QUICK: Offer Phoenix Suns' fans Brandan Wright for J-Rich and see if they'd do it....

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QUICK: Offer Phoenix Suns' fans Brandan Wright for J-Rich and see if they'd do it. (sarcasm)

Head on over to Bright Side of the Sun and congratulate them on their convincing playoff win.

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Still happy to see JR having fun on the court

Suns fans love him

"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis

by ejdacanay on Apr 21, 2010 12:10 AM PDT reply actions

Seriously, what a great move we made. Just think of all we’ve done with our vaunted “cap flexibility” (sarcasm).

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Apr 21, 2010 6:59 AM PDT reply actions

Hmmm….we’re talking about Phoenix, the type of franchise that lets Joe Johnson walk because they don’t want to pay him, sells picks like Rudy Fernandez for cash, and you really think they wouldn’t have traded away Richardson 3 years ago when he still had 4 years $50M+ left on his contract for Wright? Yeah, I think they would have done that ina heartbeat, and frankly, Wright’s been a decent player in the minutes he’s played, the only reason it looks bad now is because he got hurt. And are you really going to sit here and tell me you knew he was going to get hurt?

by Missing Barry on Apr 21, 2010 7:08 AM PDT reply actions

I have already gone into my reasons for disliking that trade too many times to recount, and “giving love to JRICH” isn’t one of them (well, not one of the main one’s, anyway). That trade made no sense because it was not about making that team better. We had a team that fairly convincingly beat the number one seed, and came within a few missed free throws of seriously contending for the Western Conference title. A case can be made that we were “one player away” from beating Utah (particularly if that one player could defend and rebound a little bit). While Brandan Wright may turn out to be good, generally speaking you do not grab a #8 pick expecting him to make an immediate impact. For as short a window as that team had (given age, health, and contracts), it was really sad to see JRICH given away for basically nothing (in the sense of immediate, tangible results).

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Apr 21, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

I dunno, I have no problem with your disagreement, and I think you have some legitimate points, it just seems to me like there are a bunch of people who won’t even acknowledge what I think are clearly legitimate points of why we think this trade made sense. I see plenty of room to disagree and think it was a bad move while still at least acknowledging there’s another point of view….

by Missing Barry on Apr 21, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh I have no issue at all with acknowledging the other point of view, nor am I so wedded to my stance that I think trading JRICH, in and of itself, was a horrible decision. Indeed, the fact of the matter is that trading him was probably the best path to success: it’s who we traded him for that bothers me (a skinny rookie who no one in their right mind believed would make an immediate impact). The argument that his contract was an albatross is totally reasonable. Likewise, the argument that trading away our “heart” is what sunk us is clearly ill-concieved: we were demonstrably better the season after trading him. However, it is clear to me what that team needed, and we probably could have gotten it for JRICH had ownership been willing to acknowledge how close to greatness we were, while at the same time realizing how slim the margin for error really was.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Apr 21, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

A case can be made that we were "one player away" from beating Utah (particularly if that one player could defend and rebound a little bit).

Hopping that Brandon could give us that “little bit” was the reason to make that trade. Plus there was the thought that we already had a replacment for Richardson in the form of Ellis.

"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."

Frank Zappa

by qin on Apr 21, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Hopping that Brandon could give us that "little bit" was the reason to make that trade. Plus there was the thought that we already had a replacment for Richardson in the form of Ellis.

Neither Montay or BrokenWing were replacements for Jason nor were they the player we needed to get over that hump. Killing the believe by trading it’s heart is just dumb management.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Apr 21, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

You forgot they also gave away Luol Deng and Rajon Rondo. Would have had a great successor to Nash.

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 21, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Forget if they would make the trade. Would we?

"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."

Frank Zappa

by qin on Apr 21, 2010 7:30 AM PDT reply actions

Not interested in an aging two guard whos really

nothing more than a spot up jump shooter. We have better ones already in Morrow and Williams. JRich never could dribble the ball other than off his own foot and if you acutally look at his line form last night he had a ZERO dimes. Not 1 assist? As much as we call Maggette a black hole he at least gets a few dimes. JRICH played a whole game as a guard and has not one assist. How is that even possible?

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by StinkyFingers on Apr 21, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions

Yeah because a one-game sample is the ultimate determinant for how much a player passes...

You do realize that he’s playing next to Steve Nash right? Though it’s not necessarily a bad thing, Nash is one of the most ball-dominant guards in the league; for the Suns there are hardly any made shots that weren’t in Nash’s hands mere moments before the bucket. That’s just how their offense runs, with the primary ball-handler (Nash, and sometimes Dragic) dribbling and dribbling until he finds an open man or look for the score. Everyone else on the offense just looks to score.

To put things in perspective: J-Rich averaged about 3 dimes a game for his career before being traded to Phoenix. After joining the Suns, his role changed to being simply a scorer mostly off of open looks of Nash’s or Dragic’s creations.

by WYK on Apr 21, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs