BREAKING NEWS: David Lee agrees to 6 year $80 million deal with Golden State Warriors + Anthony Randolph Ronny Turiaf, Kelenna Azubuike to New York Knicks

This saddens me that the management wont let the team mature together rather than trying to get a little better right away. It doesn’t matter if we have two more losing seasons at least we could have become a contender for years to come. This is a sad day in the post “We Believe” era.

The knicks certainly got a lot more attractive. Atma must be celebrating tonight?

I hope your right with Ellis for a SF but them we would have another gaping whole at at off guard.

If he played some point-forward at Baylor, he must be a decent ball handler. He’s athletic enough to run the floor on the break if he’s not rebounding. If he can play D out on the perimeter is the question.

The Maggs deal was a good trade. We didn’t get “nothing” per se. Charlie Bell will be a decent backup guard who can bring a little defense, some shooting, and a veteran presence. And Gadz is another big body in case of injury, or in this case, the loss of two of our rotation bigs. But more so, it was a salary dump. Maggs was overpaid (prior to the standards of this off season) and wasn’t a good fit with us.

Udoh for Monroe is a little closer to a bad move, but I started to like it the more I thought about it. This year’s draft was a 5 player draft. We got the 6th pick. Out of Udoh, Aminu, Monroe, etc., there wasn’t a prospect that was far and away better than all of the others. If we we’re picking 5, then yes, Udoh over Cousins or whoever fell to five would’ve been idiotic. But unfortunately we didn’t luck into the top 5. Udoh is a good rebounder and shot blocker, and comes in with a DEFENSE mentality. On a team of scorers like we had, Monroe and Aminu weren’t really needed, though they still would’ve been nice too. Udoh seems to also have a great personality.

Finally, Lee for AR, Buike, and Ronny. Again, the more I think about it, the more I’m oooookay with it. I’m not in love with it, but I guess I’ll give Lee a chance. What irks me the most is: 1) How much we’re gonna have to pay him, monies wise. and 2) Giving up AR. Lee will be making an average of 13 mill a year. The three (former) Warriors would’ve been making around 10 mill combined. And while Lee is a proven all-star, AR could be a superstar. Yeah, yeah, Lee is a 20/10 guy who scores effectively. But giving up on AR so early is gonna suck. Especially since, IMO, a healthy frontcourt of AR/Wright and Goose/Ronny would’ve been a formidable one. All except Ronny are good rebounders and would make up for Lee’s rebounding, and are all good shot blockers. And as for Lee’s scoring, we don’t need anymore scorers on a team led by Curry and Monta, with other scorers in Morrow, Williams, Bukie, etc. Also, I’m gonna hate to see AR blossom into a stud in NY after not having a fair chance in 2 seasons (one being in the doghouse, one being injured) to show what he can do/be. His numbers from the beginning of last season until his injury showed he can become a good player. He still had some weaknesses, but with his potential, I think you have to give him AT LEAST another full year before shipping him off for a guy that may have reached his peak. If we were contending, and we were a rebounder away, then yeah, I’d love this trade. But since we’re rebuilding, I wish we would go the Thunder’s route and build our homegrown talent and watch them blossom together and make their run.

I’ll stop rambling now. Hopefully all that made sense and wasn’t tooo hard to read.

Big are always paid more. The guy is one of the best rebounders in the league. Flawed? Yes. But he’s a big who can rebound. If nothing else, we can move him at some point for something else that works even better. But he’s not bad.

As much as I’m against this trade for the time being (I’m getting a little used to it), I wish I had this mentality. Give Lee a chance. See how he does for us and how AR (IMO, the biggest “if” in this deal) does in NY. If AR outshines Lee and becomes a star while Lee is another off-season blunder: Bad trade. If AR doesn’t live up to his potential, and Lee learns to play D and becomes a legit 4 for us: Good trade. Too early to make toooo many harsh judgements. Unfortunately, I don’t quite have the patience for that. Lol.

Gadzuric has no business playing in the NBA, and Wright has a permanently gimpy shoulder. This is a disaster.

what the hell use is a polished player on a team that has no chance of being relevant in the next several years?? Pull your head out of your *ss! Stop saying he’s athletic! All this does is make the team less fun to watch.

by the phrase ‘with a high IQ’ should win you the prize for ‘oxymoron of the thread’. His problem could be his mental development—he might be too old to un-learn his hoops habits and be receptive to re-programming, indulged as he was through high school and one year at LSU without getting schooled in winning or team play.

Since you brought up the recently deceased Salinger, do you think he either fulfilled his ‘potential’ as a writer or approached ‘greatness’?

unbelievable

Udoh will likely play center for us. He’s heavier than Wright with shot blocking. Nice to have him hanging around the middle. Not ideal, but it should be fine.

but Biedrins is our center.

From what I understand…Buike’s injury was truly fierce…and could yet prove to be a career ender… it wa certainly much worse than Monta’s, and as the Warriors medical team will know the exact condition of Buike better than anyone, maybe they saw an opportunity.

I truly like the guy and even had a chat and a Beer with Buike in the Marina, but I sspect he may never be quite the same player again. I hope he does fully recover, but I give the Warriors FO the benefit of the doubt here.

What I am truly annoyed about is losing Turiaf…. could we not have lost Gadz or Radman instead? I think Turiaf has been a superb captain.. and a great team moral booster as well as BEAST blocker….

Randolph doesn’t have the experience, the aptitude nor the composure to play the 3. I definitely wished he would play the 3, but he’s 6’11". He’s going to be a center or PF.

1) Lee is going to play tons of minutes at center. Is anyone out there dumb enough to defend that?

Beans and Lee, and Beans plays his healthy-career average of 28.5 minutes/game or so, somebody’s got to play 20 minutes at center. It’s naive to think Lee won’t play any of them. On the other hand, it’s also naive to think that Lee will play the majority of all of them.

We need to find 20 minutes or so at center and 14 minutes or so at PF between Udoh, Wright, and Gadz. That seems pretty reasonable. My hope is that Wright gets the bulk of them, with Udoh coming on later in the season and Gadz being primarily an injury replacement guy.

what we do get is a proven PF

This is certainly a fairly safe trade, if we’re going to spend money. This is 10X smarter than the Maggette deal and really fills our rebounding need.

OK. Get real. Gadzuric cannot, will not play significant minutes. That’s ridiculous. Lee is going to play major minutes at center, and it’s going to be ugly.

Turiaf and Buike’s injuries were not worth gambling over. I will miss Turiaf, but I think Buike’s injury might be the end for him. Randolph… that hurts. That said, this is not a bad trade. It may pay off well. We’ll see.

an undersized 5 wtht limited skills, an undersized 3 with a blown out damaged knee, and a headcase, undersized 4 malcontent. We got better by subtraction and gto the best player in the trade. Its a great deal!!

if you’re going to insult the guy, at least, spell his name correctly

There is no evidence that Randolph would be better than Wright. Wright was a lot more level headed.

 Yeah, makes no sense what so ever? Just trying to bland this team to death I guess? Montay for Hindrich is next?

Losing AR is only part of it. This team was just blown up for a slow, aging white guy. Who’s gonna back-up Beans at center? Who fills all the SF minutes without ’buike for the second half of the season?

Thank you for another perspective.

It’s easy to be classy when your team gets half the Ws roster for some lame white guy.

Curry and Lee working well together is something I’m optimistic about. Thanks for your input.

Rad and Gadz are fine backups. When Rad was healthy, he was good last year. Then he sucked… but he may be good again this year. The contracts are expiring anyway. We’re good.