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Recap #73: Golden State Warriors 121, Los Angles Clippers 103 - Reggie Williams, the new shiny toy

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(The Clippers are clearly not the Dallas Mavericks and this may be why Drew Gooden is no longer one)

The debate continues on whether fate of the Warriors' franchise for the next few seasons, if we're so blessed or cursed to get the #1 pick in this year's lottery, depends on Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry in the backcourt or Ellis and Wall or Curry and Wall or Ellis and Turner ... etc. etc.

But after last night's game, a surprising 121-103 over the Los Angeles Clippers, perhaps the ideal backcourt is Stephen Curry and Reggie Williams?

I'm of course being completely facetious, but it's worth considering just for the heck of it.  Watching Reggie Williams effectively run the offense --  evidenced by his balanced scoring, rebounding, and assisting -- does this provide more reason to trade Ellis and snag Evan Turner?  Let the discussions begin...

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As we've all noticed, he's got one of the sweetest jumpshots in Warriors' history.  He's got range and he even knows how to use the glass on some of those jumpers.  Whether it's a runner, from 10 feet, or 23 feet, Reggie Williams can make it.  With him and Curry on the perimeter, the Warriors can definitely stretch the floor. 

Not only that, but we saw witnessed him running the offense, setting up teammates off pick and rolls and drives to the hoops. 

With Williams' size, length, and penchant for defending star players, have we found the right compliment at the starting guard position to offset the diminutive Curry?  If that's the case, do we draft Turner and plug him in at the three?

Plus he has a nice smile!  Good for Warriors promotional materials and billboards off 880.  Does anyone ever find it surprising that there aren't many Warriors billboards if at all? 

Onto other highlights and player news from last nights game:

Chris Hunter, in my opinion, may go down as the most hilarious Warrior to watch ever.  Remember the days when Adonal Foyle would shoot a jump shot that hit the top of the backboard and nothing else?  Or when Mike Dunleavy Jr's epic failures trying to finish a fast break or provide some leadership? 

Chris Hunter may trump both of them as far as futility.

As Atma Brother #1 aptly put it, Hunter is like the complete opposite of Andris Biedrins.  Instead of converting wide open dunks and lay-ups, Hunter is much more adept at making the more difficult spin, baby hook with his right AND left hand. 

Not only that, but Chris Hunter seems to follow a long line of faulty big men to don a Warriors jersey.  You begin to wonder if Curry or Williams might have had 15+ assist games each if Hunter (and Turiaf) didn't bobble passes or bounce them off their own legs putting the ball up.  If there was only a way to put Chris Hunter and Andris Biedrins together, we might have the dominant (and good-looking) center we've always wanted.

What's up with the increased high-fiving???

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(Nellie giving props)

There's something to be said about some of the camaraderie on the Warriors squad.  Perhaps it's the d-leaguers just trying to fit in, but you see a lot more high-fiving on this Warriors squad in spite of how bad their record might be.  Anytime something happens, you see teammates huddling on the court, giving each other a five on the hand ... or the buttocks.  Caught on camera, this team seems to enjoy letting each other know that they appreciate each other.

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(Try to guess who's hand Tolliver is trying to five)

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(Hopefully Reggie Williams was a good teammate and didn't leave Ronnie Turiaf hangin')

With all the hi-fiving, it leads to this question (which Marcus Thompson posed earlier): What do we do next season when all the injured Warriors on contract come back healthy?  Does Kelenna Azubuike's return mean either Anthony Morrow or Reggie Williams will no longer be back with the team (via Ridiculous Upside)?  Or will they be relegated to the 10-12th man on the team?  Is the development of Brandan Wright and Anthony Randolph more imperative than our current hard-working and infinitely more refined offensively and defensively Anthony Tolliver and Chris Hunter?  Of our d-league players, who should the Warriors try to keep?  And what kind of role would they have?

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Reggie Williams may be the greatest d-league pickup of ALL-TIME.  With each game, Reggie continues to show us more and more aspects of his offensive repertoire.  Him and Curry, honestly, are the only reasons we should be watching the Warriors right now! Larry Riley, hand this man the mid-level exception!  What do folks think of Reggie Williams' ceiling?  Is he the NEXT Michael Redd?  Or better?

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Meaningless wins

Maybe it’s just me, but ever since the announcement of the Warriors sale, Nellie has appeared to actually be coaching these games and trying to win. Is he trying to audition for soon-to-be owner of the Dubs so that he can keep his job?

Anyways, as for Reggie, I must admit I had my doubts about him but he is growing on me. I hope he keeps it up. Maybe he can force CJ or Azubuike outta here.

So let me get this straight... Maggette is the healthy guy.
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison

by Badly Browned on Mar 29, 2010 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Golden State D-Leaguers strike gold again!..?

Are we bringing yet 2 more D-leaguers out of obscurity this season? This has got to be some kind of NBA record….

by FishStix on Mar 29, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Very clever, FJ. So clever I’m making you green. ;-)

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 29, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

1. Kobe ?

   Wait a minute, isn’t there a Kobe is overrated thread going on somewhere around here?
       Typical Republican obfuscation ?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 29, 2010 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

HOLD UP...

I maintain they be proactive until everyone comes back healthy. I JUST HAVE A GUT FEELING THAT THIS ROSTER WILL SURPRISE NOT ONLY US FAITHFUL FANS BUT THE NBA AS WELL. The current players are, to me, the following:

       
- Lots of talents
- No prima donnas (not even Monta)
- They do NOT know what the word "Give Up" means.
- They continue to play to the end.
- They are young, coach-able and DETERMINED.
- The camaraderie is just fantastic.

The aforementioned is a recipe for success. I hope they give ‘em a chance for at least a season or two to mold together (hoping they will be at least 80-90 percent healthy).

by nightroddude on Mar 29, 2010 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Wishful thinking

Injured players like Randolph and Wright don’t become better on the bench.

by saint.dee on Mar 29, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know...

I know…Wishful thinking … I just want this roster to be rewarded with at least a winning season next season (if not getting to the playoffs). You can tell they give their very best every game they play. Doesn’t hurt to be optimistic.

by nightroddude on Mar 29, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Injured players like Randolph and Wright don’t become better on the bench.

 you forget we’re playin mind games here.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 29, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's no way we would ever get rid of Curry if we drafted Wall.

It bugs me even if someone mentions it off-hand. Given Curry’s salary, potential and amazing talent, his value is almost as high as any player in the NBA. We can’t possibly trade him and get equal, long-term value in return.

by HOLDEMUPGoldenStateOfOppression on Mar 29, 2010 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know about this. If we trade Curry we can get rid of Maggette’s contract, too. We might be able to get equal value in a case like that. Might require a first round draft pick as well.

Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.

by Naticus2 on Mar 29, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Curry + a first round pick just to get rid of Maggette’s contract? That had better be a league top 10 player, if not I say sit on the contract.

"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."

Frank Zappa

by qin on Mar 29, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry but that is just a stupid idea.

Maggette is not bad to the point where you trade Curry (a very good young point guard) and maybe a future first round pick for something other than LeBron, Wade, Howard, Anthony, etc. No more stupid trade ideas for “stars” like Bosh or Stoudemire. Randolph can develop into a Bosh type player and he’s cheaper, so there’s no point in going after those types of guys. Plus, Randolph is going to be working with Bosh this summer.

by duballers23 on Mar 29, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Randolph is going to be working with Bosh this summer.

How so?

"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."

Frank Zappa

by qin on Mar 29, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That can not be a bad thing. No summer league just getting worked day in and day out by Bosh. They going to have a “big’s” coach or anyone else in the mix?

"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."

Frank Zappa

by qin on Mar 29, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he is also doing summer league, but will be working out with Bosh during another time. Sort of like how Curry worked out with Chris Paul for about a month or so last summer. I don’t know if they are going to be working out with a bigs coach, but I think he said that he is going to be working with Bosh’s trainer.

by duballers23 on Mar 29, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bosh’s trainer is good enough for me as long as it’s supervised. And I dont think AR can play in the summer league, It’s 2 and your done.

"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."

Frank Zappa

by qin on Mar 29, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here is what iStoner said
AR4 Is already bulked up to 225, and by the start of next season he will be at 245. But i guess seeing is believing, so you will all have to wait i guess. He has been working with the same trainer that bulked up Chris Bosh. And he will be training with Bosh all summer down in Dallas. So you can count on his post game getting better as well.

by duballers23 on Mar 29, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope its true

but imagine our Summer League lineup if Randolph plays. We are going to destroy everyone lol

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by GSW9 on Mar 29, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's gotta be a good idea

Before he even played his first game, Curry’s working out with the best pg in the league. Morrow and Randolph on the other hand, spent the summer playing pick-up ball at St. Mary’s. I’m not tryin to get down on St. Mary’s but you can’t compare the level of competition.

Randolph working out with Bosh is gonna humble him and get him on track all over again.

by NextSeason on Mar 29, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

istoner says he knows Randolph's cousin and he said

  ahh, the big “the glove sez he knows a cousin that knows a guy” card huh?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 29, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would he waste his time telling lies about knowing Randolph's cousin?

 Haha, How should I know, ask Dan Marino ? probably just cause he’s a high school sophomore with a computer?? If he wasn’t tryin to pull our legs why would he claim that Rudolf could still fly around the court carrying 250 pounds ???

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 29, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless...

he transformed himself into the physical specimen that is LEBRON JAMES! Haha… whew.. i almost hurt myself laughing.

by dj fuzzylogic on Mar 29, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont know

I love Curry so much, but Wall’s ceiling is best 1 in the league, and his floor is probably around Deron Williams. If we could have him and trade curry+maggs for someone pretty good, maybe a big man, I’d take it to the bank.

by yo on Mar 29, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

his floor is probably around Deron Williams

really buddy? So his floor, the worst he could possibly become, is around the level of arguably the best PG in the league?

by randolphforpresident on Mar 29, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

That guy doesn't make much sense

That’s what happens when people get caught up in the hype.

by duballers23 on Mar 29, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's no way we would ever get rid of Curry if we drafted Wall.

 I don’t think it would be that hard to find some one that needs him? He’s a bit young, small, and soft but there are teams out there with worse players??

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 29, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a bad feeling that the Wizards will claim our coveted 3rd spot

and end up with the first overall pick.

"It's like Will Smith, remember the Fresh Prince? Get the ball don't let nobody else shoot? That's kinda what the offense can be sometimes, and they're just standing around waiting for Monta to make a play"
-MT2

by golden_solitude on Mar 29, 2010 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Dump Wright Keep Toliver, i love morrow but if either him or reggie have to go it has to be Morrow, Reggie isn’t quite the 3 specialist Morrow is but he’s a better passer and scorer. We keep the backcourt the same, draft evan turner and trade Mags giving Bukie the starting role and let turner be our 6th man as Harden is for the Thunder. If we can get tuner we go with Cousins a big man who runs the floor.. Hunter doesn’t seems to have a future on this team but the way i want to see it next year is
C Turiaf/Beans( these two have been interchangeable all year)
PF Randolph/Tolliver
Sf Bukie/ Turner( or vice versa)
SG Ellis/ Williams
PG Curry/ CJ
  Thats the 10 i want for next year and ill be happy Maybe Wright develops and we keep him who knows. Morrow would seem to be the odd man out Idk what to do with Vlad

by 4Ever Golden on Mar 29, 2010 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd like to keep Turner as our 6th man

Atleast until he can knock down a NBA 3pointer consistently

by Richboievans on Mar 29, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like it very much, with one small change....

I am still intrigued by the idea of having Ellis (SG/PG), Curry (SG/PG) AND Williams (SF) on the floor at the same time for a good portion of any game ….it would present potentially explosive offense; tremendous scoring and playmaking capability that few NBA defenses could match.

by dinohealth on Mar 31, 2010 4:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

FYI

According to Fitz Reggie Williams is signed through next season. Fitz said so on the telecast of the Memphis game. I have not been able to verify that but I sure hope it’s true.
Tolliver and Reggie are must stays while Hunter can go along with Radman, Maggs, Wright, George, and even Monta if we can find the right deal that brings back strong defense. As dynamic of a scorer Monta is we have plenty but severely lack a lock down perimeter defender. Can’t wait for a fresh start next season with a healthy and rested AR4, Buike, Beans, and Ronny. Hopefully we keep Ammo and C.J. but if we do they not gonna get a whole lot of PT if we healthy. It’s a good thing they team players and will cheer on their teammates regardless.

by pre10d on Mar 29, 2010 6:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes.

We have Williams under contract through next year. Between Morrow and C.J., I’d rather keep C.J. Morrow has been really struggling, and not just in his shooting. Every aspect of his game is FAR below average right now. I agree we should keep Tolliver.

by HOLDEMUPGoldenStateOfOppression on Mar 29, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd good post dj, topic worthy of discussion.I thought Thompson's take was pretty good.

I see Toliver as a possible SF backup with a healthy team and Williams as a great 2/3 potential, so far he is a real gem! It would take a struggle for Turner to out perform him the way he is playing. Hate to lose Beans,Ellis or Maggette right away unless less we get actual value for the trade and agree that Rad/George should go. Hunter is a ? I still wish that we could draft Cousins and have next year with a trio of Beans/Turiaf/Cousins at the low post.
Thomsons comment about AR/BW as too similiar PF ie: we need variety in size/stength ect. is something that is really true at several positions ie: Cousins can mix in as a strong PF as well when positional defense is needed with some opponents.
A guy like Favours who has tremendous long term potential could possibly develope into a strong PF as well but how long will it take?
Bottom line is with Buike/Williams/Maggette(hard to move)+Toliver why would it be our priority to draft a SF this year?(there is some defense there as well with Toliver/Buike at that position) too bad Buike doesnt have CapJacks height. We can see what we are missing with Jack gone(but dont miss his chucking up 3’s)

by Only In Fairfax on Mar 31, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

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