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Q&A: Aran Smith (NBADraft.net)- Jeremy Lin in the 2010 NBA Draft, NBADraft.net and projections, Judging the quality of a draft class [Part 2 of 2]

Make sure to check out Part I: If the Golden State Warriors got the #1 pick in 2010 NBA Draft..., Derrick Favors + Wes Johnson good "fits" for Warriors, John Wall vs LeBron James

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Golden State of Mind: Do you envision Bay Area hoops product Jeremy Lin getting selected somewhere in the 2010 NBA Draft? What can Lin do to improve his draft stock?

Aran Smith (NBADraft.net): I could see it but I don't think it will happen. Lin is an inspirational story and could find a spot with a team but he's got some major obstacles considering he doesn't really fit a position right now. I see him as more of a 2, and at 6-4 he's undersized. If he can show that he can run the point guard position and defend top level athletes, it would help his stock. He has a fearless mentality and is a good scorer, plus the marketing possibilities, but still dominating the Ivy League isn't the same as dominating the Big East. Plus the seniors are getting squeezed out by all the underclassmen leaving prematurely.


Golden State of Mind: Sites like yours have become the standard that we judge NBA GM's in many ways. You could say you have some part in who we all think is a "safe pick" at a certain spot. Do you feel that you have had some influence on draft night over the years?

Aran Smith (NBADraft.net): I've had scouts tell me that the site does. And yes I do think we have
an influence. How much, exactly, is tough to say. We get a lot of feedback from teams on where we rate players before and after the draft, and we attempt to show both where that general consensus is on players and where we defer from it. Sometimes teams make picks that are well received by their fan bases and sometimes they go out on a limb based on the general consensus. We probably have just as much influence on how picks are perceived or will be perceived by team's fan bases and that in turn factors into a team's decision making.

Straying from the consensus and missing looks a lot worse than going with the consensus and missing in the eyes of a team's fan base. So that has to factor into the decision making process for a GM without job security. Teams respect our work and many (I believe) use our projections as a base, or at minimum their scouts use the site as a
reference point, particularly as the NBA season winds down and the focus shifts toward the draft. I like to think we do a good job of projecting how players will turn out. That's where the real scouting comes in. To me that's a lot more rewarding than projecting how a draft will turn out. We've been projecting the draft with a 2 round
format with mock drafts for the current and following year since the year 2000. In 2003 we projected 16 of the first round picks correctly.


Golden State of Mind: How do you personally judge the quality of a draft class? Is it depth of legit NBA players? Most potential all-stars? Number of potential superstars?

Aran Smith (NBADraft.net): I think it's a combination of those things. Obviously you want to have a one or two potential hall of famers or at least superstars and then more all star level players and non-busts as possible. Having 4-5 or more quality second rounders helps too.... I would take a draft with lots of quality and few busts over one with 2-3 hall of famers and little else, so I guess my preference is depth when comparing drafts. But obviously you need some star power too.

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All of us at GSoM wanted to thank Aran for fielding our questions. Hopefully we can grab him for a hot minute when things get even more hectic in draft land come May and June.

Make sure to keep close tabs on NBADraft.net. The future of the NBA has already been scouted.

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Still don't get the Jeremy Lin love...

One of the few to have appreciated Cap'n Jax. Do well in NC, get that 8th seed!

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by ejdacanay on Apr 16, 2010 8:18 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Well, there’s 11 million Asian-Americans in the US (just 5% of the entire population!), and the Bay Area is the most impacted of these populations, whereby 18.8% of the entire Bay Area population is Asian.

Consistent with the phenomenon, Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress will tell you that he gets as many hits on Jeremy Lin’s profile page as projected lottery picks do.

Jeremy also finished 2nd in the fan voting portion of the Cousy Award.

It is what it is.

Look, if 18.8% of the entire Bay Area were Venezuelans clustered here in the Bay Area, we’d be talking about Greivis Vasquez on a regular basis.

I find it more interesting how people still want to go out of their way to comment about this, amazed as if there were something wrong with people who are interested in Jeremy Lin, or any other Asian player for that matter. Look around you. Nearly every one in five people in your field of vision is of Asian descent. Less than one in one hundred is playing in the NBA.

So yeah, we would probably go nuts for Margaret Cho if she had a semi-decent jumpshot. Welcome to the Bay Area. Welcome to GoldenStateOfMind.

I actually think it’s cool, this aspect of GSoM that makes us unique amongst the other populations of NBA team blogs. You guys don’t?

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by Poor Man's Commish on Apr 16, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I don't...

…have any problem with it, myself, I just hope this isn’t like the Yi Movement where I read people leading up to the draft getting all frothed up and then he turns out unremarkable. That’s nothing specific to Yi, there are draft busts in a wide array of racial types, I’m just talking about main page coverage. But, like I sad, I don’t really care.

by Zack Vank on Apr 16, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t say I had a problem with it. Makes sense that if you’re running a site like this the people who do so have rooting interests, whether its ethnicity or small point guards or whatever. On the other hand, according to your logic — applying the percentage of ethnic populations to subject interest — then the Latino population should be getting a lot more love here. No big deal.

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by Jigglefish on Apr 16, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, according to your logic — applying the percentage of ethnic populations to subject interest — then the Latino population should be getting a lot more love here.

On a side note, I’d personally love to get more Latino hoops perspectives writing for GSoM. Any suggestions? Email us at goldenstwarriors@gmail.com

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by Atma Brother ONE on Apr 16, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes it is because he's Asian

But also because he seems like a good guy. Can’t tell us to stop giving love just because we’re rooting for one of our own.

Yi sucks as a person and a baller.

by yobo on Apr 16, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yi sucks as a person

What makes you say that?

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by Sleepy Freud on Apr 16, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

from sports industry types who knew him in china

he appears to be a total knuckleheaded punk. the sports reporters in china laugh at him because he has no personality in his interviews. no where near the type of person Yao Ming is

by yobo on Apr 16, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno … saying someone “sucks as a person” based on hearsay like this doesn’t particular strike me as “giving love.”

Link?

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by Sleepy Freud on Apr 16, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, it's ridiculous....

I’m persian and i think the persian dude on the Grizzlies sucks and always did. I couldn’t care less what nationality/ethnicity/race a player is. Just as long as he’s good.

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by LostHawkGSW on Apr 16, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah i feel ya

but you gotta admit, it was be pretty clean for you if that persian guy were amazing.. I’m half filipino and i’d flip for any Asian in the NBA who played at the All-star level

…besides yao ming..

Cryogenically freeze me and wake me up when Ellison has made an impact on the team!

by DMJR on Apr 17, 2010 2:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

and in a warriors uni

Cryogenically freeze me and wake me up when Ellison has made an impact on the team!

by DMJR on Apr 17, 2010 2:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

but still dominating the Ivy League isn’t the same as dominating the Big East

He must have forgotten his 25/30 point outbursts against Boston College & UConn.

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by golden_solitude on Apr 16, 2010 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

It's not like those aren't great teams

Neither were in the tournament

The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience.

by dubzfan on Apr 16, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

are*

The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience.

by dubzfan on Apr 16, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’re both in the Big East. “Great teams” is a straw man of your invention.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Apr 16, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

BC and Uconn were not anywhere near where they have been in years past

I wouldn’t qualify them as good teams either. More like very average

The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience.

by dubzfan on Apr 17, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’re both in the Big East. "Good teams" is a straw man of your invention.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Apr 17, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aran, I totally respect your experience in this subject matter...

…but you whiffed on the part about Jeremy not being a point guard.

he doesn’t really fit a position right now. I see him as more of a 2

Perhaps I have more information, since I’ve seen every one of Jeremy’s games since the summer of 2008. That’s a lot of games.

But based on Portsmouth, I’m not the only one saying he’s a point guard or has been a point guard this whole time. Here’s a compendium of quotes from scouts, executives, agents, and other observers…

http://www.dreamleague.org/blog/portsmouth-prospecting-what-they-said-about-jeremy-lin-2/

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by Poor Man's Commish on Apr 16, 2010 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Jeremy drafted or not

A question and observation:

Why are their certain point guards in the NBA that are only be stand still shooters (Steve Kerr, John Paxon etc.) how do those guys get drafted? They don’t seem to have as much pure skill as Jeremy rite?

You can’t compare Yao getting drafted and Lin getting drafted. Even though (now we know) Yao has fantastic skills, it wasn’t a big deal for a big man project that may be a bust getting drafted #1. It happened many times before. The question was if Yao would be an effective NBA player and how long it would take him to do so. Well Yao certainly answered those challenges. Lin is not a big man, but a guard, who in the NBA, they don’t give any excuses for guards. Guards aren’t projects, their expected to either score or lead their teams very much right out of the gate. So in that sense Lin has a tougher road. But you have to admit that Lin is better than Yatuse Tabuse rite (Japanese player can’t rem his name?)

by silee2 on Apr 19, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions  

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