downside is it’s abused and like 95% gibberish
Yeah, I don’t see the appeal of those brief messages. All it is, basically, is a facebook status or aim/gmail away message. Yawn, not interested. On the other hand, for the type of “tweets” you see in this post….well, even I, huge hater of Bill Simmons, have come across a Simmons game or draft blog every now and then (mostly in the past when I actually read ESPN articles!) – what’s the difference between what he was doing and this Twitter stuff? Nothing as far as I can tell. Twitter adds no value whatsoever to that as far as I can see, and I still have a huge problem with the charaacter limit.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Twitter adds no value whatsoever to that as far as I can see, and I still have a huge problem with the charaacter limit.
I read Twitter on my phone before I go to bed. Most of the time it provides links to articles that are of interest. Much easier than going to surf the web to try to find these things. You just follow a few people of interest and bam, you’re bombarded with resources.
Again, it shouldn’t replace any sort of medium, it just helps funnel the information to your interests.
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by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t that exactly what an RSS feed does…?
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t that exactly what an RSS feed does…?
Twitter provides more immediate information. RSS feeds can take a few hours to update. Plus, as you say below, more people have chosen Twitter. More people = more information.
But, RSS feeds eliminate the social networking aspect. However, I rarely use Twitter as a social networking tool.
http://www.geekpreneur.com/twitter-vs-rss-feed-reader-the-smackdown
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by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
it just helps funnel the information to your interests.
You just follow a few people of interest and bam, you’re bombarded with resources.
I think therin lies the problem – if all you are “bombarded” with are things in which you yourself chose to be exposed to then it’s sort of like a social cocoon – kinda like getting all your news information from FOX News or only watching MSNBC. It’s a bit too egocentric – but then again if you like it you already know that and that’s why you like it.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
I think therin lies the problem – if all you are "bombarded" with are things in which you yourself chose to be exposed to then it’s sort of like a social cocoon – kinda like getting all your news information from FOX News or only watching MSNBC. It’s a bit too egocentric – but then again if you like it you already know that and that’s why you like it.
No, it’s not like that all. And perhaps “bombarded” was not the right word. I choose to receive information on the Warriors via Twitter, and it’s not a self-imposed biased “social cocoon” nor is it ego-centric. Not sure what you mean by that. But, Twitter is a useful tool for me to get instant information on anything related to the Warriors. It provides me different angles and views on the Warriors I wouldn’t get from just reading a couple blog sites. So on the contrary, Twitter helps broaden the spectrum of information that’s available.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
How does this improve upon a blog/forum medium, for instance? I really just don’t see how limiting characters is a positive thing and does anything but limit conversation rather than facilitate it.
It’s easier, immediate information being relayed. It doesn’t replace a blog/forum or any medium, but it does help promote and facilitate those mediums and launches more in-depth discussion, kind of like we are now.
How many radio shows have you heard that refer to just one tweet? I’ve heard a lot.
Again, not worth arguing if you don’t want to even see for yourself. To each his own.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Just seems like one of those technology fads to me where it doesn’t actually add any value, it’s sole attraction is other people using it. My own observation is the blogging/forum medium offers everything Twitter does and more. People just choose to use them differently for some reason. I think this (SBNation) is a much better forum for discussing anything than Twitter, and things like RSS feeds or any apps someone wants to develop for it (which they would if it was popular enough) make it just as functional….people just choose Twitter…. because…..well……obviously I don’t have an answer for that. They just do. As I’ve said, my own personal opinion and why I don’t like Twitter is mostly because of the character limit, which makes it useless to me, but apparently that’s just me.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Sir, I respect your opinion and the choices you make in life.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe I’m just too old for it. ;)
I wouldn’t know. “Missing Barry” could mean Barry Bonds, right?
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
"Missing Barry" could mean Barry Bonds
It does.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
people just choose Twitter…. because…..well……obviously I don’t have an answer for that. They just do.
Come on… we all know why people are fascinated by Twitter, Facebook, MySpace and the like – we just don’t want to offend anybody or start an endless argument about people and their insatiable need for acceptance and ego expression.
But yeah – they are all stupid – IMO.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
people and their insatiable need for acceptance and ego expression.
By that token, I can make the argument that your posts on GSoM are exactly the same as anyone posting anything via Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, etc.
Every word that is spoken or written is a reflection of everyone’s insecurity and their need to make themselves feel special.
Or not.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
no...
a discussion about sports is entire different – people around here disagree all the time. When was the last time you said something negative on a post your friend made on Facebook – it doesn’t happen b/c you don’t want them to de-friend you. Most Facebook chatter is self affirming nonsense – not discussion.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
Check out last week’s “Over the Hedge”. They parodied the whole Twitter thing.
I blinked…
I blinked again…
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
How can you say anything interesting/worthwhile in that few words?
They are not interested in the quality just the freshness of the tweets., and the people looking for them don’t care if they are well thought out or not because they are old news in 5 minutes, so it don’t matter to either party.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Final Play
Beautifully executed to get Curry that perfect look. It was exactly what Nelson wanted.
But, say Curry’s shot went down. All that does is give Kobe 4-5 seconds to hit ANOTHER game winner. It was the perfect play against any other team.
Still can’t believe Curry missed.
by WheresMyChippy on Mar 16, 2010 10:25 AM PDT reply actions
But, say Curry’s shot went down. All that does is give Kobe 4-5 seconds to hit ANOTHER game winner.
Or the more likely scenario….he misses the game winner (or turns it over like he did at the end of the 3rd quarter).
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Still can’t believe Curry missed.
Maybe Curry-bury actually cares about the long term good of this team and thought about the lotto balls? I hear he’s a smart kid.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Lets give hunter a hand ! Curry just gets better every game. Monta showed his heart and flexibility.
Toliver delivered again. Amazing what this 30% healthy team is doing.
by Only In Fairfax on Mar 16, 2010 10:33 AM PDT reply actions
There are always
going to be more calls going the Lakers way, but I was at home watching this game by myself, and still stood up a few times to scream at the refs. How many times did Maggette get hammered under the rim without going to the line?
Also, did anyone else think that Steph was pissed at the end because he was wide open for another 3 when Monta got that last rebound and took a circus shot? (Yeah he almost made it, but almost doesn’t count.)
Curry/Monta/Turner/Morrow/Buike/Maggs/AR/Wright/Goose/Turiaf= Wins
Tough matchup for Maggette – Ron Ron and Odom have the size, strength and athleticism to contain him.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention Gasol and Bynum
Lakers are ridiculously hard to go inside on if you’re undersized.
Also, did anyone else think that Steph was pissed at the end because he was wide open for another 3 when Monta got that last rebound and took a circus shot? (Yeah he almost made it, but almost doesn’t count.)
He wasn’t wide open and I would think he was pissed that the shot didn’t go in and they lost.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
was thinking the same...
But after I saw the replays, Curry faded back after he shot it and was almost out of bounds…and Fisher was still in the vicinity. I don’t know if Monta had enough time to really think about kicking it back out to Curry, but even if he did, Curry was not in position to take another good shot.
yeah, i think it was disappointment.
He wasn’t wide openinitially he was (when Monta caught the ball in the air & looked at him midair), but he was out of bounds.
by homer simpson on Mar 16, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
initially he was (when Monta caught the ball in the air & looked at him midair), but he was out of bounds.
Yeah, but if he was out of bounds, he wasn’t open. Monta should have passed it to Morrow but I still can’t fault him for A) getting the O rebound and B) almost tying the game.
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
guess i should have clarified that since Steph was out of bounds, Monta recognized that & managed not to throw the pass (ends up looking like a fake kick out on replay). he then (understandably) panics some and dribble straight to the 3 pt line & takes a turnaround 3 when there was still over a second left. i’m certainly not going to fault monta for not having the vision to see Morrow to his right (think he takes a look to his left at Curry, but by then Fisher is there). i’m sure that if he did, he would have thrown it to Morrow. he just happened to not look to his right.
by homer simpson on Mar 16, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
If I was Curry Id be more pissed that I just missed a wide open 3.
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 16, 2010 11:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If I was Curry Id be more pissed that I just missed a wide open 3.
Yep
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
by Doctor Kajita on Mar 16, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
No Offense but....
Before I begin, has there ever been a recap written like this? If not, remember where you saw this first!
Please make it the last recap done this way!
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
Huge props to Monta in this one. His reputation as nothing but a scorer is being diminished.
Monta is now showing he is a winner. He didn’t have his offensive game going, and even though he still threw up a ton of shots, he ended with 11 assists and he also forced Kobe into a season high 9 turnovers. In fact I would say overall, Monta was responsible for causing 18 of the 24 turnovers.
Another thing Monta did that impressed me was show how CLUTCH he is. He has a horrible offensive game going, but with less than a minute left he makes a crucial layup, puts the hammer on Kobe defensively, comes up with a steal and hits a transition 3 with 13 seconds left. Then he almost hits what would’ve been the craziest outside shot we’ve seen this year. All his force and energy going completely away from the basket, he almost puts it in.
Props Monta, you and Steph definitely get co warrior wonders for this one.
I agree...
with all the problems I usually have with Monta’s game – it was nice to see him d-up, assist and not turn the ball over.
However, one should note that when you play defense it usually detracts from your offense. It’s hard to have enough energy to do both at a high level and sustain it for the entire game.
John 8:44 -Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
Especially when you are guarding Kobe...
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Mar 16, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
i dunno
So Monta thieved Kobe a bunch of times. Kobe still got 29 points on 50% shooting. Monta is a very aggressive defender, sometimes it pays big, sometimes it doesn’t. Was nice getting Kobe all rilled up though. :D
I liked more that Monta was distributing the ball well and had only one TO when his offensive game was basically non-existent.
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 16, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
This game shows why Monta and Curry can work together & why Hunter should be resigned
There defense from both of them was great. Monta really got under Kobe’s skinned and played him as well as any one could. Truth is your not going to stop Kobe from getting his numbers, it’s how you play him, get under his skin and he forced 9 turnovers. 9! Even the ESPN commentators said that Steph and Monta are a great fit for each other and compliment each other very well. One is a slasher the other his a shooter. I’d bet the farm that if Monta even shoots 35% we win this game, he had one of the coldest nights I can ever remember him having. And he wasn’t forcing it, most of his shots were pretty open, he was just missing badly. But he played very clutch, a couple of clutch steals, the 3 and that rebound in the end and I swear I thought it was going in.
Also I give huge props to Chris Hunter, against what some call the best frontline in the NBA he had a huge game. I’ve thought about it but now I’m officially on the resign Hunter bandwagon. The way he has played against teams like LAL and ATL shows me something. Also he’s not a bad spot starter if needed. I think next year he may be as good as Ronny, he’s got a slightly better offensive game, he’s a better rebounder when given the minutes, and is a decent defender and a big body.
I remember some after the Toronto game said this stretch against playoff teams will put the Curry/Ellis backcourt to the test and will be a real challenge, so far there passing the test
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
+1
Although what the ESPN announcers say means absolutely nothing. Also Chris Hunter should not be resigned unless Randolph and Wright were going to be out another season. Chris Hunter is at best a number 3 center but non-the-less he has played well as of late. But as for Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry, i agree completely with you. I believe they can be one of the best back courts in the NBA. They do work well together, despite what the peanut gallery has been saying.
It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...
dubz – It’s one game, settle down. And of course the players “get up” for a nationally televised game. How annoying is that, that they only bring it hard only when they are trying to look good for the nation. Meanwhile, resume losing to doormats.
That midget backcourt hasn’t worked and won’t work, I don’t know what yall are smoking. HELLO?? we are the 3rd worst team in the league.
by RowellMustGo on Mar 16, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Were not the 3rd worst team cause of our back court
We are do to our lack of a 4 due AR and BW being injured, half the year without centers, bad coaching and being really young. Our back court is our only bright spot
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
Plus we’re not actually the third worst team anyways. We have a better pythag record than 8 teams, we’ve just been a bit unlucky, and as long as we’re doing poorly, we might as well be unlucky and get more lotto balls!
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Were not the 3rd worst team cause of our back court
yeah, we are. If they had spent the time, money, and effort on getting a good frontcourt instead of our small backcourt we’d be better.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Really? How much should we really value Rony T.
Seems to me that he has pretty good trade value and Hunter gives us more offense ,then Rony will ever give us. Rony is good for energy and blocking shots but he is below avg. at both scoring and rebounding. I say we use Rony as a trading chip and we keep Hunter. Also Hunter seems to have more size and is very cap friendly.
8th alias and on probation
I promise to be kinder and gentler
by StinkyFingers on Mar 16, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
The article was a thumbs down for me.
1) Steph & Monta can’t coexist, sorry
2) There are noy big men in the draft who are “can’t-miss,” so….trade the pick if Turner isn’t avail. How much fkn longer do yall want to wait to see a winning team? We need a post presence or better players…ala David West, AL JEff, Iggy, etc….. Patience of nuns I swear.
David West, AL JEff, Iggy
… whose teams are a combined 70-132 this season. How much fkn longer do their fans have to wait to see a winning team?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
We need a post presenceorand better players
Unfortunately, the players you named were either post players (West, Jefferson) OR better players Igoudala. We need a guy who fits both criteria.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, am i going to be the only one to say it….. our fans were terrible last night….it was a lakers home game, and we were barely cheered even though we almost pulled off an upset of the Lakers if Monta didn’t have such a terrible game.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
we were barely cheered even though we almost pulled off an upset
probably cause the fans are smart enough to follow the lotto standings?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
probably because the fans
don’t wanna go to games as long as Cohan is owner…like me…
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Mar 16, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Monta Ellis blowing by Kobe proves that he has one of the most, if not the most, explosive right-handed attacks in the league. That being said, I don’t know how you can trade him.
Wrong…..Monta had a terrible game…. i don’t see how he won any of you over with a 5-23 from the field performance.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
So having your guy score 32 on you is great defense?
Nothing he did positively was enough to negate his terrible shooting and defense.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
so your going to neglect his passing game?
Don’t be narrow minded. He’s not the best defender on the earth but he did force Kobe into 9 turnovers and definitely got under his skin.
Not many “undersized” shooting guards can say that they’ve done that….
by Richboievans on Mar 16, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not being narrow minded. If you shoot 5-23 from the field, and the man you are guarding shoots a high percentage and scores 32, you did not have a good game.
The 11 assists are nice, but he was really bad besides that.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
Kobe only scored 28 on him
I’m pretty sure no one expected Monta to shut down Kobe but no expected him to work that hard on defense either. He was obviously at a disadvantage but he tried his hardest to do the intangibles.
by Richboievans on Mar 16, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Correction
I’m not being narrow minded. If you shoot 5-23 from the field, and the man you are guarding shoots a high percentage and scores3228, you did not have a good game.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
also how many points do you think the warriors got off of those 9 turnovers by Kobe?
At least 10, probly more, which diminishes Kobe’s 28 to a mere 18 or 15. If you hold Kobe to that, thats pretty damn good defense.
I’m not being narrow minded. If you shoot 5-23 from the field, and the man you are guarding shoots a high percentageand scores 32 28, you did not have a good game.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
Out of all honesty
I agree with your statements about Monta’s ability to inefficient and ineffective at times, but give him some credit at least when it’s due.
by Richboievans on Mar 16, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
At least give credit for the 9 turnovers. That is very productive.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
i agree somewhat, but he still played a terrible game….. i would of liked him to just stop taking fadeaway mid range jumpers…..
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
He had a bad shooting game
Other than that he played great. Subtract the shooting and he played very very well. His defense, passing, effort, and how well he protected the ball. Shooting is only part of the game. What he did outside of that more than made up for it
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
Dubz,
shooting is very important, and when you shoot 5-23, you are such a negative offensively its hard to make up for it.
I will admit, i didn’t see his passing numbers, or the ammount of To’s kobe had, but i still think he had a bad game…
was it as terrible as i thought at first? no, but it wasn’t a good game by any stretch of the imagination.
If we gave 15 of his shots to the rest of the roster, we win this game is my point, even though it is nice to see him take strides in other aspects when his shot isn’t falling.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
We can also keep in mind that kind of gambling defense won’t normally create all the turnovers he did. Normally, most of those end up going for easy buckets instead. Relying on creating turnovers instead of staying in front of your man, keeping him away from the rim and contesting his jumpshots is not a sustainable strategy for good defensive play.
by Missing Barry on Mar 17, 2010 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions
His passing game was also pretty great
11 assists on 1 Turnover….. That statline kinda speaks for itself.
by Richboievans on Mar 16, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew someone would say this
He played fantastic defense on him, no one will stop the 2nd best player on earth from getting his numbers but it’s how Monta played him, he got under his skin, force 9 turnovers and made him work for everything he got. Also Monta had 11 assists to 1 turnover. And he was very clutch last night as well. If he shoots even 30% we win this game. He played very well but your just pointing out FG% and the box score. The box score says 29 points for Kobe so that must mean he played awesome right? Wrong
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
no one will stop the 2nd best player on earth from getting his numbers
Maybe true, but Wade wasn’t playing last night. Much easier to stop the 10-15th or so best player from getting his numbers. :)
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
i got a problem at school with people telling me Kobe is the best of ALL time if not best right now….i can’t think of any argument that will get the non logical fans to listen…. i tried the efficiency, and all around game argument but i can’t get em to shut it!
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
I can’t think of any argument that will get the non logical fans to listen…
show then Kobe’s rings and MVP awards ? then tell them they are all illusions??
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
On a side note..
Pacers beat the Bobcats today, our 3rd pick is looking better :)
The race for #3...
GSW 18-48 —
WAS 21-44 +3.5 (currently up 6 on the Nuggs at the half, but don’t expect it to last…)
IND 22-45 +3.5
DET 23-45 +4
SAC 23-44 +4.5
PHI 23-44 +4.5
NYK 24-43 +5.5
LAC 25-43 +6
16 games to go. We definitely have the inside track, but if that l’il bastard Curry keeps hitting 60% of his threes and dishing 10 dimes for every turnover, we could start upsliding fast…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 16, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
but if that l’il bastard Curry keeps hitting 60% of his threes and dishing 10 dimes for every turnover, we could start upsliding fast…
and nellie has a vested interest in short term wins over long term good so it’s gonna be a real test of Curry-bury’s intelligence and loyalty to his drafting franchise to do the right thing. Now is when we’ll find out if he really wants to be a warrior or a NYK?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 16, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at the game...
and I’ll never forget it.
Kobe is annoying
Kobe is freaking annoying, my son thinks so too

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