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Polling GSoM: Anthony Morrow to Sign Offer Sheet with New Jersey Nets for Three Years $12 Million, Should Golden State Warriors Match?

Well, it looks like the New Jersey Nets have agreed to terms with Anthony Morrow on a three year contract that would pay him $12 million over the next three seasons. Morrow is a restricted free agent, but after investing $80 million dollars in David Lee, early reports are that the Warriors are not expected to match the contract. With the Warriors current roster looking thin on the wings do you think the Warriors should hold onto Morrow at $4 million per year?

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Should the Warriors match the Nets 3 yr $12 million offer for Anthony Morrow?
YES!! We will need his outside shooting and can't afford to let a good wing player go
1615 votes
Meh. I like the guy but this shouldn't have much of an effect on the team either way
431 votes
No way!! $12 million is way to much for a one trick pony
332 votes

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Wow… this hurts… really does

His name is Bond, Brock Bond, and his adopted father? ME, any questions?

by PiKAgiant on Jul 10, 2010 12:48 AM PDT reply actions  

However i really dont know if he's worth that much...

i dont know how much money the dubs have to throw around to keep him and then go after a small forward in FA

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 10, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

kelenna leaving was more painful.

turiaf too.

I think the Warriors will let Morrow go.

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by girltothemax on Jul 10, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously they will, i mean, there’s no way they have the money now… i mean, it really hurts, but i’m still going to put things in perspective, Morrow brought the team a kick out shooter, a sharp shooter, who’s that now? well we’ll see, however, the dude wasn’t good at D at all (a common theme). And I totally agree with Kelenna, i’ll take Kelenna over Morrow, but i don’t know how he’ll do after the injury

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 10, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now that ya’ mention it, Curry does provide our outside shooting now. I’m a big fan of Morrow, though. So deadly on offense. Not as good as Curry, though.

Go Andris's free throw shooting!

by Naticus2 on Jul 10, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

One player does not represent a team’s 3-pt shooting ability. Particularly in the Warriors system you need a plethora of shooters.

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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Jul 10, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take Morrow over Turiaf. Morrow is cheaper and we have fewer wing players.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 10, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree!!! Losing Buike, AR and Turiaf were bad enough but I’m excited about Lee so IMO its worth it. But if we lose Morrow I will be upset.

by NBAPrincess09 on Jul 11, 2010 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

it would be good to keep him. if curry is off the court, we can trust morrow to take control of that shooting.

by C-rad on Jul 13, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

we do NOT need morrow

He’s a great shooter. That’s it. He can’t create his own shot, his defense is below average, and his rebounding/assists/intangibles are almost nonexistant. We will have plenty of scoring next year between ellis, curry, and lee.

What we need is defense and rebounding so we stop losing those 120-110 games every other night. Morrow has his strengths (shooting) but honestly that is NOT what the warriors need right now. I don’t know who else is available, but defense/rebounding from a wing player is what the W’s sorely need.

by ucsdgoldenbear on Jul 10, 2010 12:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Every contender has shooters

You need them to win, if Morrow leaves we will have 1 shooter who is also a ball handler. Teams need an off ball shooter, Morrow was ours

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by dubzfan on Jul 10, 2010 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

who's that shooter

Curry? I dunno about Watson, he can hit the deep ball, but we’ve depleted that department big time. I just don’t trust Monta from the three point line at all

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 10, 2010 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Curry yes

This is why we need Ammo, Curry can’t be the PG and main sharpshooter. He could but it’d suck, every good team has these guys, we happen to have one and were letting him walk for a cheap contract. Dumb

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by dubzfan on Jul 10, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it's not like the warriors are going to stroll into the season with the team

they got now, that would be obviously dumb. Let’s wait and see what happens with morrow, and if he’s gone (which seems likely) what are the other options that are out there? I’m just wondering what else is out there that can join the warriors

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 10, 2010 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

agree that curry shouldn't be the only shooter and ball-handler... but

Morrow would be nice to have since he can shoot, but I just don’t think he should be a priority right now. I would rather see that money spent on a good defender/rebounder since this team has enough scoring potential. Nelson’s teams never have trouble scoring, it’s the rebounding/defense that loses us games. The first guy that comes to mind was Bruce Bowen (an asshole) but he could nail the corner 3 while playing shut-down defense. If there is someone like him around…

by ucsdgoldenbear on Jul 10, 2010 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basically Morrow would be a compliment

There are definitely shooters on this team, and BRUCE BOWEN (OMG FRESNO) would be awesome, but haha, is he even a free agent? that’d be tight. But is it bad i’m on the wagon of Brewer? poor shooter, but good defender and rebounder

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 10, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha not ACTUALLY bruce bowen

just someone like him… i think he retired anyways…

But yea, my point still remains. I just think the W’s need defense more than offense, and if we can afford both morrow and a defender then I’m fine with that. But if i had to only pick 1, it would be D.

by ucsdgoldenbear on Jul 10, 2010 1:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha, mah bad!

but yea, got the BAY AREA TIES for Bruce Bowen… Defense would be ideal, but a defender that could hit the 3? obviously that’s probably tough to find in FA this year

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 10, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

if Morrow leaves we will have 1 shooter who is also a ball handler. Teams need an off ball shooter, Morrow was ours

Yeah, we won’t be able to play nellie ball without a More-O . Now Rudolf, Rony,BlueKitty, and Anthony look better than DLee and no one?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

There’s always Joe Ingles ;o).

Go Andris's free throw shooting!

by Naticus2 on Jul 10, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s a pretty good rebounder

Thing A

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by sam23 on Jul 10, 2010 3:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Match

Because he does 2 things well, one of those things at an elite level.

I’m 100% wait and see with the Lee deal, but Morrow is so uniquely “our” guy in that all other 29 teams could have had him several times over but Mullin and Nelson saw what other team’s did not. Specifically, that this guy was, at worst, an NBA rotation player.

Beyond that, he’s a hard worker, a fiery personality and, by all accounts, a great guy. Everything a fan could want in a player (except for athletic ability).

Derrick Coleman is my power animal.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 10, 2010 12:59 AM PDT reply actions  

I'll say this about the Lee deal

it really has to be a Wait and see, right? He is a great guy, but i’m looking at dudes that can ball on the floor, he can definitely do it, but the problem is, there’s no D from his end, and he’s a catch and shoot 3 point shooter, am i wrong on that?

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 10, 2010 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

DLee is not a catch and shoot 3 pt shooter, AM is, sorry if I misread your comment.

by hardcore on Jul 10, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

yea, meant that as Morrow as the catch and shoot

it’s cooool

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 10, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lee might turn out to be an okay defender at PF. He was trying to defend C’s. He’s undersized for that.

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by Naticus2 on Jul 10, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't hurt too much...

I think Morrow’s game took a step backwards last season. He was a a sharp shooter that wasn’t too sharp. Both his FG and 3pt %‘s were down from the previous year. He had more minutes but wasn’t very effective.

by turbulence24 on Jul 10, 2010 1:00 AM PDT reply actions  

His FG and 3pt percentages went down very slightly from their previously ridiculous levels. He still finished with a 597 TS% which is outstanding.

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by sam23 on Jul 10, 2010 3:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which is higher than his rookie year .588 TS% and at a higher volume I might add.

by WYK on Jul 10, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa. Nice. So he improved despite not shooting as accurately. Very impressive. I love him on offense.

Go Andris's free throw shooting!

by Naticus2 on Jul 10, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

it was because I had high hopes for him but he did not live up to my expectations

by turbulence24 on Jul 10, 2010 1:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I love Kyle Korver

and if he is worth 3 years and $15 million like the Bulls just signed him for then Anthony Morrow is worth 3 years and $12 million.

Channing Frye just got 5 years and $30 million to be a PF version of Morrow and all the other good shooters out there.

One trick pony? Maybe. But he’s an award winning, best in show pony that is better at that one trick than anyone else in the NBA or at least in the top 3. That is worth 7% of our salary cap.

by CraigInSanJose on Jul 10, 2010 1:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Totally agree

Korver is getting mire and us a “1 trick pint”, as someone so eloquently put it earlier.
We need consistent outside shooting to keep opposing defenders honest.

by Dubs Dima on Jul 10, 2010 9:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

This sucks

I’m not sure if Morrow is worth all of that money, but it sucks seeing everyone on the team disappear. It’s like breaking up the We Believe team all over again, except on a lower level. lol.

by Precise Films Productions on Jul 10, 2010 1:21 AM PDT reply actions  

what i want to know, is if the sale has anything to do with it

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by PiKAgiant on Jul 10, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

what i want to know, is if the sale has anything to do with it

 yeah, no one left in the office except the janitor pulling the strings?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's not true...

We still have Tom Abdenour, the team doctor!

by turbulence24 on Jul 10, 2010 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

more importantly,

Thunder got axed! or as adonal used to say… “TUNDER”

by ucsdgoldenbear on Jul 10, 2010 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

we only have beans and ellis from We Believe =(

and they were the reason the 07 team was broken up (to get money to pay them)and now we can’t get rid of them :>)

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are not breaking up a playoff team

I like Morrow and I hope they keep him.Every team needs a legit sniper.If they don’t keep him then you know they think he is a one trick pony or they just can’t afford him.

by danthemanfresno2006 on Jul 10, 2010 5:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure if Morrow is worth all of that money…

All that money? $12 million is nothing in NBA salary terms.

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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Jul 10, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's more than Morrow just being a "shooter"

we’ve lost significant 4 guys from our team last year, possibly 5 if Morrow leaves. It almost seems like we have a whole new team… the CHEMISTRY we had last year might not be there next year.

by jpees on Jul 10, 2010 1:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

We never even got to see them play fully healthy, especially with Azubuike and Wright being out for the whole season.

We were so deep. haha.

by Precise Films Productions on Jul 10, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not so concerned with that as the CHEMISTRY from last year didnt seem to do much good

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by sam23 on Jul 10, 2010 3:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even healthy that wasn’t a playoff team last season. Talent >>>>>>>Chemistry.

That being said Morrow does one thing exceptionally well and I would like to see him back, but I can understand if we can’t or won’t match. We can spend the $$ else where.

Thing B

by warriorsscore110 on Jul 10, 2010 8:43 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Chemestry?

Starting with “it just can’t” followed by Jackson’s hissy fit followed by by getting suspended in the preseason followed by a rash of injuries followed by “I won’t do it” followed by some serious PT by the likes of Mikki Moore, Cartier Martin, D. George and “The Pink Mamba” all culminating in the last game of the year where the Warriors actually managed to run out of players for the second time that season.

So I agree, the last thing I’d be tripping about is preserving last year’s chemistry. This is of course, unless your primary rooting interest last year was the discovery of the secret of how to chemically engineer a clusterf*ck.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 10, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec rec rec...
Starting with "it just can’t" followed by Jackson’s hissy fit followed by by getting suspended in the preseason followed by a rash of injuries followed by "I won’t do it" followed by some serious PT by the likes of Mikki Moore, Cartier Martin, D. George and "The Pink Mamba" all culminating in the last game of the year where the Warriors actually managed to run out of players for the second time that season.

This is a depressing and hilarious season recap. It’s kind of hard to believe all of that really happened last season… Ugh.

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by olympicmike on Jul 10, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

So you agree with this rationale that because the team was bad last year there is no reason to attempts to keep Morrow? That is terrible reasoning.

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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Jul 10, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did I say that?
This is a depressing and hilarious season recap. It’s kind of hard to believe all of that really happened last season… Ugh.

I think I was pretty clear why I rec’d the comment.

For the record, I think “chemistry” is a bad argument. I think we should keep Morrow, but chemistry has nothing to do with it.

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by olympicmike on Jul 10, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not so concerned with that as the CHEMISTRY from last year didnt seem to do much good

You must have failed science? The chemistry was superb, a bunch of scrubs beat some good teams in that run to screw up our draft position and secure nellies record.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Both being Charlotte boys and all

Wow, din’t think about that. Maybe this is a plan to get Binky to the nets? How far is NJay from Charolet?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Randolph and Morrow were best friends. Morrow going to the Nets will allow them to hang out. I’m sure he wants to go. Sadly.

Go Andris's free throw shooting!

by Naticus2 on Jul 10, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

ummm

chemistry is important, but let’s not forget we were 26-56 last year. Whatever chemistry we had wasn’t working.

by ucsdgoldenbear on Jul 10, 2010 1:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, but we were playing games with Tolliver and Hunter as our starting big men.

I don’t see how we’re supposed to win with only 6-7 healthy players that consist of a couple D-League callups.

by Precise Films Productions on Jul 10, 2010 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Morrow himself was undrafted… not much different than a D-League callup

Thing A

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by sam23 on Jul 10, 2010 3:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Randolph, Biedrins, Turiaf, Maggette, Wright, Azubuike, etc missed games last season.

Actually, every single player that was from the Warriors training camp that year got injured. We never got to see how good/bad they would be as a full team.

It’s kind of like the We Believe team. We never got to see them healthy until the last 21 games of the season when they went 16-5 with the toughest remaining schedule in the league (9-1 in the last 10 games) to clinch a playoff berth on the last game of the year resulting in them pulling off the greatest upset of all time against the Dallas Mavericks in such an extreme, surprising fashion. If they never got healthy, they would have missed the playoffs and people would have never found out that they were actually a pretty good team.

I’m not saying the 09-10 team is like the We Believe team, I’m just saying that a healthy team can make a difference than a team that only has about 6-8 players healthy.

by Precise Films Productions on Jul 10, 2010 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

true

but like he said, we were really injured last year and had to resort to 3 D-Leaguers and Devean George… I think we would’ve been at least a little better if we had AR, Wright, and Biedrins for more games

by jpees on Jul 10, 2010 2:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even Azubuike was out for the whole year

Who knows what kind of difference he would have made if he got to play. All we really needed to do was stay healthy.

And it was more than 3. I think we also had Cartier Martin and Coby Karl.

by Precise Films Productions on Jul 10, 2010 2:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Channing Frye just got paid like $27 mil also and I’m not aware of him doing anything on court besides hitting 3pters.

Whatever Sabean thinks about the IQ of the average baseball fan, you just proved him right.

by cybermaldonado on Jul 10, 2010 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just remembered that Phoenix re-upped him for a pretty sizable deal. Too bad there’s no edit function for me to include him on the list.

by WYK on Jul 10, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

My sentiments exactly WYK......

Shooters do not come cheap…….and Morrow is a great teammate and contributes to chemistry well, even when on the bench

by Dubs Dima on Jul 10, 2010 9:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The killer is that Morrow can and should get better

Kyle Korver is who he is, for better and for worse.

Redick and Frye can grow into more set roles, and that’s about it.

Morrow has time to become a better all-around player than he is right now, and we’ve seen it the past little while.

by dprodigy19 on Jul 10, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sharpshooter

Paying Morrow 4 Millions a year for one of the best sharpshooter in the NBA is cheap. Ray Allen well past his prime is getting 10 Million a year! I absolutely agree with previous posts stating Curry can’t be the only reliable shooter from the outside especially if he’s our PG. Monta shouldn’t be going anywhere. We need his slashing and kick out ability to keep the defense honest. Curry and Morrow as options makes the Warrior that more dangerous. Hopefully, Bell is the defensive guard we need to lock down on opposing team’s SG. (Mainly Kobe!)

by anhdazman on Jul 10, 2010 2:37 AM PDT reply actions  

The Warriors are depressing...

What are they doing? Chemistry is important. Teams get it by learning to play together. This is a team sport.

I feel sorry for Lee cause he ain’t gonna do nothin for this team, and people on this blog will be the first to down him when he fails… which he will. The Warriors beat the Knicks last year badly with Lee playing most of the game. They are paying him 80 mil and he is already 27?? Curry even blocked his shots.

Why did they just trade the entire bench leaving just Morrow and CJ, both of whom Riley and company will get rid off and bring in some people like Bell?? and Guz whatever?

Well the good thing is I will get more work done this fall and winter cause I refuse to watch this mess. I wonder how Curry is feeling long about now?

The luck of the Warriors, new draft pick is now injured… this team is????

by deja8 on Jul 10, 2010 2:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

David Lee had that monster 27/20/10 triple double (I’m not sure if that’s the right statistics) and the Warriors still beat the Knicks by 10+. Monta, Biedrins and Randolph weren’t even playing that game.

There is a chance Lee could still help out, though. Even though we lose depth and defense from the trade, Lee can be a lot better playing alongside Stephen Curry.

by Precise Films Productions on Jul 10, 2010 2:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think with how weak we’ve been at rebounding, he will almost certainly help on defense. As far as offense, he and Curry will make a killing working the two man game.

Go Andris's free throw shooting!

by Naticus2 on Jul 10, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chemistry is important. Teams get it by learning to play together. This is a team sport.

It is, but with the right teammates, chemistry is something that can be established instantly.

I feel sorry for Lee cause he ain’t gonna do nothin for this team, and people on this blog will be the first to down him when he fails… which he will. The Warriors beat the Knicks last year badly with Lee playing most of the game

You just said that this is a team sport. Lee makes everyone better in some way or another.

by Spee-D on Jul 10, 2010 2:49 AM PDT reply actions  

4 million would make Morrow a bargain...

4 million per year is solid value for Morrow. Look at the comparable players based on salary and WP48.

Anthony Morrow
2010 WP48 .082
2009 WP48 .105
Avg WP48 .095

Non-Rookie Deal SG/SF making 4 million or less in 2010 with WP48:

Delonte West .121
Larry Hughes .023
Rasual Butler .043
Ryan Gomes .023
Roger Mason .038
Willie Green .011
Charlie Bell -.004
Carlos Delfino .164
Damien Wilkins .117
Kelenna Azubuike .231
Grant Hill .135
Jamario Moon .191
Tony Allen .156
Maurice Evans .073
Dahntay Jones -.005
Ricky Davis -.022
DeShawn Stevenson -.049

So it is possible to get players better than Morrow for 4 million according to WP48 but most of the players on non-rookie deals making 4 million or less are worse.

Now let’s look at what players with comparable WP48 to Morrow’s are getting paid:

Non-Rookie Deals SG/SF in 2010 with WP48 between .082-.105 (Morrow’s career low and high)

Vince Carter 16.3 million
Mike Dunleavy 9.8 million
Jamal Crawford .9 million
Francisco Garcia 5.8 million
Devean George 1.6 million
Michael Finley 1.141 million
 
So aside from aging veterans Morrow would be the lowest paid of the players listed with similar WP48.

These numbers prove to me that Morrow at 4 million a year is great value spending the same amount of cash or less at the SG/SF spot will likely produce a weaker player and players with comparable WP48 are getting paid more than 4 million. Economics wise this seems like a instant match unless you can secure one of the players better than Morrow for less then 4 million. When you factor in that Morrow has an elite skill then it makes it should make this a simple match.

At worst if Morrow doesn’t work out 4 million a year for a 3 point stud can be moved easily.

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by FLAxwless on Jul 10, 2010 3:19 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm uncertain as to why I bother buying Dub's jerseys?

I’m throwing away my Buike/Randolph jerseys. Almost bought an Ammo one, whew! Will the new owners even keep the logo? I’m just going to start buying Dub’s jerseys with my name on the back because I’m not going to be traded… Or does Cohan have that power?

by Warrathlaider on Jul 10, 2010 5:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Keep the Randolph jersey

An “Anthony Randolph rookie jersey” will be pretty valuable/rare 10 years from now after Randolph has made a big name for himself in New York.

by Precise Films Productions on Jul 10, 2010 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

My worst fear

Is that Morrow goes away for nothing. Considering what other shooters have been getting this draft, please please please match Morrow.

If the Dubs dont match is it possible to at least S&T and maybe get something back, like a legit SF?

Take my bags, not my top 3 pick!
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by Badly Browned on Jul 10, 2010 7:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Or if we let him go, it had better mean we need to use the money on an SF.

The AR trade didnt pull me down into the depression like some fans, but the additional loss of Morrow would…

Take my bags, not my top 3 pick!
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by Badly Browned on Jul 10, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps we can work a sign and trade. Doubt it, though. Nets will call our bluff. We can’t afford Morrow.

Go Andris's free throw shooting!

by Naticus2 on Jul 10, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please, please match.

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by Atma Brother ONE on Jul 10, 2010 7:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Morrow is Crucial to Warriors' succes

He should be the number oen back up to Ellis & WIlliams at 2 & 3 playing as much as 30minutes a game . He is young and can score . With Morrow coming off the bench, the Warriors can frequently get 60 points a game from the 2 & 3 positions. Both morrow and C J Watson are critical to having 48 minutes of NO LET UP Production form 1 , 2 & 3. If he Warriors keep Morrow and Watson, they will have 48 minutes of 3 players on the floor who can flat out ht 3 pointers and score form the outside.

If I am wrong tell me how so, because I know I am not.

Letting Morrow go means no more depth at 2 & 3. who is going to be the back up 3? George?

What this team needs to do i re-sign Anthony Toliver for more depth up front and to find a back up center.

by Crazyron on Jul 10, 2010 8:41 AM PDT reply actions  

+1

resigning Tolliver would help a lot if Morrow leaves. what happened to him anyway?

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by TheWarrior on Jul 10, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we need a big man less than a wing, ironically.

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by Naticus2 on Jul 10, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we don’t make the Lee trade, who really knows if we match Morrow’s offer anyway?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 10, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did the Warriors even make Morrow an offer prior to this?

It seems like a good GM would have actually gotten out in front of this whole thing and made him a fair offer weeks ago. An offer that worked for the Warriors and Morrow was happy with. What did Riley expect to happen once all of these teams who had gutted their rosters to try to sign LaBron missed out. It sure seems like the strategy of let Morrow do the negoatiating with someone else really was strange especially considering they have been marketing Morrow like crazy when he wasn’t even under contract. (Draft party etc)..

by Mullin4HOF on Jul 10, 2010 8:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Morrow was offered a cointract and is a restricted free agent

The contract was for less than 2 Million for one year. The Warriors have a right to match the Nets offer and should do so! ASAP!

by Crazyron on Jul 10, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

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The Warriors have a right to match the Nets offer and should do so! ASAPfter waiting the 7 days so that the Net’s cap space is tied up thereby eliminating at least some of their ability to compete with GS for a SF free agent!

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 10, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Re: seems like a good GM would have actually gotten out in front of this whole thing and made him a fair offer weeks ago.

Spoken like someone with a Mullin-themed username. That’s exactly what Mullin did with Murphy, Dunnleavy and the rest. Panicked early and signed them all prior to the RFA year for who knows how much over or under the market price. I’m guessing over on Dunnleavy and Murphy though.

You’d have to think, that Morrow’s agent would have some sort of handle on what he could make, so the Warriors, by acting early, would have likely had to pay more than 3y/$12m. That’s so Mullin! The Warriors can match at $4m if they want to. Let’s wait a week and see what they do. .

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 10, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mully learned his lesson tho, and with Cj & KAz later waited as you say

by hardcore on Jul 10, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point about Buike.

Although Mullin still has a horrific track record when it comes to FA signings and contract extensions.

C.J. was Riley’s non-move and that was also combined with declaring to the NBA that he’d match, so don’t even try to sign him. Which is what scares me about the Morrow thing. No such proclamation was made.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 10, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Guess is Morrow is Staying

The Warriors do not have anyone else at the shooting guard/small forward position. Charles Bell is one but he’s 6’3, there’s Reggie Williams better height at 6’6, then there’s Monta Ellis who starts.

The Warriors need to keep Morrow. Imagine for a few minutes a night either Morrow or Williams spreading out defenses allowing Curry to drive to find an open Lee in the paint or Morrow or Williams in the corner for three.

4 million is also very cheap for Morrow’s ability to shoot the ball as well.

by Deckloaded on Jul 10, 2010 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

I love AMo and hope we keep him, but this site has been ridiculous over the last few days

Doesn’t anyone want a better team. I know our players beocme like fmaily members but isn;t winning and making the playoffs the goal? Azi, Rony, AR, now Amo, nice little players. I feel like they are my brothers but I think its time to admit our talent level is not what we perciev it to be and to make some moves to imprive our team. Whether any of you like it or not David Lee is a big upgrade over what we let go and If we let Amo go to sign a very good 3 then its all good.

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by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Where do you have the Warriors in the West next year?

Considering they can’t get better via cap space (either FA’s or unbalanced $ trades) and hopefully won’t be bad enough to get a top-5 pick, it is hard to imagine the team getting much better than they are in October for 2-3 seasons.

(for the record, I have them as the 10th best team in the West right now)

by dprodigy19 on Jul 10, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

They're under the cap by $14M next year

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by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's truly a no brainer

There is really no down side to matching the offer. He can always be traded later for that price.

Last season, while retaining his sharp-shooter status he improved his ball handling and defense from “non-existant” to “terrible” and there’s no reason to suspect he won’t continue to improve somewhat in the future. He’s a guy who can come off the bench and change games once in a while, and those folks don’t grow on trees.

I’d be astonished if they fail to do so.

Of course, I’ve been astonished so many times by our f-d up FO I should carry a defibrillator with me at all times.

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by v7i7c on Jul 10, 2010 9:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Last season, while retaining his sharp-shooter status he improved his ball handling and defense from "non-existant" to "terrible"

and he also showed the ability to drive to the rim ocassionally. Certainly worth as much as
 KKKorver or RedDick ?
   I actually think the Dubs already plan to keep More-O and are using the offer mechanism as a way to draw out the process and let them retain more cap flexibility while seeing how the chips fall.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

KKKorver or RedDick

LOL. Oh my.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 10, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

C’mon man, do you really have to call out posters for honest typos?

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by Sleepy Freud on Jul 10, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

hypocrisy is my copilot

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 10, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jul 10, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before the offseason really kicked in I would have probably said no

But the way the roster is shaping up and the fact it is 3 years (instead of 4 or 5 like most of the contracts have been) I would think the Warriors would have to match this.

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by wallywagon11 on Jul 10, 2010 9:21 AM PDT reply actions  

RFA market

is where the shrewd GMs make gains – just as we were able to wrangle Turiaf away from LA when they couldn’t match, and resigned our own previous RFAs (KAz & CJ IRC) when Mullin was here, NJ is catching us at a vulnerable moment cap wise and with only a week to react we may not be able to match without moving other contracts which in turn might be more valuable later in trades (I’m thinking of the expiring Gadz). NJ has tons of cap now and can afford to overpay slightly for a young good shooter who lacks a complete game.

We “found” Morrow and reaped the benefit of an inexpensive shooter, and now NJ found the opportunity to snag a young shooter. What we decide has a lot to do with what we decide about CJ, and to a greater extent Monta. If we think CJ can be our inexpensive scoring guard off the bench and we plan to keep Monta we may let Morrow go. Remember, Morrow cannot swing to SF the way KAz might have been able to. Letting AM go would be more of a gamble if Monta is flipped for a bigger wing (whether SF or SG) who is not a great shooter (& Mayo rumors persist, that could come into play as well).

What we don’t know is who else Riley has on his list, in his folder, or falls to us in the market. This is one of the highest volume FA/RFA markets in memory & it shouldn’t surprise that the roster of a 26-56 team is churned. That said, the market is also setting the price and 3yr/$4m is not excessive for a pure shooter. It just depends on what is in Riley’s plan – he did say, emphatically, he hopes to add an efficient SF.

by hardcore on Jul 10, 2010 9:43 AM PDT reply actions  

4 million per year for Morrow

thats not terrible, they should match that offer

by Brothaplease09 on Jul 10, 2010 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Sign and trade

how bout we match the offer and trade him to the nets for damion james and draft picks? Damion james can ball and he showed he can play the 3. with these were adding pieces to our young core.

by Indosf on Jul 10, 2010 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Match it please

Morrow provides an element that is not so easy to replace. Especially for significantly less than the MLE

by Dubs Dima on Jul 10, 2010 10:00 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

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(Sorry for regurgitating some of the great points by WYK, Gov’nah and others. I started posting/ranting before reading through the thread…)

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by Sleepy Freud on Jul 10, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice post

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by olympicmike on Jul 10, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Green!

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by wallywagon11 on Jul 10, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Warriors need to match this!! Morrow is my 3rd favorite Warrior not to mention our best outside shooter and one of the best in the league!! I will be really upset if the Warriors let him go.

by NBAPrincess09 on Jul 10, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

I will be really upset if the Warriors let him go.

     Sign More-O before the King gets pissed.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 10, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Larry who is the 3

They got to figure out who they are targeting now. Code Red!! Because R Williams got a lot of Morrows time for having a better all around game and he is not even making a million this upcoming year…if they are trading Monte contract then the should sign Morrow back but if they are trying to keep Monte and use all those expiring contract to get a SF then they might not have the cash or playing time.
My perfect world I would keep Morrow….Cannot beat a pick and roll and Morrow posted in the corner for 3…….Dam

by 707bayallday on Jul 10, 2010 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Ric Bucher just said on Twitter that he doesn't thing the Warriors will match

For my Bay Area tweeps: Ws not expected to match Nets’ offer for Anthony Morrow because they’re right at luxury-tax threshold.

Would be a disaster

by dprodigy19 on Jul 10, 2010 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

i cant handle this mass stupidity

I don’t know what happened with the logic but its gone. What is wrong with you guys?

Morrow is a back up SG at best! Hello! We already have one, who happens to be better at nearly every aspect of the game. Reggie is still a pretty good three point shooeter too. Morrow gets the edge there but losses everywhere else. Are we playing horse? No. Reggie is our back up SG and he’s much better than morrow.

Why on earth would we pay morrow to be a third string sg? Is everyone freaking out cause we have a small roster right now? Stop thinking short term. We’ll need this money for Reggie next year.

Reggie and morrow ar not SF. Sure they could play spot minutes their but get real. If we are going to build a real team they shouldn’t be there at all. And paying 3rd stinger 4mill a year is a bad idea. We need to find a starting SF. Maybe it doesn’t happen this year. I’m okay with that. Save our money for next year or for when one comes along.

Match for morrow only in a sign and trade for a guy we need. At this point we need a back up pg more than a third sting SG. we need watson more than morrow.

I think everyone needs to chill out and look at the big picture here. If we have morrow or williams playing big minutes at the SF we won’t win many games anyways. No need to pay money for those losses.
If we can trade or pick up a legit SF where does morrow fit in? No where. As a back up SF? As injury insurance? No that’s for contenders.

Point is 4 million per year should be used on reggie next year or a SF with our MLE or as part of a sign and trade.

See u later morrow. Congrates to NJ the biggest lossers of FA market.

by Balance on Jul 10, 2010 11:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Larry R. on the radio said he is trying to get a starting SF… so they are trying to make another move and like I wrote earlier.. Reggie was taking his time and makes a lot less then Morrow. Man we need get the starting 5 right. If they keep Monte then they need all that cash for a starting 3. If they trade Monte contract and make Reggie the starter then they can sign Morrow. But they got a week to make that move. A lot of teams are hurting because like the Nets they got nothing thru FA or over paid for talent. We have a centerpiece in Curry build around him.

by 707bayallday on Jul 10, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

So everyone is wanting to keep morrow under the asumption that reggie becomes our starting SF? Where did I miss is billboad?

Even still I don’t buy it. I think monta stays. As of now we have a true pg a true sg a proven pf and a true center. There are probably a ton of SF who are looking at our team now thinking man, I’d like to play with those guys.

Regardless of what this community feels about monta, amongst his peers in the league, he is well respected and thought of. Curry said he the best player he’s ever played with, baron and jackson loved him, etc etc. All of a sudden this team will look attractive SF’s. Like lee said, as long as the main pieces are in place.

I think riley should be able to find his “true blodded SF” now that he has the table set and a couple attractive expiring contracts and the MLE.

So you want to talk about losing Morrow? I could not care less than I do now, even if it was for half that contract.

by Balance on Jul 10, 2010 1:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

If Reggie is going to start it would have to be the 2 not 3. But I would rather lock Reggie up for what 5 million for 3 years. Billy ball. I would take Williams over CJ and Morrow. Loyalty leads to losses. What hurts is that I think they were going to trade Wright or Udoh but because of the wrist injury it stalls the progress. Nets have to overpay for guys they missed on everyone in FA.

by 707bayallday on Jul 10, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's BS

Last I checked we have some $12M Not sure where he gets we’re near the threshold.

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by Badly Browned on Jul 10, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Eh, that may have been before the Lee trade though

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by Badly Browned on Jul 10, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sending them Buike, Ronny, and AR at least covered for $10 million of Lee’s incoming salary, pretty much canceling it out.

by WYK on Jul 10, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Factor in that the Warriors gained 2010 salary in the Maggette deal too

I haven’t run the #‘s yet, but it’s possible if the Nets front-loaded the offer sheet.

by dprodigy19 on Jul 10, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn… terrifying food for thought.

by WYK on Jul 10, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even after all that, I’d still do the Lee trade.

by bleep on Jul 10, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

How dare we trade for an All-Star by trading one player with potential to become a great starter, and trade away a bad contract from a guy that had a career year for cap space back?

That said, we really should keep Morrow. I have a feeling this is a smokescreen so the Nets don’t offer more.

In any case, hardly the worst offseason ever.

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by Yoyo on Jul 10, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Calling David Lee an All-Star is more than a little misleading even if it did happen

He was an injury replacement (I think a double replacement) in an Eastern Conference that wasn’t strong on PF’s.

by dprodigy19 on Jul 10, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

More accurately . . .

Using the term “All-Star” as a synonym for “productive player that you should want on your team” is “more than a little misleading”.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 10, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait… Maggette? Maggette was not valuable. We did fine in that trade. With regard to getting David Lee, he was the best player in that trade. We came out fine on that, too. With regard to Morrow, he’s a bench player. Granted, he’s a good bench player, but we can live without him. Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to keep him, but I can’t say it’s logical/possible to match. If we could have done a sign and trade for him, that’d be great. That wasn’t plausible, though.

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by Naticus2 on Jul 10, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re all missing the point — David Lee IS Corey Maggette. If you don’t like what Corey Maggette brings to the table, fine, but don’t commit twice as much, plus talent, to another all-scoring no-D, pretty-stats, not-many-wins player. Both guys made bad teams even worse last season, despite their gaudy numbers.

Now, it’s possible that Lee will flourish if allowed to play his natural position of power forward. But guess what? Maggette would have flourished if allowed to play his natural position of small forward! He was a consistent winning asset for terrible Clippers team… it was only Nellie’s smallball idiocy that made him a detriment.

P.S.: guess what we need right now? A friggin’ small forward.

This is one step forward, three steps back. We gave up a high-upside big man, two (if not three) useful bench pieces and considerable financial flexibility to overstock at one position and create a hole at another. It’s idiocy at its purest. F.

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by onlxn on Jul 10, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

I must admit I’m kinda surprised at the extreme reaction. Also…

Both guys made bad teams even worse last season, despite their gaudy numbers.

How so? Are you looking at +/- here?

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by olympicmike on Jul 10, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

2009-10 Knicks w/ David Lee playing: -4.1 points per 48 minutes
2009-10 Knicks w/o David Lee playing: -2.8 points per 48 minutes

2008-09 Knicks w/ David Lee playing: -3.4 points per 48 minutes
2008-09 Knicks w/o David Lee playing: -0.7 points per 48 minutes

To be fair, the ‘06-’07 and ‘07-’08 Knicks were better when Lee was on the floor. But considering that he was subbing for a comatose Eddy Curry, I’m not sure how much that’s worth.

Negative net plus-minus numbers don’t necessarily mean a guy’s a bad player, or that he’s not worth acquiring. But if you devote $80 million AND give up on the highest-upside big man you’ve had in fifteen years, you’d like to think you’re getting a player without many warts. David Lee has HUGE warts, in that the Knicks D has crumbled when he’s been in: Lee’s so intent on securing defensive rebounds that opponents are free to just dart straight to the basket. The Knicks actually rebound worse as a team when he plays, despite his big individual numbers. Remind you of anyone?

This trade could work out okay. Maybe Biedrins can provide enough help D to balance out Lee’s weaknesses, and maybe Randolph never pans out into a big asset. But I wouldn’t bet on either of those things happening. We would’ve been much better off with Randolph developing and a slimmer payroll. The amount of we gave up for Lee, both in talent and treasure, suggests that we think he’s going to lead us to the playoffs. Nothing in his career to this point suggests that he’ll be remotely able to do that.

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by onlxn on Jul 10, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is NOT Maggette....

You have to look beyond the numbers and look at the “fit” into the team. Basketball is a game of strategy as well and Maggette was a poor “fit” on the team.

Maggette was just another isolation/ball dominant wing player who happened to extremely efficient. However, Maggette’s role in the offense is similar to Monta Ellis so he didn’t add another option/offensive threat that other teams had to game plan against since only 1 player can have the ball at a time. You guard Monta and Maggette pretty much the same way. He didn’t have the passing ability of Williams or the space stretch 3 pointer of Morrow.

On the other hand you have David Lee who adds a LEGIT pick and roll player to the starting line up to team with Curry/Ellis. He ADDS an OPTION to the offense that the Warriors have been lacking since the days of Chris Webber. This alone makes him an improvement over Corey Maggette. Biedrins is decent PnR but his poor FT% and lack of a jump shot limited the options from the pick and roll to basically… pick and hope Curry/Ellis scores.

So while you can describe both as poor defenders, good rebounders, and highly efficient scorers… they are NOT the same player to the Warriors simply because you can run a Pick and Roll with Curry/Ellis and Lee, but you can’t run a Curry/Ellis and Maggette.

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by FLAxwless on Jul 10, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lee will help our pick & roll, but as you say, Biedrins brings a fair amount to the table on that front as well. No, he doesn’t offer the outside shot, but he’s excellent at catching, cutting and passing. Also, Maggette & Monta actually worked a pretty effective two-man game last year for long stretches. It’s easy to say they wouldn’t work well together, but they often did. LeBron and D-Wade are both iso/ball-dominant wings, after all, and I’d expect that to work out pretty well.

Moreover, my main concerns about Lee are on the other end, as he’s just had terrible defensive results for years now. A move to the four (assuming Biedrins is healthy and still around) will probably help him, but he’s never going to be good on that end, whereas Randolph really does have that potential. A Monta/Curry backcourt is going to let lots of guys get to the hoop… we’ve just committed $80 million to a guy who can’t challenge their shots when they get there.

Lee’s a good player, a better one than Maggette. But he’s not an ideal fit, and he shows no signs of having best-player-on-a-good-team potential. You just can’t give up Anthony Randolph and $80 million for a guy like that.

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by onlxn on Jul 10, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s assuming AR becomes an effective player. I say think there’s 40% chance Randolph becomes AT LEAST as good as Lee is now.

80 million is a fair price for Lee considering Amare got 100 million and Boozer got the same for 1 less year. You can’t fault Lee that he was playing on a team that was shedding contracts and conserving cap space for 2 years in order for the chance to sign Lebron James. New York basically sacrificed the past 2-3 seasons to build cap room, instead of building a competitive team. Lee was the best player on a bad team, but the things he does well contributes to winning: rebounding, scoring efficiently, and passing. If he played any type of defense he would be a MAX player.

For all that I would give up Randolph in a heart beat… it just hurts that Turiaf and Buike were casualties.

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by FLAxwless on Jul 10, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

UPDATED:

Corey Maggette, Anthony Randolph, Anthony Morrow, Kelenna Azubuike & Ronny Turiaf
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David Lee, Carlie Bell, Dan Gadzuric, & Dorrell Wright

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by FLAxwless on Jul 10, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

your point is?

That’s a great trade. Kelenna is the only player in that group who even knows how to dribble. The d-league is our oasis and now we have players who want to BE here. Great job.

by dtomz on Jul 10, 2010 11:54 AM PDT reply actions  

You think Ronny, Buike, and AR didn’t want to be here? You think Morrow wouldn’t prefer to stay here? Among the guys shipped out (or about to ship out), only Maggette might have had doubts about playing here, but at least he was every bit a professional about it unlike the other small forward we dumped off to Charlotte earlier last season.

by WYK on Jul 10, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Contenders need an outside shooter

Morrow is that outside shooter that shoots 46% on 3-pointers. $4 mil/year is totally fair for someone with his skills, and might actually be a little too low.

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by Yoyo on Jul 10, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

We already have 3 shooting guards? Why would we pay for another bench player?

by Balance on Jul 10, 2010 12:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

That’s true. We should trade Monta ASAP.

In my mind, I keep assuming we have already traded Monta.

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by Yoyo on Jul 10, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Steinmetz has in his article that the Warriors do not have to pay the luxury tax if they choose to match the offer given to Anthony Morrow.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 10, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: the Warriors do not have to pay the luxury tax

I think the concern is more about getting too close to the the luxury tax because the still need to do something about the hole at small forward as well as C.J., which is probably going to take some cash.

Here’s a chart from the blog Warriors Works that shows the estimated room that they have after the Lee sign-and-trade.

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by bloodsweatndonuts on Jul 10, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

williams

i have some hope reggie wil. become the shooter 2 replace a. m.
reggie has more strength and allaround game. that said i hate to see morrow leave cuz he can win games for u when he gets hot

by donmega on Jul 10, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes. Reggie is legit and way better than Morrow. Does everyone forget morrow butt planted on the bench once we called up williams? For good reason too. He’s our back up SG we are already paying Bell too much and we don’t need Morrow. He the last piece to a puzzle and we aren’t even close to needing his game.

by Balance on Jul 10, 2010 12:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

According to the Star-Ledger, July 19th seems to be the deadline.

Hold off on that Anthony Morrow celebration for a few days – the Nets won’t actually drop an offer sheet on the Golden State sniper until Monday, which means the Warriors will have until July 19th to decide whether to match it.

Assuming the luxury threshold is the sticking point here, that gives us 9 days to work a Monta trade for a (cheaper) SF, or find a taker for VladRad’s expiring (perhaps taking back a 2-year contract with a lower cap figure?), or be otherwise creative. C’mon Riley, move your a**!!! Morrow at $4M is a total no-brainer. That would be the best contract on the team other than Curry’s rookie deal. To let him walk for nothing would be insane.

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by Sleepy Freud on Jul 10, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Wron. That would be stupid to match. We already have 3 shooeting guards under contract. 2 of which are better than Morrow. Why then do you want a 4th? These guys are not SF and should not play SF. Is everyone now sold on small ball? I thought we moved on?

by Balance on Jul 10, 2010 12:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nah. Do you ever think about why the Warriors were so much better last season than other badteams like the Kings, Wolves, and Nets, despite being the most injured team in NBA history? Their explosive and accurate perimeter game is an underrated factor, imo. Morrow is a huge part of that game. Nellieball requires multiple perimeter gunners. Rememer Barnes, MP2, Jack and Jrich in ’06/07? GSoMer onlxn has shown a correlation between teams that launch a ton of threes and teams that win. If those gunners are among the best outside shooters in NBA history … all the better.

Reggie and Morrow are pretty comparable: Reggie’s shown a bit more ballhandling/passing flair, but Morrow’s a better 3 pt shooter, and has done his thing over a bigger sample size. I also don’t think Monta is as conducive to wins as Morrow, especially when you consider allocation of resources. Last season he was worse; but even on the remote chance he returns ton 07/08 levels, I don’t think he’s worth anywhere close to three times as much as much.

The most obvious way for this team as currently constituted to maximize its win total and sniff the playoffs is to keep our best, most efficient scorers and dump Monta for a full-sized defensive-minded small forward. Losing Morrow for zilch is totally a step in the wrong direction.

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by Sleepy Freud on Jul 10, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree. Good news is, we just grabbed that small forward for a pittance. If it were up to me, I’d frankly match for Morrow and move Monta just for a pick or even cap space (Cleveland could sure use a scorer right now). But then, if it were up to me, we’d still have Anthony Randolph, so what do I know.

Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis

by onlxn on Jul 10, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You totally lost me when u started saying that morrow is better than monta in terms of wins. Totally lost me. If u believe that then I’ve lost all respect for you. Take ur head out of the stats and realize that they are like a bikini. They show a lot but not everything. Morrow is and always will be a role player. Monta was a pretty good role player once too remember. Finding a replacement for montas role that is more effeicent is a very tall order. You are talking about bonified all stars. If u want eliis to be a role player. Talk to the coach. He’s 10x the player morrow is and morrow would admit it. Morrow is expendable, one dimensional and a role player. Let it go. Monta and reggie are much better. Really.

by Balance on Jul 10, 2010 9:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’ve lost all respect for you.

Aw, I’m hurt. Who are you again?

Finding a replacement for montas role that is more effeicent is a very tall order.
You are talking about bonified all stars.
If u want eliis to be a role player.
Talk to the coach.
He’s 10x the player morrow is and morrow would admit it

Haha. Are you trying to say Nellie is better at hoops than Morrow, or is this a free-form poetry slam? That may be the most nonsensical collection of words I’ve encountered since baumerworld left the board. You’re a bonified poet!

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jul 10, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should be a no-brainer, but the FO really has no brains, so we’ll see if thats actually true.

by GSWMaxwell on Jul 10, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

correlation schmorrelation

d league shooters are a dime a dozen. Monta is a scorer, undersized yes, but still of high value to run n gun teams. $4 mill for Morrow isn’t overwhelming, but if we can sign another morrow for half a mill… Adios, kid.
The most obvious way for us to win is to continue to be able to efficiently operate both against m2m and zone with drive and dish players as well as pick n rollers. Be happy with what we got, Oracle is going to be exciting this year.

by dtomz on Jul 10, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

d league shooters are a dime a dozen. Monta is a scorer, undersized yes, but still of high value to run n gun teams. $4 mill for Morrow isn’t overwhelming, but if we can sign another morrow for half a mill… Adios, kid.

You realize that More-O is on track for one of the NBA’s highest career 3 point shooting percentages? He’s not just some average Dleague gunner.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 11, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would be silly not to match. $4M a year for an elite NBA skill, any elite NBA skill, is a bargain.

In an environment where Johan Petro gets a $3.3M/year contract, this is nothing. Renounce CJ, sign Morrow and use the MLE on a SF.

To let Morrow walk for this would be foolish.

by Spider Jerusalem on Jul 10, 2010 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d rather keep CJ than Morrow, and I love Morrow. CJ has some elite skills his own self:

1) He takes better care of the basketball than almost anyone, and
2) he grabs a huge number of steals without drawing whistles.

He’s not as sexy as Morrow, but I think he’s actually the better player, and more useful to us.

Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis

by onlxn on Jul 10, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus CJ has one of the best midrange shots in the league (based off nothing but my eyes though, I really don’t know where people find the stats to verify these types of things).

by belilaugh on Jul 10, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree. Cj takes good shots, hits big shots, he’s fast as all hell, and he a good ball handler and a good back up who know his role.

Morrow doesn’t fit. Monta and williams should man the minutes at sg and I don’t want to see either play SF ever again. Morrow should never play SF either, ever aand never. What is with u guys. First u hate nellie ball then u want to keep morrow for a role that no longer exist unless u start playing SG’s at the SF position. No thank u.

Later morrow.

by Balance on Jul 10, 2010 9:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I suspect the new owners may have some input on this one too.

They have had input on every other move up to this point.

Set a record by getting banned for the 8th time!
After rehab I saw the light and promise to be kinder and gentler!
Probation is a very slippery slope!

by StinkyFingers on Jul 10, 2010 10:52 PM PDT reply actions  

They have had input on every other move up to this point.

 that’s very discouraging news?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jul 11, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

PLEASE MATCH

We need Morrow’s sweet stroke filling it up from the perimeter.Much better to let CJ walk

Dr. Jeff

by JEFFSJAZZ on Jul 11, 2010 11:43 AM PDT reply actions  

MATCH NOW!!!!!!!

he’s humble
he works hard
he knows he’s limited
he knows how to live with it
he lives (and doesn’t die) by the 3
so do we :-)

=Gaucho=

by Gaucho! on Jul 12, 2010 7:23 AM PDT reply actions  

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