Who is the best SF available, who we can afford to sign?
Free agency started today, and although the Warriors wont have a shot at any of the major names this summer, we still have a shot to add some depth at the SF position with a player who can really help us out. My ideal SF is one who can not onlty score, but primarily defend, along with some length and athleticism. Right now we have Reggie Williams, Buike, and Morrow playing the 3 spot; in my opinion Buike is out best option. He can score, defend, and has a great build..but it seems he is the furthest away from being 100% after his injury. And then there is RW and Ammo..both to me are role players, and Morrow is pretty much just a shooter. So we have Reggie starting, he's not bad but; is only 6'6, not a lock down defender, and doesnt have much experience.
Now..lets look at some of our options. I looked over the upcomming free agents (both restricted and unrestricted), along with thier age, height, weight, and salary they were earning in the past season. Here we go..ordered by age.
30. Rasual Butler: 6'7, 205. 3.9mil.
29. Mike Miller: 6'8, 218. 9.7mil
29. Matt Barnes: 6'7, 226. 1.6mil.
28. Kyle Korver: 6'7, 212. 5mil.
28. Jarvis Hayes: 6'8, 228. 2mil.
25. Travis Outlaw: 6'9, 207. 3.6mil.
25. Antoine Wright: 6'7, 215. 1.8mil.
24. Ronnie Brewer: 6'7, 227. 2.7mil.
24. Dorell Wright: 6'9, 210. 2.8mil.
22. Amir Johnson: 6'9, 210. 3.9mil.
With these players listed.. I dont feel that Rasual Butler or Jarvis Hayes would fit well with our team. They aren't very athetic and are primarily shooters..Butler can somewhat defend but is the oldest of the group.
Niether Antoine Wright nor Amir Johnson exceit me much either. Wright has not proven him self much and I dont feel would be able to contribute much, Amir Johnson is somewhat like Randolph. A undersized 4, which we dont need more of.
Then there's Matt Barnes, who I loved when he joined us in our run to the play-offs. We would be able to afford him, and probably would love to come back to the Bay..but since he had a starting role on a Championship calibar team, he would mostlikely look elsewhere.
Both Mike Miller and Kyle Korver and shooting specialist, which we really dont need more of. Neither are very athletic nor long. Although Mike Miller is a good defender..I feel he is just way out of our price range.
That leaves us with; Travis Outlaw, Ronnie Brewer, and Dorell Wright. All who are very athletic, good defenders and somewhat long (not so much Brewer). They all can score, and would be able to fill the hole we have at the 3. I like Dorell Wright; but as a stater, I dont think he is much of an upgrade over RW or Morrow. For me its between Outlaw and Brewer. Both can defend, which is what we need, they can also score.. Brewer is a much better shooter then Outlaw, but Outlaw is clearly the longer, more athletic of the two and can certainly take it to the hole. I feel that Outlaw is a better fit for our team than Brewer, he can run the floor, cut to the basket, and most importantly..he can defend and block shots with his length. I feel he would be a great addition to our team. Especially now that the Clipps have Aminu, who has somewhat the same build and attrubuites, I highly doubt they would try to fight for Outlaw to stay..
This is my opinion, now give me yours. Who, that the Warriors can actually afford..would be the best fit for this team.
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3 things
-Outlaw is a way better shooter than Brewer (in fact Brewer is a bad shooter and is not going to improve because his form is off..he broke his hand at a young age and he can’t shoot normally)
-Brewer is a better slasher
-Outlaw isn’t much of a man defender, Brewer is way better on nthat end
ok..
instead of correcting my post. who in you opinion is the best SF for the warriors? thats the point of me posting this..
I like Brewer too...
In fact, I also like Corey Brewer. I know this thread is about FAs, but rumor is that the TWolves might unload Corey Brewer, and he could bring the perimeter defense this team has been lacking.
Not sure what it would take to get him (Morrow? Wright?), but I’d take either Brewer as logn as they aren’t more than the MLE.
I like Outlaw...
But if we could get him for next to nothing, I would really like to bring Matt Barnes back as well. I think I was one of the few that actually appreciated Barnes for his defensive hustle and ability to mark a man hard one on one.
No he is not a starter, but a player that can go on to do a job on a guy causing us problems, i.e. a fire extinguisher….once the flames have been put out…bring him off and replace with Outlaw/Williams.
On a side note, I truly dont believe we will see a properly fit Buike this side of Christmas 2010…. just a hunch!
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Brewer.
I like Brewer. I remeber him being a good rebounder for his posiion….or Maybe that’s because he was playing against us.
NO!
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by WarriorForLife on Jul 1, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
except for the fact
that he cannot defend any SFs in the NBA.
I see the Warriors using him as a point-forward (SF) on offense, and then rotating him over to the 4 on defense. Randolph and Udoh may create this rotation.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 1, 2010 6:48 AM PDT reply actions
Outlaw
He always was popular in Portland, is probably still stunned he was traded away. A couple years ago he was an excellent 3 pt shooter and has the ability to jump out of the gym, can run all day and can play some 4. I see him as an excellent fit for Nellie-ball.
Outlaw
Though I’d be happy with brewer as well both would be great fits for this team
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by JustSomeName on Jul 1, 2010 8:39 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
This is definitely a good list
And I’ve always like Brewer as a defensive fit; Outlaw would be a great physical fit with his length. Both help out with our smaller backcourt on the defensive end.
Josh Howard is an interesting prospect for the Warriors. Coming off an injury, he may be had for the MLE.
Outlaw!
I’ve thought for years that Outlaw would be a good fit for this team. He brings size, length and he’s athletetic so he can get out and run. He’s also a decent shooter too.
Josh Howard would be nice too although if Outlaw is cheaper, i’d take him. I’m not sure California and our pot laws are good for Howard.
Outlaw baby!
He’s got game. I think everybody has to remember that we have to pretty much expect at this point that injuries will happen. Plus, I heard the Buke is not doing to well in his rehab. We need all the SF help we can get.
I'm a big fan of Dorell Wright.
He’s 24, a good rebounder, has developed reliable three point range, a good passer/ball handler, a dedicated defender, and rarely turns the ball over. Of all the FA SFs, he’s got the most potential to be a guy you want around when this team is ready to contend, and he should come really cheap.
by Spider Jerusalem on Jul 1, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions
Another RFA...
Did anybody else know Rudy Gay was a free agent (restricted)? What do u think about getting him if possible?
There’s no way Amir Johnson is a small forward.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 1, 2010 10:12 AM PDT reply actions
If AR doesn't start at SF
isn’t it going to be Buike? If Reggie plays with Ellis and Curry, our defense will be as bad as ever. Buike may at least improve that area for us.
Who is the best SF available, who we can afford to sign?
I’m not too high on anyone on that list. I’d rather try for IGGY or even JHo I think.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The Best would be..
Richard Jefferson or Travis Outlaw … besides Lebron that is ;)
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Brewer or Outlaw
I like Brewer’s toughness,slashing and “D” !
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or Harrison Barnes in next years draft lol. I would like Mike Miller, Travis Outlaw, or Dorrell Wright
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Ryan Gomes
He can be had for cheap and can do all the things we need until we can get new ownership in place and make a real move to acquire a legit starting 3.
Mike Miller and Matt Barnes top my list in that order.
Ryan Gomes is ahead of Ronnie Brewer, but only because he is cheaper.
Miller and MB are vets whose strenghts are completely different. We need vets on this team.
Miller would be the best player we could add offensively. He is a great mover of the ball, excellent vision, skills to match, everyone knows about his shooting touch. His defense and health aren’t as worthy of mention.
Matt Barnes would certianly be welcomed back by us fans, Andris, and most importantly, Monta. Solid defense, solid person, solid coner three’s, good ball movement, plus he is cheaper than Miller.
Though I think Miller has more value, MB is a close second.
Gomes would be a cheap pick up, though signing someone who Nellie would be tempted to play as an undersized 4 is scary.
Brewer would be a terrific pick up, too bad we won’t be able to afford him.
T-Mac is an elite passer still and i bet he can defend well.
He’s not a bad option offensively either.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 1, 2010 5:55 PM PDT reply actions
Outlaw would be an alright option too ..
If I remember correctly, he had a season where he hit a few game winners… We need someone like that, we haven’t had a game winner since B-DIDDY!
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3 way trade with Phoenix and Houston
Just read that Houston is willing to trade Ariza, Battier, and Scola for either Amare or CB in a sign-and-trade deal. The dub’s can offer Monta + BWright to Phoenix to push the deal, or is it not possible?
Im still amazed at how bad Warrior fans want to get rid of Monta. Never in the history of the game has a 25 ppg scorer been so unappreciated. If we had Iverson in his prime you guys probably would want him gone aswell. The best scorer in Golden State in the last 30 years and people want to trade him for scraps.
Never in the history of the game has a 25 ppg scorer been so unappreciated.
Aww, cheer up.
Most savvy baseball fans these days understand that many of their grandma’s metrics (pitchers’ “wins” and “saves,” or hitters’ “batting average” and “RBI”, e.g.) are not particularly good or predictive measures of players’ value as it relates to winning ballgames.
It was only a matter of time before hoops fans realized that “PPG” was a comparably misleading and grandmotherly measure of a player’s worth. Think of it as evolution.
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pitchers’ "wins" ?
Isn’t that how they determine the winner? How could that be a bad stat?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 2, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It may not be “bad,” but it doesn’t tell you a lot about a pitcher’s value going forward. Basing a contract on wins is generally a poor bet.
I mean, if we’re talking about Cy Young or some other retrospective evaluation, I think it’s a perfectly valid measure. For stuff like that. I’m totally cool with rewarding a player’s luck as well as his skill.
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by Sleepy Freud on Jul 2, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Better than “wins,” for sure, but probably not the best measure around. It’s notoriously sketchy for relief pitchers, since it totally ignores what a reliever does with his inherited runners.
I’m no baseball expert, but give me WHIP, K/9 and K/BB and I’m pretty sure I can make significantly better predictions than the guy with ERA.
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by Sleepy Freud on Jul 2, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
FIP!!
or even better, xFIP!!
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I love Monta as much as you do, but in reality a deal that involves Stoudemire and Ariza, the W’s may have to throw in someone as good as Monta, if not Curry, to make this deal happen. Without Monta, Buike and Reggie and Morrow can all play the 2. I also want to see Monta find some success elsewhere like J-Rich.
I say deal Monta and Beans or Wright for Granger and throw in Hansbrough...
we’d have the big-time wing player who can score in bunches to make up for Monta’s absence, and who’s a better shooter, and less volatile demeanor. Morrow or Buike or Reggie can easily slide into the 2 guard spot. If you ask me, that’s a much better roster than picking up a mediocre SF who won’t deliver on a consistent basis.
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That leaves us with; Travis Outlaw, Ronnie Brewer, and Dorell Wright. All who are very athletic, good defenders and somewhat long
Since when did Outlaw become a good defender?
I do like his offensive game, but besides Korver, he’s the worst defender in this group (though Butler and Miller are bad defenders too).
Brewer isn’t a SF, so I’m going with one of the Wright brothers. Hell, sign them both, because three Wrights make a….never-mind.
Think outside the box
Let’s get Adam Morrison. First round, #3 pick, can shoot, good size. Did well in summer league last year like AR. That means he is as good as AR!
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by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Jul 3, 2010 8:21 AM PDT reply actions
That whole list does nothing for me
Except maybe Mike Miller, looks like the Lakers are going to get him, shows yoiu how realistic that was. I also say trading Monta for Ariza, Marvin Williams, or Shane Battier,at this stage of his career in order to make Larry Riley finally look like an effectual GM is a MISTAKE.. I think, with Maggette gone, Nelson may have no choice but to go with our youth this time. And I don’t see any stopgap little additions making us appreciably better.
We’re not going to get Granger or Igyy for Monta now but we may ibe able to swing something in the future.
I don’t see NBA attendance spiking up anytime soon. I do think there will be a hangover from the madness of some of the stupid free agent signings of the last few years. I think having both salary cap and some desirable trading assets could work very well for us.
You are starting to hear about it with talk about Paul, Anthony, and Iggy ( who we could land) becoming available. I’m leery of being too optimistic but, some teams are very overextended, and with the prospect of having a new ownership who would even consider going over the luxury tax, There is the possibility of both big bucks and good exchange value over the next couple of years.
by War Years Legacy on Jul 3, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions
looks like the Lakers are going to get him
When they made that deal with Steve Blake, they lost the ability to sign Mike Miller.
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by Reverend_Randy on Jul 3, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
No
Why would we do that.
Kobe sucks
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by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 3, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would either team do that?
They already have a player like Biedrins in Noah. Our need at center is probably more important than our need at 3. I’d rather have a Buike/Williams tandem at 3 with Biedrins at center than Deng with Turiaf or Udoh starting at center. Ugh, that would just be a nightmare.
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by Reverend_Randy on Jul 3, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh wow
No pun intended.
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by Reverend_Randy on Jul 3, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude thats hella funny.
Kobe sucks
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by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 3, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions

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