Asking GSoM: Can the Golden State Warriors end their 23 game losing streak in San Antonio against the Spurs? + Anthony Tolliver + GSDL + Raja Bell + Monta Ellis/ Stephen Curry co-existing
by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 18, 2010 8:14 PM PDT
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In preparation for the Warriors upcoming trip to San Antonio aka the house of horrors where they've lost a remarkable 23 (TWENTY-THREE!) straight, our friends over at San Antonio Spurs blog Project Spurs wanted the 411 on the Dubs.
The kind of defense that causes 23 straight losses down by the river walk.
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JUMP for their Q's and make sure to post your answers for #1 through #6 in the comments section
Our friends at Project Spurs are asking GSoM...
1. The Spurs have not lost at home to Golden State since 1997. What will the Warriors have to do to make sure the streak doesn't get to 24 straight games?
2. What are your thoughts on former Spur and Project Spurs favorite Anthony Tolliver?
3. The Warriors seem to always find gems in the D-League. Is that because of good scouting or pure luck?
4. Are Raja Bell's days numbered being a defensive specialist in Golen St? Yes I said Golen.
5. Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry seem to be very similar players, except Ellis is more athletic. How have they co-existed?
6. What is your key matchup for this game and what's your prediction?
My 20 cents:
1. First things first and I hate to be harsh, but there's one thing in common between the Warriors and Spurs. Their window has closed.
Okay the Warriors "window" was never really open aside from a hot minute in the spring of 2007, but neither of these teams are even in the running for the O'Brien trophy.
But back to your question. What can the Warriors do to stop 24 straight L's in San Antonio?
Hmmmm.
Is Michael Jordan in the D-League? CALL HIM UP!
2. I don't believe there's a Dubs fan out there who isn't rooting for Tolliver. I love his hustle, energy, desire, and demeanor. Tolliver belongs in the NBA and hopefully there's a spot for him next season on the Dubs.
Monta and Ant bust out a little Rumpshaker a la Wreckxx-N-Effect.
3. I don't think it's luck. Larry Riley (a former scout) and the Dubs work hard at mining the D-League for hot prospects. It also helps to have a coach like Don Nelson that is very open to giving D-Leaguers a shot. I remember a year or two ago Nellie said something along the lines of a D-League call-up being more often a mid-1st round or 2nd round draft pick in terms of present-day production.
Also, I really want to give it up to the D-League. Don't sleep. The D-League is legit! Across the vast majority of the 30 teams in the association the difference between their 10th, 11th, and 12th men and the top D-League talents isn't all that substantial.
Think I'm being ridiculous? You ain't seen nothing yet. It doesn't get any more ridiculously wonderful than Ridiculous Upside. They should really change their slogan from just "NBA D-League Coverage" to "NBA D-League/ Coverage of Future Golden State Warriors"
4. I wasn't sure what "Golen" was, so I looked it up. Here's the Wikipedia entry for "Goleń":
Goleń [ˈgɔlɛɲ] is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Piecki, within Mrągowo County,Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship, in northern Poland.[1] It lies approximately 5 kilometres (3 mi) south-west of Piecki, 15 km (9 mi) south of Mrągowo, and 52 km (32 mi) east of the regional capitalOlsztyn.
Before 1945 the area was part of Germany (East Prussia).
So, I guess no?
5. I used to say this back when the Warriors were wasting the talents and hyper-athletic years of Baron Davis and Jason Richardson by foolishly teaming them up with a hideously unathletic and weak frontcourt of Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, and Adonal Foyle (thank you Chris Mullin):
The Warriors backcourt has problems, but the Warriors frontcourt is the problem.
They have coexisted because there's simply enough shots and possessions to go around for both Curry and Monta in Nellieball. They'll be fine on that side of the rock. Defensively is different, but that's another issue for a different time.
The real concern is the Dubs front court. Centers Andris Biedrins and Ronny Turiaf have both had terrible seasons. Anthony Randolph got off to a very weird and inconsistent start and Brandan Wright has been out the entire season. 4 and 5 are the problem areas for this team. The real question is not whether Curry and Ellis can play together, but whether one of them can be used to upgrade the 4 or 5 significantly in the near future. Until the front court is upgraded or makes big strides, this team is going nowhere.
6. Tim Duncan will get his. Manu Ginobili will get his. But the Spur I'm most worried about going off for a career night and being Friday's night's Warrior Killer is DeJaun Blair.
B-U-L-L-Y.
Interesting low post D technique though.
Prediction? Warriors by 1 and longtime GSoMers know what that means.
Make sure to check out Project Spurs and Pounding the Rock for everything you ever wanted to know about the Spurs and more.
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1. The Spurs have not lost at home to Golden State since 1997. What will the Warriors have to do to make sure the streak doesn’t get to 24 straight games? Monta goes for 40 and Steph gets a triple double. Right now we got no shot
2. What are your thoughts on former Spur and Project Spurs favorite Anthony Tolliver?
Love him
3. The Warriors seem to always find gems in the D-League. Is that because of good scouting or pure luck?
4. Are Raja Bell’s days numbered being a defensive specialist in Golen St? Yes I said Golen.
Probably, expiring contract
5. Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry seem to be very similar players, except Ellis is more athletic. How have they co-existed? They can co exist and are the most productie back court in the NBA as of now. The last couple of game Monta has moved to playing off the ball more and we have of played better cause of it
6. What is your key matchup for this game and what’s your prediction? Hunter on Duncan, if Hunter plays well on him it helps us that much more
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
miracles do happen
just look at our game against Boston ;)
by Richboievans on Mar 18, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be a miracle if we win.
haha, A disaster would be a better word. Doesn’t anyone care about our record, the time of the season it is, and what’s at stake? They really should require a test to be a fan.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 18, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm conflicted...
I want to win, but I also want a high draft pick. I don’t want us to catch the teams that have 21-22 wins like Washington and Indiana.
I know…I could route for GS to win and Washington and Indiana to win as well. Hopefully it works out..
Hopefully it works out..
Hope is for losers, we need well executed tanking
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
depends on Nellie
Maggette is the tank commander, and notice the lack of tank commanding that led to a win against the hornets.
If Nellie leaves Maggs out there then we know we are in for a tank game.
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 19, 2010 11:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We need….Keith Smart!
"Richmond, VA. For when West Virginia is too classy"
by Missing Barry on Mar 19, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
…and Mikki Moore…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 19, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
They’re a package deal anyways.
"Richmond, VA. For when West Virginia is too classy"
by Missing Barry on Mar 19, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to win, but I also want a high draft pick.
I don’t really see the conflict here. Turner or Wall almost certainly give you a better chance of winning than Motiejunas. Root accordingly.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 19, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Golen State
More like “Goal-in” state
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM PDT reply actions
Neither shall play well, while the other lights out
Ok, I am just making fun of harry potter terminology right there, but on real talk, Ellis plays well when Curry is not playing, Curry plays well when Ellis is not there. That we all seen, them playing together, we seen Curry struggle. With the exception of the Toronto game, I don’t think Curry and Ellis can coexist. A GSW sales representative called me today, I told him I will wait and see before I buy any tickets for next year. As Atma said, we need to solve the 4-5 positions, why have Ellis if we can solve a huge problem. I will wait and see, hopefully Ellis gets traded and we get a true legit PF/C that can average 20/10.
Waaaarriors
Ellis plays well when Curry is not playing
It was 1 game. Bigger sample size needed
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
you know what your right!!!
Let’s ship off Monta after stepping up in the absence of Curry!!!!!!
Hey let’s make Vlad the cornerstone of the franchise while we’re at and how about AR?
Let’s ship him off with Monta as well!!!!!! Just so you can see Curry blossom into the star he’s projected to be!!!!
by Richboievans on Mar 18, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
on a serious note
Trading Monta alone will definitely not get you a “legit PF/C” that can average 20/10
by Richboievans on Mar 18, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Our backcourt hasn’t been that great offensively. It hasn’t worked on either side of the ball.
I want to keep Curry and trade Monta for a stud.
Lets say, Atlanta loses Johnson in free agency, would you guys do:
Josh Smith for Ellis and Randolph?
I would, just curious what you guys would do.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
I know, we obviously get the best player in the deal, and at a position of need.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
Intriguing idea
I remember Atlanta offered their 1st rounder back in ’07 for Monta, so the interest would be mutual.
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 18, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Nellie wanted to trade Monta for Acie Law, straight up.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
For the past few games
Our backcourt has been pretty decent offensively.
When you refer to the other side of the ball, I can automatically tell your referring to Monta alone.
Our backcourt is fine. Nothing drastically needs to be changed during a season of horror.
Let things play out this offseason.
by Richboievans on Mar 18, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
referring to Monta alone
Monta might be the bigger problem of the two, but let’s not pretend Curry is a great defender.
by Missing Barry on Mar 19, 2010 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but the past few games...
Curry has been guarding opposing point guards like Derek Fisher, Jarret Jack, and Andre Miller who haven’t shown up in those games.
But yet, Monta has been guarding Brandon Roy, Kobe and hot Jose Calderon.
Just by looking at those matchups, I can tell who he’s referring to.
by Richboievans on Mar 19, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m confused. Maybe I misinterpretted your comment?
"Richmond, VA. For when West Virginia is too classy"
by Missing Barry on Mar 19, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that Golen
is Golden without the D. You get it…no defense
Living for a magical 8th seed run
+1
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 18, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet you Blair is licking his chops
He knows what our roster looks like right now.
To answer the D-League Q
There is some scouting involved, absolutely, but I think the main thing is that we give these guys a chance. It’s not that hard to find the best guys in the D-League, but most people call up these players like Tolliver to be the 12th man, and how is Tolliver ever going to get the time or the confidence to play at this level?
We call up players and give them roles immediately – sometimes starters, usually 20+ minutes, and tell them to shoot everything. As a result, they not only get the experience, but they get the confidence.
If I recall correctly, Tolliver stunk it up shooting the first 2 or 3 games – that’s 50, 60, 70 minutes of playing time before he got his shot going. If he’s the 12th man, it takes half a season to get that many minutes, and by that time you’re back in the D-League.
So I think the reality is, there are a bunch of guys in the D-League who are good enough to play in the NBA, they just need to have the confidence and opportunity. Look at players like Austin Croshere, Matt Harpring, Eddie House, etc. – there are 300 college players each year that are more talented than these guys, but can’t buy themselves a spot on an NBA team because they haven’t played 400 games to have that experience.
To me, that’s what it’s about – Tolliver, Watson, Azubuike, etc., even Morrow, an undrafted non-DLeaguer. Just let the guys play, without worrying everytime they shoot, and they’ll show why they made it this far.
by bradyk2 on Mar 18, 2010 10:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
exactly
In addition, I would bet that at the times when we have called guys up, we aren’t a competitive team. I can’t recall exactly when we brought up Bukie or Watson, but all of the guys brought up this year were for a team well out of any type of competitive season and were to fill an injury decimated roster- hence the opportunity to play.
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
With regard to the D-League question, we do have good scouting, but I think our system is also friendly. Nellie isn’t a control freak, so it allows players to relax. I think it was Tollie that was saying that Nellie helped him relax by giving him the green light. What other teams would do that for a d-leaguer? Now that Tollie has his confidence, a lot of teams would be interested in him. We sure as heck better keep him.
Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.
I think it was Tollie that was saying that Nellie helped him relax by giving him the green light?
certainly wasn’t rudolf.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
1-5
1. The Spurs have not lost at home to Golden State since 1997. What will the Warriors have to do to make sure the streak doesn’t get to 24 straight games?
Hit a high % of open threes. Don’t get Hunter and Tolliver into foul trouble. Try and make Tony Parker a jump shooter.
2. What are your thoughts on former Spur and Project Spurs favorite Anthony Tolliver?
He’s Al Harrington 2.0 because he rebounds better, can finish at the rim and he doesn’t think he’s better than he is. The 3pt % is a wash. So why would anyone pay Harrington 37x as much as Tolliver?
3. The Warriors seem to always find gems in the D-League. Is that because of good scouting or pure luck?
We don’t really know what goes on with the scouting, but I heard top assistant coach Keith Smart on the radio yesterday and he said that they take the player from the D-League and tell him that he’s going to play a lot of minutes the first game. The only thing they tell him is to “be decisive”. That’s like a crash course for basketball IQ and poise. Don Nelson, regardless of what you think of his style and enthusiasm, is a master at inventorying a player’s strengths and weaknesses and giving that player unlimited freedom to play to his strengths while restricting his weaknesses. This allows the D-Leaguers to gain confidence while working on their weaknesses. But this is/ was true for players like Pietrus, Barnes, Biedrins and Morrow.
4. Are Raja Bell’s days numbered being a defensive specialist in Golen St? Yes I said Golen.
He has only played a few minutes here. He came in and “surprised the mess out of” Monta Ellis. Some of the players thought he was a coach. As a weird dude, I feel comfortable saying that Raja is an odd egg. I half think he’s being savvy by saying he’d like to play here just in case he doesn’t get an offer with a contender (which I find hard to imagine) and I half think he really wants to be in a situation where young players are going to listen to his advice. I hope he stays. The Warriors do play D, and it’s fun to watch just like the offense. It’s just a harder defensive system to learn so the last couple of years have been rough. Raja Bell is perfect for this system.
5. Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry seem to be very similar players, except Ellis is more athletic. How have they co-existed?
They are not all that similar. Monta is an amazing finisher. Nobody can make the moves to and at the rim that he does. He’s also one of the fastest players in the NBA. That’s no faint praise. Curry is a pure shooter, great passer and a better dribbler than Monta. They both can defend better than they are given credit for and can get you steals. C.J. Watson is like a hybrid of Monta and Curry.
6. What is your key matchup for this game and what’s your prediction?
Duncan versus Hunter or Tolliver.If Duncan can get one of the “bigs” in foul trouble, the Warriors are toast.
I give pressure the reach-around.
by bloodsweatndonuts on Mar 19, 2010 12:06 AM PDT reply actions
Honestly, I don’t really consider what Monta does “moves”. He doesn’t have much of an repetoire of offensive “moves”, per se – it’s hard to have any when you handle the ball like a 4 – he’s just that explosive that he makes the decision to go right and he goes.
by Missing Barry on Mar 19, 2010 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions
hmmm...
i’d agree and disagree. true, monta doesn’t have “moves” that are go to’s for him. but he is a full on finisher at the rim. and he has an iq in finishing situations at the rim. instead of trying to do a “move” he is just reactionary to the defender with no hesitation. that mixed with the explosiveness/quickness/speed.
by dannyschmanny on Mar 19, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I can get on board with that.
"Richmond, VA. For when West Virginia is too classy"
by Missing Barry on Mar 19, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Moves
He has the spin move to get to the basket. He also has the one where he drives and holds the ball with two hands above his head so he can use multiple half ball-fakes.
The moves I was referring to though are the last-second adjustments at the rim and changing foot speed. Those aren’t dribble moves like a crossover but they help allude the defender so he can attempt a shot as close as possible to the iron with the least chance of it being blocked. Which is the ultimate goal of a “move”
I give pressure the reach-around.
by bloodsweatndonuts on Mar 19, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
There's no Parker
He’s been out.
But yeah, Blair will cause problems. Duncan will probably get close to a 20/20.
This is Kristin Kreuk, now zip it. - GTTM
George Hill too
That guy is a beast
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
He won't be a problem for Monta (if Steph isn't playing)
but he can definitely ball.
by Richboievans on Mar 19, 2010 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Re:There's no Parker
So if we can force him to take jumpers form the bench, in street clothes, it’s in the bag!
I give pressure the reach-around.
by bloodsweatndonuts on Mar 19, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Warriors by 1
What does this mean? I’ve been following the blog since late 2008 early 2009 and have yet to find out what exactly that means. Just a bit curious.
As for the game…..we need a miracle. We haven’t won a road game this year in a longggg time let alone in san antonio.
But never the less…Curry’s triple double leads us to victory!!!!!
“Warriors by 1” means “they’ll probably lose, but keep your chin up!”
Of course, if you’re a true optimist, you’re rooting for an exciting, hard-fought loss. I mean, unless you’d rather have Donatas Motiejunas than Wall, Turner, Favors or Cousins…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 19, 2010 5:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait?!
Raja Bell is back?
It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...
No they were just asking about him
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
Re: It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...
Do you work for “Big Tobacco”?
I give pressure the reach-around.
by bloodsweatndonuts on Mar 19, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you work for "Big Tobacco"?
or the firewood industry?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Re: the firewood industry?
New sig line?
Putting the “logger” in “Blogger”.
Booooooooo :(
I give pressure the reach-around.
by bloodsweatndonuts on Mar 19, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Reasons we find productive D-Leaguers – first, the D-League is competitive and has some real talent. There are only ~450 spots in the NBA, think how many good college players come through every year. The difference between the D-League and the end of the bench isn’t that great. Next, we probably look for guys we think fit our “system”, so unlike a guy at the end of the bench (who’s there for a reason), they fit into the team better. Third, we go through a lot of D-leaguers. Simple probability – go through enough, and you’ll find some worthwhile ones. Fourth, and most importantly, everyone can play offense. There are 70+ colleges in the BCS conferences, and they all have to have their primary offensive weapon (usually their best player, or at least perceived best player). These guys all learn to play offense at a fairly high level. What do we ask our players to do? Play offense. So we watch them play offense and think, “Hey, these guys can play a little bit”….meanwhile, we don’t pay attention to their many weaknesses because we’re just used to seeing horrible defense, poor rebounding, etc. On a good team, I think most of our players would be exposed as a problem.
we find productive d-leaguers by picking up the leading scorer, or at least in the top three, i would hardly call that good scouting, we also have a system that supports offense, which is one of the reason a lot of d-leaguers weren’t drafted in the first place, a lack of defense, but we don’t need them for that reason so they strive in our system and look like all-stars, the only d-leaguer i can say at least understands NBA defense is bukie.
We still have Chris Hunter, the main thing is keep them out of foul trouble with our foul prone defensive scheme.
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 19, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Poll Answer: Other
The reason why the Warriors seem to find gems in the D-league is kind of a loaded statement.
First off, we consider them ‘gems’ because the scale of talent is relative to the current lot of players on the roster (and in the previous years). Notable exception being Azuibuke, most of the other guys that we’ve brought up would be 10th man (or less) on other teams’ rosters. Sure, CJ Watson is better than a 10th man, but even he isn’t a legit back-up PG… or maybe he is for a team that has only won 15-20 games.
Second, I don’t have the exact numbers, but as an organization I would wager that the Warriors have been, far and away, the most active in seeking out talent in the D-League. I see this as due to the facts that we can’t seem to keep guys healthy, we do a poor job of bringing in free-agents (healthy, able-bodied, talented ones), and we have historically done a poor job of drafting players that are NBA ready (or at least meet Nellie’s criteria for NBA ready). All of this combines to essentially being a stop-gap organization between the D-league and the NBA… In essence, the Warriors are the most successful D-league team… IN THE NBA! (we did it!, we-are-the-best/ we-are-the-best!!) Percentage wise, we probably are not the most successful team at finding ‘gems’ in the d-league, we just try the most.
Third- we are not a traditional team, and by that I mean we don’t play defense, we don’t necessarily rely on ‘team’ fundamentals and we emphasize running-and-chucking (up shots)… This is pretty self evident when our half court game breaks down to a point where we have a d-leaguer on a one on one Iso- we don’t run any plays, just let Anthony Tolliver (insert D-leaguer here) shake and bake.
In summation, we suck, and I do not take any solace or moral victory in knowing we try to win with d-leaguers.
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
BTW Anyone know ?
How did Stef get injured? I don’t recall any mention of it happening during his last game?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2010 11:11 AM PDT reply actions
Whatever else you might say about him, Steph’s a very, very bright kid. Bright enough, even, to know that Wall, Turner and Cousins are more likely to help his team win next year than Motiejunas. Hmmm…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 19, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Bright enough, even, to know that Wall, Turner and Cousins are more likely to help his team win next year than Motiejunas. Hmmm…
but he wasn’t tripping the Dleaguers as they ran along the sidelines to put in yet more 3 pointers?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
For that we may need to hire Larry David…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 19, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
p.s.
The aftermath, in case you missed the episode…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 19, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
For that we may need to hire Larry David…
Hey, I’ve seen that guy before. I think he has something to do with the entertainment industry?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
mopeds?
Stef strikes me as more of a Vespa guy? mopeds are too trashy?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Watchoo talkin bout boyee mopeds are sweet
There all the rage here in the city. Vespas are cool too. Cant wait for this game. Hopefully Curry plays. Go Monta, Curry, and Warriors!
There all the rage here in the city
I din’t know they have trailer parks in the city?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Question for Gsomers
Are our d-leaguers deserving of the title d-leaguer, when they have shown they are quality NBA players?
Odd, idea, but it may be something to consider. Would you guys shed our big contracts for draft picks and cap relief, and fill the team with cheap d-leaguers and players on rookie contracts, while waiting to find a star?
Tolliver, Hunter, Williams all appear to be quality nba players. Keep ‘em. They don’t make much money. Keep Wright, Randolph, and Turiaf (cheap). Keep Watson, Azubuike, Morrow, Curry. Trade the big 3(if we can) of large contracts, in Monta, Maggette, Biedrins(maybe). Add in one of: Wall, Turner, Cousins, Favors, etc, and maybe another top 10 pick.
PG: Curry, Watson, (possible pick)
SG: Morrow, Williams, (possible pick)
SF: Azubuike, Williams, (possible pick)
PF: Randolph, Wright, Tolliver
C: Hunter, Turiaf, (pick)
Salaries come up around 30-35 million, including 2 or 3 picks.
This team could contend for another top pick, or maybe even overachieve and get us somewhere with their 3 point shooting happy, fast paced style, like they have recently. We just wait for a star to come available, via trade, draft, or free agency (very possible with the cap space) . It’s better than contending around 30 wins for 2 or 3 years with tons of guaranteed salary, that isn’t getting us anywhere.
Odd idea, it just came to me today…
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
Are our d-leaguers deserving of the title d-leaguer, when they have shown they are quality NBA players?
Yes Reggie, there is a very strict and well defined caste system in the NBA , once a Dleaguer always a Dleaguer.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 19, 2010 10:45 PM PDT reply actions
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