Other potential FA bigs?
I know that many seem to hope we sign Amundson this week, and I'm not opposed myself if at a reasonable price. Nevertheless, even if we sign him we seem pretty thin at the 5 (with Udoh out, and Andris and Wright's injury histories). If we don't sign Amundson (and perhaps even if we do), who else might we look at as an inexpensive FA acquisition down low?
What about Dwayne Jones of the D-League? Is there something wrong with his game or attitude that he hasn't stuck in the NBA yet? I know that he's already 27, but he appears to have developed an astounding rebound skill in the past 2 years (16 rpg last season) to go with solid shooting and block numbers (17.6ppg, fg%.598, ft%.667, 1.8bpg). Actually he was a pretty great rebounder and shot blocker back in college at St. Joseph's too. Having not seen him play much (saw a few Toros games last year), I assume there's some reason the Suns cut him after the playoffs and more recently the Raptors this month? Just wondering as his numbers are truly gaudy, particularly in some useful areas for the Warriors.
So...if anyone knows more about Dwayne Jones or would like to opine about other worthwhile free agent bigs, I'd love to see the discussion!
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Whoa, nice find, Ikiru. Jones put up these #s for NBDL Boise last season:
17.6 pts/game (in 40 mins.)
65% ts (4th best in the league)
16.0 reb/game (best in the league)
6’11 242, just turned 27. Get this fellow in camp! And rec this post!
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He should change his spelling of his first name to Dywane.
Have no idea what the status is of these guys — Jonathan Bender, James Singleton, Chris Hunter, Brian Scalabrine, Malik Allen, Sean May (yuck), Joe Alexander, Taylor Griffin and Joe Smith.
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jonathan bender LOL
wasnt that guy in the breakfast club?
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 24, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you describe the bender, sir?
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Aug 27, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Retired?
J. Bender retired in ’06, came out of retirement in ’09
Did he retire again?
Whether retired or not
Lets not sign him, please…
by freerandolph on Aug 24, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He never came out. He just tried to. He’s done.
'Like' my band. I mean, it'd be awesome if you did that.
Bender
Saw Bender with the Knicks last year and he worked very well with Lee in a inside outside compo, Bender can still shot the three.Couldn’t play a lot of minutes,just getting into shape.
Wouldn’t be a bad pickup. 7’0 who can strecth the floor.
I was hoping someone saw Bender on the Knicks.
I’m not saying to sign him, but if he can still play, then it’s worth the minimum.
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… I say pass.
… and rebound. ;-)
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by Sleepy Freud on Aug 27, 2010 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
occasional three
is the strength of guys like C. Frye that can play big roles on teams, and when they are on change the face of the entire game.
yeahm but
Frye got owned in the playoffs.
The guy is way to soft to help a team make it through the Western Conference playoffs.
Just because some aspect of thier game is a strangth, does not necessarily mean that this strength is going to translate into a critical element of a team’s success
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 30, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
the 5 spot is our biggest need imo.
sounds like from the numbers standpoint this guy wouldnt be a total liability or anything.. what are his downsides?? no D? i havent ever seen him play so i know nothing of him..
lee is our heaviest dude?!!
i wish we could find a big boy… someone thats not gonna get pushed around in the paint.. looks like lee may have to play some 5 (uggggg i certainly hope not tho)
I’ve seen people disparage Lee at the 5. I’m curious – why? I recognize Lee is a bad defender, but what makes him worse at the 5 than the 4? Considering 4’s are generally better offensive players, wouldn’t we rather hide him on a weaker C?
by Missing Barry on Aug 24, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry my bball iq is small… what do u mean by hide him on a weaker center?
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 24, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, the other team has 2 big men, so you “hide” him by putting him on the worse of those two. In most cases, that’s the C rather than the PF.
by Missing Barry on Aug 24, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
ohhh ok.. get it thx.. well that seems to make some sense.. so, then beans would be usually the one to stop the other teams 4… hmm
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 24, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I think help defense is a key variable. It’s true that Lee may guard 5s as well as 4s, but on this team, the bigs need to bail out beaten teammates at the rim a lot, and the guy guarding the center is a bit more likely to be near the rim than the guy guarding the four, especially against stretch lineups.
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so, your saying lee wont be bailing out beans well if thier 4 gets by him?
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 24, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly. Biedrins is a decent and willing help defender… Turiaf was a downright good one, and Randolph had his moments as well. Lee’s a pretty bad help defender, and even “willing” might be up for debate… his absurdly low foul totals for a big suggest he’s not a big fan of mixing it up. He cleans the defensive glass brilliantly, which is great, but he’s not a good last line of defense if someone penetrates.
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I’ve seen people disparage Lee at the 5. I’m curious – why? I recognize Lee is a bad defender, but what makes him worse at the 5 than the 4? Considering 4’s are generally better offensive players, wouldn’t we rather hide him on a weaker C?
The main problem with playing Lee at the 5 as opposed to the 4 is he should never have to play that position, because a decent team has legitimate options there. For the team as it is assembled now, he is, unfortunately, a good option at the 5 after Beans, but that is very, very sad…
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Aug 27, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Other answer
Lee is 6’9". Generally, centers are more like 6’11"-7’
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 27, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I hate the fact that he’s going to play center at all, but it’s gonna happen, most games. It’s that or Wright or Gadzuric after Beans until Udog gets back, and he’s only 6’10". Ugh.
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Aug 27, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Imo Lee
should NEVER have to play Center.
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Lee should never have to play Center
yeah, good luck with that
Nelson is still our coach remember
I don’t think the main problem is that Lee sucks at the C position.
The bigger issue is that he will not be playing PF for us, plus we are not getting the standard contributions that wee need from the C (protect the rim, be a large dude in the paint)
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 30, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Thats why I said
Should. With Nellie at coach I know for sure Lee will see time at C but thats something I don’t want to see
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actually...
C: Lee
PF: B Wright/ Udoh (eventually)
SF: D Wright
SG: Monta
PG: Steph
doesn’t look too bad
doesn’t look too good either, but I think this is at least as good as the Tolliver/Hunter tandem we were running at times last season
by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 31, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
as long as they dont play Vlad Rad as the back up PF.
David Lee playing Center is good. Vlad is too sensitive on contacts.
Yeah, they’re tall, and often suck at offense, and he can clearly hold his own on the boards, so I guess I don’t see why it’s a big deal, other than in terms of protecting the rim.
by Missing Barry on Aug 29, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I like him as a back-up
a little bit of beef to him
he could give us 10 good decent minutes off the bench
by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 31, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Ugggglllyy
oof, none of these sound like very good options, from Amunson on down through the list of D-Leaguers.
I for one would love to see us find another gem out of the D league, but am not counting on it. I do hope Warriors management at least tries though.
Also, I agreee that the 5 is our weakest spot right now.
No idea what Beans is going to bring to the floor this season. B Wright is probably hurt in the first month. And Don Nelson is much, much too likely to put Lee at the 5.
In retrospect, it almost seems to me like Turiaf may have been our biggest loss in the Lee trade (if only because he played a bigger role on the team than AR)
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(if only because he played a bigger role on the team than AR)
even though he always should have it.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 24, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Woops
even though he should have. I don’t know what I was doing there.
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by Reverend_Randy on Aug 24, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
it will be interesting to see what happens in NYC with AR and Turiaf.
Something tells me that AR is going to shine, but I can’t help but wonder if Turiaf may actually get more minutes
by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 31, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not too worried, Turiaf wasn’t really that good. While I don’t think there are appealing options in terms of “hey, we can sign a good player for cheap”, there are definitely options that are better than replacement level out there and can give us some actual value. With this team’s lack of depth, that does make us better.
by Missing Barry on Aug 24, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Turiaf wasn’t really that good
yeah, agreed
But he was adequate as a back-up
We are going to miss him coming off the bench.
But hopefully Lee can be something of an energy guy for us; because Turiaf definately was a lively dude. Sure we’ll miss his help D, but I also think we will be missing him coming bouncing off the bench in the middle of the 3rd quarter of a meaningless game, getting a block, thumping his chest, and then screaming at the top of his lungs.
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 25, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
...and then turning it over in the post because he would rather have an assist than a feild goal
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 25, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree, I just don’t think it’s that big of a deal. And I’ve never really bought into the whole “guy has energy on the bench leads to a significant increase in performance from his teammates on the court” kinda thing. Maybe it makes a slight difference, and it’s definitely better than a guy not having energy on the bench, I just don’t see it as a big deal….
by Missing Barry on Aug 25, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
guy has energy on the bench leads to a significant increase in performance from his teammates on the court
I’m a beleiver in this. I remember playing high school, there was this one guy, not so good, but he would come off the bench and proceed to walk around to everyone clapping his hands and yelling (right up in your face) “LETS GO! LETS GO!”
Tended to bring the level of effort up a little…a little. So I agree, not a big deal, but can we at least call it a “factor”
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 25, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Tended to bring the level of effort up a little…a little.
haha, enough to punch him out?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Aug 25, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m ok calling almost anything you can think of a factor – I just don’t tend to worry about the little stuff because it’s little, and I think we’d have a really, really hard time showing it really exists in a meaningful enough way for us to actually use that information positively. Basically – if the effect is small, and the data noisy, even if it’s there, it’s not really usable information.
And I like that you bring up your HS experience – I think back to my own, and my coach was all about garbage like leadership, effort, chemistry, “intangible” things like always clapping and showing enthusiasm on the bench, picking teammates up off the ground, etc. Thing is, we weren’t very good, and a good portion of that was because our coach was really bad at actually coaching us from a basketball perspective (largely because he focused so much on all those little things instead). The rest was because of our lack of size, but whatever. ;)
My takeaway isn’t so much that it’s not a factor as it’s just not a big enough deal to really worry about.
by Missing Barry on Aug 25, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Barry, I have noticed that coaches do tend harp on those little things when the team doesnt have much hope regarding wins :-)
Speaking from experience that is.
by Only In Fairfax on Aug 26, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha, possibly true. It just becomes a problem when diving for a loose ball gives you PT at the expense of someone who’s just an all-around better player than you….
by Missing Barry on Aug 27, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
btw
I looked around a little bit, but really coundn’t find any evidence that having an “energy guy” helps the team as a whole.
I think you guys are right…it is more about a marginally-talented player being able to make a contribution to the team
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 30, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
It would be a really hard thing to find, I think, even if it was there. I just don’t see it being there in a huge way, you know?
by Missing Barry on Aug 30, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
well, by definition
an “energy guy” is not one of your most skilled players
by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 31, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Turiaf wasn’t really that good.
Sure. On the other hand, in the last 2 seasons the Warriors have been a much better team with Turiaf at C than Andris. Based on 82games’ adj. plus-minus per 100 possessions, Turiaf was +3.5 in 08-09 on vs off court & +3.6 in 09-10. Not surprisingly (b/c of the injuries), Andris was -6.4 this past season on vs off court. However, Andris was also -1.1 on vs off in 08-09.
by the evil monkey on Aug 25, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Turiaf is a better defender than Andris. I don’t know why goose can’t be a great defender or at least above average. he’s not agressive. he doesn’t hold position and he doesn’t anticipate anything.
i wonder how much film he watches. How much time he spends lifting weight.
Biedrins biggest problem is definitely he needs to be more physical, and that’s a twofold thing – first, he needs to be stronger and hold his ground better and just physically not get pushed around as much, and second, he needs to do his work earlier – beat the offensive player to post position and stop him early so he has a lot of work to do to get into position.
Turiaf is a very good off ball defender, but I was always underwhelmed with his on ball defense. I’d say he’s a bit better than Andris in both, but still not much more than average overall.
by Missing Barry on Aug 25, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I do recall him shutting down Amar’e in december. I know, one game sample, but when he is put on a specific player, i think his on-ball defense is good. The problem is our guards have been inept at staying in front of their men, so he often leaves his man to swat at a shot.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 25, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
that would be a dream come true.
he does a good job keeping his arms up in the air but i’m not sure if that is just great technic or if he’s trying so hard not get a foul that it is actually hindering his defense. I’ll give hime the benefit of the doubt but he just needs to anticipate a little bit better. this often means film studie and knowing what your matchs go to moves. Is this a coaching thing? do they sit down with him and explain how to defend those moves? Turiaf came from the lakers and may have learned more there..
but, you are spot on about the big man defensive fundementals 101.
Besides Lou I don't see many options
I’d look to acquire a big from a team with a lot of front court depth. Even If we are able to sign Lou, i would o look to acquire another big like Brandon Bass, Chris Wilcox, Jason Maxiell, Jeff Pendegraph, Dante Cunningham, Chuck Hayes, Hamed Haddadi, Leon Powe, Jason Smith, or Reggie Evans. Offer mix of trade exceptions, second round picks, and expiring deals
We have Gadzuric haha
But yeah I think i’ll really miss having Turiaf to back up Andris. He was a great shot blocker and could also pass and get a few dunks here and there. I think now we need a defender/rebounder to back up Andris. I don’t know to much about Gadzuric but anyone who can bring defense and rebounding at C we should be looking at right now.
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Kwame Brown signed with the Bobcats and the W's don't have as much money as Lou's other suitors... All is lost!
Not really, but I’d like to see a trade happen, especially if they can’t get Lou. I believe Gadz and Bell are now eligible to be traded.
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Keep flagging
The posts all get removed eventually, but those guys are relentless. Best thing you can do is flag them, and never click on the link. If it’s not doing anything for their business then maybe they will stop spamming us.
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Earl Barron
That dude from the Knicks last season. He had a few games and showed promise. Nellie is gonna like this guy because as a 7’0’’ 260 center, he likes to run and has a decent mid range game. Defense, fair to decent.
thats what im talkin about..
i want a BIG big.. but, maybe thats just cuz i wanted demarcus cousins during the draft so bad.
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 24, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmm it says hes only 245… and a little soft..
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 24, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah.
that’s the only catch, but the guy showed he’s a solid rebounder and a decent shooter when given playing time. With him and David Lee playing together maybe (Knicks reunion) he can probably thrive as a help defender, as Lee take the bangings and the hits down low, he’ll jup for the block. Looks like the Knicks has not yet shown interest but based on the fans of Knick blogs he’ll be invited to training camp.
if there is a chance, why not.
sorry for the typo.
ESPN list him at 250 and accidentally hit 6.
no worries..
i just hope we get some good pieces or one piece b4 the start of the season..
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 25, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Any interest in C. Wilcox as a back-up C? He should definately be attainable with Detroit drafting Monroe and having B. Wallace already on the roster.
by ChronicMasticator on Aug 24, 2010 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
If we don't get Amundson who is a proven contributor
I think Dwayne Jones would be an excellent addition to the team, he would immediately be better than Gadzuric for the Warriors pace. Here is Dwayne’s draft express profile:
decent stats but seems a tad small… not sure.
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 24, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Best case scenario = Gadzuric
LOL!
by ChronicMasticator on Aug 24, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
true lol
im gonna go check some gadzuric highlights.. never even saw him play b4
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 25, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Gadz had sick athleticism back in the day. Unfortunately, now he’s just another skinny weakling. The same thing is happening to Beans. That’s why big fat/strong guys are so valuable. Shaq doesn’t need to be able to do anything but shove Dwight Howard to be a legitimate NBA player…
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Aug 27, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
the only highlight i could find was 20 seconds long and consisted of 2 dunks haha
by lameallenmark on Aug 30, 2010 2:35 AM PDT up reply actions
lmao
NOT THE BEST START LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0xeoO18lyU&feature=search
Imagine
him doing that on the Warriors. Nellie would curse him out haha
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CRAP WRONG ONE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua8MDNvgJpQ&feature=related
IF HE CAN DO THIS..
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 25, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
ok last one, but, he was runnin the floor nicely..
COULD BE CURRY TO GAD DAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43h9L3EKGoI&NR=1
thanks for the links @PIRATE
I’d never seen him play either.
Not hard to find a couple of good highlights from a player’s entire career…but still, not as bad as I expected
One play, he had a fairly smooth behind-the-back dribble in thick traffic to get him to a pretty nice dunk.
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 25, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
hahah ya i was shocked lol
and u do make a good point.. hell even MY highlight videos would make me look like im worthy..
he says he is ready for a new start and to prove himself.. so i am optimistic that he will not be as dismal as ppl say…
heres one more that reminded me of bein at the oracle…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppeU_Ajej-8&feature=related
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Aug 25, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
is Gad possibly being totally ignored as a team resource by GSOM?...short answer is no
listed at 6’11" 245 lbs.
…meh, never mind; I just did some internet research on the guy and it sounds pretty dismal
Oh well, at least we have his expiring contract, here’s hoping that the team will actually use it in some productive fashion!
Some quotes from the world wide web:
“Dan Gadzuric was the worst of the Bucks’ three centers with 0.94 PPP, offsetting a good opponent fg% (.381) with an extremely high foul rate—over a quarter of post possessions against him ended in a shooting foul”
Here is his season in review:
“Dan Gadzuric played in only 32 games for the Bucks in 2009-2010. This is the lowest amount since he’s been with the team beginning with the 2002-2003 campaign. He played only 313 minutes on the season. A knee strain kept him out for most of December. From December thru March, Gadzuric appeared in only 11 games. I don’t believe Gadzuric would be on the team if not for the high salary. He doesn’t seem to fit in with Scott Skiles system. Athleticism is his best asset. I wasn’t expecting him to develop into a back to the basket scorer. I was hoping he’d be able to grow into a player that plays in control contributing on the defensive end. Gadzuric often plays out of control and picks up ticky-tack fouls. Also he isn’t as good of a screen setter as I’d like from a backup big. For a guy that’s played 8 years in the league, you should be able to set a screen properly. Danny G is what he is at this point of his career.”
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maybe a low risk high reward.
Any of you guys heard of Jordan Eglseder from Norther Iowa.
The 7’0’’ 280 lbs center. He was pretty solid in UNI both on offense and defense and rebounding. Though it’s really tough to see how will he do in the pro’s.
But the dude’s big and tough and shown some tenacity to go after the boards. Something the Warriors don’t have. He also has a soft touch under the basket and a decent free throw shooter. Maybe a camp invite or a rookie minimum.
Or crazy thinking?
shown some tenacity to go after the boards. Something the Warriorsdon’tdidn’t have
We’ve got rebounders now!
by Missing Barry on Aug 25, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Minesota wouldn't do that.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 25, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Gasol jr?
What is the total value of our expiring contracts?
I feel like we have a lot of cap room next year…?
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 25, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
looks like we have about $14 million
coming off the books next year with Gad/Rad
Should be enough to get Gasol (right??)
I would definately take this team to the playoffs
PG: Curry
SG: Monta
SF: D Wright
PF: Lee
C: M. Gasol
plus, we got Mr potato head, Lin, and hopefully B Wright and Beidrens coming off the bench
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 26, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember, $‘s off the books != $’s under the cap, since we’re over the cap to begin with.
by Missing Barry on Aug 26, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
doubt that Memphis is gonna let him go easy.
They’d probably gonna get him more money using his Bird Rights after this year, heck he’ll probably get an extension this year. I want Gasol in Warriors. But it’ll be tough to get him.
$44,062,936 guaranteed — but that’s not counting the $4.5M qualifying offer to Wright or the $3.1M team option on Curry (which I’m guessing we’ll pick up — just a hunch). Weirdly, it is counting the $1.3 player option for Jannero Pargo. In any case, with the cap set around $58M we should have a little more scratch to play with than we have in recent years, but just a little. If we wanted enough to sign Gasol outright, we’d likely have to think about dealing Monta and/or AB for expiring contracts…
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by Sleepy Freud on Aug 26, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus a couple more mil for our draft pick, right?
by Missing Barry on Aug 26, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus a couple more mil for our draft pick, right?
THe 2011 draft is looking like a strong one. Just the players from UK and Memphis plus Barnes and a few others looks better than the 2010 draft. The 6th pick in 2011 will better than 2010 by far..Warriors luck again…dont we loose our pick unless its lottery?
by Only In Fairfax on Aug 26, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
yup
next year our first round pick is gone…unless we are in the lotto
DAMN that Marvin Williams trade
stupid, stoopid move
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 30, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Dan Gadzuric
is a beast in 2K10 haha
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Suns didn't cut him
the traded him to Toronoto along with Barbosa for Turkoglu.
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TURRIBLE!
That's correct!
Thanks Jaxis. I figured this out after writing my initial post, but wasn’t sure the clarification made much difference to the post.
Dwayne Jones actually played a few playoff minutes for the Suns and though the sample size (without knowing the context) makes it virtually meaningless, he did manage to grab 5 rebounds and draw 4 free throws (making 3) in his 9 playoff minutes against the Hawks. Not bad!
As you noted, he was then traded to Toronto who cut him a couple of weeks ago to get their roster back to 15.
At least the clarification certainly wouldn’t indicate either team’s dislike of him but rather that he was largely roster filler in the first place who didn’t manage (or have opportunity) to prove himself worth keeping at the expense of cutting some other player the teams were already paying.
I just want to see what style of game he plays to inhale boards at such a rate. Even in the NBDL, 25+ rebound games don’t happen by accident and he had 2 of these last year (actually 10 20+ rebound games overall.) He also draws a lot of fouls (19 games last year with 10+ fta) which hopefully speaks to a good energy, physical style.
At the very least, unless I hear reason otherwise, it’d be fun to see him get a training camp invite and some pre-season minutes.
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He backed up Jarron Collins vs Portland
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TURRIBLE!
Brian Zoubek from NJ.
If there is some way the Warriors can trade for him when he becomes available for trade. 7’1’’ 260 (according to ESPN.com), long, tough, blue collar kind of guy who does not shy on contact, decent defender under the rim and has the ability to run. He’s solid in free throws too so he should have a decent 10-15 foot jump shot provided he takes the shot (as most of the times he don’t). Warriors can package anyone too since NJ is way under cap. Maybe Gadzuric for Zoubek? Doesn’t look like NJ is gonna bite on that, but if Warriors can somehow acquire him. He’ll be a good back up for Biedrins.
Jesus! There's an elephant in the room!
I don’t understand why the warriors’ lack of depth at 5 hasn’t been one of the dominant themes for the media and fans since, well, since “Damp/Foyle” was touted as the answer to the problem a thousand years ago!
While I remain a huge fan of Nellie, and was willing to watch Maggs play the 4, etc., as an offensive strategy, I’m still sick of having no legitimate size with defensive post ability on this team. This is the key reason I am not terribly excited about this coming season and the Lee acquisition. I will refrain from arguing for shot-blocking, since the stat-heads seem to loathe it as a valuable skill, and prefer guys that rebound at a high clip while averaging 0.4 BPG, but come on! Something’s gotta give!
Don’t get me wrong: I love what Beans brings to the table when healthy, but he is by no means a defensive presence, and that combined with Lee’s total ineffectiveness in this regard is just nauseating to me. I am dreading watching them get eaten alive by floppy wimps like Pau Gasol, and probably the guy the Nelson’s record and the lottery stole from us: Demarcus Cousins.
Then there’s Udoh: He has all the makings of a legitimate post defender, which is great, but mid-season, when he’s hopefully healthy, he’s still going to be 6’10. That just doesn’t cut it anymore. For a few years, under an owner like Cohan, I can deal with it, but now I want a g*ddam 7-footer! I saw Olajuwon on Pros vs. Joes recently. He was the only reason the Pros won! Frankly, I’d rather watch him walk up and down the court, being nowhere near the play 2/3 of the time, just to see a d*mn opponent at least hesitate to dunk all over my whole team!
Are you reading this low-level Lacob staffer? I’m already pissed the old regime made it harder for me to park behind that (former) Denny’s by closing the walk-in gate! I’m not paying $20 to park, $10+ for an alcoholic beverage, another $10 for my girlfriend’s pathetic, three-chip nachos, and $200+ for good seats to watch an $80million player with the muscle definition of Will Ferrel and a $60million, cigarette-smoking goose get beat up by Zach “three blunts, a 40oz., and a bucket of chicken pre-game” Randolph!
Get on it!
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Aug 27, 2010 7:46 PM PDT reply actions
theres a bunch of 6'11'' - 7'0'' still available in the FA
they should invite some to training camp and not Jeff Adrien (no disrespect).
That’s all well and good but I’m tired of counting on the Warriors to make something out of nothing with fringe players. Hunter was not good, and that was our best option last year. Who’s out there?
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Aug 29, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Earl Barron 7’0’’ 250. He had 7 games in NY and showed he can produce quality minutes 11ppg and 11rpg in 30 minutes of play. Though he’s asking for more money than the minimum which is why the Knicks did not resign him. Warriors might have a hard time convincing him for the minimum.
There are a few left, i’ll try to list it from safe to “not so safe” picks.
Francisco Elson 7’0’’ 240
Primo Brezec 7’1’’ 255
Rasho Nesterovic 7’0’’ 255
these could be available for vet. minimum so it’s a low risk high reward. Though all are in their 30’s.
Yeah I’m familiar with those guys. Nesterovic is the only one that’s ever been worth a lick, but he’s obviously long in the tooth. I would honestly rather take a chance on a D-league prospect or maybe Barron. Otherwise, why not just put Gadzuric out there. It’s all pretty dismal.
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Aug 29, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
but if they all come in for the vet. minimum why not. It puts Gadzuric and a FA big in a healthy competition to see who gets back up minutes, in turn makes them work hard and probably squeeze a few good stuff out of them. And we could always use insurance bigs in case (BIG KNOCK ON WOOD) Andris goes down again, before they get signed by someone and we’re left with pretty much more mediocre players than them
i mean for the vet. minimum, this is a low risk high reward.
Barron has a career 42% TS% i believe.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 29, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Biedrins is a solid enough off ball defender. And Wright can also help protect the rim (same with Udoh when he’s healthy). But yes, we still have problems defending legitimate post players.
by Missing Barry on Aug 29, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m also not all that concerned about a guys height.
by Missing Barry on Aug 29, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Zach "three blunts, a 40oz., and a bucket of chicken pre-game" Randolph!
haha, I think he makes the “all skeptic” team.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Aug 27, 2010 8:39 PM PDT reply actions
Alexander Johnson:
25.5 points/36
66% TS%
12.3 rebounds/36
1.5 blocks/36
Sign this guy up!
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by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 28, 2010 2:59 PM PDT reply actions
1.5 BPG/36? If you’re saying thisguy is good I would maybe just omit that figure and hope no one asks…
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Aug 29, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you drinking again Bimbo?
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by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 29, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, so you think 1.5blocks/36minutes is particularly good? Bear in mind: these are d-league numbers. If that came against NBA talent I would be the first say that is impressive, but against poor opponents he should be somewhere in the 2s/36 if he were a particularly good blocker. I’m not saying it’s particularly bad, but nowhere near as good as the other stats you chose.
In other words, shot-blocking is not one of his strengths.
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Aug 30, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but he isn’t bad.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Aug 30, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions

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