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Say Goodbye to LeBron James, Cleveland - LeBron 2 New York Knicks this summer

Cleveland. Seriously what can I say? You were lucky to win the 2003 NBA Lottery. You trapped LeBron James in a flyover state for 7 years.

Now the good man can be freed. 

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After the jump a quote that pretty much sums Cleveland up- and more!

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"You like it? You think Cleveland's cool? I never heard anybody say I'm going to Cleveland on vacation. What's so good about Cleveland?"

-- Joakim Noah explaining why CLEVELAND SUCKS [Larry Brown Sports]

Memo to LeBron: Escape from the armpit of America as fast as you can.

Also props to the Boston Celtics fans for the "NEW YORK KNICKS" chants while LeBron was shooting free throws as the Cavs were seeing their season slip away.

Hilarious.

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Last season: LeBron James Talks about the Cavaliers Loss to the Magic... Sporting a NY Cap

Also can we finally shut down the silliness that LeBron's best chance to win is in Cleveland? Give me a break. Surround LeBron with the Golden State D-Leaguers and you've got a contender. He's that good. Any team LeBron plays on is a contender. Do you really think LeBron James can't take the current Knicks cast (which most likely will be much improved this offseason) to the second round? Because that's how far the Cavs went this season.

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As Marv Albert would say...

"YES!"

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Where is LeBron James headed this summer?
He's staying in Cleveland
221 votes
New York Knicks
397 votes
Other (specify in comments)
348 votes

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Funny all the rumors and

people in the know say Chicago. The Knicks they say are 3rd behind Chicage then Miami. Why because the Knicks have no talent, and they need a real coach.

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by StinkyFingers on May 13, 2010 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

The 08 Celtics proved that championships can be bought at any price

they went from the worst team in the East to the best overnight. The same will happen with the Knicks. Lebron + another max deal + David Lee + Danillo Gallinari +Wilson Chandler + Toney Douglas = Finals.

This was going to happen before the Cavs lost to the Celtics. Just think about the fact that Lebron didn’t accept his MVP at Cavs headquarters. He accepted it in Akron to reiterate the fact that his roots are in Akron, not Cleveland.

Seriously, after this off-season, the Cavs might as well be contracted because basketball in that city is over.

by eastbayglory on May 13, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait...

move the cavs to seattle?

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by stingy d on May 14, 2010 5:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

They didn’t buy it, they decimated their team of all their young talent (besides Rondo and Perkins) to trade for Allen and Garnett, then filled the team with Posey and House for the MLE, and a bunch of scrubs with the veteran minimum.

Stephen Curry is the future.
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by GovernorStephCurry on May 14, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Knicks

can’t keep David Lee if they get another max player.

by San Francisco Slim on May 14, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes they can. You can resign your own players at whatever price over the cap

They don’t care about luxury tax. They are planning to sign as many non-knicks as possible. Then sign him.

Still Knicks can basically only afford 2 max players and a MLE. Then they have to fill out roster… So if they get Lebron and Bosh. Assume they keep DLee. They have Gallinari. Who plays PG? Who can they get on the bench? I’d strongly consider Ray Allen or preferably Manu on an MLE BUT I doubt Manu would take an MLE.

they can keep Sergio Rodriguez but is he a starteR? who are free agent PGs? Kyle Lowry might be best bet as he’s awesome defensively and with Gallinari, Lebron, Bosh, Lee, you aren’t looking for much out of your PG except low TOs and defense.

by tafkasam on May 15, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say Chicago

New York doesn’t have enough role player to lure Lebron. Unless they make a big move like signing Bosh or Wade.

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by mykelala01 on May 14, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they let Lee walk, they have room for two max deals. That, probably even more than the glitz and glamour of NYC, is what makes people think they’re the likeliest destination for King James. LeBron + Wade + pretty much anybody makes them frontrunners for a title.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 14, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the perception has shifted

to Chicago being his most likely destination.

by Reverend_Randy on May 14, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess New York became too trendy of a pick.

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by Rated-R Superstar on May 15, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

to Chicago being his most likely destination.

 why would Chicago be any better than GoldenState? If we had lebron we’d be as good as chicago with lebron.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on May 15, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably

but we don’t have capspace. He’d either have to sign for the MLE or we’d have to trade large amounts of talent for him.

by Reverend_Randy on May 15, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good Night, Sweet King

"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis

by ejdacanay on May 13, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I voted Knicks

With Heat being a darkhorse.

New York’s fanbase will be a big draw and he loves the culture there. They have the ability to pick 2 max contracts with LeBron being one, I’m sure they’d like his opinion on who to bring in if he signs early.

"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis

by ejdacanay on May 13, 2010 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

If the Knicks had any sense

they’d waive Eddy Curry and get a 3rd big name free agent

by fremontfan1 on May 13, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Simply waiving Eddy Curry isn’t going to free up cap space.

by WYK on May 13, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. This isn’t the NFL where there are almost no penalties to releasing players. Waiving a player in the NBA only frees up a roster space, but the cap hit from their contract still remains. If the Knicks waive Curry, all they’ll be doing is getting his bloated body out of their sight, but not his bloated contract.

by WYK on May 13, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think, but i'm not certain

that he can be bought out. and THAT would create the extra 11 mill. but i’m not totally certain on that.

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by stingy d on May 14, 2010 5:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

The amount of the buyout would get pro-rated over the remaining years of the contract, and counted against the cap. The only space a buyout would create is the difference between his current annual salary and the pro-rated amount of the buyout. Unless Eddy Curry’s a complete fool or the most generous professional athlete of all time, the terms of his hypothetical buyout wouldn’t be likely to create much cap flexibility for the Knicks in the immediate term.

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by Sleepy Freud on May 14, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh ok

yea, eddy already has been saying he won’t take a penny less.

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by stingy d on May 14, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

But, Eddy could be traded for assets

What if the Warriors land John Wall, so that they definitely would want to trade Monta? They could get rid of Monta’s contract for Eddy’s expiring and a 1st (if the Knicks have any left) or something. Or the Knicks could take a chance on Arenas and trade Eddy and spare parts for him. I’m sure there are other possabillites.

 Knicks could have LeBron/Bosh/Arenas/Gallo with a really good coach who would use LeBron in sensible way – get him easier scores. You’re talking championship.

by San Francisco Slim on May 14, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Such a proposed trade wouldn’t be for Curry. The Warriors might just cut him. The idea would be to use his expiring contract so that the Warriors could unload Monta’s long term contract. The juice would be some other asset like a 1st round pick (I realize the Knicks don’t have many left). But my point is that Curry’s contract has value.

by San Francisco Slim on May 15, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shut up Atma

We all know your really a Knicks fan. I hope Lebron goes anywhere else but New York, the Knicks and their fanbase are a bunch of losers

by fremontfan1 on May 13, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

as a new yorker

i don’t totally resent that

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by stingy d on May 14, 2010 5:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

As a New Yorker (yes, I’m coming to terms with it), I’d take back the jab at Atma Bro, but agree with the rest. Remind me again why we should root for LeBron to abandon the hard-luck, small-market team from the state in which he grew up to move to the city of $$$, Wall Street criminals, Donald Trump, and George Steinbrenner? To a team, no less, that over the past 10-15 years has spent its money about as unwisely as a professional team can? The Knicks richly deserve to suck for a while for their (i.e. Isiah’s) stupidity and profligacy. They certainly don’t deserve to be rewarded for the stupidity with the best player in the NBA.

I mean, they probably do deserve some credit for cleaning up Isiah’s messes, but still … inexorable migration of talent from small to big markets is one of the things that sucks about most professional sports leagues in the world (MLB, e.g.). The fact that in the NBA and NFL small-market teams like the Spurs, Cavs, Magic, Saints and Colts can retain their talent and compete with the big boys from NY and LA is a great, commendable thing.

If you’re a Knick fan, obviously you root for LeBron to come to New York. I would kill to see LeBron on the mismanaged Warriors. But as an impartial observer, I don’t see the particular appeal of “LBJ2NYC.” I’d rank this well below the Yi, Singh, and Justin Lin Movements™ in the annals of Great GSoM campaigns.

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by Sleepy Freud on May 14, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

bet

whatever though. don’t act like big wigs in the bay area (or small markets, ie. major us cities) don’t make money the same way wall street dirtbags do…. you’re not even talking about anything. you’re just spreading a foul odor.

i any case, why do the knicks deserve to suck? because they were managed exceptionally poorly? by that logic, the warriors deserve to suck too. i dunno, i’m not really interested in starting an argument, but don’t act like you’re better than someone else, it’s unbecoming.

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by stingy d on May 14, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

whatever though. don’t act like big wigs in the bay area (or small markets, ie. major us cities) don’t make money the same way wall street dirtbags do…. you’re not even talking about anything. you’re just spreading a foul odor.

Haha, good point. I live in NY, and for the most part love it. I’m just trying to stand up for the little guy.

i any case, why do the knicks deserve to suck? because they were managed exceptionally poorly? by that logic, the warriors deserve to suck too.

I already admitted as much.

don’t act like you’re better than someone else, it’s unbecoming.

I don’t think I said anything about myself. I do think there’s something a little unjust about a team that has made such terrible decisions for so long ending up with the best player in the world. I mean, yeah … it’s not that different from a bad, dumb team lucking into a top draft pick, but that seems a bit fairer since the top pick is somewhat random. But yeah, in the end I’m talking less about what’s “right” or “fair” than about pure rooting interest. Atma Bro wants the Knicks to get LeBron ‘cos he likes them. I don’t want same ‘cos I don’t like them. It’s not really much more complicated than that. Sorry if I made it seem that way. Sometimes I tend to babble. ;-)

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by Sleepy Freud on May 14, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok

i guess i read some of that in the wrong tone.

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by stingy d on May 14, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

and another thing.

i’m not rooting for lebron to come to the knicks. i’m just not rooting against it. and if my team, that has SUCKED for nearly a decade, didn’t create the cap space to make a run at signing arguably the best player in basketball, i’d be pissed. i’m just glad that new york basketball can have a new era, no matter what happens.

likewise, if the warriors (or even the pacers, who i despise) sucked for yeeears and started to turn it around or had a chance to turn it around, i would be glad for that! and similarly, the cavs sucked since forever, got this guy lebron james and have pretty much been terrific ever since, and its great for the game no matter how you slice it!

high level competition and rivalry between teams is really what makes the game so exciting. when basketball is played skillfully its artistic. this weird attack on a fanbase over something that they cannot affect is preposterous. yr playin yaself!

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by stingy d on May 14, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am guessing that if LeBron goes to the Knicks his national"Brand"will suffer verses staying in the hometown and looking like a "good guy".

Unless of course after his move the Knicks become wildly successfull with a championship or 2, but I do not believe that will happen so it will be a bad move in the end for him. With the nets he would look a little bit more like the franchise savior/working class Bronx guy but partying with Russians and NY rappers will spoil his images as well.

Of course all is forgivin if he wins a championship/if so he is a genius, if not he is a loser and a bad guy for moving to NY. If he really wants a future he should move to Oky.

by Only In Fairfax on May 14, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well… crap. Now we will never hear the end of how Kobe is “better” than LeBron just because of the rings. While that’s happening, someone might even start claiming that Adam freaking Morrison is “better” than LeBron for the same reason. Ugh.

by WYK on May 13, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Adam Morrison has a better 'stache imo

"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis

by ejdacanay on May 13, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

close paren.

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by dont_stop_believin' on May 14, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The best chance for the King to get a ring is

the Heat. Once they re-sign Wade, Riley will have LeBron, Wade and Beasley. Chicago isn’t too far behind with Rose and Joaquin, although we all know how Joaquin and LeBron are good buddies.

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by Scooter Ellis on May 13, 2010 8:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Why? Chicago is deeply flawed

No outside shooters, no post game. Lebron won’t fix either thing. They’d be better but still not a great fit

by tafkasam on May 15, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

They do have a draft pick

maybe they could try to go after Xavier Henry. He’s supposed to be a good shooter, and some boards have him out of the lottery.

by Reverend_Randy on May 15, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

I don’t like teams who can’t go inside or shoot outside. Playoff’s become slower and defensive. And it’s easy to shut down a team who cannot shoot outside or pound it inside.

IMO if NYC can land Lebron, Bosh and somehow Ray Allen or Manu, theres your title….

by tafkasam on May 15, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoah, whoah GSoM- is this a joke? YOu want Lebron to go to Cleveland? You don’t hate the Knicks? Theyre horrible and deserve to be horrible, period.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 13, 2010 9:01 PM PDT reply actions  

You’re misinterpreting the poll question. It’s asking where LeBron will go, not where GSoM wants him to go.

by WYK on May 13, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s staying. He is staying in Cleveland.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 13, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other: Dubs.

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by OtherKid on May 13, 2010 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Dubs Baby

sign n trade LeBron(or Wade) for Monta, Biedrins, and whatever other players to fill that up yee

PG- Curry
SG- Buike
SF- LeBron
PF- Randolph
C- Cousins

MAKE IT HAPPEN

in the words of biggie…“it was all a dream”….

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by 9ersDubsGiantSharks on May 13, 2010 9:28 PM PDT reply actions  

You know the Cavs won’t take a deal without Curry in it.

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by Yoyo on May 13, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is a free agent and we can just try and move our big contracts in Monta and Maggs around.

by DubsFan408 on May 13, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now we have Dubs fans quoting Biggie Smalls…
Is this NorCal or LA?

What happened to pride, GSoM.

We get a huge break with Curry, and now we want to go against ourselves.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 13, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

^^^^^^^^

i hope you get this kite

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by stingy d on May 14, 2010 5:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Biggie is a New Yorker…

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by Yoyo on May 14, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That Cleveland team has maxed out

He should go to NYK or NJ. What can the Cavs really give him? It’s not like they can go sign or trade with anyone. And there rotations are bad. Why does Z even play anymore? JJ Hickson should be playing a lot more for them like how Ibaka does in OKC. Jamario Moon could have helped a lot as well, also Shaq should have been used more. He still has game and can easily put up 15 if given the chance.

NJ can offer him TWill, Lee, Lopez a top 4 pick, Jay Z (lol), and Harris. NYK can give him another superstar through FA, a coach that can let him run, potentially other nice FA pickups (guys like Felton for example), Danilo, Chandler and I think Douglas will end up being good. I think he will stay but it’d be best for him if he left

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

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by dubzfan on May 13, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's be realistic

Right now Lebron going to the warriors is the most likely outcome. Curry will become best friends with bronbron and convince him to sign with the dubs. During that time, wade and bosh see how great the warriors will be, and also sign with the dubs for less money than they are paying Devean George. Here is the outcome:

PG – Curry
SG – Wade
SF – Lebron
PF – Bosh
C – CJ Watson (he grows 2 feet during the offseason and develops Dwight Howard-like skills)

Devean George and Chris Hunter are the only men coming off the bench. Everyone else is injured. Turiaf will dress for every game so that there are 8 players, but is only healthy enough to cheer, too injured to play. Also, all the starters develop the stamina to play 47 minute games each night.

Warriors.

by jonathannn on May 13, 2010 9:44 PM PDT reply actions  

C – CJ Watson (he grows 2 feet during the offseason and develops Dwight Howard-like skills)

Why do we need CJ to do the impossible when we could just trade him for Dwight Howard straight-up? I remember Orlando had a lot of interest in him.

by WYK on May 13, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's be realistic

 If Lebron’s really got a crush on Stef maybe it could happen? The only problem is how Nellie could screw up Lebron by making him play outside the paint at all times, even his carrying the ball for 3 steps could not get him close enough to score in that case. If Ellison buys the team and throws away the luxury tax book I could see him luring Lebron here for redemption? I think a little GSofM could return the king to his throne?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on May 13, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Lebron’s really got a crush on Stef maybe it could happen?

Pretty sure he just had a crush on New York where he thought he was headed.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 14, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only problem is how Nellie could screw up Lebron by making him play outside the paint at all times

Hmmm how so? If anything, I see Nellie playing LeBron at the PF spot often, probably playing inside the paint.

by DubsFan408 on May 14, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should we have Joe Johnson or Amare coming in as 6th man?

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by StinkyFingers on May 14, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking Kobe on an MLE

Need bench scoring to make up for loss of Maggette

by tafkasam on May 15, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The New York Knicks chant...

…was actually Bill Simmons’ brainchild – he created a Twitter account for people to post their own chant ideas.

I made one for the Warriors for next year (http://twitter.com/DubzChants) – everyone should join and, when the season starts, start posting chant ideas for whoever steps foot in the Oracle.

by KingBuzzo on May 13, 2010 10:04 PM PDT reply actions  

M V P

Let me throw a bomb into the mix, there has always been a lot of Kobe and The Lakers haters but the true measure of a MVP is delivering to your TEAM leadership when needed not moping and Chanpionships which Kobe has done. The M V P resides in L A.

by ashton89 on May 13, 2010 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow

I’ve never heard anyone claim this before. What makes your thought process so original and thought-provoking?

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by the guy on May 14, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 14, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by mykelala01 on May 14, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh

I’m 100% sure that the MVP is a regular season award.

by Reverend_Randy on May 14, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Completely douchebaggy post

No class, what so ever.

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by Max_in_Missouri on May 13, 2010 10:09 PM PDT reply actions  

agree on the lack of class...

ragging on the state of Ohio and city of Cleveland is just not called for…also, can we get a Warrior fan running this site instead of a Knickerblogger? Sorry to ruin your hopes and dreams but Lebron will go to Chicago over New York.

by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on May 14, 2010 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

To Ellison, winning is priceless.

Money can tame the egos of a front court consisting or LEBRON, BOSH, and AMARE. CURRY and ELLIS playing nice in the back. Merry Christmas to you to Mr. Ellison.

by IRONxMIKE on May 14, 2010 1:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Cleveland can keep Lebron

if they empty the bank for Phil Jackson

by racsan on May 14, 2010 2:56 AM PDT reply actions  

interesting

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by stingy d on May 14, 2010 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

if it makes you feel better, atma b1

i’m a knicks fan that can’t get enough of the warriors. tim hardaway got me hooked on nba basketball back when i was a little me. and our teams have similar trajectories. and i think we’d take monta, so let’s rap.

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by stingy d on May 14, 2010 5:56 AM PDT reply actions  

New Jersey may be the one

If they have john wall – man that would be scary.
A legit C in Lopez, future top 5 pg in the league, best player in basketball at the 3 spot
Plus being in Brooklyn would be hot.
 I hope he goes to Nets if he goes anywhere
But mostly I hope he goes back to Cavs – those fans who have suffered soooo much deserve better than this.
I put alot of that loss last night on the Celtic just playing amazing bball, more of a factor than LeBron IMO.
But, cavs need a lot of help and definitely a new coach. when they tuned him out at the end when he was screaming for them to foul was embarrasing to watch.

by tjmax on May 14, 2010 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

future top 5 pg in the league,

Wall, great as he seems to be, is gonna take a while to develop. LeBron will turn 26 next season. Why would he have the slightest interest in squandering a big chunk of the 4-5 years remaining of his playing prime while he waits for Wall to flower? Lopez is a’ight, but If he were anything like a legit star, his team wouldn’t be one of the worst teams in NBA history. Plus … New Jersey may be one of the few states in the union that’s as lame as Ohio.

If the new Brookyn arena were already built, with Jay-Z’s luxury box all decked out, and at least one legit NBA star in the fold, I could see the Nets being a prime destination. As it is, the Nets’ timing sucks. And as the Celtics will tell you, when it comes to migration of talent, timing is everything.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 14, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed that I don't think the Nets are a likely destination

But disagree about Lopez not being a star. His stats say otherwise (.570 TS%, 50% from the floor 80% from the line, to go with all the counting stats) and if you look at the roster, the rest of the team really was that bad. Devin Harris is a 3rd piece at best, and everyone else on that roster is a bench player in the NBA. I feel pretty comfortable that the Nets being so terrible had little to do with Lopez and everything to do with a bunch of bench players rounding out the starting 5. He isn’t a superstar on the LeBron-Wade “I can carry a bunch of scrubs to a playoff berth” level, but I think he’s the type of piece that can put a decent team over the top, a la Pau Gasol.

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by the guy on May 14, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Star” is a vague term. Lopez’s numbers look pretty similar to those of Antawn Jamison at his peak. He’s a very efficient shooter, but a subpar rebounder and (anecdotally) a pretty lame, sluggish defender. If you flip him with Dwight Howard, a truly dominant big, I think the 47 game gap between Orlando and NJ closes considerably.

I don’t think a legit star, of the caliber that LeBron would want to pair himself with in his quest for Ring #1, lets his team lose 70 games, regardless of how poor his supporting cast is. Hey LeBron … you wanna play with Bosh/Wade/Amare in NYC, or Brook Lopez in New Jersey?

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 14, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do see what you’re saying, but to compare him to the best center in the league is a little unfair. In fact, the other guys you mention are much better comparisons. You could just as easily be talking about Amare in your description of Lopez (efficient shooter, supbar rebounder, etc.). I just think that if the rest of the situation is right (billionaire owner, buddys with the minority owner, access to the NY market, maybe they hire Calipari?) Lopez could be just as much of a Robin to LeBron’s Batman as Amare or Bosh.

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by the guy on May 14, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

The other guys

Not named Wade. If I’m LeBron, and I can play with Wade somewhere, anywhere, I’m doing it.

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by the guy on May 14, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lopez could be just as much of a Robin to LeBron’s Batman as Amare or Bosh.

That’s probably true, for the most part, but somehow I doubt LeBron sees it that way. Lopez just isn’t in the NBA star “fraternity” yet, and his early results have been quite dominant enough to earn any kind of a special dispensation.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 14, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

*haven’t been quite dominant enough

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 14, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely fair enough.

Although it’s hard to assume anything about what LeBron’s thinking these days. I do think the Nets with their copious amounts of cap room will sign at least one of the big name free agents, and Lopez will be better for it.

"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug

by the guy on May 14, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

If LeBron is leaving Cleveland

and if the Nets land John Wall, they are definitely in the mix. Robin Lopez (22) Wall (19), Terrance Williams (20) and whatever they get for Devin Harris, that team could be like Oklahoma City, with Lebron James, in a couple of years, playing in NYC (Brooklyn). Not that Lebron decides to go there, but they can make a good pitch.

Interesting how so many of Lebron’s suitors (Cleveland, Chicago, New Jersey, Clippers). And Miami is offering to change coaches to get him (Pat Riley).

by San Francisco Slim on May 14, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many of Lebron’s suitors are looking for new coaches. I assume that would be part of their pitch, that Lebron could help with that selection.

by San Francisco Slim on May 14, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correction

“I feel pretty comfortable SAYING that the Nets…”

"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug

by the guy on May 14, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't say Lopez was a star

I said he was a legit center. He may be an allstar though down the road in the leastern conference. Centers in general aren’t very good anywhere (minus a couple exceptions).
as for wall – tyreke and curry had pretty good rookie seasons. Wall has been getting prepped for NBA for years – he is gonna have a great first year – just like Rose did.
Plus, with the new owner wanting to make a splash – he may throw more $$$ at LeBron than any other team not called Cavs. Whereas NY has to give money to BOTH LeBron and another big name star to make it worth it for him to go there.
Finally, having lived in NY for many years – being in NJ doesn’t really limit the opportunities to enjoy the NY culture and fan base.
Again, I want him to return to the Cavs but I wouldn’t be so quick to discredit NJ

by tjmax on May 14, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

We'll have to see

How this whole Calipari thing plays out. It could be a smokescreen, but I’m willing to believe that some team has to be ready to pull the trigger if they think it will bring LeBron around. Chicago does seem the most likely place for this, as they need a new coach and already have a Calipari favorite in Rose. The Cavs are candidates to bring in Calipari to keep LeBron as well, as Mike Brown is almost assuredly out. Regardless, I really hope LeBron doesn’t go to NYK. NY fans are so freaking arrogant, I couldn’t stand them having something else to crow about. Just imagine Jets fans and Yankees fans with the best player in the league on their basketball team. I shudder just thinking about it.

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by the guy on May 14, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Everyone is talking about Lebron and Bosh, but if I were Lebron, the guy I’d most want to play with would be CP3. Knicks can afford two max contracts, and you’d have to think David Lee would take a pay cut to win 10 championships with those two guys. How about this:

1. CP3
2. Anyone
3. Lebron
4. David Lee
5. Anyone

That’s utterly ridiculous.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on May 14, 2010 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree that they should really try to hold onto Lee. I love that lineup, though this one works too…

Anyone
Wade
James
Lee
Anyone

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 14, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even better

Me
Wade
James
Lee
1 of my lucky friends

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by Atma Brother ONE on May 14, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

what about

anyone
gallinari
james
lee
stoudemire

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by stingy d on May 15, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

...

?

twitter.com/aighttho
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by stingy d on May 15, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lebron to the Bay!!!

If only…..

Take my bags, not my top 3 pick!
"Winning is not enough. All others must lose." - Larry Ellison

by Badly Browned on May 14, 2010 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Delonte West V Lebron James

You guys hear the rumor about Delonte West bangin none other than the Ms. Gloria James, Lebron’s mom? And Lebron finding out about it after game 4? Seems way too far off the wall, but if it’s true, Lebron is definitely going to be a different dude for a while hahahah

by Essential on May 14, 2010 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

No way.

Please post a link to something that substantiates this so I can laugh about it for the rest of the day.

"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug

by the guy on May 14, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTH!

Stephen Curry is the future.
We need to save this planet. Go Green, recycle, ride public transportation, use cantines. Anything you can do!

by GovernorStephCurry on May 14, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

the rumor about Delonte West bangin none other than the Ms. Gloria James, Lebron’s mom? And Lebron finding out about it after game 4?

 Why would that bother Lebron? If she’s happy he should be happy?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on May 15, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about this:

Can Larry Ellison buy the Warriors already – and bring LBJ to the Bay?? – is that a possibility? anybody?
dam – i guess not – BUT

WE BELIEVE!

by Razzmataz on May 14, 2010 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

How about this:

  Makes perfect sense to me. A new rich owner, an experienced winning record coach, a young highly promising point guard, a sweet climate and welcoming social scene, and great fans? The perfect spot for Lebron to show off his talents and to prove he’s a winner. I’m sure we’d attract the other pieces of the ring winning puzzle once the league found out Lebron was coming here.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on May 15, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont see the point of him leaving unless its to miami..

honestly i dont see Chicago being that much better then Cleveland is now with lebron. lebron and rose have similar play styles they are both slashers, and the primary ball handlers on their team. they can both drive and kick but i dont think either of them have a good enough jumper to take advantage of the others slashing skills. i think the same thing about miami with dwade. wade isnt a very good 3 point shooter at all. i think he could be a better perimeter shooter if he had someone to share the ball with.. most of the time i see dwade taking 3’s is when the shot clock is about to expire or in someones face. if lebron could set him up more i think dwade would develop into a good outside shooter. if they could split the ball handling duties i think they would be one of the best combinations in nba history.
if lebron isnt going to be playing with another superstar somewhere i really dont see him leaving cleavland. the cavs are basically set up like the magic, lebron and dwight command the double teams and the rest of the team spreads the floor and waits to get open threes. right now cleveland is set up perfectly for him to win a championship if he cant get it done its nobodies fault but his.

by mekanikal on May 15, 2010 12:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Baron and Monta

worked well together, and LeBron is a better shooter than Baron was.
He leaves Cleveland because Joke, Rose and Deng are better than Mo, Varejao and Jamison.

by Reverend_Randy on May 15, 2010 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

So I guess LeBron's vacation stop is done in Cleveland...time to go to work in NY?

Will LeBron have money printed with his Mug on the Bill? That would be cool.

Opinions are like A--holes, everyones got one.

by aPacificChief on May 15, 2010 5:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Cleveland Cavaliers management has no one toblame except Danny Ferry if Lebron leaves

For 4 seasons now, Lebron has been a bonafide superstar. As well all know that is the hardest commodity to find in basketball. He’s had atleast 4 years where Lebron has been good enough to surround him with a championship worthy team and has NOT. Cleveland has become second most popular destination in NBA (behind Lakers), something that cannot be overlooked. As warriors fans we know how hard it is to get free agents. Ferry never had that problem. Ferry had an owner willing to pay WHATEVER (he lost 20 million last year) to put a winner on the floor. As Warriors fans, we are envious. Finally he should have fired Mike Brown years ago as he proved himself to simply be a below average NBA coach. Yet Ferry didn’t.

In my opinion Ferry winning GM of the year was a joke, because being able to pull together a winning team around a guy like LeBron especially when your owner is willing to pay whatever price, should not be hard

by tafkasam on May 15, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

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