http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2010/6/25/1536589/draft-express-scouting-report-ekpe

it has a lot of video links too, you should look em up. You might feel differently after

Here he would not need to carry any sort of offensive load. I imagine he’d get 18-20 ppg eitherway. But I’d prefer he not even worry about it and be more of an assist, rebound, defense guy.

How many players in league have averaged over 17 ppg, 5 apg and 6 rpg over last 4 years with low turn overs and great D??

And Monta isn’t nearly as attractive as we think.

That’s a really bad way of judging a player. The Sixers were really bad, which means that there weren’t a lot of opportunities for "big shots."

Actually, they weren’t. Their record was, and they looked brutal at times, but they looked like a playoff team at others, including some big wins on the road. Their roster is not bad (even before Evan Turner). Their coaching last year was abysmal. When Elton Brand (on offense) and Sammy D (on defense) felt like playing, they were an extremely competitive team. But they showed up for every other game despite making $18M or whatever. That’s a problem.

Given his salary, it sounds like Sixer fans complaints about him are similar to ours with Mags – being paid too much for what he does, maybe unreasonable expectations.

Then why go acquire another player who takes up a large amount of the cap just so we can complain a year from now that he’s the new Maggette? I think the comparisons between Iggy and Corey are fair. They don’t play the same, but they seem to have the same result on W’s and L’s. Maybe the expectations were unreasonable for Iggy in Philly, but if he’s making $10M+ and not living up to his contract, that’s not a player I’m interested in, especially given the Warriors ownership situation.

Haha. Yes, how silly of me to imagine that a player who has averaged a career 16.0 pts / 5.8 reb / 4.6 ast in 38 minutes with a .560 TS and 2:1 ast/TO ratio, while basically never getting injured, is a more valuable player than Monta Ellis or OJ Mayo.

I’m not talking about Monta Ellis or OJ Mayo. You are. You are the one who designed the elaborate trade (a pretty good one, I may add) because “Iguodala really HAS to happen now.” I’m just pointing out that I do not really care for Iggy.

Hm. Probably about a game and a half total? And maybe a dozen or so over his career. Do you have some information you’d like to impart from observing him more closely?

And I’m guessing that one game you did watch was @ Oakland, when Philly played very well (IIRC)? I’ll impart a little info, but trust me, I’m no Iggy expert.

When I was home visiting the parents, I was watching the local Philly Comcast channel. They were doing a pre-game roundtable live with the local media, and the host asked the following question: “Since Charles Barkley was traded in 1992, who has been the second best 76er?” So, obviously Allen Iverson is number one on that list, but who is second? All four reporters just had completely blank stares. After an awkward silence, (I think) Dei Lynam stuttered, “Well….I guess…it’s gotta be Iggy….right?” All of the other reporters kinda started nodding their heads, and you could just tell they were all thinking the same thing. Wow, really? It’s Iggy? How can that be? What does this mean? There’s no one else it could be. So, yep, it’s Iggy.

It was quite a revealing back-and-forth. It revealed a lot about the Sixers, about Iggy, and and about the perception that there have been some good Sixers teams in the past 15 years.

Well, very few, given the small sample size. But I’m going to hang my hat on his solid .560 career TS% rather than your silly rhetorical question, especially since his shooting would be one of the last reasons we’d be acquiring him. Somehow, with Curry, Morrow, Reggie, and Kelenna in the fold, I think we’re pretty OK on that front.

Not too silly, Sleepy. Why would you arrange a complicated trade netting a long-term salary unless you thought he was going to hit big shots? I mean, if the W’s have the ball, down 1 or 2 with 15 seconds left on the clock, who do you think is going to take the shot? Epke Udoh? Andris Biedrins? Reggie Williams? No. Iggy is taking it.

With most players, Sleepy, I agree, my comment might be a bit rhetorical. But when a team with a very fluid and convoluted ownership/management situation wants to acquire a long term salary, there better be a really good reason.

Cos of the pricy contract? Cos the Sixers haven’t been very good (though they’ve generally better when Iggy’s been on court)? Cos Philly fans, as a general rule, are a mean, fickle and cynical lot? Again, it’s the fact that he doesn’t seem that beloved, by the fans or the FO, that makes prying him seem somewhat feasible.

I agree that prying a player from a team in flux is generally a good idea. That’s one reason I think that Luol Deng is a possibility, b/c the Bulls are so concentrated on LBJ/Bosh/Wade etc right now.

But Iggy just isn’t the right guy. He’s built like Maggette but doesn’t like to stay in front of his man. He gambles a bunch for steals. He disappears for long stretches of games. His shooting is solid, it is true, but I think he’s aided by the D collapsing on Elton Brand, which gives him open looks. No one collapses on the W’s front line.

Iggy takes a lot of jumpers. He seems to pick up his intensity when the jumpers are falling, but when they are not, he’s a sieve. The refs don’t give him a lot of respect on his drives, which look a bit slow in comparison to someone like Corey, so I think that’s why he settles from long distance. His dunks are spectacular for sure but alas, they count as only two points.

Most worrisome, he has a history in Philly of missing game tying or game winning jumpers. For the couple times he’s made them (accompanied with the chest beating routine and Kobe Bryant Jaw look), he’s got a ton of misses. And they always do seem to be jumpers or extremely difficult leaners.

Are you actually saying, as a Ws fan, that you think this a raw deal for the Ws? If so, that only makes me more excited about its (remote) chances of happening…

No, not really. Don’t get all excited.

I don’t think the W’s should make any deal. They must sell first. They cannot acquire a big contract of a mediocre player before the sale.

But if they do deal, and they do go after a SF with a hefty contract, I’d go after Luol Deng or Danny Granger first. While neither of those two is a defensive stalwart, they bring plenty to the table in terms of experience, size, strength, and scoring ability and most certainly outweigh trading for Iguodala. And both the Pacers and Bulls are in flux.

I’m fairly certain that after Kelenna hit this three that Iggy missed the game winner at the buzzer. Can anyone confirm?

Edit: This Kelenna game winner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KPWiu-dJJ8

since he is an expiring

This could get scary.