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Who is the best SF available, who we can afford to sign?

Free agency started today, and although the Warriors wont have a shot at any of the major names this summer, we still have a shot to add some depth at the SF position with a player who can really help us out. My ideal SF is one who can not onlty score, but primarily defend, along with some length and athleticism. Right now we have Reggie Williams, Buike, and Morrow playing the 3 spot; in my opinion Buike is out best option. He can score, defend, and has a great build..but it seems he is the furthest away from being 100% after his injury. And then there is RW and Ammo..both to me are role players, and Morrow is pretty much just a shooter. So we have Reggie starting, he's not bad but; is only 6'6, not a lock down defender, and doesnt have much experience.

Now..lets look at some of our options. I looked over the upcomming free agents (both restricted and unrestricted), along with thier age, height, weight, and salary they were earning in the past season. Here we go..ordered by age.

30. Rasual Butler: 6'7, 205.  3.9mil.

29. Mike Miller: 6'8, 218.  9.7mil

29. Matt Barnes: 6'7, 226.  1.6mil.

28. Kyle Korver: 6'7, 212.  5mil.

28. Jarvis Hayes: 6'8, 228.  2mil.

25. Travis Outlaw: 6'9, 207.  3.6mil.

25. Antoine Wright: 6'7, 215.  1.8mil.

24. Ronnie Brewer: 6'7, 227.  2.7mil.

24. Dorell Wright: 6'9, 210.  2.8mil.

22. Amir Johnson: 6'9, 210.  3.9mil.

 

With these players listed.. I dont feel that Rasual Butler or Jarvis Hayes would fit well with our team. They aren't very athetic and are primarily shooters..Butler can somewhat defend but is the oldest of the group.

Niether Antoine Wright nor Amir Johnson exceit me much either. Wright has not proven him self much and I dont feel would be able to contribute much, Amir Johnson is somewhat like Randolph. A undersized 4, which we dont need more of.

Then there's Matt Barnes, who I loved when he joined us in our run to the play-offs. We would be able to afford him, and probably would love to come back to the Bay..but since he had a starting role on a Championship calibar team, he would mostlikely look elsewhere.

Both Mike Miller and Kyle Korver and shooting specialist, which we really dont need more of. Neither are very athletic nor long. Although Mike Miller is a good defender..I feel he is just way out of our price range.

That leaves us with; Travis Outlaw, Ronnie Brewer, and Dorell Wright. All who are very athletic, good defenders and somewhat long (not so much Brewer). They all can score, and would be able to fill the hole we have at the 3. I like Dorell Wright; but as a stater, I dont think he is much of an upgrade over RW or Morrow. For me its between Outlaw and Brewer. Both can defend, which is what we need, they can also score.. Brewer is a much better shooter then Outlaw, but Outlaw is clearly the longer, more athletic of the two and can certainly take it to the hole. I feel that Outlaw is a better fit for our team than Brewer, he can run the floor, cut to the basket, and most importantly..he can defend and block shots with his length. I feel he would be a great addition to our team. Especially now that the Clipps have Aminu, who has somewhat the same build and attrubuites, I highly doubt they would try to fight for Outlaw to stay..

This is my opinion,  now give me yours. Who, that the Warriors can actually afford..would be the best fit for this team.

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3 things

-Outlaw is a way better shooter than Brewer (in fact Brewer is a bad shooter and is not going to improve because his form is off..he broke his hand at a young age and he can’t shoot normally)
-Brewer is a better slasher
-Outlaw isn’t much of a man defender, Brewer is way better on nthat end

by Montaytotherim on Jul 1, 2010 2:28 AM PDT reply actions  

ok..

instead of correcting my post. who in you opinion is the best SF for the warriors? thats the point of me posting this..

by GSW Fan4Life on Jul 1, 2010 2:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I like Brewer too...

In fact, I also like Corey Brewer. I know this thread is about FAs, but rumor is that the TWolves might unload Corey Brewer, and he could bring the perimeter defense this team has been lacking.

Not sure what it would take to get him (Morrow? Wright?), but I’d take either Brewer as logn as they aren’t more than the MLE.

by ERock386 on Jul 1, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Outlaw...

But if we could get him for next to nothing, I would really like to bring Matt Barnes back as well. I think I was one of the few that actually appreciated Barnes for his defensive hustle and ability to mark a man hard one on one.

No he is not a starter, but a player that can go on to do a job on a guy causing us problems, i.e. a fire extinguisher….once the flames have been put out…bring him off and replace with Outlaw/Williams.

On a side note, I truly dont believe we will see a properly fit Buike this side of Christmas 2010…. just a hunch!

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by BritWarriorGSW on Jul 1, 2010 4:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Brewer.

I like Brewer. I remeber him being a good rebounder for his posiion….or Maybe that’s because he was playing against us.

by GSW_GANSTA on Jul 1, 2010 4:14 AM PDT reply actions  

none of the above

Anthony Randolph should play SF.

by Evanz on Jul 1, 2010 5:17 AM PDT reply actions  

NO!

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by WarriorForLife on Jul 1, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

only if he develops an SF like game. Which is btw not likely.

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by qin on Jul 3, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

except for the fact

that he cannot defend any SFs in the NBA.

I see the Warriors using him as a point-forward (SF) on offense, and then rotating him over to the 4 on defense. Randolph and Udoh may create this rotation.

by eastbayglory on Jul 1, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

stop

that’s a horrible horrible idea. always has been, always will be

by AJC3317 on Jul 1, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tracy McGrady

Kobe sucks
"Frankly your desire to be a seller is just proof of how blinded you are by your hatred of Sabean"-giantsrainman..LOL

by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 1, 2010 6:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Outlaw

He always was popular in Portland, is probably still stunned he was traded away. A couple years ago he was an excellent 3 pt shooter and has the ability to jump out of the gym, can run all day and can play some 4. I see him as an excellent fit for Nellie-ball.

by breaker on Jul 1, 2010 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Outlaw

Though I’d be happy with brewer as well both would be great fits for this team

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by JustSomeName on Jul 1, 2010 8:39 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Id love to get Outlaw or Brewer. The only sad thing is that teams have created the cap space to out bid us if they dont get bron or the other big free agents. Hopefully we can get somebody good instead of re-signing george.

by J-RIDAH on Jul 1, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

This is definitely a good list

And I’ve always like Brewer as a defensive fit; Outlaw would be a great physical fit with his length. Both help out with our smaller backcourt on the defensive end.

Josh Howard is an interesting prospect for the Warriors. Coming off an injury, he may be had for the MLE.

by eastbayglory on Jul 1, 2010 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Outlaw!

I’ve thought for years that Outlaw would be a good fit for this team. He brings size, length and he’s athletetic so he can get out and run. He’s also a decent shooter too.

Josh Howard would be nice too although if Outlaw is cheaper, i’d take him. I’m not sure California and our pot laws are good for Howard.

by Balance on Jul 1, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

He wont be ready 2 play until december tho. Howard that is.

by J-RIDAH on Jul 1, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Outlaw baby!

He’s got game. I think everybody has to remember that we have to pretty much expect at this point that injuries will happen. Plus, I heard the Buke is not doing to well in his rehab. We need all the SF help we can get.

by brewitt on Jul 1, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a big fan of Dorell Wright.

He’s 24, a good rebounder, has developed reliable three point range, a good passer/ball handler, a dedicated defender, and rarely turns the ball over. Of all the FA SFs, he’s got the most potential to be a guy you want around when this team is ready to contend, and he should come really cheap.

by Spider Jerusalem on Jul 1, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Another RFA...

Did anybody else know Rudy Gay was a free agent (restricted)? What do u think about getting him if possible?

by GSBoi86 on Jul 1, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

There’s no way Amir Johnson is a small forward.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 1, 2010 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

If AR doesn't start at SF

isn’t it going to be Buike? If Reggie plays with Ellis and Curry, our defense will be as bad as ever. Buike may at least improve that area for us.

by Evanz on Jul 1, 2010 10:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Who is the best SF available, who we can afford to sign?

  I’m not too high on anyone on that list. I’d rather try for IGGY or even JHo I think.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Travis Outlaw is the best that we could probably afford but the way teams are throwing money around I dont think we can afford him either. The Knicks will have extra bread and so will the Bulls and Heat and Cavs.

by J-RIDAH on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

no to JHo

Iggy, yes, at the 2. And Battier at the 3…
Would requre more horse trading than Riley likely has permission to do.

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by fotd on Jul 2, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Best would be..

Richard Jefferson or Travis Outlaw … besides Lebron that is ;)

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by Ro3ert0 on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Brewer or Outlaw

I like Brewer’s toughness,slashing and “D” !

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by JEFFSJAZZ on Jul 1, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Perry Jones

or Harrison Barnes in next years draft lol. I would like Mike Miller, Travis Outlaw, or Dorrell Wright

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by GSW9 on Jul 1, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Ryan Gomes

He can be had for cheap and can do all the things we need until we can get new ownership in place and make a real move to acquire a legit starting 3.

by legionurmaster on Jul 1, 2010 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Mike Miller and Matt Barnes top my list in that order.

Ryan Gomes is ahead of Ronnie Brewer, but only because he is cheaper.

Miller and MB are vets whose strenghts are completely different. We need vets on this team.

Miller would be the best player we could add offensively. He is a great mover of the ball, excellent vision, skills to match, everyone knows about his shooting touch. His defense and health aren’t as worthy of mention.

Matt Barnes would certianly be welcomed back by us fans, Andris, and most importantly, Monta. Solid defense, solid person, solid coner three’s, good ball movement, plus he is cheaper than Miller.

Though I think Miller has more value, MB is a close second.

Gomes would be a cheap pick up, though signing someone who Nellie would be tempted to play as an undersized 4 is scary.

Brewer would be a terrific pick up, too bad we won’t be able to afford him.

by myk on Jul 1, 2010 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

With Joe Johnson’s contract, I don’t see the Hawks being able to match Childress’

by DubsFan408 on Jul 1, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

T-Mac is an elite passer still and i bet he can defend well.

He’s not a bad option offensively either.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 1, 2010 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Outlaw would be an alright option too ..

If I remember correctly, he had a season where he hit a few game winners… We need someone like that, we haven’t had a game winner since B-DIDDY!

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by Potential on Jul 1, 2010 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

3 way trade with Phoenix and Houston

Just read that Houston is willing to trade Ariza, Battier, and Scola for either Amare or CB in a sign-and-trade deal. The dub’s can offer Monta + BWright to Phoenix to push the deal, or is it not possible?

by mond817 on Jul 2, 2010 1:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Im still amazed at how bad Warrior fans want to get rid of Monta. Never in the history of the game has a 25 ppg scorer been so unappreciated. If we had Iverson in his prime you guys probably would want him gone aswell. The best scorer in Golden State in the last 30 years and people want to trade him for scraps.

by J-RIDAH on Jul 2, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never in the history of the game has a 25 ppg scorer been so unappreciated.

Aww, cheer up.

Most savvy baseball fans these days understand that many of their grandma’s metrics (pitchers’ “wins” and “saves,” or hitters’ “batting average” and “RBI”, e.g.) are not particularly good or predictive measures of players’ value as it relates to winning ballgames.

It was only a matter of time before hoops fans realized that “PPG” was a comparably misleading and grandmotherly measure of a player’s worth. Think of it as evolution.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 2, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

pitchers’ "wins" ?

   Isn’t that how they determine the winner? How could that be a bad stat?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 2, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

It may not be “bad,” but it doesn’t tell you a lot about a pitcher’s value going forward. Basing a contract on wins is generally a poor bet.

I mean, if we’re talking about Cy Young or some other retrospective evaluation, I think it’s a perfectly valid measure. For stuff like that. I’m totally cool with rewarding a player’s luck as well as his skill.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 2, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

ERA

still works for me!

by Evanz on Jul 2, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better than “wins,” for sure, but probably not the best measure around. It’s notoriously sketchy for relief pitchers, since it totally ignores what a reliever does with his inherited runners.

I’m no baseball expert, but give me WHIP, K/9 and K/BB and I’m pretty sure I can make significantly better predictions than the guy with ERA.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 2, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

FIP!!

or even better, xFIP!!

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by philthiest on Jul 2, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Monta as much as you do, but in reality a deal that involves Stoudemire and Ariza, the W’s may have to throw in someone as good as Monta, if not Curry, to make this deal happen. Without Monta, Buike and Reggie and Morrow can all play the 2. I also want to see Monta find some success elsewhere like J-Rich.

by mond817 on Jul 2, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Amare would never come here. And whoever he signs with will not trade him. If Monta was on the market right now he’d get a max deal. We have him for 11 per we should consider ourselves lucky.

by J-RIDAH on Jul 2, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say deal Monta and Beans or Wright for Granger and throw in Hansbrough...

we’d have the big-time wing player who can score in bunches to make up for Monta’s absence, and who’s a better shooter, and less volatile demeanor. Morrow or Buike or Reggie can easily slide into the 2 guard spot. If you ask me, that’s a much better roster than picking up a mediocre SF who won’t deliver on a consistent basis.

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by crossphaded on Jul 2, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

That leaves us with; Travis Outlaw, Ronnie Brewer, and Dorell Wright. All who are very athletic, good defenders and somewhat long

Since when did Outlaw become a good defender?

I do like his offensive game, but besides Korver, he’s the worst defender in this group (though Butler and Miller are bad defenders too).

Brewer isn’t a SF, so I’m going with one of the Wright brothers. Hell, sign them both, because three Wrights make a….never-mind.

by UncleCliffy on Jul 2, 2010 7:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I think Julian might be available too…

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 2, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think outside the box

Let’s get Adam Morrison. First round, #3 pick, can shoot, good size. Did well in summer league last year like AR. That means he is as good as AR!

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by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Jul 3, 2010 8:21 AM PDT reply actions  

That whole list does nothing for me

Except maybe Mike Miller, looks like the Lakers are going to get him, shows yoiu how realistic that was. I also say trading Monta for Ariza, Marvin Williams, or Shane Battier,at this stage of his career in order to make Larry Riley finally look like an effectual GM is a MISTAKE.. I think, with Maggette gone, Nelson may have no choice but to go with our youth this time. And I don’t see any stopgap little additions making us appreciably better.
We’re not going to get Granger or Igyy for Monta now but we may ibe able to swing something in the future.
I don’t see NBA attendance spiking up anytime soon. I do think there will be a hangover from the madness of some of the stupid free agent signings of the last few years. I think having both salary cap and some desirable trading assets could work very well for us.
You are starting to hear about it with talk about Paul, Anthony, and Iggy ( who we could land) becoming available. I’m leery of being too optimistic but, some teams are very overextended, and with the prospect of having a new ownership who would even consider going over the luxury tax, There is the possibility of both big bucks and good exchange value over the next couple of years.

by War Years Legacy on Jul 3, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

looks like the Lakers are going to get him

When they made that deal with Steve Blake, they lost the ability to sign Mike Miller.

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by Reverend_Randy on Jul 3, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

Why would we do that.

Kobe sucks
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by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 3, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would either team do that?

They already have a player like Biedrins in Noah. Our need at center is probably more important than our need at 3. I’d rather have a Buike/Williams tandem at 3 with Biedrins at center than Deng with Turiaf or Udoh starting at center. Ugh, that would just be a nightmare.

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by Reverend_Randy on Jul 3, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh wow

No pun intended.

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by Reverend_Randy on Jul 3, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude thats hella funny.

Kobe sucks
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by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 3, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sad thing is Whoever dont get lebron with Cap space will snatch all the small forwards that are available. Thats why Outlaw,Brewer, And Miller havent signed with any team. I know they waiting because if the Knicks dont land Lebron they’ll pay Outlaw 8 million per to sign.

by J-RIDAH on Jul 3, 2010 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

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