The Two Remaining Roster Spots
Looking at the remaing free agents, the Warriors positional team needs (SF, F/C), and at Larry Riley preferring "players who have actually played in some NBA games" and trying to make a match. Not my first choices fellow fans...just going with the criteria.
| Free Agent SF | Free Agent PF | Free Agent C | |||||||
| Rashad McCants | 6'7 | Anthony Tolliver | 6'9 | Shaquille Oneal | 7'1 | ||||
| Jarvis Hayes | 6'8 | James Singleton | 6'8 | Josh Boone | 6'10 | ||||
| Keith Bogans | 6'5 | Louis Amundson | 6'10 | Chris Hunter | 6'11 | ||||
| Rodney Carney | 6'7 | Malik Allen | 6'10 | Kwame Brown | 6'11 | ||||
| Stephen Graham | 6'6 | Devean George | 6'8 | Etan Thomas | 6'10 | ||||
| Adam Morrison | 6'8 | Joe Smith | 6'10 | Kyrylo Fesenko | 7'1 | ||||
| Sasha Pavlovic | 6'8 | Sean May | 6'10 | DJ Mbenga | 7'0 | ||||
| Cartier Martin | 6'7 | Brian Cardinal | 6'10 | Fabricio Oberto | 6'10 | ||||
| Tracy Mcgrady | 6'8 | Brian Scalabrine | 6'9 | Oleksiy Pecherov | 7'0 | ||||
| Trenton Hassell | 6'5 | Jonathan Bender | 7'0 | Nathan Jawaii | 6'10 | ||||
| Michael Finley | 6'7 | Ike Diogu | 6'8 | Earl Barron | 6'10 | ||||
| Steve Novak | 6'10 | Bobby Simmons | 6'6 | Randolph Morris | 6'11 | ||||
| Damien Wilkens | 6'6 | Joe Alexander | 6'8 | Brian Skinner | 6'9 | ||||
| Taylor Griffin | 6'9 | Sean Marks | 6'10 | ||||||
| Patrick O'Bryant | 7'0 | ||||||||
| Jarron Collins | 7'0 | ||||||||
| Francisco Elson | 7'0 | ||||||||
| Primoz Brezec | 7'1 |
At Small Forward the two players that stick out to me as a fit for the Warriors needs are Michael Finley and Sasha Pavlovich. After watching Finley play with the Spurs and Celtics (or rather not play) I feel like he is done. As for Pavlovich he was a crucial part in the journey to the NBA Finals in the 06-07 season against the Spurs and he played in the Eastern Conference Finals in 07-08 against the Celtics and again in 08-09 against the Magic. His 09-10 season with The Timberwolves was an ugly one which begs the question of whether he's done or not at the age of 27? or is playing off the bench for the Timberwolves after being let go by the Cavaliers that depressing? I think Pavlovich defintely fits for our team needs and for Rileys preference. Maybe playing with better players here in Golden State in comparison to Minnesota and playing in our run and gun style will bring out the 06-07 version of Pavlovich as he is supposed to be peaking around this age rather than dying off. Honestly I'd rather have Cartier Martin or Joey Graham...
Vid: Sasha Pavlovic
At Forward/Center I don't see a player that really matches our team needs. No doubt there are players that would fit Rileys preference of "playing in some NBA games" in Devean George, Shaquille Oneal, Kwame Brown and Francisco Elson but these guys are either washed up or are a bad fit chemistry wise. I'd rather have one of these guys as an assistant coach than having them ride the bench with a roster spot and a million bucks.
Hopefully Larry Riley will go for the players that are a good fit but havent neccesarily played in any big games. However there are challenges with these players as well as the better ones want to get paid. Anthony Tolliver, Louis Amundson, are unproven as they have not played in any big games and would want more money than we probably want to give up. Etan Thomas seems like a good fit but after two inury plagued seasons I'm not sure that's a good choice either.
The third choice would be to look at a rookie or at any other player trying to break into the league in which we have Andre Brown and Vernon Goodridge that will most likely be at our training camp.
Vid: Andre Brown
Vid: Vernon Goodridge
Curry/Pargo/Lin
Ellis/Bell
Wright/Williams/Pavlovic
Lee/Wright/Radmanovic/Udoh
Biedrins/Gadzurich/Goodrich or Brown
Remember not my preferences...just looking for the right fit according to Riley's preferences and the Warriors team needs. What are your ideas for the last two roster spots?
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by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 2, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
I like either Amundson or Tolliver. Let’s watch some coaches have to satisfy roster demands by allowing quality rookies to fall off their rosters through training camp, and lets stare at them while they do some early work in the D-League.
I would probably go with Amundson over Tolliver, just because Louis’ game is a bit more physically dominant and allows him to play back up center a little more effectively. I wouldn’t be too worried about back up SF at this point. Heading into mid-season, we will likely have a good chance at picking up a good swing from the D-League, after D-Wright has accumulated a lot of minutes. I have confidence in riding that guy pretty hard at the 3, because he’s young. By the time he starts to slow down about half way through the season, we’d have some pretty good progress reports developed on some potential candidates for a call-up. Luck or talent has served us well in this regard.
No, there’s a reason why he’s not in the NBA anymore.
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by golden_solitude on Aug 2, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
looking at all of the free agent centers, chris hunter does not look bad
not at all…
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23 > 24 - basic math
so we will have a Center, and a back-up Center Free throw contest?
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by AlbinoWhale on Aug 2, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
if only (a) access to practice was easy and (b) gambling was legal
Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed
I wouldn't mind McCants or Carney
Both are pretty explosive. Hunter or Tolliver aswell .
PFortyy :)
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by golden_solitude on Aug 2, 2010 5:02 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
At SF;
we have Dorrel Wright starting most likely,
who backs him up? Not reggie,
I think Novak would be a nice replacement for Morrow off the bench
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Novak
is a good idea. He is similar to Morrow with the fact that his game is really based off his outstanding outside shooting. We have a good passer on the team, and having a guy that big who shoots as well as he does from outside, would be quite useful, maybe very deadly in some lineups.
Unless there’s a coaching change, the Nelson/Riley have made it clear Reggie is the back-up SF
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Aug 2, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
At SF and F/C
for SF I would go for Sasha Pavlovic because he has a really good three point shot. for F/C I think we should try to resign Chris Hunter or Anthony Tolliver because both of these guys have a lot of potential and play hard every single game. If we sign one of these guys back though we will not have a really good defense but thats a risk I would take
by Curry is amazing on Aug 2, 2010 6:12 PM PDT reply actions
Bender and Hunter
I think Bender looked good at times working with Lee in NY, Hunter knows what the W’s want. they add more size.
Carney and amoundson.
Give carney 2.5 over two years with. Team option and give amoudson 5 over two years with a play option. And let’s go to training camp
Since when has Rashad McCants been 6'7?
He’s more like 6’3-6’5 range…
But out of those listed I’d take either Rodney Carney, Louis Amundson, Josh Boone, Sasha Pavlovic, or Louis Amundson!
Yeah...because it if he was really that tall...
…a lot more teams would be knockin on his front door or blowin up his agent’s phone!
Ideally, I would want Steve Novak and Louis Amudson because Novak spreads the floor and he is a consistent knockdown shooter, legit size for sf (6-10), knows his role won’t try to do to much, good lockeroom presence. I want Amudson because he’s just a hustler, gives it 100% everynight, team player, hardworker, and a energy player.
But I think in the end the Warriors will sign Pavlovic and Toliver or Amundson.
the case for Kwame
sign Kwame Brown to full mle up to three years. In addition to that, I would trade Biedrins Radmonovic and Gadzuric to Detroit, in exchange for Prince and Hamilton. Detriot would then get a big man locked up long term, gets rid of Hamilton’s bloated contract who plays the same position as Gordan, and gets the cap relief from the expiring contracts of Radmon and Dan G. this deal couldn’t take place until the end of august due to Dan G’s trade rights, but gives us additional help at the 2,3,and 5 position. also provides a veteran presence with championship experience. and as a bonus three guys who already have experience playing with each other so the chemistry is already there. Like Chicago did by adding three former Utah players.
Tough to say that those 3 have chemistry..
Also tough to say that the Pistons would ever go for that…
sign Kwame Brown to full mle up to three years.
We don’t have our MLE
but gives us additional help at the 2,3,and 5 position.
The trade you suggested makes us worse. Rip Hamilton is toast and has a bad contract. Prince has health concerns at his age. Kwame is a massive downgrade at C compared to Biedrins.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 2, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
you can make an arguement that biedrins is better
but only in rebounding and even kwame will thrive in rebounding in our system. but you cant say that he is a massive downgrade when i cant remember the last time biedrins made a free throw. kwame is also a better defender by far. which is what we dont have in the post without randolph and turiof. and we dont need his rebounding anymore because we have lee.
when i cant remember the last time biedrins made a free throw.
I can’t remember the last time Biedrins took a freethrow when he didn’t have a torn abdominal muscle.
and we dont need his rebounding anymore because we have lee.
We were the worst rebounding team in basketball. It’s part of the reason we were so terrible last season.
Think about what your trade does for the team though: where does it take us in the standings? Does it take us to the playoffs? Does it just take us the to 40 wins?
It could make us better right now, but we’ll be much worse in a year or 2 no matter what.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 3, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
lol @ he missed freethrows because of a torn abdominal muscle
i can make more free throws laying on my back. and we were the worst rebounding team because maggette was our 4 and tolliver was our 5. hamilton will expire in three and in my scenario so will kwame. so if we don’t win it we wont be in any way stuck
You've never had a torn abdominal muscle, have you?
It’s okay. It’s abundantly clear from your other posts that you don’t have the slightest clue about Kwame’s game, salary, or anything else. What, is he your cousin or something? Hard to know what else might be motivating you to spout so many basic, factually wrong things about him as you’ve done in this thread.
you can't quote me saying kwame is better than biedrins
i just think that with turiof and randolph gone we need a defensive minded center. and Brown is the best available
Kwame Brown isn't the best anything
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 3, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
actually amundsun is the best post defender available
but he lacks size. he brings much of what udoh is expected to bring. so next after him is kwame. as far as post D is concerned.
Worst draft pick?
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by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 3, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny, I can quote you saying that Biedrins was only better in rebounding -
- which is absolutely, clearly, factually false.
he is only better in rebounding
and garbage points. no disrespect i still think he is a good player
Can you read?
Or are you just blind? Or are you aware that Biedrins is better in all of the following categories, and just choosing to ignore it for the sake of being obstuse:
Categories in which Biedrins is better than Kwame:
Points per game.
Points per 36 min.
TS%.
Blocks.
Steals
Turnovers.
This is not “only better in rebouding and garbage points.”
It is being better across the board, period.
proving my point
that you are a numbers guy, which isn’t a bad thing if you play fantasy basketball
That wasn't your point
your point was that Kwame was better at just about everything. He isn’t better at getting blocks and he isn’t better at taking care of the ball. Those are 2 things. He’s also really bad at getting points at all.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 4, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
kwame is a down grade from biedrins!
but not by much. and would compliment lee equally or perhaps better. its worth the gamble if we can add the depth of prince and rip to our promising core and possibly make a strong case for the ship for the next two years
but not by much
By a lot. He’s worse at just about everything. Kwame + old Rip + old Prince is worse for our team and cap situation than Biedrins.
strong case for the ship for the next two years
Really doubt it. We wouldn’t even have a serviceable starting center.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 4, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Proving what point?
That I’m a numbers guy? It’s called offering evidence.
It’s actually conclusive evidence that you’re full of, well, a word that I won’t say here.
Interesting how you retreat to personal attacks rather than produce an iota of evidence to back up what you’re saying. But then again, you’re the guy who thought 6 was less than half of 9 – you don’t have that great a record of dealing with the reality based community.
How about this: make an argument as to why Kwame would complement Lee better. Don’t just say it. Offer some sort of fact- or logic-based series of thoughts.
kwame. so if we don’t win it we wont be in any way stuck
Except that we’ll have wasted David Lee’s prime on crappy players.
Maybe you could make more free throws on your back, but you couldn’t make them with a torn abdominal. It’s that big of a deal.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 3, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
both are past their prime
If Rip isn’t already crappy, he’ll be crappy in a year. 2-3 years from now? It’ll be so bad. Prince has already declined as a defender and I think he has a pretty crappy contract.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 3, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh okay
that makes his part less bad, but I still want nothing to do with Rip. Both of them are marginally useful players that make way too much money. If we were closer to a really big push, I’d say go for it.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 3, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
i say they are way more than marginally useful
these guys are not that many years removed from championship form. plus after two seasons rip will be a major trade asset for us because that will be 13 mil expiring. plus at 6’7 rip can play the three and prince can play some power giving us a lot of different ways to match up with other teams. and the defensive tenacity these guys bring to the floor on a nightly basis is legendary. add that to our young core and nellie included who loves a seasoned vet, and that will make us serious contenders
Rip is 32
he is past his prime. He doesn’t shoot as well as he used to. He doesn’t rebound at all. He never really did, but it’s totally gone now. He is a terrible value at this stage in his career. Overpriced, overly long contract that takes him past the age that NBA players should retire. If he plays like an average player this season, that would be a success.
Prince is slightly more useful. I would definitely trade Vlad Rad or Gadz for him. We’d be giving up the best player in the Andriis+guys for Prince and Rip, though. I wouldn’t touch that with a 40 foot pole.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 3, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
i think rip would have more success of the bench
as a third or fourth option scorer. i don’t believe detroit’s system or roster favors him nearly as much as ours would. but yes he will/should retire after his contract is up lol
It's generally a bad idea to trade for someone - especially a 32-year-old -
- and expect them to be someone drastically different from who they are on their current team.
he doesn't need to be drastically different
but you probably only watch warrior games so you only go by numbers or whatever and dont know what you’re saying
No, I've watched Hamilton a lot.
And he’s over the hill.
You’re the one who needs to watch more if you somehow think he’s still close to as good as he was six years ago.
But you’ve already demonstrated a huge amount of ignorance of basketball, so I don’t expect that to change now.
"Not that many years removed from championship form."
No, actually, they’re six years removed from championship form, which is A LOT in the NBA. It’s more than half a career for most players.
Tayshaun has never rebounded close to well enough to consider playing him at 4, and he’s no longer the defender he used to be. It may have been “legendary” but legends don’t play basketball for you night in and night out.
he is still a great defender
and he can also be a stretch 4. and guard most of the fours in the league
No MLE?
well then Detroit will sign him for us and we use our trade exception to make the numbers match
I don't think we can do that
or it wouldn’t happen till halfway through the season.
We used most of our MLE on Dorrel Wright.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 3, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
so a kwame deal will look more like 2.4 in his first year
with 10% increases over the next two and a team option on the third. sign and trade of course
2.4 for Kwame?
That’s a joke right? Kinda like him being drafted number 1 was a joke?
He’s done absolutely nothing worth praising in his NBA “career.”
Keep him away
*barf*
i’d take kwame for the veteran’s minimum for two years, one a team option. And that’s pretty much non-negotiable.
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Aug 3, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
kwame has been a starter his whole career
and at age 26 6’11 thats worth at least 6 mil a year. which is way below league average among starting 5’s and half the price of our oft injured biedrins
When did Biedrins become "oft" injured?
He missed half of one season (and probably should have missed more of it, given how he was playing).
Health is not an argument for Kwame over Biedrins: Kwame has played in 48, 58, 38, and 41 games over the last four seasons. Biedrin’s numbers over that same time period are 33, 62, 76, and 82.
Over his career, Kwame has been a worse volume scorer, a MUCH worse efficiency scorer, a MUCH worse rebounder, worse at turnovers, blocks, steals, and for those fixated on FT%, he’s only .060 better career.
Saying that Kwame has been a starter his whole career is simply untrue. Even if you remove his first two seasons and only start counting in his third year, the first where he started the majority of his team’s games, he has started only 52% of the games in which he has played.
Kwame is an abysmal rebounder for a center, averaging under 9/36 for his career.
If Kwame is worth $6m, then Beans is one of the best deals in the league. (Incidentally, $6m is not less than half of Biedrin’s salary. Biedrins makes $9m a year.)
by Ronaldinho on Aug 3, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not taking anything from beans but..
he just doesn’t compliment lee in any way. and now that we have new owners we as fans shouldn’t have to worry about how much it cost to get the players we want
just doesn’t compliment lee
I don’t know him personally, but Andris seems like a nice guy. I’m sure that he’s told David Lee that he is handsome, or at least good at basketball. :P
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 3, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, Beans does complement Lee well.
Beans doesn’t demand a lot of touches to get his production, which is what you want on a team which is going to be build around P&Rs with Curry and Lee. Biedrin’s excellent finishing around the basket will stop teams from defending the P&R by having Bean’s defender slide across the lane to stop a rolling Lee.
Lee is also a very-good passing big man, which, again, means he’ll probably find some easy baskets for Beans.
Biedrins is an excellent help defender, which should help cover for Lee’s shortcomigns defensively. So he complements him well there, too. He’s a good shot blocker and the team is going to want somebody who can do that out there.
The only real issue with those two players – and it might be a big one – is that neither of them are particularly good man-up defenders in the post. But replacing Beans with Kwame isn’t going to make this a better defensive team: you give up too much rebounding and shot blocking for the marginal upgrade of man-on-man defense.
by Ronaldinho on Aug 3, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
I think they complement each other very well, especially on the offensive end.
beans is not a good help defender or shot blocker
and kwame dont need shots to be effective either
Kwame needs more shots than Biedrins does to score the same number of points.
He misses more shots and scores fewer points.
we dont need him to score
only defend. our guards will do all the scoring
Kwame is a good defender?
You say this based on what? Kwame is a horrible defender to go with his lousy rebounding.
Furthermore, please show me a successful team which has big men which don’t score at all. Guards doing “all” the scoring is moronic.
I don't think there has been even one in the last decade
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 4, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
Because Monta and Curry scoring all our points last season sure worked wonders…
;-P
by Badly Browned on Aug 5, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Beans is not a great option around the basket
only because his hands are terrible…he can’t catch. And if he does happen to catch the ball, teams will foul him and put his 16% ass on the free throw line. Not sure what he brings to the table right now in terms of finishing around the basket.
I am hoping he bounces back to his double/double form but we’ll have to see.
Defensively you are correct – he’s a great help defender…but a bad man defender who often gets into foul trouble. Unfortunately we have no Turiaf safety net so we’re gonna see A LOT of David Lee at the 5 spot.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 5, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Biedrins has some of the best hands of any big man i've ever seen.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 5, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Beans has terrible hands?
His TOV% is lower than Dwight Howard’s.
Biedrins is really really good – or was, until this last season – of scoring when you passed him the ball down low.
Really, really, really good.
Wow
Beans is not a great option around the basket
only because his hands are terrible…he can’t catch.
That is some very poor scouting on your part. Were you around when we had guys like Damp, Foyle and Fortson around. It would give you some perspective about what it means to have bad hands.
AB looks awkward as heck, but he can catch a tough pass inside with the best of them. When Baron and Jack were around you’d see them set up Andris with some very tough to handle deliveries in the P&R because they knew he would be able to control the ball and finish. He would catch bounce passes at (or below) his knees regularly without a problem. He would catch little quick bullets inside when Baron would drive and dish. He has plenty of weaknesses to pick on without making any up. He has good hands.
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kwame has been a bad starter his whole career
There, fixed that for you =)
Goal: 8 seed!
by dso on Aug 3, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Kwame Brown:
-Shoots 50% from the field vs Beans’ .591% last year.
-Grabs 9.7r36 vs Beans’ 12.2r36 last year
-Has small hands compared to Beans’ soft hands that allow him to be considered an elite finishing big man.
-Has the lateral quickness, strength, and length to be a good defender if he ever hones his skills vs Beans who plays adequate defense against most centers and guards the P&R well.
-Shoots 30% from the line, which is odd considering he shot 71% his rookie year…and it has been falling ever since vs Beans shooting 13% or whatever last year.
On top of that, Kwame has played 13mpg behind Ben Wallace for the last 3 years or so…how do you even know he is in shape enough to start on a fast-paced team like the Warriors?
Mr. Kahn, I don’t like Kwame. I don’t like the fact that you are measuring his salary among starting NBA 5’s when it is pretty blatantly obvious Kwame Brown is not NBA starter material. And I don’t want to trade Beans and anything else for Kwame Brown and a big, solid block of gold.
Just stop with this Kwame starter stuff. He can’t start on the Warriors. Players like Kwame that don’t bring a lot to the table offensively are usually scrappy, banging bigs that can lock down on players in the post. Kwame is not that player. It’s like the Nets last year. It would have been all great to tank for 12 games. But they were not rebuilding.
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by LarryLegendofOracle on Aug 6, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, this is your best post in a very long time, lol.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 6, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I would rather have Adonal Foyle as our starting center than Kwame Brown
Enough with Kwame people! and well done Larry
And For The Second Spot
I would Sign Etan Thomas to 1.8 million (c.j.watson trade exception) giving us
curry / ellis / pargo / lin
ellis / hamilton / williams / bell
Prince / hamilton / d.wright / williams
lee / b.wright / d.wright / udoh
brown / lee / thomas / udoh
undersized meaning
6’11 or lower and 4 that are 6’9 or lower
by CoreyMaggette on Aug 3, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
i wont mind undersized 5's unles we get the ben wallace of 04
by CoreyMaggette on Aug 3, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
kendrick perkins is under sized
not to mention the best center in the league is under sized.
i forgot to put prince as an option at the four
lee / prince / b.wright / d.wright / udoh
I’d appreciate Rodney Carney and Lou Amundson.
'Like' my band. I mean, it'd be awesome if you did that.
Amundson
If not bring back Tolliver and Hunter,they both deserve a shot and played well for us.
I might prefer them to Lou,Tolliver can score and Hunter plays solid in the paint.
Dr. Jeff
Cardinal 6' 10" ????
I think not. More like 6’7" or 6’ 8"
I’d say sign George and Tolliver or Hunter.
With all the overhaul’s of this season, having players that know each other and the system will be a plus.
And frankly, the W’s have a lot invested in Tolliver. They should see how he flourishes this season – in THEIR uniform.
Bender
J. Bender is a poor man’s C. Frye 7’0 and good 3 shooter, I take him over Tolliver because of the extra 3" inches. Bender can stretch the floor and allow Lee to work down low.
GS becomes a little like P.Suns North, Add Hunter and at times GS can match any team in
league in height.
Fesenko~!!!
IMO i think we need Fesenko or Hunter.
At the SF position i’d be happy with anyone other than Reggie 6’4" Williams. I’m tired of small ball. If we are going to have a small SG may we at least try to play big at the SF position?
In reality, i don’t think we’ll pick up anyone. It makes sense to leave a couple roster spots open in the event that we bring back more players in a trade. Oviously our roster is not rock solid and another trade or two seems very likely. So, keeping a couple spots open for flexability does make sense. Personally, i’d pick up a back up Center and leave one spot open.
Having said that, what’s with the Pargo aquisition? Is there anyone on this board that would select him first this board of available players? He might be the last person i pick up. There are at least half a dosen players in this summary that fill a larger “need”. Is Riley setting up for a trade?
Having said that, what’s with the Pargo aquisition?
Beats me. Pargo (a) sucks; and (b) is extremely redundant to Charlie Bell.
The two-month restriction on dealing Bell and Gadzooks is lifted on 10 August. We may find out soon thereafter if Riley has any more tricks up his sleeve…
There will be no extra point!
And C.
apparently hasn’t signed yet. Or at least, it hasn’t been officially announced…..
Potential is what you pitch when you have low current value.
What I have read is that Charlie Bell cannot play PG
He is a SG only. Pargo is a backup/insurance PG. They obviously were not that confident in Lin filling that role immediately.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 5, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
They should be confident that Pargo can't fill that role ever
Pro-Skub for life
by Reverend_Randy on Aug 5, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Shaq?
Anybody want shaq our 5’s will hav the worst ft% in nba history
I want hunter and tolliver for the minimum
maybe tmac if we can get him for short term/minimum. Highly doubt it though as that guy’s desperate for a long term contract so he can go lazy again
Goal: 8 seed!
TMac
For a one year cheap contract.
It’s a high profile move that may be worth the risk if our only other options are just mediocre anyway.
We most likely are not going to find our franchise SF this year, and the next year is likely a strike year. We dont have much to lose with this addition and if he has a comeback year like Baron did his first year with us, we look great, if he’s a chemistry or talent problem, then we get him out via instant injury ( kinda like all those “injurys” last year) and start Wright at 3.
TMac adds another scorer for Curry to distribute to, and between him and Wright, we have great defense and scoring at that position.
Plus if we are rebuilding our image and trying to be an attractive place big names want to come, just seeing Curry, Monta, TMac, Lee, and Beans this year, along with new ownership, may perk the interest of big names who know TMac will not be with us in the longrun (and we’re a big market with exciting new owners).
Again, It’s a high profile move that could pay off for us considering our only other options are just mediocre anyway.
by WestCoastWarrior on Aug 5, 2010 10:24 AM PDT reply actions
Doesn't TMac want the Bulls & what does he have left?
Everything I’ve read lately about TMac puts him leaning heavily towards the Bulls. Not sure Warriors can get TMac unless they overpay.
If the Warriors can get him for a one year contract, I’m sure he’ll play hard just to make sure he can show the league that he deserves a roster spot next year. Haven’t seen him much the last couple seasons but can he still score (even w/ Curry dishing the ball)? The numbers aren’t great & he’s missed some games over the last couple years.
If the Warriors can get him for a one year contract, I’m sure he’ll play hard just to make sure he can show the league that he deserves a roster spot next year.
Right. Because T-Mac is a player who’s shown a selfless commitment to team and would never, ever, ever decide his was too injured to play if, for some reason, he felt that the team was no longer built around showcasing his abilities.
Oh, wait. That’s exactly backwards.
Dude, what are you trying to say?
What srsrs is saying (I think) is that even if T-Mac is a selfish A-hole, it will be in his best interest to show his value to the league by playing winning ball for the Dubs.
And if he chooses to act the way you say he will, then let him get “hurt.” If we can get a big name lets do it, but if its between the guys listed above or some D-league answer, let’s gamble on a 1yr deal with TMac.
by WestCoastWarrior on Aug 6, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
T-Mac's actions suggest that his definition of his "best interest" may be different from ours.
Remember that this is a guy who, despite the fact that he was able to play (as evidence by his miraculous recovery when he got to NY) was such a cancer that Houston basically told him not to bother showing up.
In a contract year.
probably been said already...
we should try and get dominic wilkins unless he wants more money than we can afford to give… then uhhh nm.
Hahaa
well we do have two reamining spots, so why not give an offer to Nique AND Spud Webb.
Though our big man issue isnt adrressed, we get our backup pg and sf, and they’d both fill the dunk contest void created when we traded away J-Rich. Would be a pretty good pickup if you ask me :)
by WestCoastWarrior on Aug 9, 2010 9:53 AM PDT reply actions

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