RECAP #67: Golden State Warriors 131, New Orleans Hornets 121 - "D-League Destruction"
(Little-used Sean Marks wonders if he was on the Warriors if would be star just like Anthony Tolliver)
...as Bob Fitzgerald mentioned towards the end of this 4th quarter.
Down 21 points at one point during the fourth third quarter, would you expect the final stats for the Warriors to look like this:
Anthony Tolliver: 30 points, 6 boards, 3 assists, 4 steals
Reggie Williams: 20 points (8-11 shooting), 4 boards, 4 assists, 2 steals, and 4 3-pointers
Chris Hunter: 17 points (7-9 shooting), 8 boards, 2 assists, 2 steals
Would you ever in your mind think that a squad of former d-leaguers and undrafted players, teamed with perennial role players like Devean George, could help lead a balanced and not to forget comeback attack against a semi-mediocre team with mostly 1st round draft talent? Anthony Tolliver had his Lebron James-like moments swooping to the hoop powerfully, which my girlfriend said "wow, that looks fun!" Reggie Williams shot like a 3-point shootout contender. And Devean George came off the bench for some instant offense, Corey Maggette-style.
If this wasn't wacky enough, Monta Ellis had 13 assist. The dude who has at times been dubbed selfish by myself and many others, had a 4:1 assist to turnover ratio tonight. Now THAT is Steve Nash-like! And you know me, I would never put Monta Ellis and Steve Nash in the same sentence, unless I wanted to say what I wish Monta Ellis could be more like.
Was this truly the wackiest Warriors game you've ever witnessed?
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(Tolliver did not disappoint in the boxscore and with his 'look of shock(s)')
The Warriors began their typical mid-game self-destruction by letting the New Orleans Hornets get way too many second chance points. Little-to-no boxouts and the same amount of non-existent closeouts on three-point shooters hurt them badly. They were just getting outhustled and muscled down low and it looked as if the Warriors were just ready to celebrate St. Patrick's Day after the game with the way they were playing. On the offensive end in the beginning of the third quarter, Maggette, Ellis, and CJ Watson seemed to be competing to see who could shoot the ball with as much time left on the clock. Maggette wins every time.
Then Devean George checked into the game, igniting a comeback that Whitney Houston could only dream of...or only Michael Jackson could materialize (RIP).
Maybe it was Devean George's mere presence. Perhaps it was his "veteran-cool" that calmed down this inexperienced team. Or maybe the Warriors just started playing some good defense which led to some easy buckets? Yes, most likely the latter.
At any rate, the Warriors d-leaguers put on quite a show and seemed like real NBA players versus what I like to call "irregular clothes" which you would see at factory outlet stores. They look hot at first glance (great stats). But once you take them home, you realize that the pants you bought only have one pocket in the back. Plus the zipper is missing so technically can zip them up either (can't convert easy lay-ups).
(If Anthony Tolliver wore these pair of these fake Sponge Bob Nike Dub-zeros, would you still rock em? OF COURSE BECAUSE THEY HOT!)
All of a sudden Chris Hunter transformed into what Atma Brother #1 believes to be the Warriors version of Patrick Ewing. He owned the paint on both ends of the floor manufacturing points of tip-ins. He cleared space on defense AND offense, not just grabbing boards but scoring off a few nifty spins moves. In one sequence during the fourth quarter, Hunter got his own rebound after getting blocked and went straight back up for two points. Granted, Hunter was mostly matched up against Darius Songaila, who's hardly the shotblocker or defensive presence that is Emeka Okafor. We haven't seen a Warrior defend the paint like this since Marc Jackson, who we owe much for the GSoM philosophy.
Reggie Williams might have had the prettiest jump shot on a Warriors team since Chris Mullin. And unlike Anthony Morrow, Williams can hit jumpers with people in his face (no-disrespect to Morrow of course). I kind of wish the Warriors would continue to feed him the ball like the Hornets did Morris Peterson. He helped spark the second half comeback with several consecutive 3 point shots. Would you keep Reggie Williams after this amazing display of 3-point shooting? Especially on a team that, aside from Curry, cannot really make open jumpers with much consistency?
But besides their great scoring capabilities, the chemistry between the d-leaguers - Williams, Tolliver, and Hunter - was amazing. They were willing to make the open pass to find each other, often times cutting through the lanes for easy buckets. On several occasions, you could see Anthony Tolliver coming down the lane and dishing to Hunter at the block for an easy lay-in. Or once Hunter got hot in the second half, Ellis would make a post-entry pass to Hunter who would then see an open man cutting or a wide open for a three. The ball suddenly flowed much better in the second half and these d-leaguers led the way with their hustle, unselfishness, and clutch plays on both ends of the floor.
(Monta Ellis and Anthony Tolliver are about to take this celebration to an Irish pub!)
I won't say too much about Ellis not because I didn't find him to be great, but mostly because I thought it was exceptional how the d-leaguers really stepped it up. But Ellis' defense definitely needs to be accounted for as he played some great defense against Darren Collison at some points, coming up with some big time stops.
This wasn't an exceptional win by any means. The Hornets were without Chris Paul and Peja Stojakovic. Darren Collison had another Steve-Nash-like offensive game and David West had unstoppable fundamentals, fadeaways, putbacks, kissing shots off the glass... he really could do it all. But, it was still an impressive victory nonetheless for these d-leaguers fighting to find a spot in this league. Based off their performance tonight, there are plenty of reasons why they could be.
(The Warriors new 'big 3' laugh at how they were able to pull this off)
This is tough so I am just going to give it to the trio of d-leaguers: Anthony Tolliver, Chris Hunter, and Reggie Williams. Together, they accounted for 67 of the Warriors points, 18 rebounds, and 8 steals. Can we call them the Warriors new "Big 3"? Or at least they could be the "big 3" of the Warriors upcoming summer league?
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Tolliver was killin em at the beggining
single handedly outscoring hornets 14 to 12
gotta give props to Devean George too
+26 spread and a dunk!
Wow
Couple of things, I still think Hunter should be resigned. Ronny and Andris’ injury past isn’t really very good and keeping him would be very smart. Reggie should come back as well if we lose CJ, Tolliver should be offered to come to training camp and maybe offered a spot as a 3rd PF.
George when he first got here was a joke. “Why would we trade Marco for this washed up guy?”. Give credit when credit is due, the last couple games he’s been great, good defense, good shooting and a good vet. I say cut Vlad to keep Reggie. Face it his 6 mil next year isn’t going towards anything.
Monta played very well. Good passing, good defense, good offense, some clutch plays. But I think the minutes are getting to him, you can see it in his jumper. His minutes should be around 35 for now on.
Overall I can’t complain about anything this game. Great overall game. 5 more Nellie!
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Face it his 6 mil next year isn’t going towards anything.
Seriously, the Warriors need to just lose him. He’s wasted space. Once you spend money, it’s money spent. Can’t think of it anymore. Move on. We should just lose him and sign the better player, Williams.
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by LostHawkGSW on Mar 17, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally.....Cut Radman
When you’re playing with something to prove, that’s the motivation to give it all you can.
I like Radman, but I think going forward Williams is the better player to keep.
by ryogahibiki on Mar 18, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I’ve been thinking about this, too. That said, we have a couple of people expiring after this season. We’’ll have room for Reggie Williams on our roster for next season. This year, we can try out a couple more D-leaguers, if we need to. I like Reggie and definitely think we should sign him, though. If some other team signs him to a one year deal, we can do a sing and trade with CJ for him, perhaps or something to that effect.
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Not to sure why a team would trade CJ for Reggie
I’d rather have Reggie, more size, better passer and I love CJ and if we can’t have Reggie I want CJ but I prefer Reggie. I don’t want to risk a team snatching him cause some team will want a cheap young efficient scorer
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Depends on the team. If the team needs a good backup PG, CJ would be a great fit. Granted, there is a risk, but I don’t want to throw away a 6 mil. expiring. It’s good to keep options open. Besides, Vlad could come in handy. We may only sign either Hunter, Toliver or perhaps neither. We may need a big man with a jump shot. When Vlad was healthy, he was helpful. I think we can potentially keep Vlad and his expiring and maybe trade him or maybe not. We can probably also get Reggie.
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Hunter/Tolliver > Vlad
Vlad’s shot is leaving him and is not very useful other than him being an expiring deal. If we get Tolliver we have a big who can shoot 3’s better than him, Hunter should be cheap to retain and we could use his size. Seeing what we did with Speedy my confidence with us using an big expiring with a player who won’t play is slim to none. Also had rather have AR shooting mid range jumpers than Vlad shooting 3’s
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I think we need as many bigs as we can get. We need to keep Hunter, Tolliver, and Vlad. It would be silly to just cut the guy. It’s only one roster spot, and if a good trade does materialize, his 6 million could easily be a difference maker for a team looking to shed payroll or take on a Maggette without absorbing all the cost.
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We have to lose one to keep Reggie
I bet a team will pick him up if we drop him now to keep Vlad
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We might have to lose one now, but that doesn’t mean we can’t acquire all of them in the offseason. Counting all 3 of them and our first round pick, we have 14 guys (including Vlad) under contract for next season out of 15 spots.
by Missing Barry on Mar 18, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
You don't think a playoff team looking for some scoring wouldn't grab Reggie?
Seems like a cheap pickup who can really help out
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Agreed, cut the Vlad Man
Moore and Vlad have been our least productive players this season. Time to trim off the fat.
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
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by Badly Browned on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
This is what i like to see.
David west and Monta eElis, who are both on my fantasy team having great games (more so west) and hearing a warrior win on the radio at work. Good times.
Zion I FTW
Sorry just had to do that, I love Zion I
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dj fuzzylogic response
“If this wasn’t wacky enough, Monta Ellis had 13 assist. The dude who has at times been dubbed selfish by myself and many others, had a 4:1 assist to turnover ratio tonight.”
Monta is top 20 in assists. If his teammates actually put the ball in the hoop once in a while like today, he would easily be top 10 in assists.
by illmaticwarrior on Mar 17, 2010 11:49 PM PDT reply actions
illmaticwarrior response
The Warriors are the second-highest scoring team in the league. Monta’s teammates do “actually put the ball in the hoop once in a while.”
Further, Monta is not “top 20 in assists.” He’s #24.
Further, per game numbers are misleading when you plays significantly more minutes (41.5) than your competitors. On a per minute basis, Monta is #43 in assists. If you adjust for pace, lower than that.
By assist:turnover ratio — the number DJFL’s comment is referring to — he’s #77.
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by Sleepy Freud on Mar 18, 2010 5:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Monta is not a great passer, but I have started to see some evolution in his game recently. He is anticipating where his teammates are going to rotate on his drives, which makes the drive and dish a lot more deadly than just charging into the lane and attempting to find a stationary shooter. His technical passing skills leave something to be desired, but this continued development is a welcome sign. With one more ball handler, this team could actually develop some decent flow.
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I’ve always thought Monta actually anticipates well. He has a better feel for basketball than people give him credit for, and I’ve never really agreed with people that call him “low basketball IQ” – guys without basketball IQ don’t anticipate the way he does.
by Missing Barry on Mar 18, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yet another
great comeback win. As someone said earlier, Tolliver was just tearing it up in the first quarter. Monta turned up the scoring in the second half, and Williams just finished it off with those threes.
The seats were sweet!! Thanks GSOM! Sad I didn’t get to see Curry player with such dope seats but our guys stepped up and finished the game strong. Crowd started getting loud by the end of the third. We were cheering throughout the entire fourth.
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Considering Monta’s minutes and that the Dubs are one of highest scoring teams in the league, you can’t honestly believe that Monta is a good passer. Tonight he was, but as fuzzy pointed out, it’s a wacky thing. If he keeps it up along with few TO’s, I’ll be very happy, though. It’ll make it a little hard to decide whether to trade Monta or Curry in that case.
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He's not a bad passer though
Not top 10 but is a good one. He can find players very well if they move without the ball which is limited due to how many iso sets we run. For a 2 I think he’s a good passer especially for a pure scorer but is not good enough to be considered a great passer
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It’s not an efficient use of talent to have a lot of redundancy on your team, and it causes teammates to compete with each other. In other words, if we have two excellent point guards, we ought to trade one to get stronger at another position or at least get deeper.
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(Little-used Sean Marks wonders if he was on the Warriors if would be star just like Anthony Tolliver)
Sean Marks is out w/ an injury. That’s Aaron Gray.
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The caption to the pic is wrong...
That is definitely not Sean Marks, it kinda looks like Aaron (I even make slow white guys look fast) Gray, but I could be wrong.
At the game
It seemed like it was easy to tell when they were going to hit a big shot. I was going to leave in the beginning of the fourth but my girl got me to stay. I ended up getting my whole section to stand many times to show our support. They really came through and I had a great time!! Made the jumbotron a few times and that’s always good too….
Curry/Monta/Turner/Morrow/Buike/Maggs/AR/Wright/Goose/Turiaf= Wins
didn't we start to make our comeback at the end of the 3rd????
what kind of fan are you??
by Richboievans on Mar 18, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe....
I was drinking a lot of Jamesons and BT’s in the parking lot…..the drive back to Monterey was interesting. Anyhoo I stayed until after the game was over to hear the post interviews, and I lost my voice. That’s what kinda fan I am.
Curry/Monta/Turner/Morrow/Buike/Maggs/AR/Wright/Goose/Turiaf= Wins
That was...
Montazing. With a D-League twist…
It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...
The whole game I was like watch them shoot there way out of this one
But I was wrong! Isn’t this the reason why we loved the We Believe season? All the come backs? Man… it was great watching this game. It kept me awake while studying for mid terms.
only thing more amazing than the dubs
CP3’s suit! look at that pic!!! woah!
Monta wasn't Steve Nash like
More like Tony Parker like and guys were actually finishing his dish outs…
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
Oh, I guess you were referring to the high AST:TO ratio. Maybe, but I was talking more about their style of playing point.
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 18, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
That was an ugly start and a fun finish
The absence of Curry left a void in the point guard/play setup department, and it showed during the 1st half. I think that and the emotional void leftover from the Lakers game produced a half that no one wants to remember.
I’m not surprised that Morrow got benched for so long in this game. When he started, he could get absolutely nothing against the Hornets defense. Looks like the Hornets learned their lesson from the last game. They were physical and in his face, and Morrow looked totally useless out there. He only had 1 shot attempt in that 1st qtr, a Maggette kickout, which Morrow missed. Morrow really misses getting set up by Curry.
Other than that, it was fun to see the Warriors get hot, especially unexpected guys like Uncle George, Anthony Tolliver, and Reggie Williams bombing the 3s. You live by the 3, you die by the 3, and tonight we lived by it. And the Hornets had NO IDEA what hit them.
IQ!!!!!
Where were you?! :)
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 18, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Sleeeeeeping!
I fell asleep and missed the game live. :(
by IQofaWarrior on Mar 18, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha
I was about to do the same, good thing I stuck around for the 4th Qtr
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 18, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
The 'New Big 3'
I love it. The scorer, the do it all guy, and the enforcer. Thats our new trio we need to build around.
Thing B
by warriorsscore110 on Mar 18, 2010 12:17 PM PDT reply actions

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