Gamethread #69: Golden State Warriors @ Memphis Grizzlies -- A Look at the Trade that Wasn't
Dude's tall.
Warriors (W-L): 19-49
Grizzlies (W-L): 36-33
Tip Off: 5:00 Pacific Time
TV: CSN
Radio: KNBR 680
Blog Buddies: Straight Outta Vancouver
I'm sure Memphis' coaches are talking up the importance of this game to their players. But in reality, Memphis' playoff hopes are already all but extinguished. They are currently 5 1/2 games behind Portland for the eighth playoff spot. I can't see them catching either Portland or San Antonio, can you? Nevertheless, Memphis has been playing hard, winning 7 of their last 11, and we can expect them to have this game circled. The decimated Warriors should have their hands full on the road back to back.
Jump for matchup madness!
All that?
The chief interest in this game for Warriors fans lies in the look it affords us at OJ Mayo and Hasheem Thabeet, the two players that Don Nelson, errr.... Larry Riley, is reported to have turned down in a trade for Monta Ellis. Due to a neck injury to Marc Gasol, Thabeet has been getting minutes recently. And he has looked a lot better than he looked to start the season, averaging 9 points, 9.5 boards and 3 blocks in 28 minutes in his last two games. Nellie will of course try to pull him out of the lane, and run him off the court. A job for Anthony Tolliver, at center.
OJ Mayo is having a decent season, averaging 18 points on 46% shooting. But I'm very curious why so many people think Mayo, at 6-4" and with serious defensive deficiencies, is a better fit to play alongside Stephen Curry than the 6-3" Monta Ellis. I just don't get it. Monta Ellis is a far better defender than OJ Mayo.
Here's another thing i don't get: Forget about Kelenna Azubuike for a moment. Is OJ Mayo a better player than the 6-6" Reggie Williams?
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll get to see Monta guard Mayo much in this game. The short-handed Warriors will be forced to play small, barring a miraculous return of Rony Turiaf, which means Maggette on Zach Randolph, Monta on Gay, and Morrow on the only player on Memphis who doesn't need guarding, Mike Conley.
Which means either Curry or Watson should start the game on Mayo. But look for Reggie Williams to get plenty of time. That's the guy I want to watch. Playing OJ Mayo.
Predictions:
- Reggie Williams gets more minutes than Anthony Morrow.
- Reggie Williams gets more points than OJ Mayo.
- Three Warriors finish with 5 or more fouls.
- Don Nelson gets tossed, oh.... mid-third quarter.
- Monta Ellis back-to-back 39 point games. Unless Curry plays, in which case 35 points.
- Anthony Tolliver shoots 9 three pointers, making 4.
- Hasheem Thabeet gets very, very tired.
- Warriors by 1 (trademark: Atma Brother #1).
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For once, I appreciate the back to back
so we can quickly erase that abomination we saw last night. I later found out that the Spurs were coming off their own complete disaster in Orlando, so that explains some of their extra ooomph. Doesn’t excuse our poor play, though.
Let the tanking continue!
My game prediction:
We will make Thabeet look like the 2nd overall pick he actually is.
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
Game Predictions
- The Memphis Grizzlies defeat our Golden State Warriors, 114-106.
- Monta Ellis leads the way with 27 points.
- Stephen Curry sits this one out.
- O.J. Mayo posts a double-double.
- Marc Gasol blocks four shots.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 20, 2010 3:15 PM PDT reply actions
Do you pretype those
or do you make them up on the spot?
by IQofaWarrior on Mar 20, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither
It’s none of the above. They are mathematically and scientifically researched and then posted.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 20, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
OJ Mayo
Will not get a double double he’ll be lucky to have 5 rebounds by the end of the night.
Ignoring salaries, hype, etc., Reggie Williams >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OJ Mayo. It’s not even close. The only thing Mayo is better at is turning the ball over.
There will be no extra point!
LOL,
and when I say that I really mean that I laughed out loud at your ridiculous post. You also said in a previous post that Anthony Morrow is a better player than Monta Ellis. Keep over analyzing stats and not watching games… You take Morrow and Williams and I’ll take Ellis and Gay.
Reggie Williams over OJ Mayo? It’s not a shock that not 1 of 30 gm’s or teams think that what so ever, atleast for me.
Thing B
by warriorsscore110 on Mar 20, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You take Morrow and Williams and I’ll take Ellis and Gay.
Sleepy will take two of the most efficient scorers in the league, while you will take two of the highest volume, low efficiency, blackholes in this league that will make around 25 million a year combined. I think Sleepy made the right decision.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
will take two of the most efficient scorers in the league, while you will take two of the highest volume, low efficiency, blackholes
Anthony Morrow is our best shooter. Why dont we have him shoot every single time we come down the court? No seriously he has our best chance of making the most points per shot and most point per possesion. Have him fire every single time. Every time we have someone with a lower ts% shoot has been a wasted posesion, right?
Thing B
by warriorsscore110 on Mar 21, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Also,
SF prefaced his comment by saying salaries aside. Still I would rather have Ellis and Gay on thier contracts than Williams on second 10 day contract (he wont be in the NBA come Monday, despite his ‘effiencent scoring’) and Morrow on his near min wage.
Thing B
by warriorsscore110 on Mar 21, 2010 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions
@ WS110: I don’t remember saying Morrow was “better than” Ellis, but it’s nice to know you’re keeping track.
I have to say, man, not just ’cos of the rather prick-ly tone in which you called me out: I have noticed a distinct drop in the quality of your posting here over the last few months. I mean, your writing style was never great shakes, but it seems like you used to spend more time making cogent, interesting points and less time sneering, LOL-ing at other posters and generally being a whiny little drip.
In the interest of improving your True Posting Percentage: would you care to explain what exactly makes Mayo a better player than Reggie Williams?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 21, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So, should we expect hes out again?
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
i would assume so
i doubt he’d heal that quickly between yesterday and today
by IQofaWarrior on Mar 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Update on Curry...he's a maybe tonight.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Mar 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, this was written last night/this morning
so it’s not up to date as of this moment. If he still had to “jump” on it to make progress, my guess is that his ankle won’t be 100% today, so I’m not expecting him to be in. If he does show up tonight, he really really really better be 100% on that ankle.
by IQofaWarrior on Mar 20, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Sasquatch right now is leading Northern Iowa
Over Kansas. If Turner is gone that’s who the Warriors should draft. A true big man 7’0 280 who can shoot the ball.
Monta Ellis is a far better defender than OJ Mayo.
I don’t think the difference is huge, whether you believe Monta to be better than OJ or vice versa. Mayo also has better potential because of his relative size. Mayo is also 6’4", 6’6" wingspan, 210 lbs compared to Monta’s 6’3", 6’2" wingspan, 180 lbs. Mayo is definitely not an ideal sized 2 guard, but he is closer than Monta.
OJ Mayo is having a decent season, averaging 18 points on 46% shooting.
He’s a three point shooter, so his FG% underrates his effectiveness. His TS% is .550, which is actually pretty good.
I don’t think he’s a perfect fit for the team, but I feel like I’m here early enough that it’s okay to nitpick on some of the details.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Monta has his beat in pretty much every statistical category
When you look at the points, assists, rebounds, and steals. Mayo does have the ability to be a better defender than Ellis because he’s stronger, but Mayo has yet to show that.
Can someone prove to you, that per minute stats are better ways of evaluating players, rather than misleading per game numbers?
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
Even Ellis's
Per 36 minutes stats are better.
per minute stats...
are absolutely bull.
It’s just predicting that players will put up those number of stats if they had those minutes,while per game stats are already proven.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Mar 20, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Per minute stats are just as “proven” as per game stats. Do you also prefer your baseball numbers “per game”?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 20, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you also prefer your baseball numbers "per game"?
Well, Yes? A whole game is a lot more meaningful than a partial game, just like actually playing someone for 36 minutes is a lot more meaningful than projecting what someone could possibly do in 36 minutes if he had the stamina to play 36 minutes when he’s barely able to play 18 minutes?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 20, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
“Projection” has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. Whether per game or per 36 minutes, we’re talking about events that actually happened.
Last I checked, the most used and useful baseball metrics were given per at bat, or per plate appearance, or per nine innings, not per game. The reason for this should be pretty obvious to any thinking person. A l’il hint: it’s the same reason per minute numbers are generally a much fairer and more useful way to compare basketball players.
The “stamina” argument is pure BS most of the time. Unless you’re dealing with a slug like Eddy Curry, the average NBA bench player is an elite athlete who is not going to get gassed playing 30-40 minutes of actual hoops out of a two-and-half hour game. Further, it’s been pointed out many, many times on this site that NBA players’ per minute production tends not to vary much depending on minutes played (assuming reasonable sample sizes). C’mon Skep: after 3-4 years on this site. you still wanna spout this nonsense about stamina and “projection”? Have you really learned nothing in your time here?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 21, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really
Two stats that OJ has Monta beat in: Turnovers, true shooting percent. I’d rather have 18 PPG at 55 TS% than 25.5 at 52 TS%, especially from scorers.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Other stats Mayo has on Monta
Height, Wingspan and Weight
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Those are not per minute stats.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Mar 20, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
I wasn’t trying to say they were. You and Rocky don’t believe in them, so why would I use them in an argument?
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I just find it annoying...
when people use PER minute stats to make players look good.
This is irrelevant,though.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Mar 20, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
You shouldn't capitalize per unless you're talking about PER
it’s kinda confusing
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s kinda confusing because he’s kinda confused.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 20, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
So glad I didnt join a March Madness pool this year!
One of the few to have appreciated Cap'n Jax. Do well in NC, get that 8th seed!
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Stephen Curry playing — and starting tonight — vs. Memphis
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Hmm, this doesn’t match the box score
i know
the question is, which side is correct? Was Curry penciled in and then removed? Or was he penciled out and then added?
by IQofaWarrior on Mar 20, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, northern iowa is going to win!!!!
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
http://www.myp2pforum.eu/threads/35318-Basketball-Today-March-20th
http://www.p2p4u.net/sports/basketball.html
http://www.channelsurfing.net/
Same as yesterday… No link workling…
Eff REFS
CSN pregame
I’m a little nervous about Curry playing when Bob said Curry will “try to play”
Jayhawks LOLOL
One of the few to have appreciated Cap'n Jax. Do well in NC, get that 8th seed!
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dang
I was hoping for the upset, but now my bracket is broken as i had the jayhawks as my national champion! Oh well, I am still living for Cal’s upset over Duke!
Living for a magical 8th seed run
My bracket is so dead LOL
I had Georgetown, Kansas in the Elite 8 and we’re not there yet and they’re gone
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Yo Rated-R Superstar
big ups to Cal. Didnt think they would beat Louisville honestly. BEAT DUKE!
Can’t believe Kansas. LOL…that screwed up a lot of people’s bracket. Pwah!
Mine could get screwed very quickly too. I went with Ohio State to win it all. LOL. (over Kentucky in the finals.)
Go Warriors still tho!
and CURRY IS BACK??? YEZ!
LGW and severely clap to this.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 20, 2010 5:04 PM PDT reply actions
You seem mighty excited...
overdose?
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Mar 20, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
when am i not? LOL
i’m one of the most extreme optimists and get overly passionate when it comes to the Warriors.
A Good season or crappy season.
my golden state of Warrior mind frame don’t ever change.
LGW
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 20, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I had Cal over Lousiville
And I have em over Duke, but I HATE, HATE Duke as a UNC fan.
One of the few to have appreciated Cap'n Jax. Do well in NC, get that 8th seed!
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word. good job EJD.
Go Cal!
Mike Montgomery is a very good college coach.
(just dont coach the warriors ever again. thx.)
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 20, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup, great college coach.
One of the few to have appreciated Cap'n Jax. Do well in NC, get that 8th seed!
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The Tech&Talk commercials...
are getting old,they’re not even funny.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Mar 20, 2010 5:07 PM PDT reply actions
That last one was pretty weak
I think I’ve gotten used to them. Those 2 guys make me think of my coworkers, haha
by IQofaWarrior on Mar 20, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
not to mention how racist they are. would a commercial be allowed using black, asian, or hispanic stereotypes like they use for the indians in that commercial? no. its a shame they allow them.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
I don't know
it’s pretty fun laughing at ourselves (i’m indian)
Living for a magical 8th seed run
cmon its just a commercial joke
its not an issue
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Another one came on as we speak.
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 20, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
it was the exact same one!
about the old donkey
by IQofaWarrior on Mar 20, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm indian
and i still laugh every time they’re on!
Living for a magical 8th seed run
where is shells?
shes been gone lately?
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
I have wondered the same thing. LGW
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 20, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
WOO HOO IM IN A GOOD MOOD 2NIGHT
My school is going to play for the STATE TITLE ON SATURDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!in bakersfield an im going! WOOHOO LGW
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today is saturday.
and who bishop o dowd?
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
it next saturday
bishop o dowd is a private school in oakland and we raw!!! lol we have a 7 fott SOPHMORE… hes top 20 right now for prospects in his class in the nation :)
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my school(bellarmine) got knocked out by branson
who has demarcus nelson’s brother on their team. he scored 38 to win it.
his brother is 6’6 260
and a great shooter
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
how far did you guys go?
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2nd round of nor cal.
but nelson’s brother is amazing. hes a 6’6 260 guard in high school who can shoot, and post like no other.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
260?!?!!?1
holy shi… i hope thats muscle lol
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on another note it was in arco arena
and i have to say… that stadium is pretty bad lol
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tolliver for 3!
tolliver vs thabeet = TMNT vs Yao
your weak! lol
you cant handle our size underneath ! lol, we have a 7 footer and a 6’10 guy both with 7’2 wingsans or more :)
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we whooped on northern california ! so HA!
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Brandan Ashley stuffed all you guys!
And were gunnu be the best team in the state come saturday!!!
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Sure you would have,we got a very very good euro on our team as well
denmark ftw
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but seriously
our euro is awsome
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how come there not in the same spot we are than ?
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Yeah they are!
They are a bigger school so they play in their division championship against De La Salle. My uncle coaches their.
if we win were state champions
there not in our situation :)
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No
they beat ranked teams in the country and thye are going to be state champions in the biggest division if they win at arco against De La Salle.
we'd beat them :D
were flying high right now!
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sssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh!
ruining my good mood! just run with it :D
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not sure actually
some team from the south lol
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nope lol
some other private school i think
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1 sure fire pro and 2 guys who will start in college
and a beasty euro
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that's pretty beasty
Jared Cunningham is our best bet to have a pro, but we got a few football players in the NFL
we got a couple too
langston walker, kirk morrison and tarik glenn but he retired.. we also produced brian shaw, who you guys got?
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o yeah Kirk
we got jarrad page, dennis dixon, marviel underwood (he might not be in the league anymore), and some guys in college who could go pro.
i liked dixon
he should be a good player eventually
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How hard is it to play fundamental basketball
Get your butt into someone and boxout
Conley plays good help defense.
Marcus Williams will have a triple double and flip off Don Nelson at the end of the game.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 20, 2010 5:20 PM PDT reply actions
Williams or Mayo? Who cares?
This season the Warriors don’t seem to care what semi-warm bodies they heave out onto the court to simulate a live basketball team, so thinking ahead to next year I’ll take Azubuike or Raja Bell in the Williams/Mayo spot. After that, Maggette as a short-minutes sub (for offensive changeup only). That puts Reggie Williams far down the list – the 9th or 10th man onto the floor. Reggie does seem like a well-rounded player, unlike Mayo – or Maggette or Morrow. That last bit could change with enough time around the Warriors, of course. In any case, Williams is an easy choice over someone with the defensive skills of Morrow, who should be superglued to the bench until he PROVES he can stop a kitten.
"What day is it"
“Sunday”
“Banks closed on Sunday”
haha
and that was all wrong because it’s Saturday
by IQofaWarrior on Mar 20, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow a blatant walk
leads to a foul by the Warriors and an easy layup by Thabeet!
I heard Bank of America closes at 4 on Sundays...
too late Marcus.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Mar 20, 2010 5:23 PM PDT reply actions
A)
Cal
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 20, 2010 5:23 PM PDT reply actions
A.) Cal
I didn’t have Kansas in the final foul
Marcus
has an ugly shot
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 20, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions
Trying to bank the shot in
Didn’t work either time
i gotta pay attention to the game
missed a monta 3 bomb
With Evans out time for
Curry to make his move on Evans
anyone elses TV on csn being glitchy
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
yeah, a little choppy
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 20, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
lol your name is devean george?
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
this is most likely your last game with the warriors
by IQofaWarrior on Mar 20, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
That used to be Monta's staple
When Jackson, Davis, Harrington, and Richardson were around. Get to the spot and hit that pretty little mid range jumper.
well, that offensive foul balances out the curry one
uncle george time
whats this crap
with all the fouls on maggs? legit?
by These Refs Suck on Mar 20, 2010 5:34 PM PDT reply actions
Reggie!
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 20, 2010 5:34 PM PDT reply actions
this guy is a legitimate nba player
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
Well, he’s also older than a lot of first rounders
So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison
by Badly Browned on Mar 20, 2010 5:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
looks like he rushed that a little
his release looked kinda funny
by IQofaWarrior on Mar 20, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the "69th" game of the season...
hmm.
by Cpt. Jack in the Box on Mar 20, 2010 5:37 PM PDT reply actions
Sorry couldn't resist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLV3a4CgYLE
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 20, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like 6'9.25" wingspan, and I think he's more like 6'4"-6'5"
Not the worst fit for small forward ever, but not the best.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
so, hes still really good.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
Oh hell yeah
I really like him a lot.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
He's not 6'6
According to all the sites I’ve seen he’s either 6’4 or 6’5. Not an ideal height for a small forward.
hahahaha
monta, no behind the backboard shot today
GSWSCRIBE - Sorry if im late
Reggie Williams will be staying. Confirmed that. But don’t be surprised if it’s Raja Bell, not Devean George, who is released.
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no, hes an expiring next year, and can actually provide somehting
bell wont be with us this year or next
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
wuts that money going to?
who are we possibling getting with that money, lets be real here
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someone most likely.
more than keeping raja bell on the bench for 10 games
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
id rather have coach raja than bi standard vlad
and weev seen what we do with big expiring deals with guys who dont play like vlad and speedy. they go to nothing
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vlad will actually play….hes not insured….at least we can have a good shooter off the bench…
we all know of your hatred for vlad.
coach raja isnt doing anything
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
vlad cant shoot that well anymore
tolliver takes his spot as a shooter off the bench as a big.
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Lol
Vlad is a big in the same way that Hedo Turkoglu is a big.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, hes had an strained achilles this year
i ll take his career 39% from 3
and vlads rebounding was 7.2 per 36 this year
better than some players like turk and bargnani
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
tolliver >vlad easy
and vlads stroke left him a while ago
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I don't think it's realistic to cut Vlad
Bell has an expiring deal, there are only 13 games left in the season. Vlad has over 1 year, 14 million left.
Bell won’t be returning
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
i know bell wont
ut neither should vlad, wasted money
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yes, and no….it was worth it to rid us of captn ass
and hes a nice guy and can shoot and is an expiring we can use next year
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
good player > nice guy who cant play
and i dont really think he can shoot anymore :/, and we wont use that money for anything we already know this
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i think he can still shoot
i agree that tolliver is better, but its not like we should cut vlad.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
than vlad shouldnt be in the rotation
and george > vlad and i dont want to cut george right now… so you know where im goin with it
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
thats why you cut bell
hes never going to play for us
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
meh, dont really care either way
but raja is a better influence for the end of the year an gives a lil leadership right now
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
It's nice to have Raja around
but I think it’s more realistic to cut/buy him out. It’s pretty uncommon to buy out multi-year contracts.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather have Tolliver
but I think Vlad can still shoot. It’s incredibly rare for players to just become horrible at what they are good at.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course it's wasted money
but there’s nothing we can do about that- he’s getting that money no matter what.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
LETS GO DUBZ!
ROMESdavidWOOD37 has taken over the Ongline. He's cool.
by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 20, 2010 5:46 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah it is
He touched the ball once it went off the backboard and he grabbed the rim. Easy goal tend call.
theres a reason memphis wanted monta
hes got a huge fan base down there
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
Box out!!!
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 20, 2010 5:52 PM PDT reply actions
The Warriors do not know how to do that
Blame Nelson
Mike Conley sucks
I don’t understand how he’s starting for Memphis let alone in the league.
hes not bad…maybe not a starter but definitely nba player material.
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
He's athletic
and has a nice wingspan.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
So should LeBron James, Carmelo and Durant, apparently.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Durant should definitely become a better rebounder
James is fine cause he does other things not just score the ball. Carmelo should be a better rebounder as well.
Durant is about as good of a rebounder as he ever needs to be.
Gay, Durant, Melo and James are all way above average position rebounders.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess its hard to get 10 rebounds a night
When Randolph and Gasol are in the lineup
George droppin dimes
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 20, 2010 6:03 PM PDT reply actions
hot streak most likely
his form hasn’t improved
i’d like to see him change it a little bit
Nellie needs to go! but while we suffer....John Wall or Evan Turner please!
why all the hate when he's been great
he’s showing that he’s a threat everywhere even at the 3 point line. his % this year is very respectable, better than other superstar scorers like kobe, wade, melo, james
Come on Steph, Conley is nothing
dont’ let him drive on you
Don't get me wrong
he isn’t good or anything, but he is quick and athletic.
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 20, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Conley is similar to JJ Barea,
only one was a lotto pick.
"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2
by golden_solitude on Mar 20, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

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