Around the Association: 2010 NBA Draft Previews - Phoenix Suns: shoring up behind Amare Stoudemire?
24 days until the 2010 NBA Draft! Well, Hawaii time -- okay, okay, 23 days! Yeah, I'm falling off my one-team-per-day pace here, but I promise to do everything I can to catch up.
Now up, the Phoenix Suns. Like many other teams, they have a lot to be concerned about, Amare Stoudemire being priority #1. With the 46th and 60th picks in the Draft, there's not a whole lot they can do to improve the team on June 24th. It will be interesting whom they pick, as it relates to Amare and the remainder of the roster.
If they can just convince Amare to stay somehow, their roster is pretty rock-solid in terms of impact players...
| COMMITTED | MAYBE | OUT? | |
|---|---|---|---|
| pg | Steve Nash | ||
| Goran Dragic | |||
| sg | Jason Richardson | ||
| Leandro Barbosa | |||
| sf | Grant Hill | ||
| Channing Frye | |||
| Jared Dudley | |||
| pf | Amare Stoudemire | ||
| Louis Amundson | |||
| Earl Clark | |||
| Dwayne Jones | |||
| Taylor Griffin | |||
| c | Robin Lopez | ||
| Jarron Collins |
Phoenix has an interesting lineup in that they have two small forwards (Frye, Dudley) who are really over-sized, slow shooting guards, and a shooting guard who isn't a great shooter (Barbosa) but slashes to the hole a lot, sometimes acting as a small forward in doing so.
While the frontline this past season was pretty deep when Lopez was healthy, you can see from the graphic above that things are on very shaky ground inside the paint for 2010-11. Five of their seven frontcourt men do not have contracts for 2010-11.
Now, at #46 and #60, you're basically looking for backups. Therefore, I think the Suns need to find the next Amundson and Collins.
If an athletic small forward is available that late, maybe you take him because they've got four guys who don't get up the court very fast: J-Rich, Hill, Frye, and Dudley.
Also, Barbosa is probably leaving after 2010-11, if not sooner, because he's got a player option for 2011-12 (thank you, HoopsHype Salaries database) and he didn't play as much this past year, so that means it might be time to groom someone in the "slasher" department. As GSoM blog buddy Bright Side Of The Sun put it, Barbosa
...was the only player who avoided walking out the front way and talking to his friends in the media. We can only speculate what that means, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how expendable Leandro is on this team if he's going to be paid $7m and only play 15 minutes. I don't expect him back -- it just doesn't make sense.
Here's what the mock drafts predict...
Pick No. 46
- NBAdraft.net: Tim Ohlbrecht (pf, 6'11", 235, Germany, 22 yrs old). I have no insights on him. NBAdraft.net compares him to Brad Lohaus.
- DraftExpress: Sherron Collins (pg, 5'11", 190, Kansas, senior). Maybe DraftExpress hasn't checked their mock for actual team needs, but this pick makes no sense, considering the stellar point guard duo of Nash and Dragic.
- Chad Ford: does not predict 2nd round picks
Pick No. 60
- NBAdraft.net: Lazar Hayward (sf, 6'6", 226, Marquette, senior). Nice how they did predict a small forward pick here, but Hayward is hardly a slasher type, as evidenced by his heavy-set 226-lb frame. He's a bit slow for my taste and Frye and Dudley would probably beat him in a foot race -- which can be considered embarrassing -- because of longer legs of Frye (6'11") and Dudley (6'7"). If this is a best-player-available pick, I'm not sure I agree that Lazar Hayward is the 60th-best player available. He is not on DraftExpress's mock.
- DraftExpress: Derrick Caracter (pf/c, 6'9", 265, UTEP, junior): I have not seen Caracter play, but he gets good mentions in the draft boards. NBAdraft.net has him at #45. This would be a rather solid pick, position-wise. Again, the Suns need a backup power forward and center.
On NBAdraft.net, you have certain guys like Tiny Gallon of Oklahoma (versatile big man with a soft touch, but possible off-court issues) and Jarvis Varnado (shotblocker) of Mississippi State in the vicinity who could fall to #46. On DraftExpress, Jerome Jordan of Tulsa (7'0", runs the floor decent) is within fall-down range.
As far as guys who are listed past #46, NBAdraft.net has small forward Darington Hobson of New Mexico (6'7" athlete), Art Parakhouski of Radford (6'11" center), Dexter Pittman of Texas (6'11", weight issues), Miroslav Raduljica of Serbia (6'11"), and Hamady Ndiaye of Rutgers (7'0"). DraftExpress has a few international players at 6'10" or 6'11" whom you've never heard of and Brian Zoubek of Duke (7'0" rebounding machine), and Andrew Ogilvy of Vanderbilt (7'0").
One thing I'd like to say about Ndiaye is that I saw him in Portsmouth and I felt there was another big that was better than him: pf Deon Thompson of UNC (6'9"). Thompson is not listed on any mocks.
All of these guys are decent picks at #46 and #60. However, I think the Draft, or rather the pool of players who will not be drafted, is deep enough in rotation big men that you can invite a few non-drafteds in for free agent workouts.
As such, with your late-2nd-round picks, you might want to try and snag that "slasher/athletic" small forward -- and "project" -- in either Hobson, sg Lance Stephenson of Cincinnati (early entry, raw) or sf/pf Latavious Williams (D-League, 21 yrs old, 6'8"), if they are available that late.
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DAL - Depends on Dirk and Dampier dollars (50th, 57th picks)
CHA - S-Jax stuck (no draft picks)
DEN - Just need Coach Karl back? (no draft picks)
CLE - If you leave (no draft picks)
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I think Amare only goes back if NYK grabs Bosh and Miami grabs Boozer
But after how much they jerked him around in trades I doubt he wants to go back
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It is already tomorrow in Australia
About Frye and Ohlbrecht
1. Frye’s listing as SF (“oversized SG”) is a joke and I hope it is meant as such. Not sure because the Commish tends to put people onto slots he regards as really “correct”….
2. More importantly some infos about Ohlbrecht. As a citizen of cologne I had the pleasure to watch Ohlbrecht’s play in nearby Bonn various times in the highest German league. Pleasure because he finally seems to be back in his game. He came as hyped talent into this league (I think he was 18 years old then) and delivered soon after.He was proclaimed the next Dirk and his skillset was somewhat like Dirk’s. However he regressed heavily after his very good start, had problems with his coach in Bamberg and looked very much like a lost talent. His new start in Bonn reenergized him and he made tremendous progress. He is rebounding well, has a very nice shooting touch from beyond the (german) 3point line and shows some post moves from time to time.
Thanks for reading this because now comes the really interesting part: Is he an NBA talent?
NO! At best he could translate into a soft version of Frye. Yes, an even softer version. He tends to get demoralized quickly if things don’t go well, lacks inside power and toughness and should really struggle to defend in the NBA.
If there is a franchise were he could has some kind of shot it would be fast paced Phoenix while playing the zone but I cannot see it.
"It really is a choice of whatever rotten fruit you fancy least." (Kelly Dwyer about NBA Franchise owner)
I hate how this is the content the mod’s give us now.
Stephen Curry is the future.
We need to save this planet. Go Green, recycle, ride public transportation, use cantines. Anything you can do!
by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 2, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I would put Barbosa as "Out?"
At this point I think he is gone, and will be traded for a draft pick between 13-24.
R U ORNG?
I hope Amar'e is gone!
Long time Suns fan,since Steve left Dallas. Amar’e can be a hoss or horse’s ass! he only plays when he wants to. He doesn’t rebound or play defense. He is a cancer on the Suns! People blame his family situation but it is still not a good fit.
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
I want to have your post framed and put on display for the GSoMers who think we should have traded Curry, Biedrins, and Wright for the pleasure of chaining ourselves to Amare on a long-term max contract.
There will be no extra point!
Nice Frame
Glad to have Curry over Stat. He can be the best player on the court, or as he said, a cancer. Curry is the type of person that will dedicate himself to his team whether or not they are winning.
Curry/Monta/Turner/Morrow/Buike/Maggs/AR/Wright/Goose/Turiaf= Wins
Sleepy
Thanks! I might add that my wife and I are Warriors fans also. We watched Steve Nash with Dallas and really like Nellie.
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
Screw Nellie. I appreciate the love though.
Stephen Curry is the future.
We need to save this planet. Go Green, recycle, ride public transportation, use cantines. Anything you can do!
by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 4, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Staying...
If the Suns are willing to pay Amar’e, then he’s going to stay. As much as he’s probably intrigued by the possibility of playing in Miami with Dwyane Wade, he’s got to realize that the Suns just went to Game 6 of the NBA Western Conference Finals, and were extremely close to taking Game 5 in Los Angeles. I have no doubt that he’ll take the biggest offer presented to him (not sure if anyone will offer him the full max), but I think that if the Suns offer what Miami or New York or any other team does, that he’ll probably stay with Phoenix.
As far as their draft, clearly they are going to need a little help at forward if they lose Amundson and Frye. I think you’re wrong about the position that Frye plays though. Even though offensively he really only takes jumpers, he plays center or power forward most of the time for Phoenix, and never small forward. He actually pulled down a team best 29 rebounds over the final 3 games of the Western Conference Finals. I think they have a legitimate shot to bring him back even if he’s looking for a bigger contract. He was only due to be paid 2 million for next season, and is probably looking for something in the 3-4 million range. The Suns can offer him that, and he’s clearly comfortable in their offense and in his role their. He also played his college ball at U of A so it’s already a home to him.
I think both he and Amare stay, leaving the roster looking like this:
Nash-Dragic
Richardson-Barbosa
Hill-Dudley
Amare-Clark
Lopez-Frye
Clark is unproven but their rotation already goes 9 men deep without him, so that’s not really an issue. They could use some help on the boards and defensively, but no matter who they drafted, they would likely only see very slim to no minutes. Therefore I think it’s likely that Steve Kerr recognizes that Nash is approaching his last season (maybe two seasons) and Grant Hill doesn’t have much left in the tank either. He’ll look to add players that can be groomed to plug into the offense after this season or next. That means the Suns will take the best player available at both spots in the second round, or possibly just trade both picks for a higher one or a player already in the NBA.
Is Don Nelson going to Hawaii forever now?
Really don't think so
This would require a team with capspace and this team has to be willing to eat Barb’s player option next year (if I remember correctly). Which team would be willing to trade for him? I really don’t see any takers without other incentives to bribe them.
"It really is a choice of whatever rotten fruit you fancy least." (Kelly Dwyer about NBA Franchise owner)

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