5 quick reasons I think Udoh can improve not only himself but the organization:
- Our defense sucks. If he lives up to the hype that will surely improve. Most players by the time the are drafted crack and say 'I wanna show I can score too' Not the Lion. Not the Nightmare.
- Our players are stupid. We have a collective low basketball IQ. For Riley high IQ could have been a must.
- Our players are lazy. Udoh is a dirty-work guy. Hopefully he'll convince AR and Wright to do the same.
- He's old. How many damn players do we have younger than 25. Now that Maggette is gone all of them.
- He rebounds. Yes sure he isn't the greatest rebounder. But we need more size and rebounding and he adds that. All in all, we have stupid, lazy, ball dominant, young, players that don't want to rebound or play D. Hopefully Ekpe can change that.
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Might want to keep your expectations in check.
It might seem like you are defending the players on your team but in the end, if he doesn’t pan out out, you are setting him up to come off as a disappointment.
Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?
er maybe not defending the "players on the team" but defending the new rookie
Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?
by wallywagon11 on Jun 27, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
er maybe not defending the “players on the team” but defending the new rookie
Defense is exactly what we lack.
"The Warriors, who are the most dysfunctional organization in the NBA, were, of course, the team that screwed up the draft."
-Chad Ford, ESPN, 2010 on Ekpe Udoh
by LarryLegendofOracle on Jun 27, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions
5 quick reasons I think Udoh can improve not only himself but the organization?
So are you an employee of the Warriors organization, or an agent for EkpeUpoh? or just a teenage puppylover?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 27, 2010 3:55 PM PDT reply actions
I’m guess I remain hopeful it wasn’t a poor selection, but am not yet optimistic.
I didn’t see Baylor play a lot this year, but specifically commented to others about Udoh being a real talent when I originally saw the Duke game in the NCAAs. As a Duke fan I happened to still have that game sitting on my Tivo, so rewatched it yesterday focused on watching Udoh’s game. In so doing, a couple of thoughts.
1) Udoh did look good, demonstrating a nice mix of skills on the offensive side of the ball as well as the defensive. What I really wanted to see was what he might bring that doesn’t simply duplicate Randolph and Wright. To me, the pick only makes sense from a team need perspective if management thinks that Udoh can play the 5 or that either Udoh or Randolph legitimately can play the 3, because otherwise Randolph, Wright and Udoh are too similar at the 4.
Re: Udoh playing the 5, the Duke game wasn’t a terrible one to see as Baylor’s starting Center was in foul trouble for much of the game allowing Udoh to create a tough mismatch for Duke’s true Center, Zoubek. Zoubek may actually make an NBA roster as a (reasonably) skilled true-7 footer and Udoh was a matchup nightmare for him. Nevertheless, for all his strengths, Zoubek is uncommonly challenged as regards his lateral quickness and explosiveness, so this doesn’t prove too much one way or the other. While Udoh showed solid hands and instincts for rebounding, he’ll need to significantly strengthen his base to gain/hold position against true-5s in the NBA.
Re: Udoh playing the 3, before watching him again, this seemed an even more unlikely proposition. I now wonder whether this possibility, even for short stints, is what intrigued the Warriors. He does have a few unexpected skills for a player his size. He looked decently comfortable handling the ball in the half court, made several nice passes, showed an outside shot to near the college 3 point line, and perhaps most importantly demonstrated the ability to guard the 3 or the 2 out on the perimeter. Though the sample size was very small and the context was a zone defense, Udoh ended up out on the perimeter a few times matched up against (reasonably quick 2-guard) Nolan Smith and he actually got down into a defensive stance out there and effectively applied pressure. I know that his most talked about talent is shot blocking, but if he is capable of guarding the 3 at the next level then that is a useful addition to Wright and Randolph’s skill sets.
2) On the other hand, watching him again and now knowing that he is 23 years old, he wasn’t as dominant as one might hope given that I believe this was considered one of his best career games. (also, from other things I’ve read, I wonder if his performance that game was due to his rising to the occasion of a huge game (which would be good) or his having formerly been a Duke/Coach K fan which provided him added preparation and motivation). Were he 20 or 21, as I originally had thought, his performance would have impressed far more. Also, while Udoh was impressive, that was a pretty talented Baylor team around him so Baylor success was not entirely due to him. On the other hand, I suppose, his less than overwhelming scoring and (very good but not dominant) rebounding numbers may be attributable to sharing with their guard talent as well their playing zone defense and at a modest pace.
In the end, I felt and largely still feel that (once they soured on Monroe, perhaps correctly), Udoh may end up being a good pick. But it’s hard not to see Aminu as a superior long-term prospect given his youth, more apparent fit at the 3, similarly advanced defensive ability and stellar rebounding ability. Really, all 3 of these players seem to be high character guys. Basically, picking the 6’10" 23 year old who only made 2nd team all Big-12, over a 6’9" 19 year old who made 2nd team All-ACC (6th overall in the conference) seems a concerning choice with the 6th pick in the draft.
But as a Warriors fan, whether deserved or not, hope springs eternal!!!!! Often it is all we have.
Go Ekpe!!!!!!!!! Go Warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
udoh better than aminu for the short term
Udoh has a more complete game and relies more on bball skills than pure athleticism than Aminu. Aminu will have, I predict, the slightly better career, but we need a can’t miss prospect who won’t be swayed by the immaturity of some of our young guys. I think Udoh seems more grounded and professional than Aminu. Normally a knock on a guy, I think in our situation, on a roster with lots of youngsters, Udoh being 23 helped his cause
Larrylegend is right
But it will take a lot more than Udoh.
It will take moving Monta and (maybe) AR
It will take new coach who tells guys, produce at both ends or go to D-League
It will take a new owner who’s presence helps upgrade franchise rep, is willing to pay max bucks for a legendary GM and coach, and can convince a SF whose talent, star power and bball IQ is in the range of Granger to Carmelo.
then we’d really have something.
I like the Udoh pick, but we have a ways to go here.
Thank you for the optimism
I’m getting so tired of the Randolph is better than Udoh because he is younger logic. Or the X per 36 stat claims he’s better. Randolph may grab a lot of rebounds, I can’t once recall him ever doing it in a clutch situation, ever putting a staple on a game. Like half this squad, he has inflated stats created by Nellieball.
I’m optimistic about Udoh mainly because I trust Nellie and Riley’s eye for talent. I question Riley’ ability to get creative with deals, but he knows a good basketball player when he sees one. Stephen Curry (who half this blog blasted for not being athletic enough when drafted) is direct proof. Do I think Udoh will ever be a star? Nah, but on flip side, i don’t think we passed on any stars either. The only player who truly intrigued me was Paul George.
Point is, from what Ive seen in NCAA tourney + all scouting reports. Udoh is a smart basketball player. Something Randolph is not. And while some people can get sucked in by some ‘raw athlete’ give me bball iq anyday over it. I mean unless you prefer monta to Curry
I’m getting so tired of the Randolph is better than Udoh because he is younger logic
I’ve never seen this logic ever.
Pro-Skub for life
by Reverend_Randy on Jun 29, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions























