RUMOR: Anthony Randolph, Ronny Turiaf or Kelenna Azubuike, and Vladimir Radmanovic to New York Knicks, David Lee to Golden State Warriors + BUT Remember LeBron James to NYC

The way the blogs are run (at least on SBNation) is that one of the mods will basically write a blog post about any relevant news having to do with the team. While fanshots are useful to people who are regulars the main posts link to yahoo sports as well as other news outlets. By writing this, ATMA gets to get his thoughts out there and create more traffic for GSOM.

if lebron DOESN’T sign with the Knicks, they’re going to trade Lee

well if youre not interested in the warriors then you should stay away from places like this for a few weeks.

You talk about AR like he is already on Webber’s level.

AR has shown potential, but he has been all over the spectrum. Webber was already producing as a rookie.

Why do we need Lee? Why pick Udoh? Why dump Jack for Vlad and Bell than cut Bell and Speedy?

And Beans

dont Curry and Lee see eye to eye?

turning on LBJ for being a me-first guy and going with a guy who deliberately punched another player in the groin and may have cost his team their one shot at a Final Four isn’t necessarily the right counter. Plus, let’s see how long it takes CP3 (who again, I reiterate that I like a ton and is one of the better people I’ve met in the league) to demand a trade to a team that can go places.

Durant? Sure
Deron? Sure
Mr. Paul? Enh, not so much

Lets go Nets!

Hell no to that then….

Seriously what is up with the crazy spending this offseason?

He needs to play on a team with better rebounding and defense. That’s why, in my opinion, Miami and Chicago make the most sense. In Miami he gets Bosh and probably Hasleem. In Chicago he gets Boozer and Noah. Wade as one of the best #2 offensive options of all time becomes the icing on the cake in Miami.

Paul is a great player, but LBJ is the de facto PG on his team, so I don’t think you’d get the full benefit from having both of them. Whereas Wade is equally comfortable on or off the ball, and should mesh with LeBron better.

I doubt the Hornets give up Paul for anything less than a substantial talent (one player > package of rotation guys) and the Cavs have absolutely no one outside of King James that makes sense for New Orleans.

I’d love to see LBJ and CP3 play together, but there is ZERO chance at a deal there.

Why? Why is option 2 more enticing to you. If you don’t have the balls to pull the trigger on getting a legitimate all-star now, who’s to say you’ll do it midseason? The problem with Warriors fans is they always want something for nothing. I agree, it’s a lot to give up. But we often give up this much in trades for garbage players, and this time we have the opportunity to do it for an All-Star, who will fit in this system. You can rosterbate and discuss the cap all you like. This isn’t a Cohan-esque move because this is a move that instantly makes this team BETTER regardless of who we give up in the deal.

The question isn’t whether or not you want 17 or 10 in expiring. It’s whether or not you want to risk losing a potential star and a couple of could be important bench pieces for an already all-star. It’s really that simple. We’d have to give up one could be for an already is, and I say we should do it.

Sorry… Anthony Randolph is on his last year of “potential.” If he doesn’t put it together this year, his trade value drops to face value (which, if you’ve been watching, isn’t particularly high). If all we have to give up are Randolph and expirings who probably wouldn’t resign for the same value anyways (Buike & Turiaf are going to make more money next year)… then, you have to do it. As Ronaldinho pointed out, Randolph has a chance to be a better starter than Lee, a worse starter than Lee, or never make a starting rotation… and those possibilities are pretty equal. The NBA is about stars. And if you’re confident in Curry, you surround him with the best players you can find. Monta’s the albatross if we have Curry, Lee, & Biedrins as our other primary stars. Monta is an undersized, overpaid shooting guard. If we can somehow move him for anything remotely valuable, that’s a really good team. No, it’s not a championship team unless Curry is amazing, but there’s only one championship team each year.

Think of the Lakers, think of the Celtics… they built their teams piece by piece. They did not sit around waiting, hoping that their flawed young guys would overcome their flaws to become superstars. They used their trade assets to acquire stars when they needed. If we acquire Lee, we’ve got a core of Curry, Biedrins, Monta, & Lee. We’ve also got $10M in expiring contracts. Turn that $10M in expiring contracts around for a star shooting guard like Iggy, and you’ve got a really good team. That’s really all you can hope for. You cannot simply say “This move doesn’t make us better than the Lakers, so it’s a no go” because that’s not the choice. Not making the move is not going to make us better than the Lakers. Betting on Randolph to mature into a player that makes us better than the Lakers is equally stupid.

Acquiring Lee gives us a proven PF AND a proven C… to go with our potentially (hopefully) star PG. When you can fill the 3 most important positions with plus players? If there’s anything I trust Nellie to do, it’s find talent at SG & SF. If we can dupe somebody into thinking that Monta can score 25ppg and is worth his contract, great. If we can find some cash strapped team looking to offload somebody for our $10M in expirings… even better.

Acquiring Lee is a step in the right direction. Not making this move is to stand in place hoping that a conveyor belt comes along and takes you where you want to go.

HAHAHAHAHA. GOD MAN, IT’S ALWAYS FUNNY.

/sarcasm off.

We don’t have enough cap space to sign J-Ho.

I think you should’ve taken off Azubuike as he is part of the trade I think the line-up may look alot like this…but I think we should replace Howard will Dorrell Wright as we don’t know how Josh Howard will respond after his latest injury.:

Curry/Watson/Wise?
Ellis/Morrow
D. Wright/Williams
Lee/B. Wright/Vlad
Biedrins/Udoh

Did you notice how everybody was playing defense at half-speed?
Or that he was posting up on Rudy Gay?

Doesn’t tell us much about his skill.

How many players play their whole career with one team?

Under the new CBA, it’s very likely that a lot of the home-team advantage for keeping FAs will go away. Therefore, it’s very hard to say that, even if he becomes the player he might be able to become that he’s a Warrior for a meaningful amount of time if he does so.

Quite frankly, I don’t think it’s possible to plan more than 4-5 years ahead in the NBA. Too much changes. Injuries happen. You make the moves which are going to maximize your potential over the next 4-5 years. If you’re talking about winning 5-6 years from now, you need a crystal ball.

If he fixes his attitude (as in, his “me, me, me, I’m better than everybody else” attitude), maybe he can be an effective basketball player. I’m not holding my breath, and neither should the Warriors. I’ll be sad to see him leave because he was such an intriguing prospect, but he has a big problem with authority. Maybe he would have put it together in the second half of last year, maybe he’ll put it together on the Knicks. I have my doubts, and even if he does put it together on the Knicks, I don’t think he ever would have worked as a Warrior. To me, he seems like a classic case of a guy who needed to be knocked in the mouth to realize that he’s got to be humble and play his role before he can do so. I do think a change of scenery will do him some good.

I do trust Nellie’s eye for talent well enough, but if it’s true Nellie is being kept out of the loop on these deals. I just don’t know if Riley has the same eye Nellie does.

And this is the last year he maintains his trade value unless he matures into a star. If he comes to Nellie and says, “I’ll do whatever I’m asked. No questions, no complaints, anything.” then I say keep him. If he doesn’t, it ain’t gonna happen in a Warriors uniform any time soon and he needs to be moved before his value plummets.

Short answer, I say yes, and quite possibly by a lot. But none of us can say, obviously. The real issue is that you have to take the question a step further and ask not only " what is the likelihood that Randolph will be better?" but, “what is the likelihood he will be MUCH better, and for how long?” It’s pretty obvious that Lee is more the sure thing (sure to give rebounds and great post-game interviews, sure to give up about as many polnts as he scores) and that Randolph is a gamble. He does seem to be the NBA equivalent of the old NFL dictum, “million dollar arm, ten cent head.” But I’m definitely of the camp that says we have to gamble-on-greatness in every personnel decision. We have no chance in the next few years to sign a superstar, we are very unlikely to find ourselves in a position to draft a superstar (I’m guessing that, with our current roster, such as it is, we’re probably going to be bad but not terrible for the next few years, meaning lots of picks in the 6-9 range), and at most we have one potential superstar on the roster (Curry). Our only option is to roll the dice with the one guy on the roster who is young enough and talented enough to possibly—and I do mean possibly—become a superstar down the road. We are just one organization that cannot afford to gamble.

a guard that can team up with Amare and make a decent one-two punch