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GameThread #61: Golden State Warriors @ Atlanta Hawks- Welcome to Atlanta where the D-Leaguers play

Golden State Warriors at Atlanta Hawks, Mar 5, 2010 4:30 PM PST


Originally posted Mar 5, 2010 3:45 AM PST

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They got a good thing going in HOTlanta. Much respect.

Sorry, Mrs. Jackson. The Hawks are for real.

Warriors (41-18) vs Hawks (21-39)

Tip Off: 4:30pm PST

TV: CSN Bay Area | Radio: KNBR

Blog Buddy: Peachtree Hoops


Forget what happened in the Orlando. (See RECAP: Golden State Warriors 90, Orlando Magic 117 - Dwight Howard double-double + a poor shooting night by Stephen Curry = Easy win for the Magic if you feel like reminiscing for some odd reason.)

Forget what happened in Miami. (See RECAP: Golden State Warriors 106, Miami Heat 110 - The Warriors aka "D League All Stars" Almost Pull the Win if you feel like reminiscing for some odd reason.)

Why?

Well JUMP to find out!

Star-divide

We all know what happened last time the Dubs and Hawks squared off. We welcomed Atlanta to the Bay and showed them Dirty South folk how we hyphy folk do it here in the Yay Area.

In case you forgot...

RECAP: Golden State Warriors 108, Atlanta Hawks 104- Welcome to the Bay

Now do I expect that to happen again this afternoon?

NOPE.

Simply put, the Warriors are not fielding a NBA level squad right now. Don't get me wrong I really do appreciate everything the Golden State D-Leaguers have brought to the table. Their passion and hunger to earn playing time and make the most of it (something that was completely missing with the Warriors "future fours" Anthony Randolph and Brandan Wright who oddly felt entitled to playing time) is unmatched and refreshing to see. It's funny, but both D-League big men Hunter and Tolliver have a few areas, post moves and jumper respectively, that are just superior to the Warriors overrated and overhyped center tandem of Andris Biedrins and Ronny Turiaf. I guess these guys developed in the D-League, while the Warriors big men just got complacent- more so Biedrins than Turiaf.

From the recent call-ups Chris Hunter, Anthony Tolliver, Reggie Williams, to the more recent D-League or undrafted mainstays on this roster a la C.J. Watson and Anthony Morrow you really can't knock the hustle. These guys are trying and giving their all- well aside from Watson on defense (he's proof that steals don't paint the whole picture of defensive tenacity). Throw in Stephen Curry keeping his slim hopes alive for the ROY honors and there's still some fun GSW hoops to see if you can look beyond the fact that this is just not an NBA level roster right now. Just don't expect a winning record anytime soon even with a hall of fame coach in waiting Don Nelson on the sidelines.

Other than that, there's really not much to analyze here.

The Hawks are very good.

The Warriors are very bad.

Anything can happen, but will it?

We shall see.

 

But until game time here's some much deserved screen time for The Human Highlight Film:

Just NASTY!

 

More Hawk-age:


FG 3PT FT Rebounds Misc
G M M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
Joe Johnson 60 38.0 8.5 18.4 46.4 1.7 4.6 37.1 2.9 3.5 83.4 1.1 3.7 4.7 4.6 2.0 1.1 0.1 2.0 21.7
Jamal Crawford 59 30.8 6.0 13.3 44.9 1.9 5.1 37.1 3.4 4.0 86.0 0.4 2.0 2.4 2.9 1.7 0.8 0.2 1.6 17.3
Josh Smith 60 34.6 6.1 11.9 51.4 0.0 0.1 0.0 3.4 5.4 63.4 2.7 6.2 8.9 4.1 2.2 1.7 2.1 3.0 15.6
Al Horford 60 35.2 5.7 10.3 54.9 0.0 0.0 100.0 2.5 3.3 76.8 2.7 6.7 9.4 2.2 1.4 0.8 1.2 2.8 13.9
Marvin Williams 59 29.8 3.7 8.4 44.7 0.6 1.8 32.1 2.2 2.7 82.3 1.2 3.8 5.1 1.1 0.8 0.7 0.7 2.0 10.3
Mike Bibby 60 27.5 3.2 8.0 39.9 1.4 3.9 36.4 0.9 1.1 84.4 0.3 1.9 2.2 4.2 1.2 0.9 0.0 1.9 8.7
Maurice Evans 58 15.0 1.9 4.3 43.7 0.7 2.0 33.0 0.5 0.6 80.0 0.7 1.1 1.8 0.6 0.3 0.4 0.2 1.5 4.9
Zaza Pachulia 56 13.5 1.5 3.4 44.3 0.0 0.1 0.0 1.2 1.9 65.7 1.4 2.1 3.5 0.4 0.8 0.5 0.4 2.4 4.3
Jeff Teague 52 9.7 1.1 3.2 35.5 0.1 0.4 22.7 0.6 0.7 86.1 0.1 0.8 0.9 1.7 0.7 0.6 0.2 1.2 3.0
Joe Smith 46 9.0 1.1 2.8 40.3 0.0 0.1 16.7 0.6 0.8 78.4 1.2 1.5 2.6 0.3 0.4 0.0 0.3 1.4 2.9
Randolph Morris 22 4.6 0.9 1.6 52.8 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.6 0.9 65.0 0.3 1.0 1.3 0.1 0.3 0.1 0.1 1.2 2.3
Mario West 19 3.6 0.3 0.5 60.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.2 0.3 60.0 0.4 0.5 0.9 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.0 0.6 0.8
Jason Collins 20 4.0 0.1 0.6 16.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0 0.2 0.3 0.5 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.1 0.9 0.2
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My Predictions

The Atlanta Hawks defeat the Golden State D-Leaguers: 108-96

-Stephen Curry has a comeback game 25-8-5
-Reggie Williams goes 10-5-5
-Jamal Crawford drops at least 25 tonight to make up for the last time we met.
-Joe Johnson shoots at least 6 free-throws.
-Josh Smith gets 4+ Blocks.

by tayuku on Mar 5, 2010 3:53 AM PST reply actions  

Jeez...

…Biedrins isn’t even playing, can we lay the off? Also, I don’t know that you could argue Rony is overhyped. I haven’t heard anybody suggest he’s more than a backup C.

New coach needed, as well as new management, players, etc.

by Zack Vank on Mar 5, 2010 6:45 AM PST reply actions  

Peachtree Street is the main drag through town

At least it was a few decades ago the last time I was in ATL.

by breaker on Mar 5, 2010 7:58 AM PST reply actions  

Chris Hunter

    I hope he gets noticed around the league and gets a permanent contract somewhere if not here.
  I really like his calm attitude.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 5, 2010 10:17 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Warriors (41-18) vs Hawks (21-39)

Wishful thinking ATMA? =P

by venom322 on Mar 5, 2010 11:06 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Glad to see someone got a kick out of that!

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by Atma Brother ONE on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Game Predictions
  • Our Golden State Warriors defeat the Atlanta Hawks, 131-102.
  • Monta Ellis leads the way with 33 points.
  • Andris Biedrins grabs 13 rebounds.
  • Corey Maggette makes all 10 of his free throws.
  • Brandan Wright and Anthony Randolph have more rebounds and blocked shots than Al Horford and Josh Smith.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 11:36 AM PST reply actions  

Hahahaha

Someone’s been playing 1 too many video games, hahahaha!

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops

Maggette is playing.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I mis nique and the rain man.

Where have all the power dunkers gone?

by LuvDubs on Mar 5, 2010 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

Where have all the power dunkers gone?

  DHo looked pretty powerful? Maybe just against the Dubs??

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 5, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Freaky Friday.

As a long time gambler, I will tell you that crazy stuff happens in the NBA on Fridays. I would not be surprised if the Warriors kept it close, but I will be surprised if they win. Also I heard rumors of Maggs playing today, anyone hear about this?

by warriorsnut on Mar 5, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

acc. to Nelson on the thurs. radio show

M’gette is expected to be available in Atl. The coach admitted the player’s heavy minutes probably contributed to the break-down, and thought at the season’s start that around 25 min./gm would be ideal.

by the.monk on Mar 5, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha
I guess these guys developed in the D-League, while the Warriors big men just got complacent- more so Biedrins than Turiaf.

Hahahahahaha.
Great for the laughs.

banned like chris andersen

by MDB on Mar 5, 2010 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

I don't

think we are going to win, but i am still gonna watch and support my team no matter what. I hope Curry has a great game as well as Morrow. LGW!!

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PG: Stephen Curry
Can't wait until GS wins a championship!!!

by GSW9 on Mar 5, 2010 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

stream anyone?

"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

by KINGofCRA5H on Mar 5, 2010 4:33 PM PST reply actions  

Oh no... Maggette's playing.

Time to lose!

jk. LGW!

But after seeing ball movement without maggette and monta, it’s hard to see those 1 on 5s.

by alex in OT on Mar 5, 2010 4:34 PM PST reply actions  

lies

"There he goes. One of god's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die."

by KINGofCRA5H on Mar 5, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahaha

josh smith AIIIIIRRBAAAALLL

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

hawks starting out well

warriors starting out ok, except for that hawks steal

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

Morrow

He’s taking it to the rim early.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 4:44 PM PST reply actions  

cj AGGRESSIVE to the rim

that was very very very aggressive drive

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 4:46 PM PST reply actions  

hmmm

this could hurt Curry’s numbers

by randolphforpresident on Mar 5, 2010 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

Curry

That was a sick tip, but they gave it to Turiaf.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 4:58 PM PST reply actions  

haha

I was wondering how Baron Davis fit into this conversation

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss him too though.

But I think everyone misses BD. I don’t miss him in his current condition though.

by ScrawnyBaller84 on Mar 5, 2010 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

I think his FG% is low due to the playing style in L.A. He’d probably be quite a bit better here.

Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.

by Naticus2 on Mar 5, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Baron's lost some of his athleticism too.

Like he doesn’t care about his conditioning as much any more. My LA friend/clipper fan sayslast year BD could barely dunk.

by ScrawnyBaller84 on Mar 5, 2010 5:03 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahahaha

wow, i don’t want to imagine that

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

I also miss Richardson, Harrington, Pietrus, Barnes and everyone on that team. I’m not forgetting about you, Sarunas Jasikevicius!

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude I loved Barnes even though he gunned too many threes.

He just had that attitude I like. And he was a great energy player.

by ScrawnyBaller84 on Mar 5, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Watson

Oh, that was bad.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:04 PM PST reply actions  

Nice

Get that three-point shot to go, Steph.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:05 PM PST reply actions  

Tolliver

You’re kidding me, right?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

oh COME ON!

Tolliver, you NEED TO FINISH THAT!

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

im gonna remember that pronating the index finger advice from Barnett.

I suck at baseball passes, and passing in general. weakest part of my game.

by ScrawnyBaller84 on Mar 5, 2010 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

Tolliver

never seems like he is “on”

by randolphforpresident on Mar 5, 2010 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

Hahahaha

“This is the latest whistle in the history of basketball”

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 5:11 PM PST reply actions  

Watson with 8 FTs

Maggette passing on the knowledge

by farid on Mar 5, 2010 5:11 PM PST reply actions  

THe atdhe stream is garbage today.

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by Naticus2 on Mar 5, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Maggette

He can hit that shot, you know.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

I know he can, it’s just unusual for him to get himself going with J’s off the bench. He’s usually best when he works inside out.

by ScrawnyBaller84 on Mar 5, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Call a maggette a ball hog but at least admit hes one of the best most effective ball hogs.. unlike mr ellis.

banned like chris andersen

by MDB on Mar 5, 2010 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

Sure

Call him whatever you want, but I like him coming off the bench. I think he’s a good player.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Game Over

The sky is falling!

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:24 PM PST reply actions  

Curry

That was a nice crossover and smooth jumper.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:27 PM PST reply actions  

curry nice shot

he has to work hard to get by his defender

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 5:27 PM PST reply actions  

juz got here quick recap?

We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…

by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 5:28 PM PST reply actions  

fast paced game

Warriors putting up a good fight, got a lead against hawks bench, lost it when their starters came back

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Quick Recap

Atlanta was up by eight points, but our biggest lead is nine. The Hawks have made a nice push of their own and have retaken the lead.

Curry and Maggette are playing well. Watson is getting to the line a lot.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks RRS and IQ

We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…

by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

let's go reggie

this is my first time watching reggie on TV, not a stream

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 5:28 PM PST reply actions  

Curry

My goodness, you are on fire!

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:30 PM PST reply actions  

Curry is gonna get 55

banned like chris andersen

by MDB on Mar 5, 2010 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

Jinx

He’ll only score five points in the second half.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey guys remember

We won game against Atlanta when Nellie went big with Hunter and Biedrins. Beans particularly using his size shut down Josh Smith in the 4th qtr. I wonder if we will be able to adjust. So far neither Turiaf or Tolliver cant defend Smith.

by farid on Mar 5, 2010 5:36 PM PST reply actions  

aw man

stream went down :(

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by GSW9 on Mar 5, 2010 5:36 PM PST reply actions  

Reggie looks a bit deflated

He needs to hit his shots to get that 2nd 10 day

by farid on Mar 5, 2010 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

|Anyone have

a link. My stream just went down :(

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PF: Anthony Randolph
PG: Stephen Curry
Can't wait until GS wins a championship!!!

by GSW9 on Mar 5, 2010 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

haha

well, he is right about the 3rd qtr blues. I didn’t even think about it until he brought it up. This is a great game.so far.

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He is a downer

I don’t even know why he still does Warriors columns becuase all he does is rip on them. What’s the point besides getting paid?

by duballers23 on Mar 5, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, he probably cares about the team

Like most of the fans, he’s fed up with what has gone on with the team in the last 15 years.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean

what’s the point in being glowingly positive all the time about a poorly run team like this one?

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

he always looks on the dark side

by duballers23 on Mar 5, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh

that’s not why they have him there. They get enough of positive from the rest of the crew.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean listen to Fitz right now

I get so sick of hearing how amazing Curry is and the injury excuses that someone like Matt there is actually moderately refreshing.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Morrison

He’s awful like I pointed out in the last game thread. Today, for example, he said we have 20 minutes left to play in this game when we all know it’s 24 minutes.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

but he is not positive

pretty much EVER! They are playing with D Leaguers and are still competing. That’s impressive.

by duballers23 on Mar 5, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Bud Light

Okay, this commercial of theirs is really getting old.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry

It’s Miller, not Bud.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Stephen Curry

is balling so far. I hope he can keep it up. Its been fun to watch

Golden State Warriors Fan 4 Life!!!
The Golden Future
PF: Anthony Randolph
PG: Stephen Curry
Can't wait until GS wins a championship!!!

by GSW9 on Mar 5, 2010 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

Breaking News

Detroit Pistons guard Rodney Stuckey is being carted off on the stretcher. He may have had a seizure according to ESPN’s Heather Cox.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

Wow

hope he’s ok

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The Golden Future
PF: Anthony Randolph
PG: Stephen Curry
Can't wait until GS wins a championship!!!

by GSW9 on Mar 5, 2010 5:52 PM PST reply actions  

Here’s to John Wall Evan Turner

by duballers23 on Mar 5, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

whoops fail

Turner>Wall he’d be best for our team

by duballers23 on Mar 5, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

What?

Turner can’t be great? I agree that Wall has more potential, but Turner can be great like Wall.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I said above that either would be great

not that we need Wall or Turner specifically. If we got a shot at Wall, we take him.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Turner should win the Naismith College Player of the Year as well.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

rodney stuckey just had a heart attack

or his sugar got low during the game!

Living for a magical 8th seed run

by KashRocks on Mar 5, 2010 6:00 PM PST reply actions  

I hope he's okay

Living for a magical 8th seed run

by KashRocks on Mar 5, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Williams

I was shocked when the Hawks passed up Chris Paul for him when they clearly needed a point guard.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Not for #2 overall
  1. overall is supposed to be all star status, and 10 ppg is not all star status

by duballers23 on Mar 5, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

2005 NBA Draft

Other top 10 picks aside from Marvin Williams, Andrew Bogut, Deron Williams and Chris Paul were Raymond Felton, Martell Webster, Charlie Villanueva, Channing Frye, Ike Diogu and Andrew Bynum.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Watson

That was a great finish.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:06 PM PST reply actions  

Curry

That’s nuts!

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:07 PM PST reply actions  

curry RAINBOW 3

he is leaving his mark on this team

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 6:07 PM PST reply actions  

Tolliver

I like that he challenged the shot.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:10 PM PST reply actions  

CUrry is absolutely clever

the defense has no idea what he’s going to do

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 6:10 PM PST reply actions  

LGW

ROMESdavidWOOD37 has taken over the Ongline. He's cool.

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 5, 2010 6:11 PM PST reply actions  

damn denver lost kenyon martin

i want to see denver crush LA so badly, and their chances just got smaller.

by ScrawnyBaller84 on Mar 5, 2010 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

Put in Joe Smith!

Our 1995 first overall draft pick. OVER KG

We Believe > We Suck & Long Live '07-'08

by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

hahahaha

hawks didn’t pay attention to the qtr clock

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 6:24 PM PST reply actions  

I hope this game is close to the end

I wan see Curry try for a buzzer beater three

by Crashbranman on Mar 5, 2010 6:25 PM PST reply actions  

?

I was making fun of Al Horford’s IQ, dog

We Believe > We Suck & Long Live '07-'08

by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 6:25 PM PST reply actions  

You know, I really hope Monta finds a way to fit into the team's flow when he comes back

I don’t want to see him dominating the game flow. Perhaps with Curry’s improved play, Monta or Nellie won’t rely on Monta plays so much.

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 6:26 PM PST reply actions  

Monta

can’t even fit with the game flow anymore. He’s become a selfish ballhog ever since Baron left. His turnovers are becoming like Traitor Jack’s before he left. Plus all these injuries just stopped his explosiveness.

We Believe > We Suck & Long Live '07-'08

by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

hmmm

explosiveness? still there. selfsish ballhog? career high in assists as a guy who should off the ball asked to initiate the offense. check. fail

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

His second lowest assist rate (after last season)

meaning that he passes the ball less than he did when he played off the ball.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

but you can't tell if a player passed and set up a missed shot

that doesn’t show up in the box score. So how can you judge if someone’s passing or not?

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

you cant unless you get an assist attempted stance

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess you don't

but it’s not very important to track a player’s bad passes, which are what a lot of Monta’s attempted assists could be called.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

how do you track a bad pass?

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It shows up in the game log

and in the box score as a missed shot for a team mate or a TO

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

you just said missed shots happen all the time

so your saying every missed shot or shgot taken is off of monta’s creation?

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno

I know Monta has had some bad passes, but I’ve also seen him do some great setups and his teammates simply miss.

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you implying that if a teammate misses a shot

it’s the passer’s fault? Off the top of my head, I remember a couple that was kicked out to Tolliver, wide open, who simply missed, and Monta showed his frustration.

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

or beans or ronny screwing up

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

this argument is getting to the point were some people just have to start assuming things to try to make ANY point

no truth, no fact, just “saying”. flawed concepts like every missed shot is cause of a passer and it shows up in the boxscore. so i guess if maggs misses on an iso its monta’s fault. lets blame everything on him (not pointed at you IQ)

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Look

I’m not saying that every missed shot is the fault of the passer, just that good passers seems to actually rack up assists, while bad passers don’t. There has to be reasons for this.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not always the passer's fault

it’s just if a player is missing an open layup off of a pass from Monta, maybe it wasn’t a great pass.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

cant prove it wasnt either

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

An open 3

that’s not really anyone’s fault. Even great 3 point shooters miss more than half of the time.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

actually, the plays that I had in mind

were Tolliver baseline 2s that he missed that Monta set up

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes it is, lol

I’m getting kinda done. I’ve reached a decent enough place with you where I’m satisfied with “Agree to disagree”. Dubzfan is another story.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

well, i just want to make sure the argument is strong enough before i agree to it. But later, not now.

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

i got nothing against you personally

if you do thats fine, if you dont like talking to me you dont have to. just ignore me

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no problem with you

I’m just not at a point where I’m comfortable “agreeing to disagree” with you.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

We do

it just helps us understand the true meaning of the passing game and overral understanding of the game, just more in deph

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

he still passes the same. as effective? thats debatable

ive seen countless times hes had a great pass only to see someone drop the pass or miss badly. let say beans was last year beans, itd be close to 6

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Monta just isn't a good passer

ever notice how players seem to finish when Curry gets them the ball?
Still- he’s a less willing passer now than he has been for most of his career. And he’s a less effective passer because his TOR and TOs are just outrageous.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

TOS and TOR is a tired argument of saying he should be off the ball so I will say it once more

Off ball scorers shouldnt be main passers. And that Curry thing is part of being a real PG , being a better passer for an individual than just passing to the guy. its about the players preference . you cant hate monta for being who he is as a scorer, ask him to do more or anyone to step out of there skill range and it will not look great

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see what's so tired about it

you’re telling me that Monta is a decent, willing passer. His AR and TOR help to disprove that, so you then tell me that TOR and TO are not important for Monta. You brought up his assists, so I brought up rate stats to counter that. As we all know, per game stats aren’t worthwhile.
I don’t hate Monta. He’s just a basketball player.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

he has been a willing passer and when people keep screwing up he has to try to take over to give us any chance

hes been willing and has come out of his comfort zone to give an effort, but its just not working working with alot of the guys we have. ive never said hes a great passer, hes okay and willing if people move around and provide with buckets.. which is rare

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don't see that with my eyes

and it doesn’t show up in the stats.
I never said you said he was a great passer.

you’re telling me that Monta is a decent, willing passer

is what I said.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

when i said he was great

it was a blatant statement not directed at you personally

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh

why would you do that? You’re talking to me, not everyone else.

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

clear the air of my opinion on his passing

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Tolliver shooting 3's

just leaves me dumbfounded

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by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 6:31 PM PST reply actions  

He's shooting 34% for three on the season

that’s like complaining about Kobe shooting at threes. In February, he shot 56% from three

by Reverend_Randy on Mar 5, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Joe Johnson

so silky smooth with that step-back J

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by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 6:32 PM PST reply actions  

How about Detroit's trainer?

Probably slipped something in Stuckey’s DRAAANK. We could do that to Monta every night!

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by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

KIDDING

but do we have any other half-court offense than a Maggette iso?

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by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Are you seriously taking a shot at a team’s trainer?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

How many assists does Curry have?

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by GSW9 on Mar 5, 2010 6:41 PM PST reply actions  

Yes

Texas Tech received four free throws. Oh, and she was only suspended for one game by the NCAA.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Punching someone on the court is basically the worst thing you can do.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Morrow

such an underrated offensive rebounder

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by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 6:44 PM PST reply actions  

7 TO for Curry

Talking about off-guard playing out of position ..

by farid on Mar 5, 2010 6:47 PM PST reply actions  

Whatever

Curry is playing with great talent and against a terrible team. He’s clearly a turnover machine playing out of position.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

so your saying curry is not a pg for his 7 tos

When collison, evans, and jennings have all had a more to game than curry. Also nash had 7 to’s the other night

by Crashbranman on Mar 5, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

7 TO is unusual for Curry.

And yes, he’s forced to play a ton of minutes.

by ScrawnyBaller84 on Mar 5, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

that's Jamal Crawford

hot and cold. Cold for most of the game, hot this qtr

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 6:51 PM PST reply actions  

he's pretty deadly

but his big knock his whole career is that he has been veery inconsistent. He’ll go for 50 and then put up 8 points the next game.

by duballers23 on Mar 5, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Davidson

Although a minor school, Curry really magnified that college because of his high level of play. Morrow was a relative unknown at Georgia Tech.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

AND1

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by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 6:56 PM PST reply actions  

Horford is the hybrid center

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by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

Get out of here Josh Smith

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by MidnightBlue on Mar 5, 2010 7:01 PM PST reply actions  

game over

crawford doesn’t miss FTs

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 7:02 PM PST reply actions  

What was that stat that only 3 rookies have ever done 2 or more times- 30pt and 15 assist? Or, was it just 10 assist? I remember Curry was tied with MJ at 2 times.

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by cybermaldonado on Mar 5, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah..

Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
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by cybermaldonado on Mar 5, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

stat fun

Tolliver continues his hot 3 pt shooting, 4/8 tonight

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

Jinx.

Quit making the theiving Wall Street Fat-Cat Bankers even richer.
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by cybermaldonado on Mar 5, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

well, that was a desperation 3, but it counts the same in the box score

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

game over

great effort, Warriors. I hope Tolliver wasn’t the FIRST OPTION on that final play

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

Good effort by the W's

And good learning for the young guys.

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by worldblee on Mar 5, 2010 7:07 PM PST reply actions  

Great effort

Warriors. And 3rd place in lotto balls is right. Gotta have something to look forward to ather another loss lol

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by GSW9 on Mar 5, 2010 7:09 PM PST reply actions  

haha

Tolliver’s still a 50% 3 pt shooter tonight! His last miss was credited as a long 2

by IQofaWarrior on Mar 5, 2010 7:12 PM PST reply actions  

to be our go to big....

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by dubzfan on Mar 5, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Driving

Curry shoots a high percentage from the line, so maybe he’ll work with him on getting to the rim and potentially the free throw line.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder what area that would be?

 strength and power is what he needs most, he’s pretty good at everything else.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 5, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

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