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Like it or not, Greg Monroe is our guy

Being a Warrior fan has led to love this time of year.  The NBA playoffs, the combine and the coming draft.  I cherish it less only to March Madness.  As a huge college basketball and fan I’ve spent considerable time watching the draft prospects play and know very well, most of their qualities off the top of my head.  I’ve recently watched every minute of the draft combine, read and contributed many post on this here site about who our W’s should draft with the #6 pick (assuming we keep it).  While there can be a case made for many players, I think this draft is a pretty simple choice for our front office.

 

It’s clearly a 5 player draft so we have to hold hope we get lucky again and our guy drops to us.  Who is that guy?  Apparently Curry said he wants Wes Johnson, end of discussion. Although, I’d be happy with any of the top five picks in our lap.  Assuming that doesn’t happen the W’s will most likely draft Greg Monroe. 

 

I know, I’m not in love with him either but I’m not convinced with anyone outside the top 5.  Good points have been made for Aminu, I think could also be made about Udoh (defense and rebounding, passing & ball handling) however, there is no sure thing.  After chewing away at all the pros and cons, Monroe makes the most sense to me for many reasons. 

 

First of all he’s big.  We desperately need big men.  If history is any indication we’ll have at least 2 of our current big men go down this year with injury.  We need to stock up.  Can we get a better big men than Monroe out side the draft, and if so, at what cost?  He’s a true 6’11” @ 250 pounds.  That’s similar size to Goose and Ronny and he’ll be a rookie.  Will he be able to add 20lbs of muscle to his frame?  If so, he’ll be pretty beasty.

Better yet, he could potentially play next to either of them.  Giving us a respectable front line (as far as size goes).  Playing with Beidrins, he’d compliment his rebounding with offense.  Ronny would compliment his offense, with defense.  We’d have 3 big men each with a different skill set and all pretty good at passing the rock.  Can you conceive Monroe on the high post feeding Beidrins on the low post or another player cutting to the hoop?  Offensively it should work very nicely.  We could use more passing on this team….hint to Ellis and Maggette.  The point is, he’s a versatile big man who has the size to play center or the skill to play PF.  This gives us a bigger, more adjustable front line and correct me if I’m wrong, but we’re more in need of a C/PF than another PF/SF or a SF/SG, right?  We’ll be better suited to adjust our line-up to our opponents.   If Sac takes Cousins, we’ll be facing him, Griffin, Gasol, Bynum, Thompson, Kaman, Amare, Oden, Aldridge, just to name a few, each 4 times a year.

 

Defensively he’s not going to stop any of those guys.  But, who is?  He’s probably not in this draft class but, he’s probably not any worse than what we have.  In fact, adding another big body should only help us in our efforts to control the paint.  He certainly can’t be worse than Beidrins defensively.

 

Consider this, when have we ever had the opportunity to draft a player his size with his skill?  Randolph was raw, Wrights is not near his size, Beidrins was a project, POB no comment, Diagu, Foyle, no, no, no.  Webber and Joe Smith were higher picks ……do you start to get the picture?  Sure he needs to improve but typically most draft prospects do, especially big men.  He already has a good start and he’s still young.  He exhibited significant improvement already from his freshmen to sophomore year.  He might just keep going.

 

I know he’s not the sexy pick.  I’m not thrilled about him.  But, don’t see myself getting too excited about anyone out of the top five.  It seems to be pot luck from 6-20.  There will be a lot of hit and misses so from the limited info we have I think we’d be foolish to pass on Monroe.  He’s not as athletic or spectacular as we’d like but, paired with a defensive, athletic PF and maybe it works.  Could Randolph be that guy?  We already have a couple athletic PF’s who can run and jump.  Will Monroe be dropping them dimes?  I think so.  Last year I drafted a post as to why the W’s will draft Steph Curry.  This year I’ll finish my post the same.  Like it our not, Monroe is probably our guy. 

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I agree we will end up with him

But I still pray for Cousins to fall to us than us trading up somehow and getting Paul George. I don’t dislike the idea of Monroe, it’s just not my preference/hope

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by dubzfan on May 25, 2010 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

By George you have a serious man crush

Are you his agent? Your posting George all over like its your own personal graffiti

by recashflow on May 25, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

what if

he is Paul George…dun dun duuuuuuuunnn

by Dr. Orpheus on May 25, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

I just really think he will be the best SF of this class (if ET is a SG)

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by dubzfan on May 25, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just really think he will be the best SF of this class (if ET is a SG)

Wes Johnson and Aminu are probably going to be SF’s, too.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 25, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s possible he could be a SG too.

by Balance on May 25, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too me Wes will be a nice player and a good piece

Decent starter great 6th man. Aminu will be one of 3 things; a huge bust, a all star or a defensive specialist. I think he will be the defensive stopper. I don’t see his offensive game really translating at all

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by dubzfan on May 25, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

a huge bust, a all star or a defensive specialist.

I don’t think Aminu has a low floor- but let’s be realistic. Turner has a much higher floor than anyone. At the very least he’d be the 2nd best player on a championship team. But Aminu, as a bust, would be a defensive specialist that goes after loose balls, rebounds the ball, and can hit the occasional three. His ceiling is extremely high. Perhaps as high as Randolph’s, or around that.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 25, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Randolph has the fire

He can see it in his play and demeanor. I have to give AR the higher ceiling because of that.

The great ones want it bad. Aminu might show it. AR has shown it in glimpses already.

by JSML on May 26, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

But he looks like an alien.

by caseycheesecake on May 26, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

"can hit the occasional three. "

No he can’t..

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by dubzfan on May 27, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

He shot pretty well in the drills compared to others with supposed 3 point range.

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by GovernorStephCurry on May 28, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really know squat about this guy ..

But reading scouting reports and checking some youtube highlights, he has NO right hand at all, doesn’t look to score frequently enough in the post, too pass friendly, not very athletic and is an average defender…..

by Potential on May 25, 2010 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

He does rebound on the defensive end. We need that badly.

“Monroe was the 26th best defensive rebounder in college this season, up from 430th last year. The only likely first-round pick with a better defensive rebounding rate than Monroe was Cole Aldrich at 25.7 percent versus Monroe’s 25.2. (That’s an extra rebound for Aldrich every 200 opponent misses.) The only second-round prospects higher than Monroe are Morehead State’s Kenneth Faried (tops in the nation at 36.7 percent) and Keith Benson of Oakland (26). Monroe was a better defensive rebounder this season than DeMarcus Cousins, Ekpe Udoh, Hassan Whiteside, Patrick Patterson, Derrick Favors, Gani Lawal, Larry Sanders, Ed Davis — all of ’em. "

by JSML on May 25, 2010 8:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, but Aminu was the best offensive rebounder in the country. Hard to think Monroe’s “passive game” could help. But I hate the passive label. People love to put that on Monroe just because he doesn’t like to take over games very much. He isn’t really active or good defensively, but he’s skilled.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 25, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

Aminu=hustle man, poorer shooting Michael Pietrus…isn’t really worth a top 8 pick IMO, he would be great if the whole game was in transition and he could dunk it everytime (Shawn Marion is his celing) I’ll dare any of you say this guy could be Scottie Pippen…one of the 50 greatest

by Brothaplease09 on May 25, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's also more athletic than Pietrus

and longer, and a great rebounder.

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by Reverend_Randy on May 26, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

poorer shooting Michael Pietrus…isn’t really worth a top 8 pick IMO, he would be great if the whole game was in transition and he could dunk it everytime (Shawn Marion is his celing)

I can’t imagine anyone but Wes Johnson becoming Mikael Pietrus, and how can you compare anyone but Johnson to Marion… Have you watched Aminu play? I did. He seemes fine on offense but his shot’s form looked horrible. Now it seems just fine. Aminu has the ability to slash pretty well and rebounds at a pretty high rate, especially offensively, and he’s the best defender in the class.
And on top of that, he’s oversized for his position, could be the best athlete in the draft, and is coachable. Those are things you can’t teach. Then again, Monroe has a lot.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 26, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just question Aminu’s basketball IQ, and overall game (not athleticism), it bothers me that he’d be a small forward and can’t driblle the ball (make a legitament NBA move to the basket). These are things that should come natural. Why does he need a dribbling coach and avoid dribbling workouts at the draft camp?

by Brothaplease09 on May 26, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does he need a dribbling coach and avoid dribbling workouts at the draft camp?

His slashing move was his go-to-move. It’s not like people are going to dare him to dribble. He’s explosive enough to beat his man easily.
And he did take part in dribbling drills. He “looked fluid, […] taking only three dribbles from one side of the court to the other”.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 26, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Catching a rebound on one end, Aminu looked completely natural putting the ball on the floor and taking it for a lay-up on the other end, doing it in just three dribbles every time, giving you an idea how much ground he is capable of quickly covering.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 27, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Johnson reminds me of Josh Childress.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 26, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aminu has been definied as a “hustle player” who plays with a “high motor”.
nuff said.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 26, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is my point. Aminu would probably end up the best possible match-up for Durant.
He’d be our best bet at SF to keep Durant off the boards, aerynd he’d be our best bet to put on Durant. Those arms are very, very long. Aminu’s a beast, literally.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 25, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Durant would drop 40 on Aminu...

Durant led the league in scoring fellas, he’s unstoppable one on one, your case is your telling me Aminu will contain Durant, impossible. The only way Durant gets contained is if he has a bad shooting night(his own doing)…period

by Brothaplease09 on May 26, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great points. When we play OKC, let’s not bother guarding Durant at all.

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by Sleepy Freud on May 26, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

i see the sarcasm but brothers point is valid…… It’s absurd to assume an undrafted rookie would even slow him down at all.

by Balance on May 26, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

an undrafted rookie

?

I don’t think anyone’s expecting Aminu to shut down or even slow down Kevin Durant right out of the gate. At the same time, his combo of length, athleticism, lateral quickness, and defensive intensity gives him the potential, down the road, to match up defensively with freakish small forwards like Durant. This is something that can’t be said for anyone on our current roster.

Everyone knows Kevin Durant is a stud, probably the most fearsome scorer in the league. Because of this, the Warriors should abandon all pretense of ever trying to guard him? That’s the implication of Brotha’s comment. The comment was pointless, trollish and dumb, like 95% of the crap he posts here.

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by Sleepy Freud on May 26, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing I'd like to abandon

is having Monta guard him.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 26, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dont mean to sound corny but...

Basketball is a team sport and it takes 5 players to accomplish things. Not one person is going to dramatically change the whole mind set/ rebounding aspect of the Warriors. Collectively, everyone is going to have to hold their own.

by Spee-D on May 25, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm simply saying that

we already have great NBA rebounders and that Monroe adds nothing there. He would take away from our rebounding if he started in place of one of them.

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by Reverend_Randy on May 26, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not one person is going to dramatically change the whole mind set/ rebounding aspect of the Warriors

Serge Ibaka and Lamar Odom make a huge difference. And Odom makes a better contribution because Gasol isn’t a big-time rebounder at PF, and Durant can play the SF with Ibaka at PF.
Likewise, Maggette at SF takes away defense and rebounding- two things we desperately need. Aminu at SF would give us a rebounding edge as well as guard the other team’s best player, theoretically. That’s a huge upgrade from Maggette, and with Monroe not being the best player defensively, is that a uge upgrade from Randolph/Wright?

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 26, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maggette is a good rebounder isn’t he? Have you looked at his number?

by Balance on May 26, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gasol is a great rebounder, what are you talking about?

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by GovernorStephCurry on May 26, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea how you guys would get Johnson

but I think he would be a great fit for the Warriors

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 25, 2010 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Love to have Wes

We’ll have to trade with Minnesota. No idea how that could happen but Minnesota is looking to trade their pick.

by JSML on May 25, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could you imagine the insane lineups the Warriors could throw out there

Hell they could even go big with Wes on the court at SG or go conventional or small. Personally I kind of want my Kings to get Wes but at the same time, wow he could be something special with the Warriors

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by wallywagon11 on May 25, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow he could be something special with the Warriors

I’m all for the Wes vs Aminu wars.

I don’t think we’ll get monroe.
I don’t think Wes will drop past Sac.
I do think Aminu is our guy.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 25, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah so far it looks like either monroe or aminu for the Warriors

So let’s hoping the TWolves really really botch things up.

I remember last year knowing there was no way the Kings would select Harden and being soooooo happy that Rubio and Tyreke were on the board because then I would know exactly who the Kings were targetting.

If someone the Twolves do not select Cousins or Johnson, I will feel the same way.

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by wallywagon11 on May 25, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember last year knowing there was no way the Kings would select Harden and being soooooo happy that Rubio and Tyreke were on the board because then I would know exactly who the Kings were targetting.

You guys are lucky that it’s not Maloof’s fault. Petrie is a good GM and knows how to draft?

Knowing Riley, Balance may be right. Our GM just might be stupid enough to draft yet another lefty that has been labeled soft, is an so-so rebounder, has no low post game, isn’t chiseled, doesn’t have a polished game, and has been compared to Lamar Odom. If we draft Monroe, I probably won’t be the only one that feels the sting of the last idiotic move of the Cohan era.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 25, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I could be wrong but your guys track record in the draft recently hasn’t been that bad. I also don’t think there is a general one position of need on the Warriors, so they will probably just try and draft the BPA. I wouldn’t worry too much, I think they are going to be fine.

And yeah Petrie is good at drafting. It’s his ability to negiotate free agent contracts with agents that he seems to struggle with (although to be fair, his Peja contract was solid and so was the fact he ditched Bonzi and moved on quick to Salmons … but that is about it)

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by wallywagon11 on May 25, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s much better than what we’ve had. We’ve been in the lottery 15+ times in the 17 or so years Cohan has been the owner. We have had one hit. Curry. Maybe Randolph, but I think Randolph has his ways to go. Monroe wouldn’t be great for the system. I still think Aminu is the type of player that would give us the frontcourt depth we need.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 25, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

well when talking about the draft

I meant I thought you guys did well recently. I figured since Mullin was out I wouldn’t go over his stuff. AR wasn’t a bad pick.

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by wallywagon11 on May 25, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Randolph was a pretty lucky pick to get at #14.
Curry was pretty much supposed to go at #8, so why shouldn’t they?

They’ve done a really bad job drafting, though. Over the years, from Smith to Pietrus. Monroe isn’t bad, just not the guy we need.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 25, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

So disagree

starting in 98 not that horrid

-Jamison
-Cummings (26th)
-Jason Richardson
-Troy Murphy
-Gilbert Arenas
-Dunleavy (oh no, they didn’t get Goodin, Tskfjkadsjfksdf, or Dajun Wagner!)
-Pietrus (oh no, they didn’t get Collison, Banks, Ridnour, Gaines, Bell, or Cabarkapa)
-Biedrins
-Diogu (looks like it really sucked with Bynum next but this wasn’t horrible compared to some of the others picked after right after Bynum. Plus …)
-Ellis was in the same draft
-O’Bryant (REALLY sucked but again look who was picked around him there. We got Saer Sene Senegal, J.J. Redick, Hilton Armstrong, Thabo Sefolosha, Ronnie Brewer, Cedric Simmons, Rodney Carney, Shawne Williams, Oleksiy Pecherov, and Quincy Douby )
-Wright
-Bellini (Sucked. just flat out sucked. Not much else I can say)
-Randolph
-Curry

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by wallywagon11 on May 25, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd take Amare over Dunleavy in a second.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 25, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

look at all the other forwards picked between them

gooden
tshfjksdfjksdjf
hilario
wilcox

Plus, the warriors had dampier, jamison, and murphy at the time and trying to hit a home run wiht the draft pick. I highly doubt they were ever considering the high school PF with off the court issues at that 3rd pick

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by wallywagon11 on May 25, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

No he probably wasn't

But you should at least acknowledge that the 2nd best player of that whole draft was still available.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 26, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not a Belinelli fan, but picking at 17 he wasn’t a completely terrible pick.

Thing A

by sam23 on May 26, 2010 4:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

#18

The Great Sean Williams went #17. Remember the handwringing and gnashing of teeth around here when we “missed out” on that dude?

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 26, 2010 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was hoping they'd pick the best EURO wing so was thrilled...

Wait…they picked who? They didn’t pick Rudy Fernandez? Are you serious?!!!

by breaker on May 26, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh … at the time I was a little surprised/disappointed we didn’t take Rudy, but we would have had to wait a year for him. Plus, for all the hype he gets, last season he was a pretty comparable player to Marco (i.e. comparably mediocre).

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by Sleepy Freud on May 26, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I admit to biting on the Yi train.

But that went away when we traded for Wright. He was my favorite non Oden-Durant prospect.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 26, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it too much to ask?

For a big man who boxes out, has good defense and awareness, and soft hands to catch them dimes from Curry?…I guess it is. Favors would have been the best fit for us. Him and Curry would be the younger version of Nash and Amare.

by GSWeri on May 25, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

i doubt Favors has the offensive game of Amare

but still, close enough

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by wallywagon11 on May 25, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's only 19

He will get there…

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by dubzfan on May 25, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Monroe is another lefty big man that isn’t an extremely good rebounder and isn’t a great post player, and isn’t polished yet. Ouch.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 25, 2010 9:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry to bring reality down to you but Aminu isn’t polished yet either. in fact there aren’t very many options that are at 6+ that still have potential or upside.

by Balance on May 25, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry to bring reality down to you but Aminu isn’t polished yet either.

Aminu has a similar standing reach to Monroe and is arguably the best athlete in the draft.
Aminu is a hustle player.
Monroe apparently “rarely looks to dominate”.
Monroe is a “good rebounder, defensively.”
Aminu was probably the best offensive rebounder in college basketball, something this team needs.
Monroe has a nice skill-set.
But he isn’t consistent. The only reason I’d consider him to be a shooter is that he has geat form, but he doesn’t even have that great range on his jumper.
Monroe is unpolished on offense and his footwork is questionable.
You could easily say the same for Aminu, easily.
Monroe’s passing is great, but it’s only useful for a princeton-type offense with a high-low post action. The only problem? We don’t have a significant low-post player.
Monroe’s a good player and a good prospect, and I think he’s underrated. He’s just a horrible fit for this team’s needs.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 25, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

larry i love you but

you need to pump the breaks with this aminu talk. Love the enthusiasm but chill a bit

by cuse7284 on May 25, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

larry is right though

aminu give us more of what we lack than Monroe does

by tjmax on May 25, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

you need to pump the breaks with this aminu talk. Love the enthusiasm but chill a bit

I never said that I didn’t like Monroe. I’ve said multiple times that I wouldn’t be mad if we picked Monroe. Just that if Aminu is as sketchy as Monroe, I’d take Aminu. He has things you cant teach. Then again, Monroe is pretty good too. Wouldn’t be mad. Would be bad drafting to pass on Aminu unless you had a Jason Thompson-type or a David West.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 26, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m hoping Wes Johnson falls to no.6.

by DubsFan408 on May 25, 2010 9:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Same ..

He’d be a PERFECT fit for us .. PERFECT

by Potential on May 25, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wes means more to us than he does to Minny or Sacto

Curry makes Wes a much more productive player. Wes with Tyreke or Flynn at PG is a much lesser player. That’s why I think he’s going to fall. You can see it in Minny and Sacto’s fan boards too. They don’t want Wes.

by JSML on May 25, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

This post makes a lot of good points, but....

Following its logic we should be going after Cole Alridge, not Monroe. Cole is a better post player, is bigger, hustles and mixes it up, gives us different skill set and body type than the bigs we have, more fundamentally sound.
I prefer Aminu to either, but if we’re getting a big I think Cole may be a better pick.
He’s less athletic and not the passer or face up player Monroe is – but Monroe isn’t better than AR who already gives us that.

by tjmax on May 25, 2010 9:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Greg Monroe profile from www.Briansbigboard.com

“Monroe does so many things on the floor that make you appreciated his game. He has a tremendous basketball IQ and uses it throughout a game. His NBA body is complimented by his court vision and his passing ability, which have allowed him to play in Georgetown’s system. As I have noted previously, many of today’s NBA big men are unwilling to go down on the block and play with their back to the basket. Monroe, like many of those bigs, is most comfortable in a triple threat situation, where he can pass, dribble or shoot the ball. While Monroe has a good all around game, he hasn’t been able to become the dominant scorer that he should have developed into. He was often passive and he had a tendency to disappear when his team needed him most during his two seasons at Georgetown. Additionally he never became the type of big man that team’s had to account for on both ends of the floor. His tendency to blend in with his teammates could be seen as a positive, but the best big men are able make their presence felt throughout the game. There is no doubt that Monroe will be in the NBA for a long, long time. He is such a skilled big man and he doesn’t rely on uber-athleticism or supreme quickness to do his damage. Instead he relies on his fundamentals and making the right decisions at the right times. He has a body that will allow him to be a solid player on both ends of the floor and his size will allow him to play the center position without slowing a team down in the process. Look for Monroe to be a solid contributor right away and continue to contribute for many years to come. I expect him to go somewhere in the top 10. "

www.briansbigboard.com

by cuse7284 on May 25, 2010 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Great call Balance

some folks wouldn’t know a basketball if it broke there nose…GREG MONROE=multi-skilled bigman=Warriors pick at 6

by Brothaplease09 on May 25, 2010 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

don't we have a multiskilled dbigman named AR?

If we have AR we don’t need a Boris Diaw type

by tjmax on May 25, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well not really Tjmax...

the thing about Anthony Randolph is he’s too light in the shorts to gaurd most PF on the block (on ball defender)…but Randolph is a good help defender (excellent timing with blocking shots). As for Randolph being multi-skilled, he’s still a work in progress…to be totally honest, do you trust Randolph leading the break (like he attempts to do) when the games on the line? Am I the only one hoping Randolph grabs the rebound and hands it to Curry or Ellis quickly? Randolph’s idea of what he’s good at and the teams idea are totally different. Monroe= set good screens, pass well out the high post, shoot the 12 footer, body his man on the block w/ help defenders floating (Randolph, Turiaf, BWright)…Monroe is more skilled than Andris at this point in his career

by Brothaplease09 on May 25, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Monroe is more of the same

Monroe is a tweener PF/C who plays like he wants to be a SF – thus the Boris Diaw comparison. We have that in our bigs already. AR is coming back bigger, BW hopefully will be healthy, Turiaf and Tolliver can guard 4s to some degree as well. If we add a BIG we need a true BIG to bang down low against Kaman, Duncan, Gasol, and Oden types. If we go BIG I say we need to get Cole Aldridge, he is a true center and plays like one, but isn’t as slow or unathletic as most people think. Plus he is fundamentally sound and doesn’t make a ton of turnovers (unlike Monroe), skills are big men sorely lack by the way.
As for AR bringing the ball up the court – I agree with you, but I don’t think Monroe being drafted will change that, only a new mindset from AR or a new coach addresses that.

by tjmax on May 26, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry if i sound like an idiot but

Monroe is a tweener PF/C who plays like he wants to be a SF – thus the Boris Diaw comparison. We have that in our bigs already.

Who exactly would classify as a tweenter PF/C who plays like he wants to be a SF that is on the team right now? AR?

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 26, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes - Randolph

and even though we haven’t seen him play much – Wright seems like tweener PF/C who at least knows he is a PF

by tjmax on May 26, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

do you think that Monroe would be a bit redundant because you guys already have AR?

They seem like different players to me

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by wallywagon11 on May 26, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I personally do not think it would be redundant

Since neither BW or AR have proved to be able to play well throughout a whole season, if we think Monroe will be better than they are, I say go for it. It would give us a bit of a jam at PF, but I don’t know if Monroe is ready to come in and play that much, and also I don’t think a jam is the worst thing to have. I managment doesn’t think BW and AR will turn into much, and they think Monroe will turn into a good player, then I’m all for it. I’m skeptical of drafting big men that people aren’t really excited about, because it seems to not work out that well often. I think we need to go BPA and if thats Greg Monroe, lets swipe him up!

by freerandolph on May 26, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Monroe is not worth getting excited about

Look, Monroe may or may not turn out to be better than any of our bigs (i doubt it though). This is not the point. The point is that we have other needs if we want to win right now – which Riley has publicly stated. We need a true big down low who plays fundamentally, knows his role, and bangs with the other centers. We also need a taller wing player who cares more about playing defense, grabbing boards and mixing it up than shooting threes. Therefore, we need either Aminu (first choice) or Cole (very distance second) if one of the top players don’t fall to us.
Also, mgmnt seems to think that BW and AR may turn out to be quite good, but unless they play we’ll never really know. Injuries is one way we don’t know this, having Monroe take minutes is yet another.
Log jams are a bad thing to have is we have other holes to fill

by tjmax on May 26, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Randolph should focus on one less thing.

If we were to draft Monroe, i think it’d help Randolph out by having him learn one less thing. I say keep it simple. Have him focus on help side defense and creating his own shot/ post moves, then have him learn the Point-forward after.

by Spee-D on May 26, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have him focus on help side defense and creating his own shot/ post moves, then have him learn the Point-forward after.

Dude, Biedrins is a lefty, Brandan is a lefty, Randolph is a lefty, and Monroe is a lefty.
Three of those guys are PF’s. You really think we need another guy at PF, who thinks he’s an SF? Monroe would be great for a team that already has an established rotation in the frontcourt. He’s a less-athletic Odom. We already have a more-athletic than Odom-Odom. His name is Anthony Randolph.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 26, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, Biedrins is a lefty, Brandan is a lefty, Randolph is a lefty, and Monroe is a lefty

I have no idea what the whole lefty thing is about.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 26, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, left-handed big men are rare and skilled. But it doesn’t mean you make a collection of left-handed bigs that either have an SF game or weigh the same as an SF.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 26, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did Spee-D use that at a reason to get Monroe?

Or did anyone use the fact Monroe is lefty as a reason to sign him? Personally, the only way I get excited about a big who is a lefty is if they have been shown they can block shots.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 26, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

A tweener PF/C????

That doesn’t even make sense?? If you know more tweener PF/C’s sign me up, I love those kind of players that can play more than one position…Since when was a 6’11 248lbs PF/C who can pass, rebound and shoot the 12 footer a bad thing (Tweener?) Aminu is an athletic Small Forward with no offensive reportoire, list of real Small forwards…

Caron Butler
Carmelo Anthony
Shawn Marion
Richard Jefferson
Ron Artest
Rudy Gay
Danny Granger
Hedo Turkuglu
Gerald Wallace

All these guys would give Aminu his lunch…let alone Durant and Lebron….

by Brothaplease09 on May 26, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Monroe is a CENTER who has the skill to play PF. That’s a very good thing if you want to go big. Monroe is the same size as Beidrins, and Monroe will only be a rookie. I don’t know how that was missed or if people just haven’t seen him play. He’s big. Additionally, our PF’s are twigs. it would be nice to have someone with size to rotate in at the 4 spot. Also, Monroe is bigger and younger than Aldrich. Check it out.

by Balance on May 26, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a center who lacks the length to play center

6’11", but 9’0.5" standing reach

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by Reverend_Randy on May 26, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 more inches of reach than turiaf. What exactly is your expectation of Reach for a center? I understand 9’5" to be “freakish”.

by Balance on May 26, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going off of average on draftexpress

which is ~9’2", I think.

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by Reverend_Randy on May 26, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

What exactly is your expectation of Reach for a center?

I think 9-5 is pretty good for a starting C. Turiaf is listed as a PF.

by LarryLegendofOracle on May 26, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

9'5" is really good

pretty uncommon

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by Reverend_Randy on May 26, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since the pre-draft camps started keeping track of it regularly in the late 90s, the POB had the 7th best standing reach (though it’s a 12 way tie with 4 guys who are in the draft this year; Shaq is also listed with a similar standing reach though the measurements from those years are irregular and not at all comprehensive). Of course, not everyone goes to the camps. Biedrins wasn’t measured at the camp and I can’t find info on Yao, but it’s still pretty impressive. But however impressive it is, it doesn’t seem like it’s a great indicator of success in the NBA. Of the 8 players with equal or better standing reach listed from the last dozen years, there’s one who looks to be a pretty reasonable center, but certainly not a star (Haywood), and a guy who looks to have a whole lot of potential to be pretty good for years to come (B. Lopez) but certainly doesn’t make a team simply by being on it. Just glancing at a sorted list, there doesn’t seem to be anything special about having an enormous standing reach on its own. If it has been used as a significant tool for making draft decisions, it shouldn’t be.

by jae on May 26, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Monroe is a CENTER who has the skill to play PF.

 How does he compare to Chris Hunter?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on May 26, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hunter is 6 years older than Monroe but they are both african american.

by Balance on May 26, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're both huge guys?

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 26, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a bad thing when they have crappy length, don't rebound their position all that well

can’t use one of their hands and aren’t especially athletic.
You know that Gerald Wallace had literally no offensive game when he came into the league? We’re not drafting Aminu for his offense- we already have too much offense. We need a perimeter defender.

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by Reverend_Randy on May 26, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the comp for Aminu but

Gerald Wallace is a success story. Not the norm for extremely raw but elite-athleticism type of wings. For every Wallace there’s a Gerald Green, Joe Alexander, Demar Derozen (still early, but meh).

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 26, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know

the odds that Aminu becomes even half as good as Wallace is very low, but at least he has shown a genuine commitment to improving and learning the game. I can’t really speak too much about the other guys.

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by Reverend_Randy on May 26, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

must… have… less offense!

go rowand

by lincypoo i wuv u on May 27, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was because he played in that style of offense.

I’ve heard many times that Princeton-style of players are hard to gauge.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 26, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Larry Riley said they will take a 3 and a Big in the draft. I think they’ll take the 3 first. Sorry to say but they are looking at Artsiom Parkhouski in the second round.

by J-RIDAH on May 25, 2010 11:28 PM PDT reply actions  

They should consider ryan richards in the 2nd round.

by Balance on May 26, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Ryan Richards too, has game to be so young

by Brothaplease09 on May 26, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

From what I've heard I just don't want Greg Monroe. He just doesn't seem to have a big upside.

Sure we need big men more than anythings, but we don’t need bad big men more than anything else. Would you rather draft POB or Stephen Curry? Sure, we need big men, but getting one that sucks doesn’t help anything. From everything I’ve heard I’m in support of Aminu all the way, unless one of the top 5 drop down.

by freerandolph on May 26, 2010 3:31 AM PDT reply actions  

exactly how does Monroe compare to POB?

by Spee-D on May 26, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he does, POB is just a big man who was a bust.

I’m just saying that big men seem to be more risky (that maybe inaccurate though) and I want to draft the BPA. I’m just worried drafting Monroe will be as productive as drafting POB was.

by freerandolph on May 26, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

folks can review O'Bryant's biometrics

….he was 250 lbs, with a huge span and 9’5 standing reach! Do you think those numbers might have affected Mullin’s judgement?

by the.monk on May 26, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm really sorry to point out this grammatical flaw

but it’s complement, not compliment. And it’s not just you, but this whole board seems to not understand the difference between these two words.

As for me, I want Aldrich, for reasons I will elaborate upon in a more thorough post one day.

by dso on May 26, 2010 7:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Is it a grammatical or vocabulary flaw?

Seems to me to be the latter. But I digress…

by Evanz on May 26, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he meant that he’d add offense in lieu of clapping and high-fives.

And it’s not just you, but this whole board seems to not understand the difference between these two words.

I’ve been trying to teach that lesson with humorous mocking and good-nature ridicule for years. Perhaps we can complement each other’s ambitions. My compliments to you if your tactics work better than mine.

by jae on May 26, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yoo has better use uf your time no?

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 26, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been trying to teach that lesson with humorous mocking and good-nature ridicule for years. Perhaps we can complement each other’s ambitions.

maybe the language is just undergoing it’s normal evolution and you guys are out of the loop?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on May 26, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe the language is just undergoing it’s normal evolution and you guys are out of the loop?

Does its evolution include failure to know when to use apostrophes?

by jae on May 26, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does its evolution include failure to know when to use apostrophes?

we’ll hafta wait till it evolves to know, that’s the beauty of the beast.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on May 26, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

this whole board seems to not understand the difference

On the other hand, some of them don’t split their infinitives…

I keeed. Split infinitives are sometimes tough to avoid, where complement/compliment is a pretty basic distinction that seems easy enough to respect.

Actually, my issue with the word, such as it is, is less with the misspelling than with its general overuse. Like “upside,” “athletic,” and “wingspan,” it’s become a bit of a hoops-board cliché. Not saying I never use it — just that, like all clichés, it tends to give one’s writing that not-so-fresh feeling. Here are some synonyms of complement (the noun) to ponder:

accompaniment, foil, match, balance, counterpart, supplement, pair

Let’s try it out. “Personally, I think Wes Johnson’s game would be the perfect accompaniment to Curry’s.” Sounds OK, right? And since “accompaniment” doesn’t have any homonyms, think of all the unpleasant confusion, humorous mocking, and good-natured ridiculing we’d avoid…

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 26, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

There isn’t a real consensus among grammarians when it comes to split infinitives, therefore the matter boils down to stylistic taste. The writer makes the call & all.

Did Morrow get ejected???

by DrManatee on May 26, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that “rule” always seemed obnoxiously pedantic to me — kinda like omitting the last comma in a series before “and” (another one of those stylistic / “either way” rules, but I always think omitting it is both confusing and inconsistent with the way we speak).

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 26, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay Sleepy. While you consult the Chicago Manual of Style, I’ll give M.H. Abrams a ring and petition a thesis on the subject.

Did Morrow get ejected???

by DrManatee on May 26, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

And no matter which way you do it, some A$$ #0le teacher docks points.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 26, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

First I'd like to complement you on your knowledge of grammer.

And although, you are right and it can be fun to talk about, we all get people mean, right? I figure that’s really the point of words anyway.

by freerandolph on May 26, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

this is one of those internet sarcasm things right?

but yeah, i’m not really one to talk about grammatical (or syntactical) integrity, but i fear the constant misuse of the word is going to permanently confuse people into thinking the two words are the same. maybe this is one of those evolutionary twists a language takes and in a few years we’ll see the two merged into one word… but until that happens i hope we can all learn to distinguish the two

by dso on May 26, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Etymologically speaking, they’re the same word, so maybe it’s time they reunited and saved everyone a lot of headaches?

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by Sleepy Freud on May 26, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

disagree, they appear to have different root words

cumplir (to be courteous) vs. complementum (to complete). the two may have merged together spelling-wise during medieval times, but that’s precisely why their spellings needed to be changed.

that looks like a pretty cool dictionary tho

by dso on May 27, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

I used that dictionary recently in an argument we were having on a different forum regarding whether “funner” is a word.

(I say no…)

by Evanz on May 27, 2010 4:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funner is a recognized word in tournament Scrabble, if that counts for anything.

by jae on May 27, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Counts for a lot in my book. I love that the Scrabble dictionary allows common vernacular English/American words. If it’s not capitalized, an acronym, or an abbreviation, and people say it all the time, it’s a word, imo. “Fun isn’t an adjective!” is up there with “Don’t split infinitives!” “Don’t end sentences in prepositions!” and “Don’t put a comma before the last item in a list!” in the pedantic / 4th grade English teacher Hall of Fame.

I dunno, sometimes it’s just funner to write the way we actually speak…

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 27, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, but do you speak that way?

I never use that word in conversation.

by Evanz on May 30, 2010 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I might say it occasionally when I’m trying to be cute. It does have a tendency to make one sound like a second-grader. At the same time, everyone has heard it and is familiar with it. It’s not good formal English, obviously, but it is pretty standard-issue American slang (which is acceptable in Scrabble).

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on May 30, 2010 6:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thats funny

because a good passing, good scoring, decent defending, all-star caliber center would be fine with me.

by freerandolph on May 26, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I think young Brad Miller was an okay player.

And a young Brad Miller playing with Biedrins and an athlete like AR would be pretty fun to watch. There are 96 minutes to be played at PF and C. I think they can figure that out.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 26, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brad Miller: above average scoring efficiency center who can score at a reasonable volume for a center, one of the better passing bigs in the game. At his best, he was a shade above average rebounder, only a shade below average for his career. Made a pair of All Star games.

If there’s a reasonable chance that Monroe can reach that, I’m failing to see what the downside is.

by jae on May 26, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

upside=white guy not named Bird=bad thing ;)

Thing A

by sam23 on May 26, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said ceiling, which would be the absolute best case scenario.

Brad Miller was a decent enough player in his prime, but not the type of potential player you want to use a number six pick on.

by Spider Jerusalem on May 27, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Odds of getting a star with the #6 pick isn’t really that good. It sounds like high pick that should reasonably become a really good player, but history shows it usually isn’t. If we got a Brad Miller level player with the pick, it’s a big, big win vs what is more likely, a player who sits on the bench, fans gripe about how we need to see him to see what he can do, but when he actually plays and we see what he can do, we realize that we didn’t actually want to see him.

As important or more important than whether or not he can exceed a “Brad Miller level” is the likelihood that he’ll get to that, or any other level. If it’s a reasonable chance that he’ll realize that potential, but that’s the capped potential, it’s a great pick.

Of course, this skirts around the fact that these “ceilings” are pretty much guesswork that only mildly outperforms tossing darts with a blindfold on. I suspect most scouts don’t have a great idea about what a player’s “true” “ceiling” is. I really don’t think fans are good at projecting that sort of thing at all.

by jae on May 27, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like charts. Here's a chart.

http://82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

Sorta arbitrary requirements (there was a better one on NBAdraft.net but after the server change the internet ate it), but the point is the same. In a typical draft, you have a 25% chance of getting a star at the number 6 pick (which is a sharp drop off from the 5th pick). This is far from a typical draft, though. This has a chance to be possibly the deepest draft ever, so you have to feel like a star at #6 isn’t far fetched.

And perhaps some people projecting is like throwing darts blindfolded, but I’m pretty secure in my ability and track record. Greg Monroe is a below-average athlete who struggled to dominate lesser opposition. He might benefit from the more wide open NBA game with his rebounding ability and vision, and he might struggle with his less-than-average physical tools. A lot of his success will also depend on the system he’s drafted into. The Princeton style offense that Sacramento used to run was tailor-made for Miller and Webber (who Monroe shares similarities to), but I’m not sure if his skillset fits in a lot of places in today’s NBA.

by Spider Jerusalem on May 27, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is far from a typical draft, though. This has a chance to be possibly the deepest draft ever

on the other hand I hear lots of folks sayin it’s a 5 player draft?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on May 27, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with the 5 sure picks. Or, better said, 5 clear top picks. Although i hope some gm get’s confused and we get lucky.

I do think there will be gems and possibily a larger amount this year after 5. Guys like, Paul george, aminu, whiteside, stephensen, ed davis, larry sanders,etc. …….who knows. I’d bet there will be a couple teams who get really, really lucky. Most teams wont, per usual.

by Balance on May 27, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think that too.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 30, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

The draft is weird

it’s like 4-5 really good players, then there is very little drop off after 6. You should be able to get a solid role player at 20 is what they’re saying.

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by Reverend_Randy on May 27, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't agree that it's a five player draft.

I think there are at least 10 players with star+ potential, and a ton more with solid role player potential. In terms of franchise cornerstone types it could be considered thin, I suppose (but then so is every draft, sans 2003).

by Spider Jerusalem on May 28, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im really starting to feel like Johnson or Cousins will fall in our lap. Im seeing more and more Articles pop up with guys saying Aminu is better than wesley johnson. Sports illustrated just wrote one today
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/05/26/draft.big.board.1/index.html?eref=sihp

by J-RIDAH on May 28, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Articles pop up with guys saying Aminu is better than wesley johnson.

 I hope they keep pumping these lower players so we have at least a slight chance to get Cuz. Realistically though he should go off the board right after Wall so I’m not gonna get too excited.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on May 28, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would love big cuz. but there are real red flags on him. he is contentious in his speach. you can tell by the interviews. i think he’s trapped mode where his whole life people have been testing him. it’s understandable to be annoyed with it. he’s also a 300 pound 19 yr old. in three years will Cousins be 320+? Comparatively will Monroe be 270? To that point, which player projects better?

I think it’s a long shot we land any one of these top 5 but i would be very excited if we did.

by Balance on May 28, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

in three years will Cousins be 320+?

 Haha, who knows? Maybe he’ll become a weight watcher’s spokesman and go on dancing with the stars? I like his Shaq like personality though and think he’d be entertaining and sell lots of tickets. Kentucky fans seemed to love him. If we can’t get him I hope the Kings do so he’s playing close by.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on May 28, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we'd regret it if the Kings land him.

I’m thinking there’s a chance one of the above teams reach on a player. If things go well we’d get the player other teams didn’t want (Johnson or Cousins). I think it’s much more likely Johnson drops. But there is a lot of division on Cousins’ off court questions. We’ll see where Minny and Sac stand.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 30, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

it loses credibility

by having Cole Aldrich and Ed Davis above WJ, too.

by Evanz on May 30, 2010 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

The thing that cracks me up about this arguement

Over at StR people are concerned that Monroe is another Spencer Hawes. And over here people are concerned that Monroe is another AR.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 26, 2010 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

yup

Been stuck rooting for a team that traded away it’s red, white, and blue jerseys for purple … awesome.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 26, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry just want to emphasize that I don't think anyone at GSoM would think that either

I am merely pointing out how sometimes our rationale (including myself) tends to lead down funny paths.

Could some of you maybe use a condom once in a while?

by wallywagon11 on May 26, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who cares??

It’s clearly a 5 player draft…

Is there anything else to say? This year’s draft is a already disastrous for the Ws, and they haven’t even picked yet. Our only hope was to get Favors or Cousins and hope they developed into something valuable. Now? we might as well hurry up and start waiting because we will not have another shot at this high of a draft pick for years, and we should be picking 3rd if the warriors organization wasn’t garbage. I cannot put into words my level of dissapointment. something along the lines of “AAAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrgghhhhhhhgggggg…(unintelligable)…GGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAHH!!!!” get ready for another decade of 30-40 win seasons that neither produce playoff births or high lottery picks. Personally, I don’t even want to see a basketball for the rest of my life.

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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on May 26, 2010 6:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I feel you bro.

I felt the same twitch of my heart dropping in my chest when that awful number 6 appeared. I still feel it. But we’ve got to move on. We’ve got to find hope where we can.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on May 26, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

two words: clone wilt

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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on May 26, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has some skills of a SF in a PF body.

Although he’s not particularly explosive or athletic, he has the size at the 4 position and can shoot. I think that he should be working on his post game rather than his jump shot though. He has the potential to be a really good multi-talented big in a triangle system. However, in our system, he would pretty much be the low rebounding shooting 4 that Harrington and Tolliver were.

by tayuku on Jun 9, 2010 3:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never seen anybody say anything bad about his post game. For his size it would be smart to have that Karl Malone jumper.

by J-RIDAH on Jun 9, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never seen anybody say anything bad about his post game.

 Slow, mechanical, and below the rim?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 9, 2010 10:03 PM PDT reply actions  

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